went on a hike

[Guest guest]

well i did manage to go on a hike the other day.

my son for his birthday wanted to walk to the top of Multnomah Falls, a walk

we've done together more than once, and I was not about to be left behind.

I had to go very slow but I did it. It's 1 1/4 mile, very steep and then back

down again. 2.5 miles total. would like to go for a walk today, but my calf is

as stiff as a board, I may do some of my physical therapy exercises instead.

Didn't get much sleep, so not sure when I'm going to hit the wall. I just

vacuumed the house, which is also a task I haven't been up for much since the

baby.

so this is where I went, almost as pretty as the NY pictures

http://www.multnomahfallslodge.com/

http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/recreation/waterfalls.shtml

this is relatively near my house and one of the places I used to hike

frequently.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

I visited that area a very long time ago.  So very pretty there.Hope you're feeling well soon, Laurie.  It's so hard when one isn't feeling well.Elaine

 

well i did manage to go on a hike the other day.

my son for his birthday wanted to walk to the top of Multnomah Falls, a walk we've done together more than once, and I was not about to be left behind.

I had to go very slow but I did it. It's 1 1/4 mile, very steep and then back down again. 2.5 miles total. would like to go for a walk today, but my calf is as stiff as a board, I may do some of my physical therapy exercises instead. Didn't get much sleep, so not sure when I'm going to hit the wall. I just vacuumed the house, which is also a task I haven't been up for much since the baby.

so this is where I went, almost as pretty as the NY pictures

http://www.multnomahfallslodge.com/

http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/recreation/waterfalls.shtml

this is relatively near my house and one of the places I used to hike frequently.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention how excited i was to actually do those things. it's a

beautiful day, i am thinking of taking the bike out as our plans with friends

fell through.

laurie

>

> >

> >

> > well i did manage to go on a hike the other day.

> >

> > my son for his birthday wanted to walk to the top of Multnomah Falls, a

> > walk we've done together more than once, and I was not about to be left

> > behind.

> >

> > I had to go very slow but I did it. It's 1 1/4 mile, very steep and then

> > back down again. 2.5 miles total. would like to go for a walk today, but my

> > calf is as stiff as a board, I may do some of my physical therapy exercises

> > instead. Didn't get much sleep, so not sure when I'm going to hit the wall.

> > I just vacuumed the house, which is also a task I haven't been up for much

> > since the baby.

> >

> > so this is where I went, almost as pretty as the NY pictures

> >

> > http://www.multnomahfallslodge.com/

> >

> > http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/recreation/waterfalls.shtml

> >

> > this is relatively near my house and one of the places I used to hike

> > frequently.

> >

> > Laurie

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I

love hiking!! I just wish someone lived near me who also enjoyed it.

Of course

since I hurt my back I haven’t been able to walk as much as I would

like..

but

I am determined it is going to heal FAST

Hugs,

TnT

From:

thefatmanwalking_group

[mailto:thefatmanwalking_group ] On Behalf Of spamthekat

Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:09 PM

To: thefatmanwalking_group

Subject: Re: went on a hike

I forgot to mention how excited i was to

actually do those things. it's a beautiful day, i am thinking of taking the

bike out as our plans with friends fell through.

laurie

>

> >

> >

> > well i did manage to go on a hike the other day.

> >

> > my son for his birthday wanted to walk to the top of Multnomah Falls,

a

> > walk we've done together more than once, and I was not about to be

left

> > behind.

> >

> > I had to go very slow but I did it. It's 1 1/4 mile, very steep and

then

> > back down again. 2.5 miles total. would like to go for a walk today,

but my

> > calf is as stiff as a board, I may do some of my physical therapy

exercises

> > instead. Didn't get much sleep, so not sure when I'm going to hit the

wall.

> > I just vacuumed the house, which is also a task I haven't been up for

much

> > since the baby.

> >

> > so this is where I went, almost as pretty as the NY pictures

> >

> > http://www.multnomahfallslodge.com/

> >

> > http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/recreation/waterfalls.shtml

> >

> > this is relatively near my house and one of the places I used to hike

> > frequently.

