Re: Learning more so I can help

August 30, 2011

I cannot answer your questions, but ever since I was about 12 I have just "felt" that hypnosis would help but have never tried it (I'm now 44). Please tell me where you are located as I would be very interested in seeing you as well.Good luck!Heidi

I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), the tapping method.

I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you could give me that might help my client.

August 30, 2011

I deffinitly have hear great things about Hypnosis. I would love to try this. My mom is currently looking for a therapist or some sort of person to take me to, to help me out. Any suggestions? Im in the Oregon areaTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:47 PMSubject: Re: Learning

more so I can help

I cannot answer your questions, but ever since I was about 12 I have just "felt" that hypnosis would help but have never tried it (I'm now 44). Please tell me where you are located as I would be very interested in seeing you as well.Good luck!Heidi

I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), the tapping method.

I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you could give me that might help my client.

August 30, 2011

Same here. I've thought a lot about hypnosis as a help for me, but until I joined this group a coupla months ago, I didn't think what I was feeling (about bothersome sounds) was legitimate. Now I'm reconsidering contacting a hypnotist. Best wishes.

I cannot answer your questions, but ever since I was about 12 I have just "felt" that hypnosis would help but have never tried it (I'm now 44). Please tell me where you are located as I would be very interested in seeing you as well.Good luck!Heidi

I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), the tapping method.

I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you could give me that might help my client.

August 31, 2011

I've tried hypnotism, meditation, EFT, etc., and I've found minimal intermittent

relief -- but nothing that lasts. When the trigger " hits " me, I feel trapped and

start looking for an escape. If I cannot find an escape (ear plugs or leaving),

I start feeling in attack mode out of self-defense. When the trigger stops, and

it looks like the offending party has left, I return to a normal state of calm

rather quickly.

I believe there is " something " in those sounds that triggers a physiological

response in my body/mind. Under differing circumstances and levels of calm or

arousal, I have varying levels of self-control to handle the physiological

response for short periods of time. But if the trigger continues - no matter how

peaceful I may have been, my agitation grows until I MUST take action...ask the

person to stop, put in earplugs, or leave -- no other options.

I'd like to believe that hypnotherapy could work, but it would have to be a very

creative approach. Is there a way to trick the brain into believing it is

hearing a pleasant sound when in fact it is/was a trigger sound?

One thing hypnotherapy might benefit is the anticipatory response that happens

when waiting for the next trigger sound... Like a dripping faucet...once it

starts, you keep waiting for the next drop to hit, each drip increasing the

stress response to the one that follows...until there's nothing left but an

explosion waiting to happen.

>

> I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a

hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for

soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that

this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and

contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to

help this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

>

> My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some

techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm

considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the

sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT),

the tapping method.

>

> I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any kind

of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what type

of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and relaxation

help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you could give me

that might help my client.

>

August 31, 2011

Interestingly enough one of my best friends is a Yoga Therapist (and teacher to yoga teachers) and has 4S as well. If she is being triggered even in her most relaxed, enlightened moments, she still gets ridiculously angry. She told me a story a few nights ago where she was at a group meditation with some famous yogi from india and they were all in this wonderful mind space and one of the yogi's assistance got on the microphone and using that "yoga" voice began to chant something which made the salvia in here mouth and her S's quite audible. My enlightened yoga therapist friend became enraged. I couldn't help but laugh when she told the story and asked her if she beat the Yogi's assistant with her microphone. (Obviously kidding, the irony and all.) She said she just laid back and breathed into the anger. But she still hated it and she still suffered. Sigh.Heidi

I've tried hypnotism, meditation, EFT, etc., and I've found minimal intermittent relief -- but nothing that lasts. When the trigger "hits" me, I feel trapped and start looking for an escape. If I cannot find an escape (ear plugs or leaving), I start feeling in attack mode out of self-defense. When the trigger stops, and it looks like the offending party has left, I return to a normal state of calm rather quickly.

I believe there is "something" in those sounds that triggers a physiological response in my body/mind. Under differing circumstances and levels of calm or arousal, I have varying levels of self-control to handle the physiological response for short periods of time. But if the trigger continues - no matter how peaceful I may have been, my agitation grows until I MUST take action...ask the person to stop, put in earplugs, or leave -- no other options.

