Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 You go Grace! WOO!!! I hope you're not trembling anymore. And I hope the bleeding plumber got there. That's one long line he's been in for 2 months... -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 > > Well, I have my customers I answer to, God and myself...gotta sleep at night You pay attention to your customers? Geez, Ron. You gotta take a class or something from Grace's contractor. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 > Now, I am not an unreasonable person. In fact, I am one of the most > reasonable people I know. Granted, I am not the most patient person in the > world, but I have had it as of today. I am way past my threshold, and > nothing is 'good' past this point with me. My temper, unfortunately, is no > longer under my control. > I'm still trembling. > This sounds like me. I don't swear, but only have so much patience. Then I shake the rest of the day. You did the right and (believe it or not) sensible thing. Obviously this guy needed threats. I guess by now you know what you have to do. I really appreciate your accounts of this mess, Grace. It helps all of us avoid pitfalls and know what to ask if we ever get into this situation. I'm just so sorry that you are having to learn it by example. That sucks. Barb (43)SAHM and wife to Jim (43) soon to be working again. Aislynn (eyes-lin) 13 Autistic Kelsey 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 6 weeks later, today, we are STILL waiting for this f%^*% & #$ plumber, > who is standing in line at the courthouse, Why is he standing in line at the courthouse? Is someone else suing him? LOL I wouldn't be surprised. You are ticked of to the nth degree of tickedoffticity, he deserved even more than what you gave him. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 > So did it work? It sounds to me like he NEEDED to be kicked in the ass. Good > for you. Tracey, Well, sort of. Not really, but kinda. Within 30 minutes, the electrician was here and working. About an hour after that - the plumber did show up. He was drilling and making a lot of noise. They all left at 6 PM. I ran over there, and saw only one faucet had been installed. The one in the veggie sink... nothing in the main sink. OK, I am alright with that, and I turn it on. Nothing. I look under the cabinet - - nothing. Oh, so he had just put the faucet in. " I could have done this, " I think to myself. I turn on the stove, and HOLY TOLEDO, I have HEAT. YES YES YES!!!!! I click the vent, GOOD LORD, I have air! WOO HOO, I am back to civilization. A great moment like this calls for coffee. Well, I still have no water from the faucets, so I had to run to the bathroom to get water. I turn on the faucet - - - - NO WATER. Man makes fire. Man has no water to boil though. The plumber had turned all the water to the house off. I called the contractor, who of course, did not answer, and left a message saying, in these exact words, " I have no water. I have no water in this house. Somebody forgot to turn on the water, and somebody better get back here NOW AND GIVE ME BACK MY WATER! " Click. He called me back in 2 minutes and told me how to turn it back on. So *I* had to go through the wretched and wet bushes to reach for the damn valve that turns the water on to the house. HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING RIGHT, can he???????????? Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 > So did it work? It sounds to me like he NEEDED to be kicked in the ass. Good > for you. Tracey, Well, sort of. Not really, but kinda. Within 30 minutes, the electrician was here and working. About an hour after that - the plumber did show up. He was drilling and making a lot of noise. They all left at 6 PM. I ran over there, and saw only one faucet had been installed. The one in the veggie sink... nothing in the main sink. OK, I am alright with that, and I turn it on. Nothing. I look under the cabinet - - nothing. Oh, so he had just put the faucet in. " I could have done this, " I think to myself. I turn on the stove, and HOLY TOLEDO, I have HEAT. YES YES YES!!!!! I click the vent, GOOD LORD, I have air! WOO HOO, I am back to civilization. A great moment like this calls for coffee. Well, I still have no water from the faucets, so I had to run to the bathroom to get water. I turn on the faucet - - - - NO WATER. Man makes fire. Man has no water to boil though. The plumber had turned all the water to the house off. I called the contractor, who of course, did not answer, and left a message saying, in these exact words, " I have no water. I have no water in this house. Somebody forgot to turn on the water, and somebody better get back here NOW AND GIVE ME BACK MY WATER! " Click. He called me back in 2 minutes and told me how to turn it back on. So *I* had to go through the wretched and wet bushes to reach for the damn valve that turns the water on to the house. HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING RIGHT, can he???????????? Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 > Now I'm wondering if this was on purpose. Just to irritate you a little more? > Of course that wouldn't be very smart, now would it? But YAY for heat & > cooking in a kitchen! Tracey, that crossed my mind. And if he had not called back, I would have been outside right now, digging his burial plot for him, since he would need it tomorrow. Thankfully, he called me back quickly, so I'm inclined to think that he didn't do it on purpose. Besides, I think it would be the plumber's responsibility to turn it back on since he did shut it off. So they aren't evil. They are just completely incapable. Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 > Now I'm wondering if this was on purpose. Just to irritate you a little more? > Of course that wouldn't be very smart, now would it? But YAY for heat & > cooking in a kitchen! Tracey, that crossed my mind. And if he had not called back, I would have been outside right now, digging his burial plot for him, since he would need it tomorrow. Thankfully, he called me back quickly, so I'm inclined to think that he didn't do it on purpose. Besides, I think it would be the plumber's responsibility to turn it back on since he did shut it off. So they aren't evil. They are just completely incapable. Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Grace, The reason I brought the " money " point up is because this contractor is required by law to carry a certain amount of liability insurance and perhaps workman's compensation as well. If he is struggling to pay his subcontractors, he is probably also behind on his insurance, or worse yet, working without it, which is bad for you if something goes wrong (like your house floods or catches fire due to faulty wiring, etc.). Today, why don't you demand that he provide you with a copy of his CURRENT insurance certificate. Don't let him bullshit around it. He can call his insurance agent and have one prepared immediately and faxed to you . . . or he can provide you with his insurance agent's name and phone number for you to verify yourself. If it turns out he is working without insurance, I would use that tidbit as major leverage for him to complete his work within the next few days or you will contact the state board. He could be fined majorly and perhaps face criminal proceedings. -BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Grace, The reason I brought the " money " point up is because this contractor is required by law to carry a certain amount of liability insurance and perhaps workman's compensation as well. If he is struggling to pay his subcontractors, he is probably also behind on his insurance, or worse yet, working without it, which is bad for you if something goes wrong (like your house floods or catches fire due to faulty wiring, etc.). Today, why don't you demand that he provide you with a copy of his CURRENT insurance certificate. Don't let him bullshit around it. He can call his insurance agent and have one prepared immediately and faxed to you . . . or he can provide you with his insurance agent's name and phone number for you to verify yourself. If it turns out he is working without insurance, I would use that tidbit as major leverage for him to complete his work within the next few days or you will contact the state board. He could be fined majorly and perhaps face criminal proceedings. -BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Grace, The reason I brought the " money " point up is because this contractor is required by law to carry a certain amount of liability insurance and perhaps workman's compensation as well. If he is struggling to pay his subcontractors, he is probably also behind on his insurance, or worse yet, working without it, which is bad for you if something goes wrong (like your house floods or catches fire due to faulty wiring, etc.). Today, why don't you demand that he provide you with a copy of his CURRENT insurance certificate. Don't let him bullshit around it. He can call his insurance agent and have one prepared immediately and faxed to you . . . or he can provide you with his insurance agent's name and phone number for you to verify yourself. If it turns out he is working without insurance, I would use that tidbit as major leverage for him to complete his work within the next few days or you will contact the state board. He could be fined majorly and perhaps face criminal proceedings. -BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 > If it turns out he is working without insurance, I would use that tidbit as > major leverage for him to complete his work within the next few days or you > will contact the state board. He could be fined majorly and perhaps face > criminal proceedings. BJ: Remind me not to mess with YOU any time soon. One tough babe. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 I wish I could have been there to see it in person! ===== Ginger, wife to Jeff 14 ADD 9 Autistic 7 NT __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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