> >

> > Laurie

[Guest guest]

Oh, , I'm sorry you hurt your back.  Bernard would say, get a life.  But I'd never say anything that mean.

 

I

love hiking!!  I just wish someone lived near me who also enjoyed it.

Of course

since I hurt my back I haven’t been able to walk as much as I would

like..

but

I am determined it is going to heal FAST

Hugs,

TnT

 

From:

thefatmanwalking_group

[mailto:thefatmanwalking_group ] On Behalf Of spamthekat

Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:09 PM

To: thefatmanwalking_group

Subject: Re: went on a hike

 

 

I forgot to mention how excited i was to

actually do those things. it's a beautiful day, i am thinking of taking the

bike out as our plans with friends fell through.

laurie

>

> >

> >

> > well i did manage to go on a hike the other day.

> >

> > my son for his birthday wanted to walk to the top of Multnomah Falls,

a

> > walk we've done together more than once, and I was not about to be

left

> > behind.

> >

> > I had to go very slow but I did it. It's 1 1/4 mile, very steep and

then

> > back down again. 2.5 miles total. would like to go for a walk today,

but my

> > calf is as stiff as a board, I may do some of my physical therapy

exercises

> > instead. Didn't get much sleep, so not sure when I'm going to hit the

wall.

> > I just vacuumed the house, which is also a task I haven't been up for

much

> > since the baby.

> >

> > so this is where I went, almost as pretty as the NY pictures

> >

> > http://www.multnomahfallslodge.com/

> >

> > http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/recreation/waterfalls.shtml

> >

> > this is relatively near my house and one of the places I used to hike

> > frequently.

> >

> > Laurie

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, , I was still smarting from what mean thing Bernard said.  I don't know who he is.  It's not like he's been posting for years like many of us.  But when I pointed out that hiking isn't a choice, he meanly said, get a life.  When you said you couldn't hike, that is exactly what I was talking about.  It's not always a choice so it's like saying to you, get a life. 

I've noticed that once one of these " newcomers " show their meanness, they are often mean, and to lots of people.  I've no time for them and there're people on here whose posts I never read once they are mean to anyone.  When more people, like Bernard, come into the group, it will be time for me to exit.  Lots of good groups have gone this way.  People come in and (are they moderated?) are allowed to say whatever they want without restraint and the good people go.  Then you're just left with the Bernards.

Elaine

Oh, , I'm sorry you hurt your back.  Bernard would say, get a life.  But I'd never say anything that mean.

 

I

love hiking!!  I just wish someone lived near me who also enjoyed it.

Of course

since I hurt my back I haven’t been able to walk as much as I would

like..

but

I am determined it is going to heal FAST

Hugs,

TnT

 

From:

thefatmanwalking_group

[mailto:thefatmanwalking_group ] On Behalf Of spamthekat

Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:09 PM

To: thefatmanwalking_group

Subject: Re: went on a hike

 

 

I forgot to mention how excited i was to

actually do those things. it's a beautiful day, i am thinking of taking the

bike out as our plans with friends fell through.

laurie

>

> >

> >

> > well i did manage to go on a hike the other day.

> >

> > my son for his birthday wanted to walk to the top of Multnomah Falls,

a

> > walk we've done together more than once, and I was not about to be

left

> > behind.

> >

> > I had to go very slow but I did it. It's 1 1/4 mile, very steep and

then

> > back down again. 2.5 miles total. would like to go for a walk today,

but my

> > calf is as stiff as a board, I may do some of my physical therapy

exercises

> > instead. Didn't get much sleep, so not sure when I'm going to hit the

wall.

> > I just vacuumed the house, which is also a task I haven't been up for

much

> > since the baby.

> >

> > so this is where I went, almost as pretty as the NY pictures

> >

> > http://www.multnomahfallslodge.com/

> >

> > http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/recreation/waterfalls.shtml

> >

> > this is relatively near my house and one of the places I used to hike

> > frequently.

> >

> > Laurie

[Guest guest]

Elaine,

I

truly hope you don’t leave the group. I am not sure what Bernard

said that was wrong??

