RE: working out

August 12, 2010

I will take a look at the verse you are talking about, but I am pretty sure

that the fat was offered to God in the sacrifices. When Jesus offered

himself on the cross, he became the final sacrifrice--no more animal

sacrifices were required after that. Also, the vision that had in the

book of Acts about all the animals was an indication that the old dietary

laws were no longer required. I am just rattling this off from memory, so I

will look into it further and get back with you.

nne

>

> Good Morning Everyone,

>

> So I just wanted to share with you all that I have been trying to work out

> every day. Like do exercises. My youngest Son has been helping me

> stay motivated about it, but oh my gosh is it ever whooping my butt. I have

> been really trying to eat the healthy diet with the meat and only a little

> carbs and up on my fats, but last night I made a homemade all vegetable

> soup from scratch. Not sure if thats allowed in our diet or not, but a part

> of me tells me that I shouldnt eat meat at every single meal. I had two

> boiled eggs for breakfast yesterday. Also something is bothering me and I

> wanted

> to share with everyone. I have been reading the bible again lately and I

> read in I think it was either Exodus or Leviticus where God says that no one

> should

> eat fat and that all the fat only belonged to God and that this law shall

> always be. Its in the Old Testament. So I wouldnt mind hearing everyones

> views

> on that one. Im pretty sure that he was talking about animal fat. So I

> guess the Coconut oil should still be ok. Speaking of Coconut oil, Im quite

> annoyed, because

> for awhile I was taking my coconut oil and putting it in capsules to be

> able to take it, because I can not use it by the spoon, it makes me gag like

> no other.

> But I ran out of capsules, so I went on to Iherb and found some organic

> coconut oil in gel form pills. I thought excellent, and Iherb has always

> been so

> fast at shipping stuff out. But these coconut oil pills are taking forever

> and a day to get here and its annoying me.

> Anyways.... abit of good news, since the working out with my Son, and

> cutting the sugar out of my diet completely I have lost seven pounds in

> weight. I know its

> not much to brag about, but its a start! I have been drinking alot of

> water, as well as a small glass of juiced watermellon a day. And I have been

> eating Canteloupe

> again lately which seems to help make my body work better. I have no idea

> what is in the Canteloupe that seems to help me, but my body loves the stuff

> for

> some reason. It just makes me feel better for some reason.??

>

> I hope everyone has a beautiful day today..

> Much Love,

>

> Carol

>

August 12, 2010

Hi carol,

You are making good progress. I pasted some info from " Insight on the

scriptures, " regarding fat, and it seemed only to apply to the nation of

Israel.

FAT

The English word " fat " is used to translate various Hebrew words that describe

not only the substance called fat but also that which is full-fleshed and plump.

These terms may also be used in a figurative sense to express that which is rich

or fertile (just as in the English expression " fat of the land " ) or to convey

the idea of insensibility or dullness of mind and heart.

Che & #8242;lev is ordinarily used to refer to the substance " fat, " either of

animals (Le 3:3) or of men (Jg 3:22). The " suet, " or hard fat about the kidneys

or loins, in the burnt offerings is also expressed by another word,

pe & #8242;dher. (Le 1:8, 12; 8:20) Che & #8242;lev first appears at Genesis 4:4 in

connection with Abel's sacrifice to Jehovah of " fatty pieces " from the

firstlings of his flock. Most references to che & #8242;lev thereafter simply

relate to sacrificing. Che & #8242;lev is also used metaphorically for the best or

richest part of anything. For instance, at Genesis 45:18, Pharaoh tells ph

that his family is welcome to eat " the fat part of the land. " Thus, too, Numbers

18:12 reads: " All the best [che & #8242;lev] of the oil and all the best

[che & #8242;lev] of the new wine and the grain . . . I have given them to

you. " —See Ps 81:16; 147:14.

