Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Ah, Salli. I can relate. Last month I spent my thanksgiving up north at the ILs, sick with something that's not what I'm sick with now, surrounded by the athletic family from hell, and a SIL that kept calling " Mommy " ... Of course, I got the ultimate revenge when Mommy tried to pull off a fondue that she kept bragging about...and f*d up melting the chocolate, causing it separate into a grainy, oily glop...even *I* can melt chocolate, and took great pains to tell her so... Hoping this day sends you an ultimate something... Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 > Did dinner turn out well? I take it Louser didn't come over? > Lou did not ask to see his children today. I imagine he had other fish to fry. The kids were not impressed by his lack of interest. Well, they have differing views: was hurt, Enrique is always happy to avoid his father, and the three little ones either genuinely didn't have or didn't say they had any opinion. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Sorry you had such a rotten day!! Tamara, mom to Ebony-4 yrs, ASD & -7 months > >Reply-To: parenting_autism >To: <parenting_autism > >Subject: Yucky Thanksgiving >Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:28:23 -0500 > >Horrible. Everyone fighting even more than last year. I had half decided >it was the worst ever when I recalled the two Thanksgivings that Lou ruined >by getting mad and sulking in his office when my parents were visiting. It >had never occurred to me that someone might behave that way on an important >holiday. > >Now my kids are behaving that way and I still can't believe it. > > spent the whole day telling me how much he hated Enrique and >asking me what I was going to do about him. I really don't know; I mean, >it's not like I hadn't noticed there was a problem. What does he have in >mind, shooting him? > >Putter spent the whole day demanding waffles and apples. He consumed so >many apples that I am surprised he hasn't sprouted leaves. > >Robbie was just plain cross. > >Sophie was chattery which was fine, I guess, but it was hard to hear her >over everyone else's screaming and then she got mad when I couldn't hear. > >Enrique was really pretty good; he helped me a bit in the kitchen after > refused to. said that Enrique never helped so why >should he? Not true, actually; Enrique will help unless you totally ask at >the wrong time. He is incompentent of course... > >My biggest difficulty was that Robbie fell asleep on my shoulder shortly >before dinner got ready. I could wait a bit as the turkey is so hot when >it comes out that it is hard to cut anyway. But I kept having to do them >and it is hard to decide if it is harder to do things with a screaming baby >grabbing your legs and begging to be picked up or with a sleeping baby over >your shoulder. I did the latter for a while and then I did the former. >Robbie screamed through most of dinner. It was not a pretty sight. > >Then Enrique had to set his place at the table with paper plates and paper >cups. It really looked good mixed with my best china (which isn't all that >great but at least it is china). Have I ever mentioned that OCD sucks? > >We have a small Thanksgiving service that involves candles (we couldn't >find the matches for a long time; we had to hide them from Putter last >year) and Putter had a fit as he feels that all candles must be blown out >instantly so that they can be lit again. We used to eat by candlelight and >now we can't because of Putter. > >Anyway as part of our Thanksgiving service we each have to say what we are >thankful for. I said " I guess maybe I might be thankful for my children >although given how obnoxious you have all been today I am no longer sure >that is true, " which made them laugh as they must have thought I was not >serious. Ha! > >Enrique was grateful for the cats. We figured that Putter was grateful >that he wasn't NT and Robbie was grateful for nursey-milk. > >My bottle of wine had a bad cork in it that fell apart and left me sipping >luscious bits of cork. When the cork finally did come out, it spattered me >with lovely decorative droplets of wine. > >So it went. And so I go: whine, whine, whine. Oh, well, at least I don't >have bits of cork floating in my whine the way I did with my wine. > >Salli > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 > Lou did not ask to see his children today. I imagine he had other fish to > fry. The kids were not impressed by his lack of interest. Well, they have > differing views: was hurt, Enrique is always happy to avoid his > father, and the three little ones either genuinely didn't have or didn't say > they had any opinion. You know.... it's strange how Lou shows up for days that hardly matter, IEP's that he is not needed at, and especially at times when nobody wants to see him - - - yet on the one day of the year when family SHOULD matter to him - - - he decides to go and do something else when everything else to do is closed. I don't blame for being hurt. That was not a fatherly gesture on Lou's part, and I'm sure Lou didn't stay away to appease Enrique. Sophie doesn't have an opinion on this? And I dont doubt that Putter and Robbie could care less. Shucks - who needs Lou? Those kids have the best mommy in the world. Screw Lou. <not literally, Salli... not literally....