Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 , Yes, and/or Kim read all the email. They're very committed to this group and it's members. I'm continually awed at their ability to " keep up " with each of us. Someone has great organizational skills! As far as the symptoms go..well...what you've been told is really the truth..There's just no " set " time, it varies from person to person just like said. My son still suffers with some symptoms, and he's been at this over a year now. As much as you do not want to go back on the Paxil, you really should. My son was one who came off too quickly too, he did not want to begin taking it again, but once he understood the possible consequences of continuing cold turkey, he decided to follow s advise...today he is glad he did, it's made a tremendous difference. I'm really glad you're here , and I'm praying you'll find relief soon. Peaceful Blessings~~ Cheryl > > Thanks for guiding me here... im hoping to get some clearification > as to when these symptoms will go away. Does read all of > these e-mails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I tend to understand where you are coming from on this, but at the same time, appreciate 100% what is doing here. I am one of those that couldn't afford to pay anyone right now. Am I serious about getting better? Thanks for asking. Yes. We have all heard the excuses. Some are good and some are bad. think of it this way, when a woman is pregnant, her body feeds the baby over the mothers nutrition. THis can deplete the mother of needed nutrients, but nature decided it was more important to take care of the kid than the mother. Well, as a father, I tend to keep that tradition and would rather feed my children and take the hit myself. I would be one of those left behind.Sharon Pickersgill wrote: , I have been doing a lot of Spiritual work recently and one thatthat keeps coming up is to charge what you are worth and stop feeling guiltyabout people you won't be able to help. In fact, when you start insistingthat you get paid what you are worth, then people will respond to thatconfidence and people will pay. I say, set a fixed fee that IS what you areworth and have people pay ahead of time and then you can relax and enjoyhelping these people. I think that if someone really wants your advice,they will find a way to come up with the money. You are worth it! From theemails I have been reading, you are definitely worth being paid and beingpaid well. For those who are not willing to pay, let them go. They may notbe ready to really commit to withdrawal from whatever drug they need.Just my 2 cents!Sharon Pickersgill =)Mama to my little toddler, 2 year old Wife to Webb, the love of my life for 12 years!Leader of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/API_of_NorthPhoenix/ I've got to say this in general -- I think I've just about reachedmy point of being able to maintain this group. I'm tired of mostaspects of it. The straw that is breaking the camel's back is thestruggle to get people to send the fee THEY set to give me forconsultations. It's interesting. Those who have chosen to not pay yet are thosewho took the most time in consultation and often take the most time inemail. Yet, somehow they obviously feel I should do these things forthem for free. I don't know what else to think at this time. Thebottom line is, they are ruining it for everyone else. At this point,the way I work makes it available to everone. I can go to charging aset fee and asking for payment before the consult. I could do aquarter of the consults I do and still make the same money. Thiswould leave out a fair amount of people who couldn't afford the fee. I'm just griping. I don't do it very much but I've really reachedjust about the end of my rope.To subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I tend to understand where you are coming from on this, but at the same time, appreciate 100% what is doing here. I am one of those that couldn't afford to pay anyone right now. Am I serious about getting better? Thanks for asking. Yes. We have all heard the excuses. Some are good and some are bad. think of it this way, when a woman is pregnant, her body feeds the baby over the mothers nutrition. THis can deplete the mother of needed nutrients, but nature decided it was more important to take care of the kid than the mother. Well, as a father, I tend to keep that tradition and would rather feed my children and take the hit myself. I would be one of those left behind.Sharon Pickersgill wrote: , I have been doing a lot of Spiritual work recently and one thatthat keeps coming up is to charge what you are worth and stop feeling guiltyabout people you won't be able to help. In fact, when you start insistingthat you get paid what you are worth, then people will respond to thatconfidence and people will pay. I say, set a fixed fee that IS what you areworth and have people pay ahead of time and then you can relax and enjoyhelping these people. I think that if someone really wants your advice,they will find a way to come up with the money. You are worth it! From theemails I have been reading, you are definitely worth being paid and beingpaid well. For those who are not willing to pay, let them go. They may notbe ready to really commit to withdrawal from whatever drug they need.Just my 2 cents!Sharon Pickersgill =)Mama to my little toddler, 2 year old Wife to Webb, the love of my life for 12 years!Leader of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/API_of_NorthPhoenix/ I've got to say this in general -- I think I've just about reachedmy point of being able to maintain this group. I'm tired of mostaspects of it. The straw that is breaking the camel's back is thestruggle to get people to send the fee THEY set to give me forconsultations. It's interesting. Those who have chosen to not pay yet are thosewho took the most time in consultation and often take the most time inemail. Yet, somehow they obviously feel I should do these things forthem for free. I don't know what else to think at this time. Thebottom line is, they are ruining it for everyone else. At this point,the way I work makes it available to everone. I can go to charging aset fee and asking for payment before the consult. I could do aquarter of the consults I do and still make the same money. Thiswould leave out a fair amount of people who couldn't afford the fee. I'm just griping. I don't do it very much but I've really reachedjust about the end of my rope.To subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I tend to understand where you are coming from on this, but at the same time, appreciate 100% what is doing here. I am one of those that couldn't afford to pay anyone right now. Am I serious about getting better? Thanks for asking. Yes. We have all heard the excuses. Some are good and some are bad. think of it this way, when a woman is pregnant, her body feeds the baby over the mothers nutrition. THis can deplete the mother of needed nutrients, but nature decided it was more important to take care of the kid than the mother. Well, as a father, I tend to keep that tradition and would rather feed my children and take the hit myself. I would be one of those left behind.Sharon Pickersgill wrote: , I have been doing a lot of Spiritual work recently and one thatthat keeps coming up is to charge what you are worth and stop feeling guiltyabout people you won't be able to help. In fact, when you start insistingthat you get paid what you are worth, then people will respond to thatconfidence and people will pay. I say, set a fixed fee that IS what you areworth and have people pay ahead of time and then you can relax and enjoyhelping these people. I think that if someone really wants your advice,they will find a way to come up with the money. You are worth it! From theemails I have been reading, you are definitely worth being paid and beingpaid well. For those who are not willing to pay, let them go. They may notbe ready to really commit to withdrawal from whatever drug they need.Just my 2 cents!Sharon Pickersgill =)Mama to my little toddler, 2 year old Wife to Webb, the love of my life for 12 years!Leader of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/API_of_NorthPhoenix/ I've got to say this in general -- I think I've just about reachedmy point of being able to maintain this group. I'm tired of mostaspects of it. The straw that is breaking the camel's back is thestruggle to get people to send the fee THEY set to give me forconsultations. It's interesting. Those who have chosen to not pay yet are thosewho took the most time in consultation and often take the most time inemail. Yet, somehow they obviously feel I should do these things forthem for free. I don't know what else to think at this time. Thebottom line is, they are ruining it for everyone else. At this point,the way I work makes it available to everone. I can go to charging aset fee and asking for payment before the consult. I could do aquarter of the consults I do and still make the same money. Thiswould leave out a fair amount of people who couldn't afford the fee. I'm just griping. I don't do it very much but I've really reachedjust about the end of my rope.To subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Hi V., 's fee structure is designed so that no one has to take food from their children's mouths. If someone can only afford to pay $20, $10 or even $5, well that's okay. Sometimes people pay several installments of $5 or $10, just because they feel the service is valuable to them but they can't afford much at any one time. It's all open and flexible. The whole idea is to exchange some energy, instead of having all the expenditure be one-sided. While I respect your concern for your children, I wonder if you really want to be modeling for them an attitude of such fear of scarcity. Besides, if you show them that you value yourself enough to take good care of yourself, the message they will receive is not that Dad is wasting money on himself, but that it's good to value oneself and take care of oneself. Children learn how to be people by watching how their parents do it, which means it's not so much about what you give them as what you model for them. Blessings, Kim > I tend to understand where you are coming from on this, but at the same time, appreciate 100% what is doing here. I am one of those that couldn't afford to pay anyone right now. Am I serious about getting better? Thanks for asking. Yes. We have all heard the excuses. Some are good and some are bad. think of it this way, when a woman is pregnant, her body feeds the baby over the mothers nutrition. THis can deplete the mother of needed nutrients, but nature decided it was more important to take care of the kid than the mother. Well, as a father, I tend to keep that tradition and would rather feed my children and take the hit myself. I would be one of those left behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Hi V., 's fee structure is designed so that no one has to take food from their children's mouths. If someone can only afford to pay $20, $10 or even $5, well that's okay. Sometimes people pay several installments of $5 or $10, just because they feel the service is valuable to them but they can't afford much at any one time. It's all open and flexible. The whole idea is to exchange some energy, instead of having all the expenditure be one-sided. While I respect your concern for your children, I wonder if you really want to be modeling for them an attitude of such fear of scarcity. Besides, if you show them that you value yourself enough to take good care of yourself, the message they will receive is not that Dad is wasting money on himself, but that it's good to value oneself and take care of oneself. Children learn how to be people by watching how their parents do it, which means it's not so much about what you give them as what you model for them. Blessings, Kim > I tend to understand where you are coming from on this, but at the same time, appreciate 100% what is doing here. I am one of those that couldn't afford to pay anyone right now. Am I serious about getting better? Thanks for asking. Yes. We have all heard the excuses. Some are good and some are bad. think of it this way, when a woman is pregnant, her body feeds the baby over the mothers nutrition. THis can deplete the mother of needed nutrients, but nature decided it was more important to take care of the kid than the mother. Well, as a father, I tend to keep that tradition and would rather feed my children and take the hit myself. I would be one of those left behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Dear Sharon, You said: > , I have been doing a lot of Spiritual work recently and one that > that keeps coming up is to charge what you are worth and stop feeling guilty > about people you won't be able to help.>> ** I don't feel guilty at all. That's not why I do it. I do it because I like that way best. I hold the same philosophy as you. But, everyone has a different path to walk. I thought this was mine. It may still be, but I am about 5 min. away from somewhat changing my policy. In fact, when you start insisting > that you get paid what you are worth, then people will respond to that > confidence and people will pay. I say, set a fixed fee that IS what you are > worth and have people pay ahead of time and then you can relax and enjoy > helping these people. I think that if someone really wants your advice, > they will find a way to come up with the money. You are worth it! From the > emails I have been reading, you are definitely worth being paid and being > paid well. For those who are not willing to pay, let them go. They may not > be ready to really commit to withdrawal from whatever drug they need. > > Just my 2 cents!>> ** I agree again. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Dear Sharon, You said: > , I have been doing a lot of Spiritual work recently and one that > that keeps coming up is to charge what you are worth and stop feeling guilty > about people you won't be able to help.>> ** I don't feel guilty at all. That's not why I do it. I do it because I like that way best. I hold the same philosophy as you. But, everyone has a different path to walk. I thought this was mine. It may still be, but I am about 5 min. away from somewhat changing my policy. In fact, when you start insisting > that you get paid what you are worth, then people will respond to that > confidence and people will pay. I say, set a fixed fee that IS what you are > worth and have people pay ahead of time and then you can relax and enjoy > helping these people. I think that if someone really wants your advice, > they will find a way to come up with the money. You are worth it! From the > emails I have been reading, you are definitely worth being paid and being > paid well. For those who are not willing to pay, let them go. They may not > be ready to really commit to withdrawal from whatever drug they need. > > Just my 2 cents!>> ** I agree again. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Dear Sharon, You said: > , I have been doing a lot of Spiritual work recently and one that > that keeps coming up is to charge what you are worth and stop feeling guilty > about people you won't be able to help.>> ** I don't feel guilty at all. That's not why I do it. I do it because I like that way best. I hold the same philosophy as you. But, everyone has a different path to walk. I thought this was mine. It may still be, but I am about 5 min. away from somewhat changing my policy. In fact, when you start insisting > that you get paid what you are worth, then people will respond to that > confidence and people will pay. I say, set a fixed fee that IS what you are > worth and have people pay ahead of time and then you can relax and enjoy > helping these people. I think that if someone really wants your advice, > they will find a way to come up with the money. You are worth it! From the > emails I have been reading, you are definitely worth being paid and being > paid well. For those who are not willing to pay, let them go. They may not > be ready to really commit to withdrawal from whatever drug they need. > > Just my 2 cents!>> ** I agree again. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Jan sent this to me, but you might want to give it to your sister. For Immediate Release: May 5, 2005 Contact: Archer, Friends of the Earth, 202-222-712 Donegan, Breast Cancer Fund, x14 Malkan, Campaign for Safe Cosmetics x105 http://www.foe.org/new/releases/0505cometics.html?key=82 MORE THAN 100 COSMETIC AND BODY CARE COMPANIES PLEDGE TO MAKE SAFER PRODUCTS Mother's Day promise may signal market shift in cosmetics industry SAN FRANCISCO-On the eve of Mother's Day, when many sons and daughters purchase cosmetics and personal care products as gifts for their moms, the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reports that 116 cosmetics and personal care product manufacturers have signed the "Compact for Safe Cosmetics," a pledge to replace hazardous ingredients with safer alternatives within three years. Amid a flurry of media scrutiny and growing public concern about toxic chemicals in cosmetics, many cosmetics manufacturers are reformulating their products to remove ingredients known to be carcinogens, mutagens and reproductive toxins. In addition, stricter European laws have forced U.S.-based companies to examine more closely the safety of chemical ingredients in products sold in the United States and other worldwide markets. Several major companies, including L'Oréal (OTC: LORLY [ADR]), Revlon (NYSE: REV) and Estée Lauder (NYSE: EL), have agreed to the first requirement of the Compact for Safe Cosmetics, by announcing that they will meet the standards and deadlines set by the European Union Directive 76/768/EEC, wherever their products are sold. The EU directive, which became law in 25 European countries on October 1, 2004, requires products to be free of chemicals that are known or strongly suspected of causing cancer, genetic mutation or birth defects. Despite repeated requests, however, these and other major multinational cosmetics companies have thus far refused to sign the full "Compact for the Global Production of Safe Health and Beauty Products," which would commit them to undertake an inventory of all ingredients; determine whether they use chemicals that pose hazards including cancer, endocrine disruption, genetic mutation, reproductive toxicity, developmental harm and neurotoxicity; and implement a plan to replace those ingredients with safe alternatives within three years. Commonly-used cosmetics ingredients that pose such risks include formaldehyde, coal lead acetate, silica, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulphate and p-phenylenediamine. The Compact for Safe Cosmetics was developed by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics, a coalition of U.S.