Re: Re: Bare machine ()

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Jim, I was waiting for you to comment! ;-)I too am like you leader/follower.  I think this happens because at first we spent money hand over fist trying to get well.  Then we either run out of money, or have simply tried so many things that the skeptic in us emerges.

, I am so happy you are on our group and we all are anxious to hear of your progress.  I hope you will remain and keep us informed.  One thing that crossed my skeptic mind was, did you notice a big difference once you got your new machine or has it just been gradual after coiling and MMS for so long?  Part of me just wonders since you've been treating for so long that you should have reached this place with just what you were doing.   The other part of me wonders, if you are getting better faster (once you got your rife/bare) are these type of machines just stunning, but not killing Lyme?  Or maybe sending it into cyst? I would think would raise these concerns, but am not sure. (I bring this up because on two occassions I took an antiviral and I felt better right away, it lasted about 3 weeks and then I felt much worse. I'm pretty sure it just suppressed Lyme.)

I can't remember, did you say you are herxing from this machine?  On a scale of 0-100 (0 being dead, 100 being perfect health) where would you rate yourself just prior to starting the rife/bare and then one month (or so) after?

Do you know others elsewhere, who are using this machine for Lyme?I don't mean to sound like a pessimist, but since you've been sick with Lyme for so long I'm sure you understand.Thanks,

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I've had a doug coil for one year now and while I noticed some progress it was difficult because the coil only treated a small area at a time and overheated in under 10 minutes. So I felt like I was always a step behind.

But it worked enough to let me know that the concept of Dr Rife's was entirely viable.

After a few years of supplements, Rifing, and occasional trials of some other stuff I was still not sleeping more than a couple of hours, tired and falling asleep all day, and waking up in the morning in a lot of pain for a few hours at best. I had made some good progress the first year but the last two years had kind of steadied out into a basic level of misery that I could function at but it took all my energy to deal with the pain, tiredness and absentmindedness and inability to focus.

Two months ago I tried a new machine because I knew it had a carrier wave of high frequency programed into it and I needed to get well in a hurry because my 7 year old son was coming for the summer. It made it possible to get complete penetration of the frequency throughout my entire body at one time because the low frequency healing wave was being carried on a 37,000,000 hz carrier wave. I began Rifing not only for Lyme but for strengthening my immune system, detoxing, eyesight, cancer, and normalizing frequencies for all systems. I got definite herxes but took Chlorella and, began taking MMS #1 and #2 and then began getting a colonic twice a week. Within two months I have had more progress than I've had for the last 2 years and I think it has much to do with strengthening my immune system as well doing diligent detox.

I understand every ones skepticism and I have no need for anyone to do what I've done - I'm just sharing my experience.

If you study Dr Rife's work you will see that he also used a carrier wave. The doug coil does not use a carrier wave but uses power to attempt to force the low frequency wave as deep into the body as possible but that is only a few inches and only in an area of about a foot.

For me the results of the Rife/Bare machine were very impressive. My eye doctor could not believe how my eyes got better literally overnight so he took a photo of the back of my eyes and said they had somehow reverted back to a younger eye. He kept saying "I have no explanation for this". With this machine I can Rife for numerous Lyme co infections at one time. I usually rife at each frequency for 3 minutes. He's got some programs for Lyme programed in already and I just take turns running them. It's very convenient because I can watch TV while I rife.

I'll share something I find interesting. When the Rife/Bare machine is running and the bulb is 5 feet away from me I cannot work on my desktop computer because the bulb is so powerful that when the frequency generator changes frequencies it locks up my computer. I cannot turn on my powerful speaker system with a big base because the system will hum when the Rife machine is turned on.

The herxes can be tough if I rife too long but I've been able to achieve a good balance between rifing and detoxing.

I can't say what has made such a remarkable difference in just two months because a couple of weeks ago I started also doing MMS #1 and #2 but I will tell you this - this machine is working wonders with me and Marisa. Maybe my body is more susceptible to energy work but I now can finally see that there is an end to this long and painful journey. I'm actually feeling almost normal again but there is still a bit to go.