I'd like to believe that hypnotherapy could work, but it would have to be a very creative approach. Is there a way to trick the brain into believing it is hearing a pleasant sound when in fact it is/was a trigger sound?

One thing hypnotherapy might benefit is the anticipatory response that happens when waiting for the next trigger sound... Like a dripping faucet...once it starts, you keep waiting for the next drop to hit, each drip increasing the stress response to the one that follows...until there's nothing left but an explosion waiting to happen.

>

> I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

>

> My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), the tapping method.

>

> I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you could give me that might help my client.

>

August 31, 2011

Boy,now I really feel hopeless! I've tried everything and so far had no success of any significance. How can one be in a state of bliss and still be angry? This is such a tough problem.

The only thing that ever gave me relief was alcohol, and I joined the Mormon Church and can't drink. Just as well.

I guess I will have to just keep praying for an answer.

I will never give up hope though.

Mike

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Learning more so I can help

Interestingly enough one of my best friends is a Yoga Therapist (and teacher to yoga teachers) and has 4S as well. If she is being triggered even in her most relaxed, enlightened moments, she still gets ridiculously angry. She told me a story a few nights ago where she was at a group meditation with some famous yogi from india and they were all in this wonderful mind space and one of the yogi's assistance got on the microphone and using that "yoga" voice began to chant something which made the salvia in here mouth and her S's quite audible. My enlightened yoga therapist friend became enraged. I couldn't help but laugh when she told the story and asked her if she beat the Yogi's assistant with her microphone. (Obviously kidding, the irony and all.) She said she just laid back and breathed into the anger. But she still hated it and she still suffered. Sigh.

Heidi

I've tried hypnotism, meditation, EFT, etc., and I've found minimal intermittent relief -- but nothing that lasts. When the trigger "hits" me, I feel trapped and start looking for an escape. If I cannot find an escape (ear plugs or leaving), I start feeling in attack mode out of self-defense. When the trigger stops, and it looks like the offending party has left, I return to a normal state of calm rather quickly.I believe there is "something" in those sounds that triggers a physiological response in my body/mind. Under differing circumstances and levels of calm or arousal, I have varying levels of self-control to handle the physiological response for short periods of time. But if the trigger continues - no matter how peaceful I may have been, my agitation grows until I MUST take action...ask the person to stop, put in earplugs, or leave -- no other options.I'd like to believe that hypnotherapy could work, but it would have to

be a very creative approach. Is there a way to trick the brain into believing it is hearing a pleasant sound when in fact it is/was a trigger sound?One thing hypnotherapy might benefit is the anticipatory response that happens when waiting for the next trigger sound... Like a dripping faucet...once it starts, you keep waiting for the next drop to hit, each drip increasing the stress response to the one that follows...until there's nothing left but an explosion waiting to happen.>> I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that

this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.> > My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), the tapping method.> > I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you could give me that might help my

client.>

August 31, 2011

I have had NLP with TFT and EFT and hypnosis and EEG and LENS biofeedback. I've

had 20 years of psychotherapy and drugs (and alcohol) and anorexia and

acupuncture. Hell, I even tried religion! Yes, I have achieved relaxed states

more deeply than before but they are gone in an instant as soon as I get

triggered. Now on to your specific question: I worked in my EEG biofeedback

therapists' office 2X/wk on the phone with for about 9 months. The set up

for EFT " even though I am triggered I deeply . . . " and then after some time of

nothing working, we went to a neuronal level and changed the way a trigger sound

enters my brain. Instead of stopping and checking in at the limbic system for

any emotional response, it went directly from the ear to my frontal lobes for me

to make the decision if there was danger or not. There has never been a lasting

effect: it does work in that if I tap while triggered it will soften the

emotional response and will reduce my rage to sorrow (flip side). I am not

willing to tap and cry in public. (The EFT statements are very much the same

suggestions used in hypnosis many years prior to that emphasizing safety,

security and calm.)

Let me explain that I am not as cynical as I seem. I believed this would work

as I strongly believe in the power of intention and self-fulfilling prophecies.

Maybe that's why I get so devastated when something DOESN'T work because I

honestly feel I've found the answer (I have to do it this way).

It ends up not working because as I now understand it is not an emotional issue

nor is it an issue of belief or mind-set. If a client came to you with

Parkinsons or Epilepsy or Alzheimers' or ALS, you'd work with them to help

manage the way they live with symptoms but not to eradicate the condition.