The Law Regarding Fat. In the third chapter of Leviticus, Jehovah gave the

Israelites instructions concerning the use of fat in communion sacrifices. When

offering cattle or goats, they were to make the fat around the loins and

intestines and that over the kidneys, as well as the fatty appendage upon the

liver, smoke upon the altar. In the case of sheep, the entire fatty tail

likewise was to be offered. (The sheep of Syria, Palestine, Arabia, and Egypt

have fat tails, often weighing 5 kg [11 lbs] or more.) The Law specifically

said, " All the fat belongs to Jehovah . . . You must not eat any fat or any

blood at all. " —Le 3:3-17.

Fat would burn fiercely and would be quite thoroughly consumed upon the altar.

Any fat offered on the altar was not to be left over until the next morning; it

was likely to corrupt and become offensive, something very unseemly for any part

of the sacred offerings.—Ex 23:18.

Not incumbent on Christians. After the Flood, when permission was given to Noah

and his family to add flesh to their diet, nothing was stated regarding fat. (Ge

9:3, 4) However, the eating of blood was prohibited. This was more than 850

years before the Law covenant, with its prohibitions against the eating of both

blood and fat, was made with Israel. In the first century C.E. the governing

body of the Christian congregation confirmed the prohibition against blood as

remaining in force for Christians. (Ac 15:20, 28, 29) As in the case with Noah

and his family, however, nothing was stated concerning the eating of fat by

Christians. Thus, the law against eating fat was given only to the nation of

Israel.

Reason for the law. Under the Law covenant, both the blood and fat were looked

upon as exclusively Jehovah's. The blood contains the life, which only Jehovah

can give; therefore it belongs to him. (Le 17:11, 14) The fat was viewed as the

richest part of the flesh of the animal. The offering of the fat of the animal

would evidently be in recognition of the fact that the best parts belong to

Jehovah, who provides abundantly, and it would demonstrate the desire of the

worshiper to offer the best to God. Because it was symbolic of the Israelites'

devotion of their best to Jehovah, it was said to smoke upon the altar as " food "

and for " a restful odor " to him. (Le 3:11, 16) To eat fat, therefore, was an

illegal appropriation of what was sanctified to God, an invasion of the rights

of Jehovah. Eating fat would incur the death penalty. Unlike blood, however, fat

could be used for other purposes, at least in the case of an animal that died of

itself or was killed by another beast.—Le 7:23-25.

Extent of the law's application. Because of this latter text, many commentators

have sought to limit the prohibition of Leviticus 3:17 only to the fat of those

kinds of animals that were acceptable for offering in sacrifice, such as bulls,

sheep, and goats. Rabbinic Jewish teaching is divided on this subject. However,

the injunction on fat at Leviticus 3:17 is linked with the one regarding the

eating of blood, a law that clearly included the blood of all animals. (Compare

Le 17:13; De 12:15, 16.) It seems more consistent, therefore, that the law on

fat should also have embraced the fat of all animals, including those killed for

the Israelites' common use.

The view that the prohibition applied to all fat is not controverted by the text

at Deuteronomy 32:14, which speaks of Jehovah as giving Israel " fat of rams " to

eat. This is a figurative expression referring to the best of the flock, or as

The Jerusalem Bible renders the phrase, " rich food of the pastures. " (See also

Da ftn and Kx.) This poetic sense is indicated by later portions of the same

verse referring to " the kidney fat of wheat " and " the blood of the grape. " So,

too, with Nehemiah 8:10, where the people are commanded, " Go, eat the fatty

things, " we are not to conclude that they literally consumed whole fat. " Fatty

things " refers to rich portions, things not skinny or dry, but luscious,

including tasty items prepared with vegetable oils. Thus, Knox' translation here

reads " regale yourselves with rich meat, " while Moffatt's translation says " eat

the dainty pieces. "

The Mosaic Law restriction did not prevent the feeding or fattening of sheep or

cattle for the table. We read of the " fattened young bull " slaughtered for the

prodigal son. (Lu 15:23) 's food included " fattened cuckoos " and cattle.