-based health and environmental groups, as a way to protect consumers from toxic chemicals and hold companies accountable for the safety of their products. In recent months, the rate at which companies have signed the Compact has increased significantly. "We congratulate the 116 companies who have signed the Compact for Safe Cosmetics," said Jeanne Rizzo, R.N., executive director of the Breast Cancer Fund, a founding member of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. "It is our fervent hope that more companies will follow their lead and make a firm, unwavering commitment to protect our health by ensuring cosmetic safety." Contrary to what many consumers may believe, the FDA does not review or regulate cosmetics products or ingredients for safety before they are sold to the public and has no legal authority to require safety assessments of cosmetics ( www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-206.html ) As a result, one out of every 100 personal care products on the market contains known or probable carcinogens and 89 percent of ingredients in products have not been assessed for safety, according to a study by the Environmental Working Group ( http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep/ ). Women and girls use an average of 12 personal care products daily, according to a 2004 survey conducted by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. Current Compact signers include Aubrey Organics, Avalon Natural Products, and Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps. For the full list, please visit http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/foe/news.jsp?key=82 ### Founding members of The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics include: Alliance for a Healthy Tomorrow, The Breast Cancer Fund, Commonweal, Friends of the Earth, Women's Voices for the Earth, Environmental Working Group, National Black Environmental Justice Network and National Environmental Trust. ========== "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Jan sent this to me, but you might want to give it to your sister. For Immediate Release: May 5, 2005 Contact: Archer, Friends of the Earth, 202-222-712 Donegan, Breast Cancer Fund, x14 Malkan, Campaign for Safe Cosmetics x105 http://www.foe.org/new/releases/0505cometics.html?key=82 MORE THAN 100 COSMETIC AND BODY CARE COMPANIES PLEDGE TO MAKE SAFER PRODUCTS Mother's Day promise may signal market shift in cosmetics industry SAN FRANCISCO-On the eve of Mother's Day, when many sons and daughters purchase cosmetics and personal care products as gifts for their moms, the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reports that 116 cosmetics and personal care product manufacturers have signed the "Compact for Safe Cosmetics," a pledge to replace hazardous ingredients with safer alternatives within three years. Amid a flurry of media scrutiny and growing public concern about toxic chemicals in cosmetics, many cosmetics manufacturers are reformulating their products to remove ingredients known to be carcinogens, mutagens and reproductive toxins. In addition, stricter European laws have forced U.S.-based companies to examine more closely the safety of chemical ingredients in products sold in the United States and other worldwide markets. Several major companies, including L'Oréal (OTC: LORLY [ADR]), Revlon (NYSE: REV) and Estée Lauder (NYSE: EL), have agreed to the first requirement of the Compact for Safe Cosmetics, by announcing that they will meet the standards and deadlines set by the European Union Directive 76/768/EEC, wherever their products are sold. The EU directive, which became law in 25 European countries on October 1, 2004, requires products to be free of chemicals that are known or strongly suspected of causing cancer, genetic mutation or birth defects. Despite repeated requests, however, these and other major multinational cosmetics companies have thus far refused to sign the full "Compact for the Global Production of Safe Health and Beauty Products," which would commit them to undertake an inventory of all ingredients; determine whether they use chemicals that pose hazards including cancer, endocrine disruption, genetic mutation, reproductive toxicity, developmental harm and neurotoxicity; and implement a plan to replace those ingredients with safe alternatives within three years. Commonly-used cosmetics ingredients that pose such risks include formaldehyde, coal lead acetate, silica, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulphate and p-phenylenediamine. The Compact for Safe Cosmetics was developed by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics, a coalition of U.S.-based health and environmental groups, as a way to protect consumers from toxic chemicals and hold companies accountable for the safety of their products. In recent months, the rate at which companies have signed the Compact has increased significantly. "We congratulate the 116 companies who have signed the Compact for Safe Cosmetics," said Jeanne Rizzo, R.N., executive director of the Breast Cancer Fund, a founding member of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. "It is our fervent hope that more companies will follow their lead and make a firm, unwavering commitment to protect our health by ensuring cosmetic safety." Contrary to what many consumers may believe, the FDA does not review or regulate cosmetics products or ingredients for safety before they are sold to the public and has no legal authority to require safety assessments of cosmetics ( www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-206.html ) As a result, one out of every 100 personal care products on the market contains known or probable carcinogens and 89 percent of ingredients in products have not been assessed for safety, according to a study by the Environmental Working Group ( http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep/ ). Women and girls use an average of 12 personal care products daily, according to a 2004 survey conducted by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. Current Compact signers include Aubrey Organics, Avalon Natural Products, and Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps. For the full list, please visit http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/foe/news.jsp?key=82 ### Founding members of The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics include: Alliance for a Healthy Tomorrow, The Breast Cancer Fund, Commonweal, Friends of the Earth, Women's Voices for the Earth, Environmental Working Group, National Black Environmental Justice Network and National Environmental Trust. ========== "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Jan sent this to me, but you might want to give it to your sister. For Immediate Release: May 5, 2005 Contact: Archer, Friends of the Earth, 202-222-712 Donegan, Breast Cancer Fund, x14 Malkan, Campaign for Safe Cosmetics x105 http://www.foe.org/new/releases/0505cometics.html?key=82 MORE THAN 100 COSMETIC AND BODY CARE COMPANIES PLEDGE TO MAKE SAFER PRODUCTS Mother's Day promise may signal market shift in cosmetics industry SAN FRANCISCO-On the eve of Mother's Day, when many sons and daughters purchase cosmetics and personal care products as gifts for their moms, the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reports that 116 cosmetics and personal care product manufacturers have signed the "Compact for Safe Cosmetics," a pledge to replace hazardous ingredients with safer alternatives within three years. Amid a flurry of media scrutiny and growing public concern about toxic chemicals in cosmetics, many cosmetics manufacturers are reformulating their products to remove ingredients known to be carcinogens, mutagens and reproductive toxins. In addition, stricter European laws have forced U.S.-based companies to examine more closely the safety of chemical ingredients in products sold in the United States and other worldwide markets. Several major companies, including L'Oréal (OTC: LORLY [ADR]), Revlon (NYSE: REV) and Estée Lauder (NYSE: EL), have agreed to the first requirement of the Compact for Safe Cosmetics, by announcing that they will meet the standards and deadlines set by the European Union Directive 76/768/EEC, wherever their products are sold. The EU directive, which became law in 25 European countries on October 1, 2004, requires products to be free of chemicals that are known or strongly suspected of causing cancer, genetic mutation or birth defects. Despite repeated requests, however, these and other major multinational cosmetics companies have thus far refused to sign the full "Compact for the Global Production of Safe Health and Beauty Products," which would commit them to undertake an inventory of all ingredients; determine whether they use chemicals that pose hazards including cancer, endocrine disruption, genetic mutation, reproductive toxicity, developmental harm and neurotoxicity; and implement a plan to replace those ingredients with safe alternatives within three years. Commonly-used cosmetics ingredients that pose such risks include formaldehyde, coal lead acetate, silica, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulphate and p-phenylenediamine. The Compact for Safe Cosmetics was developed by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics, a coalition of U.S.