I Rife every day and when I'm going to get a colonic the next day I rife for a few hours. Sometimes the herx wakes me up in the middle of the night but it all clears the next day with the colonic. I also walk in the ocean for an hour a few times a week.

Whatever makes this machine different I can tell you that I can now bound up stairs that just a couple of months ago I walked up in pain with sharp pains in my right knee.

I'm not trying to convince anyone - I'm so grateful for getting healthy that I just wanted to share.

I still have my doug coil but the progress with the Rife/Bare is just too impressive not to use.

Remember what Rife said about cancer - that he could turn it on and off by using the Rife machine to change the environment that it was in. I am totally certain that I will be rid of cancer in a short time. I'm not even remotely worried now. Between MMS and this new Rife machine I have no doubt.

As far as the other types of Rife machines I have no experience with them but would want to know if they also generate a very high frequency carrier wave to embed the healing frequency in. I don't know fopr sure but I would doubt it. I really think that Dr Bare has come as close as possible to recreating Rife's work. Either way it is working wonderfully for me and I'm going to buy a second one to be sure I'm never without one for the rest of my life.

Now I'm going to continue Rifing every three days for cancer and Lyme and in between I'm going to Rife to strengthen my Immune system and to heal my adrenals as well as the rest of my ravaged systems. I'll be glad to be the test pilot and keep you all informed. Believe me when I say that NOTHING would make me happier than to find something that would end all our suffering and to that end I share these experiences with you all.

I truly hope it is all I think it is but let's wait a couple of months and see how I survive a summer with my 7 year old. I do think the MMS is a big help with detox though.

Anyway, I'll keep you all informed and hopefully Dr Bare has actually discovered something that will make all our lives easier - nothing would please me more.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 1:11:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: Bare machine ()

Jim, I was waiting for you to comment! ;-)I too am like you leader/follower. I think this happens because at first we spent money hand over fist trying to get well. Then we either run out of money, or have simply tried so many things that the skeptic in us emerges., I am so happy you are on our group and we all are anxious to hear of your progress. I hope you will remain and keep us informed. One thing that crossed my skeptic mind was, did you notice a big difference once you got your new machine or has it just been gradual after coiling and MMS for so long? Part of me just wonders since you've been treating for so long that you should have reached this place with just what you were doing. The other part of me wonders, if you are getting better faster (once you got your rife/bare) are these type of machines just stunning, but not killing Lyme? Or maybe

sending it into cyst? I would think would raise these concerns, but am not sure. (I bring this up because on two occassions I took an antiviral and I felt better right away, it lasted about 3 weeks and then I felt much worse. I'm pretty sure it just suppressed Lyme.)I can't remember, did you say you are herxing from this machine? On a scale of 0-100 (0 being dead, 100 being perfect health) where would you rate yourself just prior to starting the rife/bare and then one month (or so) after?Do you know others elsewhere, who are using this machine for Lyme?I don't mean to sound like a pessimist, but since you've been sick with Lyme for so long I'm sure you understand.Thanks,

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, please don't take our skepticism as criticism.  Just " twice burned " caution.  We all appreciate you describing your experience. Please keep it up.I'm wondering if when you were/are coiling if you hold the coil away from you or if you touch it to your body?  For many years, some manufacturers were advising (as well as Rosner) to sit 12 " away.  We now know that you should place the coil right up against you - touching you.

Jim, you are making me think about giving MMS another shot.  Oh yeah, I can't, I promised this new doc I'd stick with her protocol for at least 3 months.  The labs will tell!  Maybe I'll pop an MMS2 every now and then.

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Hello

Jim Bare's Rife/Bare uses the frequency of 27,125 mhz which is in the ISM band

The Doug coil uses a magnetic field in the frequency range of 1000 hz or less.

one is not comparable with the other ..Resonant light technologies makes a unit

called the perl but it is a licensed copy of the Bare/Rife..both units work well.