(1Ki 4:23) The Hebrew & #701;e & #8231;ghel-mar & #8231;beq & #8242;, translated

" fattened calf, " occurs at 1 28:24; me & #8242;ach and meri & #700; & #8242;

refer to a `well-fed animal' or a `fatling.' (Isa 5:17; Eze 39:18) However, this

does not mean that this `fattening' was for the purpose of producing suet or

layers of fat; rather, the sense again is that the animals became full-fleshed

( " beefy " ), not skinny.—Compare Ge 41:18, 19.

Other Hebrew Terms. Among the Hebrew terms used to describe anything in a " fat "

condition are those derived from the root verb sha & #8231;men & #8242;. While

meaning " grow fat " (De 32:15; Jer 5:28), it also conveys the thought of being

" robust. " Sha & #8231;men & #8242; appears at Isaiah 6:10, where the King

Version reads " make the heart of this people fat, " that is, unresponsive and

dull, as if their hearts were enveloped in fat. Judges 3:29 describes certain

Moabites as " every one robust [sha & #8231;men & #8242;, literally, " fat " ] and every

one a valiant man. " The related she & #8242;men is usually translated " oil. "

`Thriving' may be the thought behind the verb da & #8231;shen & #8242;, also used

literally to mean " grow fat. " If that is the case, da & #8231;shen & #8242; (and the

related de & #8242;shen) would imply prosperity, fertility, or abundance. Jehovah

told Israel that he would bring them to a land " which flows with milk and honey,

and they will certainly eat and be satisfied and grow fat

[wedha & #8231;shen & #8242;]. " (De 31:20) We are told that those who are generous,

diligent, and reliant on Jehovah " will be made fat, " that is, prosper

abundantly. (Pr 11:25; 13:4; 28:25) At Proverbs 15:30 good news is said to `make

the bones fat,' or fill them with marrow—in other words, the whole body is

invigorated. The noun de & #8242;shen also reflects this idea of affluence, as at

Psalm 36:8, where the sons of men are said to " drink their fill of the fatness

[mid & #8231;de & #8242;shen; " abundance, " RS] " of God's house.—Compare Jer 31:14.

The noun de & #8242;shen is also rendered " ashes " by many translators, as when

referring to the wastes from the tabernacle's altar of sacrifice. (Le 1:16;

4:12; 6:10, 11, KJ, JB, RS) To other scholars, however, " ashes " does not fully

reflect the original-language root. They, therefore, prefer such terms as

" fat-ashes " (Ro), or " fatty ashes " (NW), reasoning that the term indicates that

the hot fat from the sacrifices soaked the burnt firewood below.

The idea of being well fed and healthy is expressed by the word

ba & #8231;ri & #700; & #8242;. It is translated " plump " (Eze 34:3, 20) and

" healthful " (Hab 1:16), though it may also be rendered as " fat " in describing

men, cattle, and grain.—Ge 41:2, 7; Jg 3:17.

c.

>

> Good Morning Everyone,

>

> So I just wanted to share with you all that I have been trying to work out

every day. Like do exercises. My youngest Son has been helping me

> stay motivated about it, but oh my gosh is it ever whooping my butt. I have

been really trying to eat the healthy diet with the meat and only a little

> carbs and up on my fats, but last night I made a homemade all vegetable soup

from scratch. Not sure if thats allowed in our diet or not, but a part

> of me tells me that I shouldnt eat meat at every single meal. I had two boiled

eggs for breakfast yesterday. Also something is bothering me and I wanted

> to share with everyone. I have been reading the bible again lately and I read

in I think it was either Exodus or Leviticus where God says that no one should

> eat fat and that all the fat only belonged to God and that this law shall

always be. Its in the Old Testament. So I wouldnt mind hearing everyones views

> on that one. Im pretty sure that he was talking about animal fat. So I guess

the Coconut oil should still be ok. Speaking of Coconut oil, Im quite annoyed,

because

> for awhile I was taking my coconut oil and putting it in capsules to be able

to take it, because I can not use it by the spoon, it makes me gag like no

other.

> But I ran out of capsules, so I went on to Iherb and found some organic

coconut oil in gel form pills. I thought excellent, and Iherb has always been so

> fast at shipping stuff out. But these coconut oil pills are taking forever and

a day to get here and its annoying me.

