Zyto report (was: Heidi N's daughter's zyto)

May 22, 2009

Robin,

I am with you. I urgently feel the need for a workshop or training section

to guide us in reading, interpreting a Zyto report. I don't think that this

can wait until the next year's LIA conference. It doesn't need to be a

comprehensive lecture, but at least a class that covers some basic concept

of how to pinpoint the significant issues to stay focused. Hopefully some

way of the learning can be arranged soon.

Meanwhile, let me try to answer the question on your another post about two

numbers on Zyto report. For each scan, Zyto reads a person twice in order

to increase the accuracy of scanning. This is very similar to an online

registration process, where the web users are usually required to type in

his or her password twice: put in password and confirm password. So the web

system can compare and validate the data before storing it. In the scenario

of Zyto scan, the system reads a person once and send back the data, and

come back to read the second time and send back the data. So each stressor

has two numbers assigned to it, and they can be two totally different

numbers or the exact same number. MP told me that he usually looks at the

higher number of the two. I think that this is to make sure not to miss the

important stressors, as Zyto does pick them up at certain % of a second.

Tami, please correct me, if I am wrong. I am still trying to figure out how

to read the report, and hoping to have some discussion in the group to help

clarification for all.

Robin, we are facing Brucella and Borrelia, too. May I ask what the

recommended products are? Thank you.

Limin

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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 17:16

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: Heidi N's daughter's zyto

> I had my first zyto with MP. It was overwhelming. He's great.. the results

> are overwhelming if you dont have perspective or are prepared first. It

> would be helpful if we have some sort of document that provides

> perspective on the results. If we have one, please direct me!

>

> I have the gut of an autistic child and many genetic similarities. That

> must be how I made my way to this elist and I am so grateful for all of

> you. I have clostradias, streps, staph, psedonoma, many prolific yeasts,

> candidas and measles indicating as stressors.

>

> I have ammonia and sulphur also indicating.

>

> Also viral stressor that tends to inflame lining of brain showed up as

> well as brucella as highest pathogen stressor over Bb. Also EBV as a

> stressor.

>

> Detoxigenomic panel has indicated methylation, acetylation, glutathione

> polymorphisms as well. Shoemaker dreaded, chronic genes on top of that.

> Cytochrome p450 pathways that metabolize certain drugs are polymorphic as

> well. (I have been under the impression that this can lead to pyloluria in

> some folks.. using drugs that are not metabolized well.. if anyone can

> clear this up yay or nay, I would be most grateful.. I have extreme

> emotional reactions when I take some herbs, drugs and I am not sure if

> this is a pyloluric reaction or a herx).

>

> Before I use this tool for my children, who are not autistic, but might

> share some of my genetics and infections, I want to make sure my

> persepctive in healthy and stable. My instincts tell me to look at their

> guts and methylation first.

>

> Any insights and words of wisdom will be appreciated. You all are my

> mentors and I am in awe of you. You are amazing people.

>

> Currently on my way to ammonia mopping, cut cleaning, pathogen

> stablization until we are ready to work on them more intensely, the

> hopefully the yaskow 5 as indicated as beneficial by energetic testing and

> blood test results.

>

> I never dreamed my health would be so complicated. I was very active not

> so many years ago then something was the final straw and crashed me.

>

> Robin

>

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Re: PTSD, one of the psychologists we're working with for my kiddo

>> > >> > with

>> > >> > reactive attachment disorder said that a stressful pregnancy for

>> > >> > the

>> > >> > birthmother can be enough to re-wire the brain for PTSD. It

>> > >> > doesn't

>> > >> > have to be an abusive life after birth to trigger it. There are so

>> > >> > many

>> > >> > stress hormones in utero that it hardwires the little brain for

>> > >> > stress

>> > >> > and PTSD and doesn't give higher order thinking and coping skills

>> > >> > a

>> > >> > chance to develop.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > In addition to looking at the biological underpinnings (my kid is

>> > >> > definitely yeasty and appears to be high in mercury per a

>> > >> > porphyrins

>> > >> > test), we're also doing neurofeedback. That got him to sleep thru

>> > >> > the

>> > >> > night for the first time EVER at age 4.5. It took a while, but

>> > >> > it's

>> > >> > helping his brain to calm down so we can see what's really going

>> > >> > on.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Good luck.

>> > >> > Jill

>> > >> >

>> > >> > " Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground. "

>> > >> >

>> > >> > ________________________________

>> > >> > From: ambitionn01 <Ambitionn01@>

>> > >> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

>> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:09:24 PM

>> > >> > Subject: Heidi N's adopted

>> > >> > daughter's zyto

>> > >> >

>> > >> > My daughter's zyto was much more interesting than mine. The brain

>> > >> > picture for her was quite upsetting to look at. I think even MP

>> > >> > was a

>> > >> > bit shocked at what he saw. Her main stressors were Varicella

>> > >> > (chicken

>> > >> > pox vaccine), Epstein Barr, mercury, aluminun, and lead, with

>> > >> > allergies

>> > >> > to dairy and wheat. She did test positive for Epstein Barr already

>> > >> > by

>> > >> > her " autism " doctor. So, picking this up was a signal to me of

>> > >> > being

>> > >> > accurate. He told me that he can not determine if she has

>> > >> > pleomorphic

>> > >> > bacteria yet, due to these other stressors needing to be addressed

>> > >> > first. He told me her thymus is stressed and that she has

>> > >> > encephalitis.