Because you can't talk this away.

> > >

> > > I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a

hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for

soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that

this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and

contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help

this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

> > >

> > > My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some

techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm

considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the

sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT),

the tapping method.

> > >

> > > I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any

kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what

type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and

relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you

could give me that might help my client.

> > >

> >

>

August 31, 2011

“Is there a way to trick the brain into believing it

is hearing a pleasant sound when in fact it is/was a trigger sound?”

This was an idea that I explored with the client on the

phone. She wanted to try it, and that will be the focus of at least one

session.

“One thing hypnotherapy might benefit is the

anticipatory response that happens when waiting for the next trigger sound...”

Techniques generally used to reduce fear responses could be

helpful for that. Where I studied, it was called “Circle Therapy.”

In hypnosis (the relaxed state), the client is asked to think of the fearful

thing to arouse the response and then suggesting that the client pass it and

return to the relaxed state. This is repeated a few times until the

client finds that he can no longer bring up the fearful response. I

usually make CDs for my client, but I believe this technique is best done under

supervision.

Roxann Higuera

Mind Horizon Hypnotherapy

August 31, 2011

Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They were

desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found out that I am not

able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or you aren't.

For now I will stick with drinking in bad situations until it becomes a problem

onto itself.

August 31, 2011

> I am not willing to tap and cry in public.

Have you tried mental tapping? I understand this has been effective for some

using EFT techniques.

> It ends up not working because as I now understand it is not an

> emotional issue nor is it an issue of belief or mind-set.

I also suspect that there's a physical component to the issue, perhaps involving

an exceptionally keen sense of hearing to begin with. After reading the

description of the problem of one misophonia sufferer, I thought of dog ears.

Dogs are believed to have hearing much more sensitive than ours. Indeed, my dog

will come running from the next room if she hears something fall on the floor.

I am thinking that perhaps a technique I will try is a variation on what is done

for those suffering from pain. In this, we imagine dials in the control room of

the brain that control the intensity of the sensation as well as possibly in

this case the emotional reactions.

I figure the more ways I can give my client to cope, the more chance of success

we might have.

August 31, 2011

>

> Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They

> were desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found

> out that I am not able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or

> you aren't.

I would not give up on the idea after just one experience. It is possible that

you experienced light stage of hypnosis without realizing it. Depending on how

young you were, it is possible that you were not intellectually ready for

hypnotic methods. There is a certain ability to set aside critical thinking

required. Also, there are varying styles of obtaining hypnosis. If one method

did not work, another might. If NLP methods are used, hypnotic depth is not

necessarily required. I have seen NLP techniques work in the fully conscious

state.

August 31, 2011

I notice that the context of the offending sound/sight is what triggers my rage.

For example, loud motorcycles and cars enrage me yet thunder and freight trains

do not although they sound very similar. Sometimes I mistake a thunder storm or

a train for a sound system or motorcycle. I am enraged until I find out the

source/context of the sound. If the source turns out to be lightning or a

freight train, I am immediately relieved of my rage and stress and the sound no

longer bothers me.

I believe that the source/context of the offending sight/sound holds the key to

finding a treatment or cure.

> >

> > Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They

> > were desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found

> > out that I am not able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or

> > you aren't.

>

> I would not give up on the idea after just one experience. It is possible

that you experienced light stage of hypnosis without realizing it. Depending on

how young you were, it is possible that you were not intellectually ready for

hypnotic methods. There is a certain ability to set aside critical thinking

required. Also, there are varying styles of obtaining hypnosis. If one method

did not work, another might. If NLP methods are used, hypnotic depth is not

necessarily required. I have seen NLP techniques work in the fully conscious

state.

>

August 31, 2011

> I believe that the source/context of the offending sight/sound

> holds the key to finding a treatment or cure.

That's a very helpful clue, and I'm hoping that my client also has similar

variations in reaction because it would mean that the NLP methods I am

considering could indeed be helpful.

I saw in one post somewhere of someone who considered the chewing sounds of a

dog to be adorable while those of a human intolerable. She could not always

tell initially which it was. If at first she thought it was a human chewing,

complete with the intolerance, and then saw that it was a dog, her reaction

entirely changed and the rage subsided. This is another case in which I am

inclined to think that NLP techniques of sensory shift might be helpful.

