Guest guest Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I am assuming when you say he buckles at the carpus you mean he is hypoflexed and standing virtually upright. Digging and swimming are going to build primarily the flexors. Does this dog have normal digits? By that I mean is there any limitations in the digits themselves or does it appear to be limited to the carpus? , VMD, CCRP Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group https://www.VOSM.com ________________________________________ From: VetRehab [VetRehab ] On Behalf Of k9maya213 [k9maya213@...] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:40 PM To: VetRehab Subject: Adult dog did not outgrow carpal flexural abnormality Hi all! Last week a colleague of mine showed me a 1 year old pit bull that had carpal flexural abnormality as a pup, but has not outgrown it. When he stands, his front legs buckle at the carpi. He can't run and play for long. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help him? All of the previous posts I've seen are about puppies and say that they will out grow this. I thought carpal support wraps might help, especially for when he wants to go out to play. Also, what are some good exercises for strengthening this area? So far I thought of digging in sand and swimming. Any input is greatly appreciated. June Hacker-Traiger, VMD,CCRP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Actually when he stands, his front legs shake a bit and then he buckles at the carpus and is hyper flexed at the carpus but doesn't fall down. His digits are normal and all of the rest of his joints are normal. Thanks for your quick reply! June > > I am assuming when you say he buckles at the carpus you mean he is hypoflexed and standing virtually upright. Digging and swimming are going to build primarily the flexors. Does this dog have normal digits? By that I mean is there any limitations in the digits themselves or does it appear to be limited to the carpus? > > > , VMD, CCRP > Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group > https://www.VOSM.com > ________________________________________ > From: VetRehab [VetRehab ] On Behalf Of k9maya213 [k9maya213@...] > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:40 PM > To: VetRehab > Subject: Adult dog did not outgrow carpal flexural abnormality > > Hi all! Last week a colleague of mine showed me a 1 year old pit bull that had carpal flexural abnormality as a pup, but has not outgrown it. When he stands, his front legs buckle at the carpi. He can't run and play for long. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help him? All of the previous posts I've seen are about puppies and say that they will out grow this. > I thought carpal support wraps might help, especially for when he wants to go out to play. > Also, what are some good exercises for strengthening this area? So far I thought of digging in sand and swimming. Any input is greatly appreciated. > June Hacker-Traiger, VMD,CCRP > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 In that case carpal wraps would be great or depending on the severity hyper extension orthotics would be an option as well. Those exercises for strengthening would be great. Carpal arthrodesis would also be a last option although one that would be preferable to avoid. , VMD, CCRP Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group https://www.VOSM.com ________________________________________ From: VetRehab [VetRehab ] On Behalf Of k9maya213 [k9maya213@...] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:36 PM To: VetRehab Subject: Re: Adult dog did not outgrow carpal flexural abnormality Actually when he stands, his front legs shake a bit and then he buckles at the carpus and is hyper flexed at the carpus but doesn't fall down. His digits are normal and all of the rest of his joints are normal. Thanks for your quick reply! June > > I am assuming when you say he buckles at the carpus you mean he is hypoflexed and standing virtually upright. Digging and swimming are going to build primarily the flexors. Does this dog have normal digits? By that I mean is there any limitations in the digits themselves or does it appear to be limited to the carpus? > > > , VMD, CCRP > Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group > https://www.VOSM.com > ________________________________________ > From: VetRehab <mailto:VetRehab%40yahoogroups.com> [VetRehab <mailto:VetRehab%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of k9maya213 [k9maya213@...] > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:40 PM > To: VetRehab <mailto:VetRehab%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Adult dog did not outgrow carpal flexural abnormality > > Hi all! Last week a colleague of mine showed me a 1 year old pit bull that had carpal flexural abnormality as a pup, but has not outgrown it. When he stands, his front legs buckle at the carpi. He can't run and play for long. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help him? All of the previous posts I've seen are about puppies and say that they will out grow this. > I thought carpal support wraps might help, especially for when he wants to go out to play. > Also, what are some good exercises for strengthening this area? So far I thought of digging in sand and swimming. Any input is greatly appreciated. > June Hacker-Traiger, VMD,CCRP > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 June, Most of the time this is a problem due to bone length growth in excess of soft tissue, flexor muscles and tendons. It does usually self correct, with proper dietary adjustments, decrease in protein and calories. This dog is somewhat older than normal however if physeal regions are still open then not too old. Passive and active stretching exercise combined with devices that counter flexion when non-weight bearing can help. Most of the time these are treated with professional neglect but a device made of orthoplast that can be remolded to increase extension as needed maybe of assistance. Do you have radiographs? Rick Wall, DVM The Woodlands, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 What is the standing angle at the carpus? When the carpus is in full extension, are the digits also extended? Is there pain on extension of the carpus and/or digits anywhere (including over the tendons just distal to the accessory carpal bone/retinaculum?Can you post pictures?TeriSubject: Adult dog did not outgrow carpal flexural abnormalityTo: VetRehab Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 6:40 PM Hi all! Last week a colleague of mine showed me a 1 year old pit bull that had carpal flexural abnormality as a pup, but has not outgrown it. When he stands, his front legs buckle at the carpi. He can't run and play for long. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help him? All of the previous posts I've seen are about puppies and say that they will out grow this. I thought carpal support wraps might help, especially for when he wants to go out to play. Also, what are some good exercises for strengthening this area? So far I thought of digging in sand and swimming. Any input is greatly appreciated. June Hacker-Traiger, VMD,CCRP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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