> Anyways.... abit of good news, since the working out with my Son, and cutting

the sugar out of my diet completely I have lost seven pounds in weight. I know

its

> not much to brag about, but its a start! I have been drinking alot of water,

as well as a small glass of juiced watermellon a day. And I have been eating

Canteloupe

> again lately which seems to help make my body work better. I have no idea what

is in the Canteloupe that seems to help me, but my body loves the stuff for

> some reason. It just makes me feel better for some reason.??

>

> I hope everyone has a beautiful day today..

> Much Love,

>

> Carol

>

August 12, 2010

Good Morning, Carol....

Soooo you are reading the Bible too, ay? I also have been doing this as a daily

project before going back to teach religion class this coming semester.

Interesting you mentioned that. As I read through the pages, it renews my

passion and Love of my Faith.

I make soups too, I put chicken broth and throw inÂ a raw small chicken

strip(cubed) to cook with the veggies. Good stuff.

I love coconut so it does not bother me at all. Hope your capsules arrive soon.

I like the idea of juicing your watermelon. Canteloupe has alot of good

nutrients to make the body feel good. Just a note, Canteloupe: something you

can't do if you are married, get it?

Have a great day.

Â

Subject: working out

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:31 AM

Â

Good Morning Everyone,

So I just wanted to share with you all that I have been trying to work out every

day. Like do exercises. My youngest Son has been helping me

stay motivated about it, but oh my gosh is it ever whooping my butt. I have been

really trying to eat the healthy diet with the meat and only a little

carbs and up on my fats, but last night I made a homemade all vegetable soup

from scratch. Not sure if thats allowed in our diet or not, but a part

of me tells me that I shouldnt eat meat at every single meal. I had two boiled

eggs for breakfast yesterday. Also something is bothering me and I wanted

to share with everyone. I have been reading the bible again lately and I read in

I think it was either Exodus or Leviticus where God says that no one should

eat fat and that all the fat only belonged to God and that this law shall always

be. Its in the Old Testament. So I wouldnt mind hearing everyones views

on that one. Im pretty sure that he was talking about animal fat. So I guess the

Coconut oil should still be ok. Speaking of Coconut oil, Im quite annoyed,

because

for awhile I was taking my coconut oil and putting it in capsules to be able to

take it, because I can not use it by the spoon, it makes me gag like no other.

But I ran out of capsules, so I went on to Iherb and found some organic coconut

oil in gel form pills. I thought excellent, and Iherb has always been so

fast at shipping stuff out. But these coconut oil pills are taking forever and a

day to get here and its annoying me.

Anyways.... abit of good news, since the working out with my Son, and cutting

the sugar out of my diet completely I have lost seven pounds in weight. I know

its

not much to brag about, but its a start! I have been drinking alot of water, as

well as a small glass of juiced watermellon a day. And I have been eating

Canteloupe

again lately which seems to help make my body work better. I have no idea what

is in the Canteloupe that seems to help me, but my body loves the stuff for

some reason. It just makes me feel better for some reason.??

I hope everyone has a beautiful day today..

Much Love,

Carol

August 12, 2010

cantaloupe is also a fairly low carb fruit as is different berries.

nne

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, maria betancourt <

studiosanmiguel@...> wrote:

>

> Good Morning, Carol....

> Soooo you are reading the Bible too, ay? I also have been doing this as a

> daily project before going back to teach religion class this coming

> semester. Interesting you mentioned that. As I read through the pages, it

> renews my passion and Love of my Faith.

> I make soups too, I put chicken broth and throw in a raw small chicken

> strip(cubed) to cook with the veggies. Good stuff.

> I love coconut so it does not bother me at all. Hope your capsules arrive

> soon. I like the idea of juicing your watermelon. Canteloupe has alot of

> good nutrients to make the body feel good. Just a note, Canteloupe:

> something you can't do if you are married, get it?

> Have a great day.

>

> From: Carol Gowin <CarolGowin@... <CarolGowin%40hotmail.com>>

> Subject: working out

> To: fibromyalgiacured <fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:31 AM