-based health and environmental groups, as a way to protect consumers from toxic chemicals and hold companies accountable for the safety of their products. In recent months, the rate at which companies have signed the Compact has increased significantly. "We congratulate the 116 companies who have signed the Compact for Safe Cosmetics," said Jeanne Rizzo, R.N., executive director of the Breast Cancer Fund, a founding member of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. "It is our fervent hope that more companies will follow their lead and make a firm, unwavering commitment to protect our health by ensuring cosmetic safety." Contrary to what many consumers may believe, the FDA does not review or regulate cosmetics products or ingredients for safety before they are sold to the public and has no legal authority to require safety assessments of cosmetics ( www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-206.html ) As a result, one out of every 100 personal care products on the market contains known or probable carcinogens and 89 percent of ingredients in products have not been assessed for safety, according to a study by the Environmental Working Group ( http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep/ ). Women and girls use an average of 12 personal care products daily, according to a 2004 survey conducted by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. Current Compact signers include Aubrey Organics, Avalon Natural Products, and Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps. For the full list, please visit http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/foe/news.jsp?key=82 ### Founding members of The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics include: Alliance for a Healthy Tomorrow, The Breast Cancer Fund, Commonweal, Friends of the Earth, Women's Voices for the Earth, Environmental Working Group, National Black Environmental Justice Network and National Environmental Trust. ========== "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 showing this too my sister will do nothing. she doesnt care. but, i will keep it in mind. it has been a few days since she has worn the body lotion so hopefully it will kind of continue. right now, we have no relationship and dont talk. that is the way i like to keep it. when we start forming a relationship then she feels comfortable to do whatever she wants at any time. which, means bad things for me. this has been a pattern we have had since i can remember and i always thought she would mature out of it. but, it never happened. she actually got less sensitive, more arrogant, more bitchy, more attitude as she got older. i just gave up about a year ago and as much as i would like to have a sibling i could hang out with. it isnt going to happen. sorry, for all that, but im trying to shed light on why i just dont present good information to her. jason > Jan sent this to me, but you might want to give it to your sister. > > > > > > For Immediate Release: May 5, 2005 > Contact: > Archer, Friends of the Earth, 202-222-712 > Donegan, Breast Cancer Fund, x14 > Malkan, Campaign for Safe Cosmetics x105 > > http://www.foe.org/new/releases/0505cometics.html?key=82 > > > > > MORE THAN 100 COSMETIC AND > BODY CARE COMPANIES PLEDGE > TO MAKE SAFER PRODUCTS > > Mother's Day promise may signal market shift in cosmetics industry > > > SAN FRANCISCO-On the eve of Mother's Day, when many sons and daughters > purchase cosmetics and personal care products as gifts for their moms, > the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reports that 116 cosmetics and personal > care product manufacturers have signed the " Compact for Safe Cosmetics, " > a pledge to replace hazardous ingredients with safer alternatives within > three years. > > Amid a flurry of media scrutiny and growing public concern about toxic > chemicals in cosmetics, many cosmetics manufacturers are reformulating > their products to remove ingredients known to be carcinogens, mutagens > and reproductive toxins. In addition, stricter European laws have forced > U.S.-based companies to examine more closely the safety of chemical > ingredients in products sold in the United States and other worldwide > markets. > > Several major companies, including L'Oréal (OTC: LORLY [ADR]), Revlon > (NYSE: REV) and Estée Lauder (NYSE: EL), have agreed to the first > requirement of the Compact for Safe Cosmetics, by announcing that they > will meet the standards and deadlines set by the European Union > Directive 76/768/EEC, wherever their products are sold. The EU > directive, which became law in 25 European countries on October 1, 2004, > requires products to be free of chemicals that are known or strongly > suspected of causing cancer, genetic mutation or birth defects. > > Despite repeated requests, however, these and other major multinational > cosmetics companies have thus far refused to sign the full " Compact for > the Global Production of Safe Health and Beauty Products, " which would > commit them to undertake an inventory of all ingredients; determine > whether they use chemicals that pose hazards including cancer, endocrine > disruption, genetic mutation, reproductive toxicity, developmental harm > and neurotoxicity; and implement a plan to replace those ingredients > with safe alternatives within three years. <FONT COLOR= " #ff0000 " SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY= " SANSSERIF " FACE= " AriCommonly-used cosmetics > ingredients that pose such risks include formaldehyde, coal > lead acetate, silica, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulphate > and p-phenylenediamine. > > The Compact for Safe Cosmetics was developed by the Campaign for Safe > Cosmetics, a coalition of U.S.-based health and environmental groups, as > a way to protect consumers from toxic chemicals and hold companies > accountable for the safety of their products. In recent months, the rate > at which companies have signed the Compact has increased significantly. > > " We congratulate the 116 companies who have signed the Compact for Safe > Cosmetics, " said Jeanne Rizzo, R.N., executive director of the Breast > Cancer Fund, a founding member of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. " It > is our fervent hope that more companies will follow their lead and make > a firm, unwavering commitment to protect our health by ensuring cosmetic > safety. " > > Contrary to what many consumers may believe, the FDA does not review or > regulate cosmetics products or ingredients for safety before they are > sold to the public and has no legal authority to require safety > assessments of cosmetics > ( www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-206.html ) > As a result, one out of every 100 personal care products on the market > contains known or probable carcinogens and 89 percent of ingredients in > products have not been assessed for safety, according to a study by the > Environmental Working Group > ( http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep/ ). > > Women and girls use an average of 12 personal care products daily, > according to a 2004 survey conducted by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. > > > Current Compact signers include Aubrey Organics, Avalon Natural > Products, and Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps. For the full list, please visit > http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/foe/news.jsp?key=82 > > ### > > Founding members of The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics include: Alliance > for a Healthy Tomorrow, The Breast Cancer Fund, Commonweal, Friends of > the Earth, Women's Voices for the Earth, Environmental Working Group, > National Black Environmental Justice Network and National Environmental > Trust. > ========== > > > > > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 showing this too my sister will do nothing. she doesnt care. but, i will keep it in mind. it has been a few days since she has worn the body lotion so hopefully it will kind of continue. right now, we have no relationship and dont talk. that is the way i like to keep it. when we start forming a relationship then she feels comfortable to do whatever she wants at any time. which, means bad things for me. this has been a pattern we have had since i can remember and i always thought she would mature out of it. but, it never happened. she actually got less sensitive, more arrogant, more bitchy, more attitude as she got older. i just gave up about a year ago and as much as i would like to have a sibling i could hang out with. it isnt going to happen. sorry, for all that, but im trying to shed light on why i just dont present good information to her. jason > Jan sent this to me, but you might want to give it to your sister. > > > > > > For Immediate Release: May 5, 2005 > Contact: > Archer, Friends of the Earth, 202-222-712 > Donegan, Breast Cancer Fund, x14 > Malkan, Campaign for Safe Cosmetics x105 > > http://www.foe.org/new/releases/0505cometics.html?key=82 > > > > > MORE THAN 100 COSMETIC AND > BODY CARE COMPANIES PLEDGE > TO MAKE SAFER PRODUCTS > > Mother's Day promise may signal market shift in cosmetics industry > > > SAN FRANCISCO-On the eve of Mother's Day, when many sons and daughters > purchase cosmetics and personal care products as gifts for their moms, > the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reports that 116 cosmetics and personal > care product manufacturers have signed the " Compact for Safe Cosmetics, " > a pledge to replace hazardous ingredients with safer alternatives within > three years. > > Amid a flurry of media scrutiny and growing public concern about toxic > chemicals in cosmetics, many cosmetics manufacturers are reformulating > their products to remove ingredients known to be carcinogens, mutagens > and reproductive toxins. In addition, stricter European laws have forced > U.S.