Perhaps

you can send in what you were offended by? I think his post was meant to

be a positive one telling us to get off the couch and get going..

I

don’t think it was meant to be a slam against those who cannot walk

because of a disability or illness?? I think it was directed toward those

of us who are overweight & healthy.. who sit on the couch complaining about

our sad lives and are not willing to change them??

Was

it this part?? Did I miss something that came before it?? HELP??

“The best part is we have freedom of choice to walk or not. Its

up to us nobody else. We can get all the advice we want BUT IT COMES FROM

WITHIN US.”

Hugs,

TnT

From:

thefatmanwalking_group [mailto:thefatmanwalking_group ]

On Behalf Of Elaine

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:30 PM

To: thefatmanwalking_group

Subject: Re: Re: went on a hike

I'm sorry, , I was still smarting from

what mean thing Bernard said. I don't know who he is. It's not like

he's been posting for years like many of us. But when I pointed out that

hiking isn't a choice, he meanly said, get a life. When you said you

couldn't hike, that is exactly what I was talking about. It's not always

a choice so it's like saying to you, get a life.

I've noticed that once one of these " newcomers " show their meanness,

they are often mean, and to lots of people. I've no time for them and

there're people on here whose posts I never read once they are mean to

anyone. When more people, like Bernard, come into the group, it will be

time for me to exit. Lots of good groups have gone this way. People

come in and (are they moderated?) are allowed to say whatever they want without

restraint and the good people go. Then you're just left with the

Bernards.

Elaine

Oh, , I'm sorry you hurt

your back. Bernard would say, get a life. But I'd never say

anything that mean.

[Guest guest]

" get a life "   that was incredibly rude and from someone who says we should all be supportive, it was so non-supportive.  But it's a growing trend that was never found on this group before.

 

Elaine,

I

truly hope you don’t leave the group.  I am not sure what Bernard

said that was wrong?? 

 

Perhaps

you can send in what you were offended by?  I think his post was meant to

be a positive one telling us to get off the couch and get going..

I

don’t think it was meant to be a slam against those who cannot walk

because of a disability or illness??  I think it was directed toward those

of us who are overweight & healthy.. who sit on the couch complaining about

our sad lives and are not willing to change them?? 

 

Was

it this part??   Did I miss something that came before it??  HELP??

“The best part is we have freedom of choice to walk or not. Its

up to us nobody else. We can get all the advice we want BUT IT COMES FROM

WITHIN US.”

 

Hugs,

TnT

 

 

From:

thefatmanwalking_group [mailto:thefatmanwalking_group ]

On Behalf Of Elaine

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:30 PM

To: thefatmanwalking_group

Subject: Re: Re: went on a hike

 

 

I'm sorry, , I was still smarting from

what mean thing Bernard said.  I don't know who he is.  It's not like

he's been posting for years like many of us.  But when I pointed out that

hiking isn't a choice, he meanly said, get a life.  When you said you

couldn't hike, that is exactly what I was talking about.  It's not always

a choice so it's like saying to you, get a life. 

I've noticed that once one of these " newcomers " show their meanness,

they are often mean, and to lots of people.  I've no time for them and

there're people on here whose posts I never read once they are mean to

anyone.  When more people, like Bernard, come into the group, it will be

time for me to exit.  Lots of good groups have gone this way.  People

come in and (are they moderated?) are allowed to say whatever they want without

restraint and the good people go.  Then you're just left with the

Bernards.

Elaine

Oh, , I'm sorry you hurt

your back.  Bernard would say, get a life.  But I'd never say

anything that mean.

[Guest guest]

I know a lot about struggling with physical limitations and your

little story of doing a walk, or managing to hoover, is SO SO

familiar!

These are the things that shape our lives for so many of us.

We talk in the family of how I once climbed Grey Hill - a climb that

my lean strong husband happily admits is " quite difficult " with a

grin. Like the last third is on hands and knees even for my

magnificent herculean son!

It was really scary actually because it thundered lightninged and

rained as we got to the top and made it all muddy. We seriously

thought we'd have to call out a helicopter for me and dear Colin who

also has big limits.