27.125 MHZ is the carrier frequency which is required to take the modulated

frequencys in to the body cells

Re: Re: Bare machine ()

This machine uses a bulb, not a coil of wire, like the original machine designed by dr rife in 1932. I sit 5-6 ft from it and it penetrates my entire body at once because it utilizes a very high frequency carrier wave of 37,000,000 h that the lower frequency healing wave is embedded into. So it actually uses two waves at once. The Doug coil uses a coil of wire to generate a magnetic wave of only one frequency which is the low frequency healing wave. This wave dissipates within a few inches so it must be held against the body. The bulb on the rife/bare can treat up to about 20 ft I think because the high frequency carrier wave can penetrate the entire body easily at one time.

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On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:16 AM, H <40dayjourneygmail> wrote:

, please don't take our skepticism as criticism. Just "twice burned" caution. We all appreciate you describing your experience. Please keep it up.I'm wondering if when you were/are coiling if you hold the coil away from you or if you touch it to your body? For many years, some manufacturers were advising (as well as Rosner) to sit 12" away. We now know that you should place the coil right up against you - touching you.Jim, you are making me think about giving MMS another shot. Oh yeah, I can't, I promised this new doc I'd stick with her protocol for at least 3 months. The labs will tell! Maybe I'll pop an MMS2 every now and then.

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This machine uses a bulb, not a coil of wire, like the original machine designed by dr rife in 1932. I sit 5-6 ft from it and it penetrates my entire body at once because it utilizes a very high frequency carrier wave of 37,000,000 h that the lower frequency healing wave is embedded into. So it actually uses two waves at once. The Doug coil uses a coil of wire to generate a magnetic wave of only one frequency which is the low frequency healing wave. This wave dissipates within a few inches so it must be held against the body. The bulb on the rife/bare can treat up to about 20 ft I think because the high frequency carrier wave can penetrate the entire body easily at one time.Sent from my iPad

, please don't take our skepticism as criticism. Just "twice burned" caution. We all appreciate you describing your experience. Please keep it up.I'm wondering if when you were/are coiling if you hold the coil away from you or if you touch it to your body? For many years, some manufacturers were advising (as well as Rosner) to sit 12" away. We now know that you should place the coil right up against you - touching you.

Jim, you are making me think about giving MMS another shot. Oh yeah, I can't, I promised this new doc I'd stick with her protocol for at least 3 months. The labs will tell! Maybe I'll pop an MMS2 every now and then.

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Hi RIchard,Yep, I get that. I was just wondering how you've been using your coil?  I was thinking, could be wrong, that you've been using a coil for a while, then purchased a Rife/Bare.

If so, I was just wondering if during the time you've been coiling - what was your protocol.  Were you holding it touching your body or away from your body?  How often were you coiling?  Just trying to figure this out.

Thanks,PS: Has your son arrived? Hope you all have fun!

 

This machine uses a bulb, not a coil of wire, like the original machine designed by dr rife in 1932. I sit 5-6 ft from it and it penetrates my entire body at once because it utilizes a very high frequency carrier wave of 37,000,000 h that the lower frequency healing wave is embedded into. So it actually uses two waves at once. The Doug coil uses a coil of wire to generate a magnetic wave of only one frequency which is the low frequency healing wave. This wave dissipates within a few inches so it must be held against the body. The bulb on the rife/bare can treat up to about 20 ft I think because the high frequency carrier wave can penetrate the entire body easily at one time.

Sent from my iPad

 

, please don't take our skepticism as criticism.  Just " twice burned " caution.  We all appreciate you describing your experience. Please keep it up.I'm wondering if when you were/are coiling if you hold the coil away from you or if you touch it to your body?  For many years, some manufacturers were advising (as well as Rosner) to sit 12 " away.  We now know that you should place the coil right up against you - touching you.

Jim, you are making me think about giving MMS another shot.  Oh yeah, I can't, I promised this new doc I'd stick with her protocol for at least 3 months.  The labs will tell!  Maybe I'll pop an MMS2 every now and then.