-based companies to examine more closely the safety of chemical > ingredients in products sold in the United States and other worldwide > markets. > > Several major companies, including L'Oréal (OTC: LORLY [ADR]), Revlon > (NYSE: REV) and Estée Lauder (NYSE: EL), have agreed to the first > requirement of the Compact for Safe Cosmetics, by announcing that they > will meet the standards and deadlines set by the European Union > Directive 76/768/EEC, wherever their products are sold. The EU > directive, which became law in 25 European countries on October 1, 2004, > requires products to be free of chemicals that are known or strongly > suspected of causing cancer, genetic mutation or birth defects. > > Despite repeated requests, however, these and other major multinational > cosmetics companies have thus far refused to sign the full " Compact for > the Global Production of Safe Health and Beauty Products, " which would > commit them to undertake an inventory of all ingredients; determine > whether they use chemicals that pose hazards including cancer, endocrine > disruption, genetic mutation, reproductive toxicity, developmental harm > and neurotoxicity; and implement a plan to replace those ingredients > with safe alternatives within three years. <FONT COLOR= " #ff0000 " SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY= " SANSSERIF " FACE= " AriCommonly-used cosmetics > ingredients that pose such risks include formaldehyde, coal > lead acetate, silica, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulphate > and p-phenylenediamine. > > The Compact for Safe Cosmetics was developed by the Campaign for Safe > Cosmetics, a coalition of U.S.-based health and environmental groups, as > a way to protect consumers from toxic chemicals and hold companies > accountable for the safety of their products. In recent months, the rate > at which companies have signed the Compact has increased significantly. > > " We congratulate the 116 companies who have signed the Compact for Safe > Cosmetics, " said Jeanne Rizzo, R.N., executive director of the Breast > Cancer Fund, a founding member of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. " It > is our fervent hope that more companies will follow their lead and make > a firm, unwavering commitment to protect our health by ensuring cosmetic > safety. " > > Contrary to what many consumers may believe, the FDA does not review or > regulate cosmetics products or ingredients for safety before they are > sold to the public and has no legal authority to require safety > assessments of cosmetics > ( www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-206.html ) > As a result, one out of every 100 personal care products on the market > contains known or probable carcinogens and 89 percent of ingredients in > products have not been assessed for safety, according to a study by the > Environmental Working Group > ( http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep/ ). > > Women and girls use an average of 12 personal care products daily, > according to a 2004 survey conducted by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. > > > Current Compact signers include Aubrey Organics, Avalon Natural > Products, and Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps. For the full list, please visit > http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/foe/news.jsp?key=82 > > ### > > Founding members of The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics include: Alliance > for a Healthy Tomorrow, The Breast Cancer Fund, Commonweal, Friends of > the Earth, Women's Voices for the Earth, Environmental Working Group, > National Black Environmental Justice Network and National Environmental > Trust. > ========== > > > > > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 showing this too my sister will do nothing. she doesnt care. but, i will keep it in mind. it has been a few days since she has worn the body lotion so hopefully it will kind of continue. right now, we have no relationship and dont talk. that is the way i like to keep it. when we start forming a relationship then she feels comfortable to do whatever she wants at any time. which, means bad things for me. this has been a pattern we have had since i can remember and i always thought she would mature out of it. but, it never happened. she actually got less sensitive, more arrogant, more bitchy, more attitude as she got older. i just gave up about a year ago and as much as i would like to have a sibling i could hang out with. it isnt going to happen. sorry, for all that, but im trying to shed light on why i just dont present good information to her. jason > Jan sent this to me, but you might want to give it to your sister. > > > > > > For Immediate Release: May 5, 2005 > Contact: > Archer, Friends of the Earth, 202-222-712 > Donegan, Breast Cancer Fund, x14 > Malkan, Campaign for Safe Cosmetics x105 > > http://www.foe.org/new/releases/0505cometics.html?key=82 > > > > > MORE THAN 100 COSMETIC AND > BODY CARE COMPANIES PLEDGE > TO MAKE SAFER PRODUCTS > > Mother's Day promise may signal market shift in cosmetics industry > > > SAN FRANCISCO-On the eve of Mother's Day, when many sons and daughters > purchase cosmetics and personal care products as gifts for their moms, > the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics reports that 116 cosmetics and personal > care product manufacturers have signed the " Compact for Safe Cosmetics, " > a pledge to replace hazardous ingredients with safer alternatives within > three years. > > Amid a flurry of media scrutiny and growing public concern about toxic > chemicals in cosmetics, many cosmetics manufacturers are reformulating > their products to remove ingredients known to be carcinogens, mutagens > and reproductive toxins. In addition, stricter European laws have forced > U.S.-based companies to examine more closely the safety of chemical > ingredients in products sold in the United States and other worldwide > markets. > > Several major companies, including L'Oréal (OTC: LORLY [ADR]), Revlon > (NYSE: REV) and Estée Lauder (NYSE: EL), have agreed to the first > requirement of the Compact for Safe Cosmetics, by announcing that they > will meet the standards and deadlines set by the European Union > Directive 76/768/EEC, wherever their products are sold. The EU > directive, which became law in 25 European countries on October 1, 2004, > requires products to be free of chemicals that are known or strongly > suspected of causing cancer, genetic mutation or birth defects. > > Despite repeated requests, however, these and other major multinational > cosmetics companies have thus far refused to sign the full " Compact for > the Global Production of Safe Health and Beauty Products, " which would > commit them to undertake an inventory of all ingredients; determine > whether they use chemicals that pose hazards including cancer, endocrine > disruption, genetic mutation, reproductive toxicity, developmental harm > and neurotoxicity; and implement a plan to replace those ingredients > with safe alternatives within three years. <FONT COLOR= " #ff0000 " SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY= " SANSSERIF " FACE= " AriCommonly-used cosmetics > ingredients that pose such risks include formaldehyde, coal > lead acetate, silica, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulphate > and p-phenylenediamine. > > The Compact for Safe Cosmetics was developed by the Campaign for Safe > Cosmetics, a coalition of U.S.