But we stayed calm, son and husband did pathfinding and we slowly

found our way down again.

This summer we're going to work on refitting the old yacht - 1930 all

wooden gaff rig cutter. I have not been sailing in her for 15 years.

When I do that's my dream - I'll have " made it " back into 'having a

life. "

It'll be many many days of teeth gritting heroic struggle. Tonight I

am so tired ... but I've been getting my own house cleaning done every

day now for 5 days!

Actually the fit and healthy miss out on a lot of these grim triumphs I think.

From my struggle to yours.

Shan

[Guest guest]

ElaineOne trick I find useful if I find someone on a list offensive is set up an emnail rule so any emails coming in from that email address just get deleted. Makes things so peaceful.LoveShan

[Guest guest]

I wonder how many of us found personal inspiration in this posting, Shan. I am struggling with some health issues just now and am printing this out and keeping it in a prominent place to remind me to do the same and keep some similar goals in mind.

W

Re: Re: went on a hike

I know a lot about struggling with physical limitations and yourlittle story of doing a walk, or managing to hoover, is SO SOfamiliar!These are the things that shape our lives for so many of us.We talk in the family of how I once climbed Grey Hill - a climb thatmy lean strong husband happily admits is "quite difficult" with agrin. Like the last third is on hands and knees even for mymagnificent herculean son!It was really scary actually because it thundered lightninged andrained as we got to the top and made it all muddy. We seriouslythought we'd have to call out a helicopter for me and dear Colin whoalso has big limits.But we stayed calm, son and husband did pathfinding and we slowlyfound our way down again.This summer we're going to work on refitting the old yacht - 1930 allwooden gaff rig cutter. I have not been sailing in her for 15 years.When I do that's my dream - I'll have "made it" back into 'having alife."It'll be many many days of teeth gritting heroic struggle. Tonight Iam so tired ... but I've been getting my own house cleaning done everyday now for 5 days!Actually the fit and healthy miss out on a lot of these grim triumphs I think.From my struggle to yours.Shan

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Shan, that's very helpful.  Your climbing adventure sounds like quite an achievement, now that you're back safe and sound.Elaine

 

ElaineOne trick I find useful if I find someone on a list offensive is set up an emnail rule so any emails coming in from that email address just get deleted. Makes things so peaceful.LoveShan

[Guest guest]

Hope things get better for your soon, .  We used to have such a great, close-knit group of only supportive people on here.  It was such fun when everyone posted.  I miss that.Elaine

 

I wonder how many of us found personal inspiration in this posting, Shan.  I am struggling with some health issues just now and am printing this out and keeping it in a prominent place to remind me to do the same and keep some similar goals in mind.

W

Re: Re: went on a hike

 

I know a lot about struggling with physical limitations and yourlittle story of doing a walk, or managing to hoover, is SO SOfamiliar!These are the things that shape our lives for so many of us.We talk in the family of how I once climbed Grey Hill - a climb thatmy lean strong husband happily admits is " quite difficult " with agrin. Like the last third is on hands and knees even for mymagnificent herculean son!It was really scary actually because it thundered lightninged andrained as we got to the top and made it all muddy. We seriouslythought we'd have to call out a helicopter for me and dear Colin whoalso has big limits.But we stayed calm, son and husband did pathfinding and we slowlyfound our way down again.This summer we're going to work on refitting the old yacht - 1930 allwooden gaff rig cutter. I have not been sailing in her for 15 years.When I do that's my dream - I'll have " made it " back into 'having alife. " It'll be many many days of teeth gritting heroic struggle. Tonight Iam so tired ... but I've been getting my own house cleaning done everyday now for 5 days!Actually the fit and healthy miss out on a lot of these grim triumphs I think.From my struggle to yours.Shan

[Guest guest]

dear I don't really know what to say to your post. I just wanted

to reveal how physical struggle is so ordinary. I'm touched and glad

that what I said was inspirational.

So much of this huge struggle going on with physical limits is

submerged. For the lucky ones like me there are nearest and dearest

who know and see and comment. For others there are carers, hopefully

nice enough to comment.