> Grace > > Salli > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 > Lou did not ask to see his children today. I imagine he had other fish to > fry. The kids were not impressed by his lack of interest. Well, they have > differing views: was hurt, Enrique is always happy to avoid his > father, and the three little ones either genuinely didn't have or didn't say > they had any opinion. You know.... it's strange how Lou shows up for days that hardly matter, IEP's that he is not needed at, and especially at times when nobody wants to see him - - - yet on the one day of the year when family SHOULD matter to him - - - he decides to go and do something else when everything else to do is closed. I don't blame for being hurt. That was not a fatherly gesture on Lou's part, and I'm sure Lou didn't stay away to appease Enrique. Sophie doesn't have an opinion on this? And I dont doubt that Putter and Robbie could care less. Shucks - who needs Lou? Those kids have the best mommy in the world. Screw Lou. <not literally, Salli... not literally....> Grace > > Salli > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Sorry Salli!! That sounds sooo stressful! We went to my mom's for thanksgiving. Although it would have mad more sense to come to my house. Since those in attendance included:My parents, my dh, kids, Dh's parents, sister and her family. The were NO other members of my family there. it was funny. But she has just recently added on to her house and wanted to use it, we all went there. And it was nice. s sister actually liked coming out there, and they have 80 acres of land so the kids took hikes through the woods. When asked what he was thankful for, all mitchel would say was " vacation " . I asked him what I should be thankful for and he said " ME. " And I am... Kerri Yucky Thanksgiving Horrible. Everyone fighting even more than last year. I had half decided it was the worst ever when I recalled the two Thanksgivings that Lou ruined by getting mad and sulking in his office when my parents were visiting. It had never occurred to me that someone might behave that way on an important holiday. Now my kids are behaving that way and I still can't believe it. spent the whole day telling me how much he hated Enrique and asking me what I was going to do about him. I really don't know; I mean, it's not like I hadn't noticed there was a problem. What does he have in mind, shooting him? Putter spent the whole day demanding waffles and apples. He consumed so many apples that I am surprised he hasn't sprouted leaves. Robbie was just plain cross. Sophie was chattery which was fine, I guess, but it was hard to hear her over everyone else's screaming and then she got mad when I couldn't hear. Enrique was really pretty good; he helped me a bit in the kitchen after refused to. said that Enrique never helped so why should he? Not true, actually; Enrique will help unless you totally ask at the wrong time. He is incompentent of course... My biggest difficulty was that Robbie fell asleep on my shoulder shortly before dinner got ready. I could wait a bit as the turkey is so hot when it comes out that it is hard to cut anyway. But I kept having to do them and it is hard to decide if it is harder to do things with a screaming baby grabbing your legs and begging to be picked up or with a sleeping baby over your shoulder. I did the latter for a while and then I did the former. Robbie screamed through most of dinner. It was not a pretty sight. Then Enrique had to set his place at the table with paper plates and paper cups. It really looked good mixed with my best china (which isn't all that great but at least it is china). Have I ever mentioned that OCD sucks? We have a small Thanksgiving service that involves candles (we couldn't find the matches for a long time; we had to hide them from Putter last year) and Putter had a fit as he feels that all candles must be blown out instantly so that they can be lit again. We used to eat by candlelight and now we can't because of Putter. Anyway as part of our Thanksgiving service we each have to say what we are thankful for. I said " I guess maybe I might be thankful for my children although given how obnoxious you have all been today I am no longer sure that is true, " which made them laugh as they must have thought I was not serious. Ha! Enrique was grateful for the cats. We figured that Putter was grateful that he wasn't NT and Robbie was grateful for nursey-milk. My bottle of wine had a bad cork in it that fell apart and left me sipping luscious bits of cork. When the cork finally did come out, it spattered me with lovely decorative droplets of wine. So it went. And so I go: whine, whine, whine. Oh, well, at least I don't have bits of cork floating in my whine the way I did with my wine. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Sorry Salli!! That sounds sooo stressful! We went to my mom's for thanksgiving. Although it would have mad more sense to come to my house. Since those in attendance included:My parents, my dh, kids, Dh's parents, sister and her family. The were NO other members of my family there. it was funny. But she has just recently added on to her house and wanted to use it, we all went there. And it was nice. s sister actually liked coming out there, and they have 80 acres of land so the kids took hikes through the woods. When asked what he was thankful for, all mitchel would say was " vacation " . I asked him what I should be thankful for and he said " ME. " And I am... Kerri Yucky Thanksgiving Horrible. Everyone fighting even more than last year. I had half decided it was the worst ever when I recalled the two Thanksgivings that Lou ruined by getting mad and sulking in his office when my parents were visiting. It had never occurred to me that someone might behave that way on an important holiday. Now my kids are behaving that way and I still can't believe it. spent the whole day telling me how much he hated Enrique and asking