I am not ruling out some error in perception, though, at least in some cases. I

am convinced that not all aspects of perception can be measured. Let me give

you an example of how that may be. I once knew someone who could not stand the

taste of mint. I could not understand his dislike for it until one day the way

mint tasted totally changed for me. I did not notice any change in the

perception of other flavors, so I did not suspect a general failure in taste

perception. Where mint had once been a light, piquant, and refreshing flavor,

it had suddenly changed into another entirely different vile flavor. Toothpaste

was something of a problem since most of them are mint. Fortunately, the

perception of the flavor eventually changed back again after I had avoided mint

for a time. The point here is, though, that a perception can be one thing for

someone and an entirely different thing for someone else. No typical objective

test could identify a different physiology in such a case.

The success of my approaches is going to depend, I'm sure, on how much the

misophonia is due to some faulty wiring of the perception and how much of it is

an emotional reaction to an otherwise normally perceived sound. I will have to

take both situations into consideration in coming up with a treatment plan.

August 31, 2011

I have several more examples of how the source/context of the trigger determines if the sight/sound torments me or is benign. 1) 30 years ago I was in a residential therapeutic community for recovering drug addicts in upstate NY called Daytop Villiage. At Daytop Village I developed a new trigger that drove me nuts during the numerous group meeting that we had every day. I couldn't stand when men would bite their nails or put their finger near their mouths. When women did it, it didn't bother me. My reaction became so painful that I eventually left the program. But before I left, I told a group about my problem. They immediately accused me of trying to control the group and being manipulative. Then, the group spontaneously all started putting their fingers in their mouths and biting their nails to try and get a rise out of me. Oddly enough, I felt no disgust or rage when they purposely tried to get a reaction by triggering me. However, in subsequent groups when they just triggered me out of habit, my disgust and rage was a t full intensity.2) When I drove a Taxi cab, my biggest trigger was gum chewing and nail biting and putting fingers near the mouth. However I was astounded that I did not bother me when a police officer chewed gum.3) My brother cant stand when strangers talk on cell phones in public. However if he knows the person, it does not bother him.> > >> > > Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They> > > were desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found> > > out that I am not able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or> > > you aren't.> > > > I would not give up on the idea after just one experience. It is possible that you experienced light stage of hypnosis without realizing it. Depending on how young you were, it is possible that you were not intellectually ready for hypnotic methods. There is a certain ability to set aside critical thinking required. Also, there are varying styles of obtaining hypnosis. If one method did not work, another might. If NLP methods are used, hypnotic depth is not necessarily required. I have seen NLP techniques work in the fully conscious state.> >>

August 31, 2011

There is a lot of context around my triggers also. Not only that, some of the things that used to trigger me no longer do, and of course some things that didn't used to trigger me now do. It is really odd, and that makes me think there is an environmental/psychological component to it as well as a physiological one.To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, August 31,

2011 3:28 PMSubject: Re: Learning more so I can help

I have several more examples of how the source/context of the trigger determines if the sight/sound torments me or is benign. 1) 30 years ago I was in a residential therapeutic community for recovering drug addicts in upstate NY called Daytop Villiage. At Daytop Village I developed a new trigger that drove me nuts during the numerous group meeting that we had every day. I couldn't stand when men would bite their nails or put their finger near their mouths. When women did it, it didn't bother me. My reaction became so painful that I eventually left the program. But before I left, I told a group about my problem. They immediately accused me of trying to control the group and being manipulative. Then, the group spontaneously all started putting their fingers in their mouths and biting their nails to try and get a rise out of me. Oddly enough, I felt no disgust or rage when they purposely tried to

get a reaction by triggering me. However, in subsequent groups when they just triggered me out of habit, my disgust and rage was a t full intensity.2) When I drove a Taxi cab, my biggest trigger was gum chewing and nail biting and putting fingers near the mouth. However I was astounded that I did not bother me when a police officer chewed gum.3) My brother cant stand when strangers talk on cell phones in public. However if he knows the person, it does not bother him.> > >> > > Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They> > > were desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found> > > out that I am not able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or> > > you aren't.> > > > I would not give up on the idea after just one experience. It is possible that you experienced light stage of hypnosis without realizing it. Depending on how young you were, it is possible that you were not intellectually ready for hypnotic methods. There is a certain ability to set aside critical thinking required. Also, there are varying styles of obtaining

hypnosis. If one method did not work, another might. If NLP methods are used, hypnotic depth is not necessarily required. I have seen NLP techniques work in the fully conscious state.> >>

