Guest guest Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Hi Jim, I am aware of the quackwatch controversy. I did say in my post that I do not like that site. However, I used it to validate my position that dark field microsopy, in the U.S., is being exploited by those who are unqualified to use it, due to non-regulation. That is a fact. The incidents of misuse cited by the quackwatch site are valid, I believe (though I agree, I have issues with the author and the site itself, and I never go there - but it came up in my google search to prove my point). It's unfortunate. But that is the case with many things in the U.S. (Europe is a bit more enlightened - but not much!), as wealthy special interests (corporations) have a stranglehold on the health care industry, and numerous aspects of modern life. This must change. Again, my understanding of the life cycle of the Bb organism, in vivo, is the basis for my claim that the odds of being able to physically view living spirochetes in a blood sample of advanced Lyme patients is so remote, that physically looking for them is not a viable way to detect them. Detecting antigens and other remants of spiros in the blood is quite different from viewing active, living spirochetes. The bulk of my scientific background and understanding of the Bb organism comes from reading Harrod Buhner's book, "Healing Lyme". I still think that book contains the best organized, scientific explantation of Lyme and co's, and is overall, the best reference. - Jane Subject: Re: Darkfield Microscope (was) OT: Severity of Chronic, Long-term LymeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 11:44 PM Hi Jane,Dr. JoAnne Whitaker, MD is well known for her work in developing a better Lyme test... She not only proved that Lyme is more widespread by her results that actually tested for antigens using a darkfield microscope... Today her work is carried on by Central Florida Research.... http://www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lyme_expert_interview_series.htmlJoAnne Whitaker, MD: Bowen Research Lab Develops New Lyme TestJoAnne Whitaker, MD, FAAP, is an internationally known speaker and researcher on Lyme disease. Over a long and distinguished medical career, Dr. Whitaker has worked as a doctor in several different countries, notably in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam war. Recently, she patented a test for Lyme disease that is said to be highly sensitive, more reliable, and yield quicker results than any previous tests for the disease.Dr. K....hardt in WA acknowledges the Bowen Lyme test as the most successful here in the UShttp://www.sustainablehealth.org.uk/pages/Articles/Useof_Pharmax_LymeDisease.html Lyme Disease is a chronic disease that is responsible for a multitude of illnesses including chronic low back pain, migraine headache, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and even some cancers. It is most often misdiagnosed as another illness. For the diagnosis, we are currently recommending the lymphocyte transformation test that is not available in the USA. Here, the most successful diagnostic procedure is the direct proof of the microbial presence through phase contrast dark field microscopy after using species-specific fluorescent stain (Bowen Research laboratory).The FDA may not approve of using this device for blood analysis, but it is still used by some doctors and healthcare professionals such as NDs and chiropractors... And just because the FDA does not approve, the rest of the world thinks highly of these microscopes... I would however only allow an experienced medical practitioner to render any opinions about what he sees with this device... Someone like our common friend should not be allowed to use this device on another human being.. http://www.cancersalves.com/checklist/oxygenation.html>>>>>Darkfield microscopyis very popular in Europe and considerably less well known in the U.S. where it is sometimes confused with other types of microscopy. In darkfield, one sees details that are invisible in electron microscopy, particularly details in the plasma. Additionally, one observes live blood and can therefore develop a sense of "context" for roles played by different types of white blood cells. The capacity to view living blood is enabled because no fixative is used. Nearly every naturopath and many medical doctors in Europe use darkfield routinely. Increasingly, this method of observation is being used in Canada also. Patients are often provided a copy of the video footage of their blood. <<<<I don't know how much you know about Barrett, MD the owner of Quackwatch and DeviceWatch, but he is not well liked by the natural health community... He is considered 100% allopathic in his beliefs... You may read up on the lawsuits filed against him... http://www.quackpotwatch.org/quackpots/quackpots/barrett.htmhttp://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.htmlhttp://www.quackwatch.com/14Legal/dd_suit.htmlhttp://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=5983http://blogs.forbes.com/sciencebiz/2010/07/19/the-quackwatch-lawsuit-attacks-free-speech-and-science/http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100701/01441710039.shtmlhttp://www.healthfreedomlaw.com/He has written negatively about rife machines and negatively about Dr. Royal Rife... Yet we use the very machines he "Quacks" about... http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1 & query=rifeAnd how about Lyme disease and its treatments? Well he is "Quacking" about them also... At this link you can read about his Quacking about HBOT, CS, Rife, Hydrogen Peroxide injections, IV abx, herxing, Lyme transmission myths, support groups, LLMDs, testing labs, but appears to speak positively about the IDSA.. He talks about a few doctors whose patients died because of their treatments, yet does not mention one death caused by prescription medications that takes between 100,000 and 200,000 lives each year... He also talks about Dr. J having his license suspended for one year, this is totally incorrect.He makes frivolous claims like:Negative antibody testing after the first few weeks strongly suggests that the patient does not have Lyme disease.Many patients with chronic, nonspecific symptoms (such as headaches, fatigue, muscle aches, mental confusion, or sleep disturbances) mistakenly believe they have Lyme disease.Intravenous antibiotic therapy, when given appropriately, should not last more than a month. It should not be given unless oral antibiotic therapy has failed and persistent active infection has been demonstrated by culture, biopsy, or other bacteriologic technique.Malariotherapy, intracellular hyperthermia therapy, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, colloidal silver, dietary supplements, and herbs are not appropriate measures for treating Lyme disease. Doctors who recommend them should be avoided.http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lyme.htmlI used to think Quackwatch was something good, but then when it was pointed out to me it isn't friendly to the natural health community, I dug deeper and agreed... A few things this doc has right, most though is very allopathic slanted and not at all friendly to natural treatments.... Take care,Jim> > > > Subject: OT: Severity of Chronic, Long-term Lyme Disease> To: Lyme_and_Rife > Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 9:29 PM> > > Jim,> > I read a 400 page book written by a science journalist about people who've had Lyme Disease. She made it appear like basically everyone who gets Lyme Disease is debilitated within several years. Is it possible to have Lyme Disease for 20 years and still be functionable (not severely debilitated)? Is it possible we had it for all this time and it's finally breaking out? Some of our friends are severely questioning us. So we would invite anyone's input. The oldest 3 of us had positive Western Blot 1 1/2 years ago. A week ago we had live blood analysis with a Darkfield microscope.Five of us showed Lyme spirochetes. One of us did not get tested. I recall that the Western Blot indicated we have had the Lyme Disease at least 5 years. We don't know when we would have gotten it recently. It seems we got it 20 years ago on the farm with lots of ticks in PA. > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. > > -------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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