me what I was going to do about him. I really don't know; I mean, it's not like I hadn't noticed there was a problem. What does he have in mind, shooting him? Putter spent the whole day demanding waffles and apples. He consumed so many apples that I am surprised he hasn't sprouted leaves. Robbie was just plain cross. Sophie was chattery which was fine, I guess, but it was hard to hear her over everyone else's screaming and then she got mad when I couldn't hear. Enrique was really pretty good; he helped me a bit in the kitchen after refused to. said that Enrique never helped so why should he? Not true, actually; Enrique will help unless you totally ask at the wrong time. He is incompentent of course... My biggest difficulty was that Robbie fell asleep on my shoulder shortly before dinner got ready. I could wait a bit as the turkey is so hot when it comes out that it is hard to cut anyway. But I kept having to do them and it is hard to decide if it is harder to do things with a screaming baby grabbing your legs and begging to be picked up or with a sleeping baby over your shoulder. I did the latter for a while and then I did the former. Robbie screamed through most of dinner. It was not a pretty sight. Then Enrique had to set his place at the table with paper plates and paper cups. It really looked good mixed with my best china (which isn't all that great but at least it is china). Have I ever mentioned that OCD sucks? We have a small Thanksgiving service that involves candles (we couldn't find the matches for a long time; we had to hide them from Putter last year) and Putter had a fit as he feels that all candles must be blown out instantly so that they can be lit again. We used to eat by candlelight and now we can't because of Putter. Anyway as part of our Thanksgiving service we each have to say what we are thankful for. I said " I guess maybe I might be thankful for my children although given how obnoxious you have all been today I am no longer sure that is true, " which made them laugh as they must have thought I was not serious. Ha! Enrique was grateful for the cats. We figured that Putter was grateful that he wasn't NT and Robbie was grateful for nursey-milk. My bottle of wine had a bad cork in it that fell apart and left me sipping luscious bits of cork. When the cork finally did come out, it spattered me with lovely decorative droplets of wine. So it went. And so I go: whine, whine, whine. Oh, well, at least I don't have bits of cork floating in my whine the way I did with my wine. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2001 Report Share Posted November 23, 2001 > You know.... it's strange how Lou shows up for days that hardly matter, > IEP's that he is not needed at, and especially at times when nobody wants to > see him - - - yet on the one day of the year when family SHOULD matter to > him - - - he decides to go and do something else when everything else to do > is closed. Grace: I have been thinking about this and I believe it is because Lou is concerned with his rights. He has a RIGHT to be present at an IEP so naturally he wants to. Thanksgiving is merely a time when you would expect that he would want to see his children. No rights are involved. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2001 Report Share Posted November 23, 2001 > You know.... it's strange how Lou shows up for days that hardly matter, > IEP's that he is not needed at, and especially at times when nobody wants to > see him - - - yet on the one day of the year when family SHOULD matter to > him - - - he decides to go and do something else when everything else to do > is closed. Grace: I have been thinking about this and I believe it is because Lou is concerned with his rights. He has a RIGHT to be present at an IEP so naturally he wants to. Thanksgiving is merely a time when you would expect that he would want to see his children. No rights are involved. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2001 Report Share Posted November 23, 2001 So Salli - (LOL, I type Alli first) Do you ever just " lose it " ??? or have you already " lost it " ? They'd have to have already taken me to the crazy house by now. Penny - who's had some pretty good wine herself tonite. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 Salli, Despite the kids being kids and acting like kids (my mom loves to say " they are only children, how do you expect them to act " ?) it sounds like you had some nice moments and were able to continue with your family traditions, even if some of them were Lou's ideas! ===== Ginger, wife to Jeff 14 ADD 9 Autistic 7 NT __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 --- Gillam wrote: <BR> You deserve a medal! HOw do you do it is all I want to know and still keep <BR> a sense of humor about you??<BR> <BR> Horrible. Everyone fighting even more than last year. Putter had a fit as he feels that all candles must be blown out instantly so that they can be lit again. & nbsp; We used to eat by candlelight. <BR> You deserve a medal AND two weeks in the Bahamas. Know what you mean about the candles. is obsessed with them too, so I had to give them up. Take care, hon, Tuna ===== _______________________________________________________ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 > You deserve a medal AND two weeks in the Bahamas. > Know what you mean about the candles. is > obsessed with them too, so I had to give them up. > Yeah, the advent wreath is gonna be fun but it is NOT negotiable. Uh, is the Bahamas with or without family? Enrique would not go.... Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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