August 31, 2011

Ha Ha. This sounds so much like me. If the noise is caused by a human...that in my mind is being rude, ignorant, or should "know better" it bothers me. Sorry, but I too have caught myself searching outside for the source of the sounds...to see if it is being initiated/caused by a neighbor.....and immediately relieved if it is not. Glad to see I'm not alone.To:

Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: Learning more so I can help

I agree with finding the source of the sound as being a clue to learning how to treat this.

For example, I cannot tolerate bass sounds and become fearful, feel like throwing up and crying and my heart beats fast and I feel like I have to leave.

Yet, when I was at work they were doing construction on the floor below us and playing very loud music with pounding bass from a boom box, and when I was in my cubicle here I could hear bass sounds, but being I was away from my apartment and knew of the origin and the fact that they were just nice construction guys working, the sound didn't bother me. Yet, those very same sounds would throw me in a rage if I was at home.

So, go figure.

Also, when I was at home the dishwasher was loud and perhaps a pan was hitting it and making it sound like bass and the dishwasher was thumping. I first thought that it was the neighbors playing music and I started to become nervous, then when I realized it was just the dishwasher, I was okay and could tolerate it.

It probably all ties into anxiety as you can see there is a psychological component in it.

Subject: Re: Learning more so I can helpTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 4:22 PM

I notice that the context of the offending sound/sight is what triggers my rage. For example, loud motorcycles and cars enrage me yet thunder and freight trains do not although they sound very similar. Sometimes I mistake a thunder storm or a train for a sound system or motorcycle. I am enraged until I find out the source/context of the sound. If the source turns out to be lightning or a freight train, I am immediately relieved of my rage and stress and the sound no longer bothers me.I believe that the source/context of the offending sight/sound holds the key to finding a treatment or cure. > >> > Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They> > were desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found> > out that I am not able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or> > you aren't.> > I would not give up on the idea after just one experience. It is possible that you experienced light stage of hypnosis without realizing it. Depending on how young you were, it is possible that you were not intellectually ready for hypnotic methods. There is a certain ability to set aside critical thinking required. Also, there are varying styles of obtaining hypnosis. If one method did not work, another might. If NLP

methods are used, hypnotic depth is not necessarily required. I have seen NLP techniques work in the fully conscious state.>

August 31, 2011

My children never bothered me ever until this past year. Now my oldest son is starting to bother me with gum chewing and bowl scraping with the spoon. But other than that, they can do everything and anything others do and it does not bother me at all. Especially with breathing. My 2 year old has asthma and breaths very heavy and loud all the time and does not bother me in the least bit but anyone else who does the same bothers the heck out of me!

Subject: Re: Re: Learning more so I can helpTo: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:52 PM

My children's chewing doesn't bother me...but, if I had to sleep next to one of them snoring....it would.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:10 PMSubject: Re: Learning more so I can help

This is all very helpful to know. Do others of you have examples of soft sounds that don't bother you that are similar to those that do? I know this is going to be highly individual, but it may give further insight into how to approach this. Are there contrasts in how the who affects you? What of those of you who are parents? Is it different with the children?>> There is a lot of context around my triggers also.Ã‚ Not only that,> some of the things that used to trigger me no longer do, and of> course some things that didn't used to trigger me now do.Ã‚ It is> really odd, and that makes me think there is an> environmental/psychological

component to it as well as a> physiological one.