-based health and environmental groups, as > a way to protect consumers from toxic chemicals and hold companies > accountable for the safety of their products. In recent months, the rate > at which companies have signed the Compact has increased significantly. > > " We congratulate the 116 companies who have signed the Compact for Safe > Cosmetics, " said Jeanne Rizzo, R.N., executive director of the Breast > Cancer Fund, a founding member of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. " It > is our fervent hope that more companies will follow their lead and make > a firm, unwavering commitment to protect our health by ensuring cosmetic > safety. " > > Contrary to what many consumers may believe, the FDA does not review or > regulate cosmetics products or ingredients for safety before they are > sold to the public and has no legal authority to require safety > assessments of cosmetics > ( www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-206.html ) > As a result, one out of every 100 personal care products on the market > contains known or probable carcinogens and 89 percent of ingredients in > products have not been assessed for safety, according to a study by the > Environmental Working Group > ( http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep/ ). > > Women and girls use an average of 12 personal care products daily, > according to a 2004 survey conducted by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. > > > Current Compact signers include Aubrey Organics, Avalon Natural > Products, and Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps. For the full list, please visit > http://www.demaction.org/dia/organizations/foe/news.jsp?key=82 > > ### > > Founding members of The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics include: Alliance > for a Healthy Tomorrow, The Breast Cancer Fund, Commonweal, Friends of > the Earth, Women's Voices for the Earth, Environmental Working Group, > National Black Environmental Justice Network and National Environmental > Trust. > ========== > > > > > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dear , Welcome to our Group. I am so sorry you feel poorly. My advice to you is to go to fibrofix.com. Some get a lot out of it. It was written by a friend of the fibro group who has since passed away. Here is a part of an earlier note I wrote to a newcomer as well. Begin taking all processed foods and anything with preservatives and MSG and Spike Seasoning off your diet. These really are as poison to our system. Learn to eat naturally with lots of yellow and orange vegetables. I know the temptation like eating bagged snacks....check the ingredients...scary. I use one part of water to two parts of the unfiltered apple cider vinegar for pain. I use a jigger for the measurements about three to four times a day. I had a bad bout this evening...so I will be getting my vinegar after I write this note. The vinegar helps alkalize the body. Aleve does not have ibuprofen therefore it is safer to use. Tylenol has ibuprofen. My physician has advised me on this information.  Sometimes dairy products can affect you negatively. I use soy milk or almond milk as much as possible but I must admit I freely use the butters, and real yogurts. You need to start taking foods off your diet and begin testing by fasting on a particular food for the week or two and then add it back to your diet. If the pain crops up, you know the culprit that brings it. I had to do this with a lot of foods to find out that I can only eat natural foods. I eat whole grain bread...two to three slices a week. I stay away from refined foods...I stay away from refined rice. I sure miss my red beans and rice. I now can only eat the beans. Whole grain rice is advised but I prefer to stay away because I actually have an allergy to grains as well. Check yourself for Candida. If you have a problem with this, get off all yeast foods, pickled foods, and fungus foods. These foods make yeast growth. Get off cheeses, as well, if you get severe headaches. You will not get well today or tomorrow, dear, but there is LIGHT at the end of your road through culinary cleansing. You will feel better. I am feeling so much better now. Once in a while I go through a bout. But this is nothing as before now that I watch what I eat. One more thing, I take colon cleanses and liver cleanses every four to five months. Sedentary life style brings a lot of bowel syndromes and Cleanses help clean out system and purify the blood. Christie, you will find many friends here. Each will inform you what has helped them. But there is one common line that runs through all their notes. That is have Faith, Our Lord will always have you in the palm of His Hand. Will be praying for your health, Subject: New to group To: fibromyalgiacured Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:24 PM  Hi, my name is Cristie, I'm 39 years old, and have recently been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Although I'm pretty sure I've been suffering from it for the past 15 years or so, it has taken this long, and many negative tests, to get a dr to believe me. I don't deal with much pain other than my shoulders burning and aching. Cutting out caffeine and conning my kids and husband to massage them has helped quite a bit. My main problem is debilitating fatigue. You know the kind, sleep 9 hours and an hour after waking hardly having any energy. Most of my days recently have left me with only enough energy to function, but not even enough to feel emotion. As a home schooling mom of 3, that doesn't work so well. So my main question is: how does anyone else cope? Has anything worked for you all out there? Does acupuncture work? I'm desperate to stop surviving and start living again. I look forward to hearing from you all and really hope (although I'm afraid to) that you have some answers. The thought of living like this for the next 30-50 years is pretty hard to bear! Thanks, Cristie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 has so much good information! It may seem like a lot to do with the elimination diet. But if you do it one food at a time - abstain from it then add it in for 3 days you will for sure know what is reactive. What I did is eliminate all grains and dairy for 3 months. Then I tried one grain type and noticed what happened. I found out that way that I have celiac disease - where I am allergic (get IBS symptoms bad!) to wheat, barley, rye. I usually don't eat it, but when in a position of not knowing certainly that the allergic foods are not in the menue I found Gluten digest from Now that has enzymes so I don't get symptoms. For myself I can eat oats, rice, corn, millet, amaranth, quinua. I also found that I am not too sensitive to dairy but I like rice and almond milk anyway. Good luck with this. There are solutions and a lot of them are inexpensive. Jill in TX > > > > Subject: New to group > To: fibromyalgiacured > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:24 PM > > >  > > > > Hi, my name is Cristie, I'm 39 years old, and have recently been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Although I'm pretty sure I've been suffering from it for the past 15 years or so, it has taken this long, and many negative tests, to get a dr to believe me. I don't deal with much pain other than my shoulders burning and aching. Cutting out caffeine and conning my kids and husband to massage them has helped quite a bit. My main problem is debilitating fatigue. You know the kind, sleep 9 hours and an hour after waking hardly having any energy. Most of my days recently have left me with only enough energy to function, but not even enough to feel emotion. As a home schooling mom of 3, that doesn't work so well. > > So my main question is: how does anyone else cope? Has anything worked for you all out there? Does acupuncture work? I'm desperate to stop surviving and start living again. > > I look forward to hearing from you all and really hope (although I'm afraid to) that you have some answers. The thought of living like this for the next 30-50 years is pretty hard to bear! > > Thanks, > > Cristie > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Joanne, Stress can make any problem worse, and worrying about it can make it worse. Sometimes it is even better not to know the name of something. bee says all diseases they have given a name for have the main cause being stress and poor nutrition. It may be the no starch at all program will be of no use to you at any rate, and may be causing your body extra stress. Bee says it is not really necessary, and other ketogenic diets do not eliminate all starch. And why do the AS forum say sugar is ok? I have had the feeling something is jerking around inside me, but that has not been noticeable lately. You said it has not been as bad for you now. I don't feel as well if I miss my meetings at the Kingdom Hall, and can listen on the phone hookup, but that is not quite the same. We just a new Awake! on loneliness which was really good. I have had some extra expenses. C > > I think I have had information overload regarding this AS and at the same time I > am not earning enough with the market and I have not been able to get to church. > > Lots of other little things going on too > > And then there is also the desire i now have to elimiate starch from my diet. I > cannot do this quick enough and i have been giving myself grief for eating it > yesterday. I kow full well I do not need to eat it, so whats that all about > > I guess it is to do with my routine. Until I