For a lot of us it is a point of pride to conceal most of the

struggle. It's not so much heroic I think as that it does make it

easier just to quietly get on with it. My family know I am happier if

mostly nothing is said. They just quietly carry things for me etc and

no one says anything.

Except those lovely moments when husband says " You're moving well

today " oh how lovely.

But now and again I think it's good to break the silence.

At the moment I am struggling with a longish convalescence from a

winter bug. My chest hurts, I can't breathe fully, I have a low fever

and aching arms and legs. Have to keep having naps. This could easily

go on another week or two on past form and I've been ill all Jan and

Feb.

But am still getting bits of tidying done, a small shopping today.

Tomorrow I will hope I canm visit the woods for one of my little walks

because gentle exercise does help the immune system so. Plus my friend

Echinacea.

I am a bit low because was stopped by a police officer for a check.

Asked to get out of the car and get in his - not necessary for a

routine check but he had issues I think. Was not a strong day so I

walked very slowly to his car, lightly touching both cars on the way

for support and reassurance. So my movement was clearly visible as not

" ordinary. "

As I got in his he barked at me snappishly " Well shut the door then! "

very harsh voice.

I was trying to swing my legs into the car. I said " I will when I've

managed to get into the car. I'm afraid I am slightly disabled so I

can't move as fast as someone like you. "

A small silence and an irritable apology which was SO clearly said in

an angry voice to cover his back. He then proceeded to bully me ...

As my son said when I got back to him in our own car, " So he told you

off for being 60 and disabled. Nice. "

I think the stress of it has brought the fever back. Nasty little turd.

But today was not too bad. I did at least manage a bit of shopping for

the family.

As for weight since I started being very strict about starch it's much

better. I am trying to cut out all starch on alternate days except for

my oats porridge breakfast and an afternoon oatcakes snack. So I guess

it's really no starch after 6pm (no pasta, potato, bread, pastry etc

for dinner) on the 'off' days.

It's definitely working. I didn't know that starch kicks off insulin

which switches us into fat storage instead of fat burning. Oats seem

to be much better than wheat I don't know why.

My knees have stopped being ominous, my lower back doesn't ache when I

walk about, both of which was overweight. My fluffy boots are LOOSE

yay! and I've got nicely shaped ankles YAY!

Tummy and chin keep sagging in a most unattractive way but every few

days they tighten up again. Husband saus it all definitely looks

smaller.

Gave up on scales a long time ago too depressing. But all the signs

are good. Bless the oats!

Love to all.

Shan Morgain

[Guest guest]

I like it. Thanks Shan.

 

dear I don't really know what to say to your post. I just wanted

to reveal how physical struggle is so ordinary. I'm touched and glad

that what I said was inspirational.

So much of this huge struggle going on with physical limits is

submerged. For the lucky ones like me there are nearest and dearest

who know and see and comment. For others there are carers, hopefully

nice enough to comment.

For a lot of us it is a point of pride to conceal most of the

struggle. It's not so much heroic I think as that it does make it

easier just to quietly get on with it. My family know I am happier if

mostly nothing is said. They just quietly carry things for me etc and

no one says anything.

Except those lovely moments when husband says " You're moving well

today " oh how lovely.

But now and again I think it's good to break the silence.

At the moment I am struggling with a longish convalescence from a

winter bug. My chest hurts, I can't breathe fully, I have a low fever

and aching arms and legs. Have to keep having naps. This could easily

go on another week or two on past form and I've been ill all Jan and

Feb.

But am still getting bits of tidying done, a small shopping today.

Tomorrow I will hope I canm visit the woods for one of my little walks

because gentle exercise does help the immune system so. Plus my friend

Echinacea.

I am a bit low because was stopped by a police officer for a check.

Asked to get out of the car and get in his - not necessary for a

routine check but he had issues I think. Was not a strong day so I

walked very slowly to his car, lightly touching both cars on the way

for support and reassurance. So my movement was clearly visible as not

" ordinary. "

As I got in his he barked at me snappishly " Well shut the door then! "

very harsh voice.