August 31, 2011

I have to do the same thing! I HAVE to know where the source of the sound is coming from. It will drive me insane until I know and then I just hate it will all my might for making the noise! haha

Subject: Re: Learning more so I can helpTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 4:22 PM

I notice that the context of the offending sound/sight is what triggers my rage. For example, loud motorcycles and cars enrage me yet thunder and freight trains do not although they sound very similar. Sometimes I mistake a thunder storm or a train for a sound system or motorcycle. I am enraged until I find out the source/context of the sound. If the source turns out to be lightning or a freight train, I am immediately relieved of my rage and stress and the sound no longer bothers me.I believe that the source/context of the offending sight/sound holds the key to finding a treatment or cure. > >> > Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They> > were desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found> > out that I am not able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or> > you aren't.> > I would not give up on the idea after just one experience. It is possible that you experienced light stage of hypnosis without realizing it. Depending on how young you were, it is possible that you were not intellectually ready for hypnotic methods. There is a certain ability to set aside critical thinking required. Also, there are varying styles of obtaining hypnosis. If one method did not work, another might. If NLP methods are used, hypnotic depth is not necessarily required. I have seen NLP techniques work in the fully conscious

state.>

August 31, 2011

I'm in Redondo Beach, CA, south of Los Angeles. I have not actually worked with

my client yet, so I don't know what will actually work. Let's give this some

time and see how the case goes. I will gladly share treatment notes with other

hypnotherapists as the case progresses, especially since it is apparent that

this community is so sorely in need of methods and strategies that will work.

So even if you are not in my area, it may be possible for you to benefit from my

efforts.

>

> > I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a

hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for

soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that

this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and

contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help

this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

> >

> > My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some

techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm

considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the

sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT),

the tapping method.

> >

> > I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any

kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what

type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and

relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you

could give me that might help my client.

> >

>

August 31, 2011

If my wife is breathing heavy when sleeping it is annoying - but if the dog is breathing heavy - No Problem - Go figure !!!!!!

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: Learning more so I can help

Ha Ha. This sounds so much like me. If the noise is caused by a human...that in my mind is being rude, ignorant, or should "know better" it bothers me. Sorry, but I too have caught myself searching outside for the source of the sounds...to see if it is being initiated/caused by a neighbor.....and immediately relieved if it is not. Glad to see I'm not alone.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: Learning more so I can help

I agree with finding the source of the sound as being a clue to learning how to treat this.

For example, I cannot tolerate bass sounds and become fearful, feel like throwing up and crying and my heart beats fast and I feel like I have to leave.

Yet, when I was at work they were doing construction on the floor below us and playing very loud music with pounding bass from a boom box, and when I was in my cubicle here I could hear bass sounds, but being I was away from my apartment and knew of the origin and the fact that they were just nice construction guys working, the sound didn't bother me. Yet, those very same sounds would throw me in a rage if I was at home.

So, go figure.

Also, when I was at home the dishwasher was loud and perhaps a pan was hitting it and making it sound like bass and the dishwasher was thumping. I first thought that it was the neighbors playing music and I started to become nervous, then when I realized it was just the dishwasher, I was okay and could tolerate it.

It probably all ties into anxiety as you can see there is a psychological component in it.

Subject: Re: Learning more so I can helpTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 4:22 PM

I notice that the context of the offending sound/sight is what triggers my rage. For example, loud motorcycles and cars enrage me yet thunder and freight trains do not although they sound very similar. Sometimes I mistake a thunder storm or a train for a sound system or motorcycle. I am enraged until I find out the source/context of the sound. If the source turns out to be lightning or a freight train, I am immediately relieved of my rage and stress and the sound no longer bothers me.I believe that the source/context of the offending sight/sound holds the key to finding a treatment or cure. > >> > Hypnosis is something that my parents tried when I was young. They> > were desperate to find out what was wrong with me. I quickly found> > out that I am not able to be hypnotized. I guess you either are or> > you aren't.> > I would not give up on the idea after just one experience. It is possible that you experienced light stage of hypnosis without realizing it. Depending on how young you were, it is possible that you were not intellectually ready for hypnotic methods. There is a certain ability to set aside critical thinking required. Also, there are varying styles of obtaining hypnosis. If one method did not work, another might. If NLP methods are used, hypnotic depth is not necessarily required. I have seen NLP techniques work in the fully conscious

state.>

August 31, 2011

roxannhiguera,

I am just a short drive away from Redondo beach. I live in Irvine CA and will be

moving to Fullerton, CA shortly. I am happy to see that someone is seriously

interested in working on a treatment for misophonia. Most therapists,

psychologists and psychiatrists do not take this problem seriously. They are

unaware of misophonia and misdiagnose it as a phobia or OCD. It is very

frustrating because they minimize the seriousness of this mality. I am willing

and anxious to be your guinea pig in researching a treatment for misophonia.