read Carol Sinclairs stuff I was > pretty happy with my diet. As you know my carb intake is very low, and it has > been so for at leat seven months without a glitch > > then i read that I must get rid of the starch and realised that of the 30 or so > grams of carb that I do eat in a day about 20g do contain carbs. Because each > item involved i only eat a small amout of this 20g includes many items > > Plus, the other thing that is confusing me now is, if I am getting rid of the > starch, do I replace them with non-starch carbs, and which should i choose? > > I know these questions can be answered easily if I just relax my mind and put a > little thought into it, but I am so overwhelmed > > On the AS site there is a poor bloke, a teenager in fact, who has deeloped major > complications in less than two years > > Anyway, like you say , only a few days ago I was heading i the right > direction, I could see and feel my body healing, but now I am doubting all I > have done, and I am angry. But this is all going on in my mind and it really is > ot the reality of the situation. I am getting well and me getting all hot and > bothered really will not do my illness any good, not my commitment not to binge > > But at the same time, and I know this is kind of a different subject, these > flares I have, or used to have, to do with my sacrioliac joint. I don't know how > much I have shared on here about this but every so often, i the past very often, > nowadays much less, if I did eat carbs I would hve what they are calling on the > AS site a flare. this is where my sacroiliac oint pulsates, the feels like it > explodes, as this happens I eel the pain run up my spine, my nck is severely > affected and then behid my right eye, next all my joints, my bowel would twist > like i was having a baby, and I would get severe IBS, this could go on for days. > All the way through it my mid would be obsessive going o about the abuse and so > on. After about 2 or 3 days it would wai and my sane mind would return but i > would be so tired and my joits would ache, maybe for a week or so. And the > usually i would have another > > I have not had much chance to read about this. the folk o the forum have shared > their experience with this. Fortunately i do not get this nowadays, but, like I > told them, and they agreed, this was caused by the high carb intake I had i the > past > > Apparently this is a definate symptom of AS and particularly so because it > begins in the sacroiliac joint. but as much as they are sayig it is the carb and > the bacteria, and I could not agree more, some of it also has to be > psychological because 9 times out of 10, although it always happened whe i ate > carbs, it always happened when i was stressed too > > anyway, maybe I am beating myself up. Maybe i am seeing too much, I often do do > that, I am so confused. I have been doing so well for so long, but now i am not > certain how much to tell the rhumatologist. I just do not want to deal with any > more of their crap. > > > I am obsessing, trying to work out what is AS and what is fibro, Should i > mention the starch, or should i leave it, bla bla bla, this has been my mind all > day > > I am lucky i have not had a flare, with all this obsessing > > Love Joanne > > > > > ________________________________ x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 My dear joanne, Yes I can see you are getting overloaded with a lot of information and obsesive thoughts going over the questions you pose to yourself. First on the carbs...You have told me in the past, dear, that you are feeling very good. You are also on the way to losing weight. You pointed out the detailed information on the diet journey you are presently walking. You are feeling good, if you feel you need to take off more carbs, do it slowly see if you feel the AS doing better. If not stay in what you feel is best on carb intake. You told me, I think, four days ago you you began to feel fatigued. This is our famous sign that the fibro has snuck indoors again. So you are dealing with that right now maybe without realizing it. When that happens any slight upset becomes intense and even extreme. That is what I am seeing with you now. Be aware of that, my dear dear friend. Yes it seems overwhelming and it seems obsesive. In the same time as you have this fibro flare you are trying to file too many facts for you to handle. Get your soft music, your favorite tea, close your eyes, pray your favorite prayer, ask Our Lord for the Peace of Mind and take away the ants in your brain. Sleep if you have to. Tell your children to zip it for the moment.You do not need their chaos. I will pray for you. I am sorry I could not send this earlier, I had to do what my husband directed me to do. It was on the subject I have asked you to pray for. God Bless you, my dear friend,  Subject: Re: Oil pulling To: fibromyalgiacured Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:46 PM  Like you was cleaing my mouth with coconut oil, and then I stopped. i had a tub in the bathroom cupboard and everybody kept moving it. The folk here cannot be doing with my weird stuff. Well, today the house has gone up. I have had enough of being weighed down by ignorant people. it is bad enough that I go to that hospital and get told all the wrong stuff that sends me down the wrong path and makes me do things that moke my illness worse without the smart arses here adding their ten-peneth They are telling me I am obsessed, so I have told them that the average age of onset for this condition is 24, my daughter is 22 and my son is 23, and I have told them I am not telling them again Instead, I said, the two of them are to elect a day, one day, one full day, and they can get down to that library and they can read up on this themselves I have completely had enough of other peoples bull. Yes, I am depressed, the doctors are right, I am totally depressed, but I am not going to binge on carbs, instead I am going to get some guts and I am going to tell them nutcases that I want the gene test and a MRI and I am also going to say if I am wrong and I don't have this, so what, so what. I would rather have these stupid tests and be wrong that not have them ad sit here day in day out telling everybody, 'It was carbohydrate that done my back in, it was, it was, I know it was' Folk tell me I am mental and you know what they are right Anybody willing to put up with all this crap that I have put up with would have to be mental thank God I have you lot, because you know what if I did not, only god knows where i would be now Anyway the good news is, as crazy as I am today I still have not binged on that rubbish I have my pot of coconut oil and up the stairs we go My sincere love and regards to you cindy, and I am so sorry I did not listen to you sooner Love Joanne ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 18:09:27 Subject: Oil pulling  Hi, If in Bee's group, you got the email on oil pulling. The same guy is on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXmV3zI_dTI It had been mentioned before, so I tried it, and got my teeth some whiter, but got out of the habit. I think I will try it again, and of course use coconut oil to do it. If concerned that bacteria is causing your spondylitis, maybe it would be good to try it along with taking coconut oil. c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Yes, Joanne, I am listening....God is listening too. Remember He carries you during these difficult times though you feel him so far away. Ants(antagonizing negative thoughts) are raiding your brain. These is the norm in fibro, and they stay in the course of the flare up. Remember the more we swim in the ants the less we relax the body. Of course this is hard. But remember the website that comes along once in a while in our group promoting health in the music? I will try to find it for you. During these times, I relax with teas and music and prayer. I especially ask for prayer from my prayerful friends.I know you may have heard this before but there is a rhyme and reason to all this. It helps when you know there are people who support you outside the family unit especially with prayer. Sorry we lost the chat connection earlier. Maybe we can do it again later. I need to get some errands done. I hope I have been of some help. Take care. There are a lot of people here who love you. God Bless, I am praying for you.  