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Sorry I misunderstood. With the coil I would hold it directly against my body. My coil would overheat within 6-10 minutes though so I could,t do much of an area at a time. The new machine does my entire body at one time. Need to employ serious detox though.Sent from my iPad

Hi RIchard,Yep, I get that. I was just wondering how you've been using your coil? I was thinking, could be wrong, that you've been using a coil for a while, then purchased a Rife/Bare.

If so, I was just wondering if during the time you've been coiling - what was your protocol. Were you holding it touching your body or away from your body? How often were you coiling? Just trying to figure this out.

Thanks,PS: Has your son arrived? Hope you all have fun!On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Darlington <richardd9229> wrote:

This machine uses a bulb, not a coil of wire, like the original machine designed by dr rife in 1932. I sit 5-6 ft from it and it penetrates my entire body at once because it utilizes a very high frequency carrier wave of 37,000,000 h that the lower frequency healing wave is embedded into. So it actually uses two waves at once. The Doug coil uses a coil of wire to generate a magnetic wave of only one frequency which is the low frequency healing wave. This wave dissipates within a few inches so it must be held against the body. The bulb on the rife/bare can treat up to about 20 ft I think because the high frequency carrier wave can penetrate the entire body easily at one time.

Sent from my iPadOn Jul 8, 2010, at 12:16 AM, H <40dayjourneygmail> wrote:

, please don't take our skepticism as criticism. Just "twice burned" caution. We all appreciate you describing your experience. Please keep it up.I'm wondering if when you were/are coiling if you hold the coil away from you or if you touch it to your body? For many years, some manufacturers were advising (as well as Rosner) to sit 12" away. We now know that you should place the coil right up against you - touching you.

Jim, you are making me think about giving MMS another shot. Oh yeah, I can't, I promised this new doc I'd stick with her protocol for at least 3 months. The labs will tell! Maybe I'll pop an MMS2 every now and then.

[Guest guest]

Thanks .I believe that 1 minute is sufficient over any area - the exception being over your liver for Babesia.  Depending on the herz (?) you shouldn't run your machine more than 4-20 minutes.

Keep us posted on your progress.

 

Sorry I misunderstood. With the coil I would hold it directly against my body. My coil would overheat within 6-10 minutes though so I could,t do much of an area at a time. The new machine does my entire body at one time. Need to employ serious detox though.

Sent from my iPad

 

Hi RIchard,Yep, I get that. I was just wondering how you've been using your coil?  I was thinking, could be wrong, that you've been using a coil for a while, then purchased a Rife/Bare.

If so, I was just wondering if during the time you've been coiling - what was your protocol.  Were you holding it touching your body or away from your body?  How often were you coiling?  Just trying to figure this out.

Thanks,PS: Has your son arrived? Hope you all have fun!On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Darlington <richardd9229> wrote:

 

This machine uses a bulb, not a coil of wire, like the original machine designed by dr rife in 1932. I sit 5-6 ft from it and it penetrates my entire body at once because it utilizes a very high frequency carrier wave of 37,000,000 h that the lower frequency healing wave is embedded into. So it actually uses two waves at once. The Doug coil uses a coil of wire to generate a magnetic wave of only one frequency which is the low frequency healing wave. This wave dissipates within a few inches so it must be held against the body. The bulb on the rife/bare can treat up to about 20 ft I think because the high frequency carrier wave can penetrate the entire body easily at one time.

Sent from my iPadOn Jul 8, 2010, at 12:16 AM, H <40dayjourneygmail> wrote:

 

, please don't take our skepticism as criticism.  Just " twice burned " caution.  We all appreciate you describing your experience. Please keep it up.I'm wondering if when you were/are coiling if you hold the coil away from you or if you touch it to your body?  For many years, some manufacturers were advising (as well as Rosner) to sit 12 " away.  We now know that you should place the coil right up against you - touching you.

Jim, you are making me think about giving MMS another shot.  Oh yeah, I can't, I promised this new doc I'd stick with her protocol for at least 3 months.  The labs will tell!  Maybe I'll pop an MMS2 every now and then.