I was trying to swing my legs into the car. I said " I will when I've

managed to get into the car. I'm afraid I am slightly disabled so I

can't move as fast as someone like you. "

A small silence and an irritable apology which was SO clearly said in

an angry voice to cover his back. He then proceeded to bully me ...

As my son said when I got back to him in our own car, " So he told you

off for being 60 and disabled. Nice. "

I think the stress of it has brought the fever back. Nasty little turd.

But today was not too bad. I did at least manage a bit of shopping for

the family.

As for weight since I started being very strict about starch it's much

better. I am trying to cut out all starch on alternate days except for

my oats porridge breakfast and an afternoon oatcakes snack. So I guess

it's really no starch after 6pm (no pasta, potato, bread, pastry etc

for dinner) on the 'off' days.

It's definitely working. I didn't know that starch kicks off insulin

which switches us into fat storage instead of fat burning. Oats seem

to be much better than wheat I don't know why.

My knees have stopped being ominous, my lower back doesn't ache when I

walk about, both of which was overweight. My fluffy boots are LOOSE

yay! and I've got nicely shaped ankles YAY!

Tummy and chin keep sagging in a most unattractive way but every few

days they tighten up again. Husband saus it all definitely looks

smaller.

Gave up on scales a long time ago too depressing. But all the signs

are good. Bless the oats!

Love to all.

Shan Morgain

-- Take Care, Vi

[Guest guest]

the boat sounds so very cool. it's always good to have a project and a goal, i

need to work on my goals list.

wishing you some sun,

laurie

>

> I know a lot about struggling with physical limitations and your

> little story of doing a walk, or managing to hoover, is SO SO

> familiar!

>

> These are the things that shape our lives for so many of us.

>

> We talk in the family of how I once climbed Grey Hill - a climb that

> my lean strong husband happily admits is " quite difficult " with a

> grin. Like the last third is on hands and knees even for my

> magnificent herculean son!

>

> It was really scary actually because it thundered lightninged and

> rained as we got to the top and made it all muddy. We seriously

> thought we'd have to call out a helicopter for me and dear Colin who

> also has big limits.

> But we stayed calm, son and husband did pathfinding and we slowly

> found our way down again.

>

> This summer we're going to work on refitting the old yacht - 1930 all

> wooden gaff rig cutter. I have not been sailing in her for 15 years.

> When I do that's my dream - I'll have " made it " back into 'having a

> life. "

>

> It'll be many many days of teeth gritting heroic struggle. Tonight I

> am so tired ... but I've been getting my own house cleaning done every

> day now for 5 days!

> Actually the fit and healthy miss out on a lot of these grim triumphs I think.

>

> From my struggle to yours.

>

>

> Shan

>

[Guest guest]

good for you! what a bummer about the officer. but it sounds like your

progress is leaving you feeling good and that's awesome to hear.

laurie

>

>

> My knees have stopped being ominous, my lower back doesn't ache when I

> walk about, both of which was overweight. My fluffy boots are LOOSE

> yay! and I've got nicely shaped ankles YAY!

> Tummy and chin keep sagging in a most unattractive way but every few

> days they tighten up again. Husband saus it all definitely looks

> smaller.

> Gave up on scales a long time ago too depressing. But all the signs

> are good. Bless the oats!

>

> Love to all.

>

>

> Shan Morgain

>

[Guest guest]

Good for you on the hike!

susan

>

> well i did manage to go on a hike the other day.

>

> my son for his birthday wanted to walk to the top of Multnomah Falls, a walk

we've done together more than once, and I was not about to be left behind.

>

> I had to go very slow but I did it. It's 1 1/4 mile, very steep and then back

down again. 2.5 miles total. would like to go for a walk today, but my calf is

as stiff as a board, I may do some of my physical therapy exercises instead.

Didn't get much sleep, so not sure when I'm going to hit the wall. I just

vacuumed the house, which is also a task I haven't been up for much since the

baby.

>

> so this is where I went, almost as pretty as the NY pictures

>

> http://www.multnomahfallslodge.com/

>

> http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/recreation/waterfalls.shtml

>

> this is relatively near my house and one of the places I used to hike

frequently.

>

> Laurie

>