Subject: Re: Oil pulling To: fibromyalgiacured Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:46 PM  Like you was cleaing my mouth with coconut oil, and then I stopped. i had a tub in the bathroom cupboard and everybody kept moving it. The folk here cannot be doing with my weird stuff. Well, today the house has gone up. I have had enough of being weighed down by ignorant people. it is bad enough that I go to that hospital and get told all the wrong stuff that sends me down the wrong path and makes me do things that moke my illness worse without the smart arses here adding their ten-peneth They are telling me I am obsessed, so I have told them that the average age of onset for this condition is 24, my daughter is 22 and my son is 23, and I have told them I am not telling them again Instead, I said, the two of them are to elect a day, one day, one full day, and they can get down to that library and they can read up on this themselves I have completely had enough of other peoples bull. Yes, I am depressed, the doctors are right, I am totally depressed, but I am not going to binge on carbs, instead I am going to get some guts and I am going to tell them nutcases that I want the gene test and a MRI and I am also going to say if I am wrong and I don't have this, so what, so what. I would rather have these stupid tests and be wrong that not have them ad sit here day in day out telling everybody, 'It was carbohydrate that done my back in, it was, it was, I know it was' Folk tell me I am mental and you know what they are right Anybody willing to put up with all this crap that I have put up with would have to be mental thank God I have you lot, because you know what if I did not, only god knows where i would be now Anyway the good news is, as crazy as I am today I still have not binged on that rubbish I have my pot of coconut oil and up the stairs we go My sincere love and regards to you cindy, and I am so sorry I did not listen to you sooner Love Joanne ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 18:09:27 Subject: Oil pulling  Hi, If in Bee's group, you got the email on oil pulling. The same guy is on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXmV3zI_dTI It had been mentioned before, so I tried it, and got my teeth some whiter, but got out of the habit. I think I will try it again, and of course use coconut oil to do it. If concerned that bacteria is causing your spondylitis, maybe it would be good to try it along with taking coconut oil. c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 The mental and emotional pain that comes from fearful thinking and assuming that things will be worse in the future is very stressful for anyone of us. The author of fear is the adversary of humanity. Just because we are humans and have a body so we can experience life in it makes us vulnerable to affliction from that source. The answer for this problem - circular thinking, obsessing, fear of any form is to go to the Source of all goodness, truth, healing and love and ask for help. There may be a struggle for awhile, but that's how it goes until we are off the planet. When I give over to Heavenly Father the care of all aspects of my life - and I know He can take care of it - and will even give me good orderly direction (GOD - lol) when I ask for it and am receptive to it and will commit to carrying it out - then what ever others think or even what I think about it doesn't matter. Not being believed that we have pain, or that our research give us answers is stressful. So why do we talk to those people who are going to make it harder to do what we need to do anyway? They don't live inside our body and so they don't believe us - I have compassion for people who have cancer, but I don't feel their pain - it's for their experience and learning. The belief that we cause our diseases - if it is true - applies to all disorders - cardiac, cancers, arthritis, any organic disorders, diabetes, etc. So believing that I am " bad " for being like this is meaningless - it applies to everyone, so I'm not " badder " or lesser than anyone else. I need time to get by myself occasionally or sometimes frequently daily. I can breath deeply - that begins to allow my body and mind to relax some - which reduces the stress levels. That's something I can decide to do at any moment. One day at a time - and I can begin my day over at any time I want to do it, as many times as I want to do it. Acceptance also helps me - can I actually accept that I'm the one with this situation - not my kids, or friends etc, just me - so it's out of there level of experience. Can I accept that I did not cause this - but it is in my life for a purpose - can I choose to discover the purpose - even the gifts that this disorder gives me. I was talking with a lady here where I live who also has FM ect. We were discussing the gifts that this disorder gives us. What have others in this group found to be the payoffs - because there are character building payoffs of having this. Jill in TX > > > Subject: Re: Oil pulling > To: fibromyalgiacured > Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:46 PM > >  > > > > Like you was cleaing my mouth with coconut oil, and then I stopped. i had a tub > in the bathroom cupboard and everybody kept moving it. The folk here cannot be > doing with my weird stuff. Well, today the house has gone up. I have had enough > of being weighed down by ignorant people. it is bad enough that I go to that > hospital and get told all the wrong stuff that sends me down the wrong path and > makes me do things that moke my illness worse without the smart arses here > adding their ten-peneth > > They are telling me I am obsessed, so I have told them that the average age of > onset for this condition is 24, my daughter is 22 and my son is 23, and I have > told them I am not telling them again > > Instead, I said, the two of them are to elect a day, one day, one full day, and > they can get down to that library and they can read up on this themselves > > I have completely had enough of other peoples bull. > > Yes, I am depressed, the doctors are right, I am totally depressed, but I am not > > > going to binge on carbs, instead I am going to get some guts and I am going to > tell them nutcases that I want the gene test and a MRI and I am also going to > say if I am wrong and I don't have this, so what, so what. > > I would rather have these stupid tests and be wrong that not have them ad sit > here day in day out telling everybody, 'It was carbohydrate that done my back > in, it was, it was, I know it was' > > Folk tell me I am mental and you know what they are right > > Anybody willing to put up with all this crap that I have put up with would have > to be mental > > thank God I have you lot, because you know what if I did not, only god knows > where i would be now > > Anyway the good news is, as crazy as I am today I still have not binged on that > rubbish > > I have my pot of coconut oil and up the stairs we go > > My sincere love and regards to you cindy, and I am so sorry I did not listen to > you sooner > > Love Joanne > > ________________________________ > > To: fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 18:09:27 > Subject: Oil pulling > >  > Hi, > If in Bee's group, you got the email on oil pulling. The same guy is on youtube > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXmV3zI_dTI > It had been mentioned before, so I tried it, and got my teeth some whiter, but > got out of the habit. I think I will try it again, and of course use coconut oil > > > to do it. If concerned that bacteria is causing your spondylitis, maybe it would > > > be good to try it along with taking coconut oil. > > c > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Wow, Joanne, Thank you again for another great tip. I will remember that. I have low blood pressure and used carry a small package of salt in case it got too low. Since today is a top 104 degrees, I will be extra alert on plenty of water, to have the necessary salt intake, and minus one shake a week. Thank you.  Subject: Re: For To: fibromyalgiacured Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 3:38 PM  Hi I just want everybody here, especially the new folk, to realise, all this is an ongoing process, and that what might be fine at the beginning might not be so fine as time goes by. And that daily reading regarding low carb and ketogenic diets is important, mainly because the rules for low carb are very different than what corporate businesses tend to tell us When i was reading your post I remembered something else that is important. when a person cuts back on eating processed food they often end up not eating enough salt. I know this must sound crazy but both Bee and dr Atkins refers to this ow it is not that we are not eating enough sodium per sa, but more that now we are eating so well, it would not harm to add some salt, but it needs to be the right kid of salt. sea salt and rock salt are very good because each contain about 60 different mineral, but the best salt of all is the Hymalayan salt. I cannot not afford the later so i use sea salt Anyway, we can either drink it or add it to food, but especially if you feel your diet may be lacking in minerals this is something to look at Love Joanne ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Tue, 24 August, 2010 21:01:39 Subject: Thank you  Hello, Joanne, Thank you for the important information concerning the supplement shakes. I will stay off them at least once a week. Reason why I take them in the morning, it is very difficult for me to down breakfast. I have found these easier to take, I usually feel ill after most breakfasts. I guess can't take solids in the morning. Since I mix the Fatigue to Fantastic in the mix I feel really great all throught the morning. But once the four hours are up, that is when I really lay on the food...good food. Hope you are doing well, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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