Since I am not working, I have a lot of time to devote to this project.

> >

> > > I'd like to thank the moderator for giving me access to your group. I am a

hypnotherapist. Today, I received a call from someone regarding sessions for

soft sound sensitivity. From what I've read of SSS already, I understand that

this is a serious disorder in that it affects interpersonal relationships and

contributes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I have a sincere desire to help

this client and her children who also have problems with SSS.

> > >

> > > My main aim will be to change the reaction to sounds. I am aware of some

techniques that work for tinnitus that I might apply to the case. I'm

considering Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) techniques to change the way the

sounds are perceived. I'm also going to try Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT),

the tapping method.

> > >

> > > I'd like to know from you, the members, if anyone has tried hypnosis, any

kind of relaxation therapy, or EFT to treat soft sound sensitivity. If so, what

type of suggestions were used? What was the outcome? Does meditation and

relaxation help you at all? I would be most grateful for any information you

could give me that might help my client.

> > >

> >

>

August 31, 2011

Similar sounds: I've had a horrible time throughout my life with other people's snoring. "Normal" people may get annoyed, irritated or irked if someone is snoring loudly, perhaps causing them to lose sleep. But if I hear it, it's absolute torture. Even if it's very soft, or very exaggerated "comedic" snoring (as on TV, in movies) it can torture me. Boy scout camp, sleepovers as a kid, or any situation involving sharing a room with anyone else who was sleeping meant I would get NO sleep and lie there with my fingers in my ears, waiting forever for the sun to come up. Curiously, my number one favorite sound in the world is the purring of a cat, especially a kitten. Like a tiny little motor ... soothing beyond words. But when you think of it, isn't purring

very similar to soft snoring?

August 31, 2011

I absolutely agree - sounds made by people are normally the trigger, and I have

to locate who it is that is making the noise. And also the more I am exposed to

the trigger, the more I react to it - it's like I tune into it. Sometimes I hear

a noise that I think is made by a human and get really annoyed. I then have to

try and track down the source of the noise - who is making it. If I end up

finding out that it's some sort of mechanical noise, most often I immediately

stop being bothered by it. I often sleep with the fan going, even when it's too

cold to have it on, just because I find the sound of it soothing.

I guess one exception to the mechanical/human distinction is TVs - I cannot

sleep if I can hear a TV. I just have to be able to hear the TV in the slightest

and it bothers me enough to stop me sleeping. I guess that's probably because

the sounds coming from the TV are often human voices though.

Has anyone else noticed that people singing along to music can be a trigger,

even if they are a good singer? I have noticed this in both my father and

boyfriend, both of whom are particularly bad triggers for me generally. But my

boyfriend has a wonderful voice (can't say that so much about my father!).

Also, has anyone also noticed whether this can affect your overall relations

with a person who is a trigger? I remember that I started getting this around

the age of 13, and my dad was definitely the first trigger. I recall that it was

around the age of 13 that the way I reacted to my dad, just in general, changed

- I became more short-tempered and impatient with him and I'm really not sure

why. This is even when he's not making the sounds that trigger it for me.

Katrina

>

> Similar sounds: I've had a horrible time throughout my life with other

people's snoring. " Normal " people may get annoyed, irritated or irked if someone

is snoring loudly, perhaps causing them to lose sleep. But if I hear it, it's

absolute torture. Even if it's very soft, or very exaggerated " comedic " snoring

(as on TV, in movies) it can torture me. Boy scout camp, sleepovers as a kid, or

any situation involving sharing a room with anyone else who was sleeping meant I

would get NO sleep and lie there with my fingers in my ears, waiting forever for

the sun to come up. Curiously, my number one favorite sound in the world is the

purring of a cat, especially a kitten. Like a tiny little motor ... soothing

beyond words. But when you think of it, isn't purring very similar to soft

snoring?

>

August 31, 2011

, I have a similar experience to you. I cannot stand snoring and cannot

sleep with snoring nearby but I find a cat's purr soothing. I think the quality

of the sound is very different. Snoring is much more harsh and gurgly, whereas a

purr is low and smooth (sort of). Snoring is also louder, usually.

A friend of mine once had an elderly cat that snored. As much as I loved this

cat, I couldn't sleep in the same room when it snored. So a cat's purring and a

cat's snoring are very different.