>> > >> > He said her anxiety and PTSD were extremely high, and he seemed

>> > >> > very

>> > >> > concerned about it. She was placed in foster care at 1 1/2 years,

>> > >> > so I

>> > >> > wonder how one can have so much from abuse that happened while so

>> > >> > young. He also stated that she has very high testosterone. I told

>> > >> > him

>> > >> > that I read that its related to high mercury. This explains the

>> > >> > holes she puts in the walls. For a background on my daughter,

>> > >> > she is

>> > >> > very aggressive and defiant, but she switches from nice to mean

>> > >> > very

>> > >> > abruptly. He also states that she may be sleeping, but it's not

>> > >> > deep

>> > >> > enough to be real sleep.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > He put her on:

>> > >> > GABA+ by Neurogistics

>> > >> > PSY-stabil by Pekana

>> > >> >

>> > >> > He says he doesn't want to address her pathogens till he gets some

>> > >> > of

>> > >> > her brain swelling down. This really makes me realize that

>> > >> > aggressive

>> > >> > people really have a strong biological pull on their behavior. I

>> > >> > wonder

>> > >> > what the world would be like if we treated our prisoners for

>> > >> > aggression

>> > >> > with biomedical treatments.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Love and prayers,

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Heidi N

>> > >> >

>> > >>

>> > >

>> > > ------------------------------------

>> > >

May 22, 2009

Well you almost have it.

The number on the left is the FIRST scan done, without running it against supplements, herbs, etc.

The second number is a "prediction" as to what will happen IF you are given the supplement that the practitioner is running. So this is the bodies answer back..."if you give me burbur, this is what my response will be, etc." There would only be a second number if that practitioner were trying to determine supplements. If not..then you'd only have one set of numbers. (like on our LIAF scan)

The more you scan a person in a row...the less accurate the numbers will be. It's like me PINCHING you on the arm...the first time you will say OWWW really loud, the next time OW, the next time, ouch, the next time....will you knock it off. The body isn't sending the same stressor response back, the more tested. So it becomes less and less accurate.

Tami

Robin,I am with you. I urgently feel the need for a workshop or training section to guide us in reading, interpreting a Zyto report. I don't think that this can wait until the next year's LIA conference. It doesn't need to be a comprehensive lecture, but at least a class that covers some basic concept of how to pinpoint the significant issues to stay focused. Hopefully some way of the learning can be arranged soon.Meanwhile, let me try to answer the question on your another post about two numbers on Zyto report. For each scan, Zyto reads a person twice in order to increase the accuracy of scanning. This is very similar to an online registration process, where the web users are usually required to type in his or her password twice: put in password and confirm password. So the web system can compare and validate the data before storing it. In the scenario of Zyto scan, the system reads a person once and send back the data, and come back to read the second time and send back the data. So each stressor has two numbers assigned to it, and they can be two totally different numbers or the exact same number. MP told me that he usually looks at the higher number of the two. I think that this is to make sure not to miss the important stressors, as Zyto does pick them up at certain % of a second. Tami, please correct me, if I am wrong. I am still trying to figure out how to read the report, and hoping to have some discussion in the group to help clarification for all.Robin, we are facing Brucella and Borrelia, too. May I ask what the recommended products are? Thank you.Limin--------------------------------------------------From: "listspub" <listspub>Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 17:16To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Subject: Re: Heidi N's daughter's zyto> I had my first zyto with MP. It was overwhelming. He's great.. the results > are overwhelming if you dont have perspective or are prepared first. It > would be helpful if we have some sort of document that provides > perspective on the results. If we have one, please direct me!>> I have the gut of an autistic child and many genetic similarities. That > must be how I made my way to this elist and I am so grateful for all of > you. I have clostradias, streps, staph, psedonoma, many prolific yeasts, > candidas and measles indicating as stressors.>> I have ammonia and sulphur also indicating.>> Also viral stressor that tends to inflame lining of brain showed up as > well as brucella as highest pathogen stressor over Bb. Also EBV as a > stressor.>> Detoxigenomic panel has indicated methylation, acetylation, glutathione > polymorphisms as well. Shoemaker dreaded, chronic genes on top of that. > Cytochrome p450 pathways that metabolize certain drugs are polymorphic as > well. (I have been under the impression that this can lead to pyloluria in > some folks.. using drugs that are not metabolized well.. if anyone can > clear this up yay or nay, I would be most grateful.. I have extreme > emotional reactions when I take some herbs, drugs and I am not sure if > this is a pyloluric reaction or a herx).>> Before I use this tool for my children, who are not autistic, but might > share some of my genetics and infections, I want to make sure my > persepctive in healthy and stable. My instincts tell me to look at their > guts and methylation first.>> Any insights and words of wisdom will be appreciated. You all are my > mentors and I am in awe of you. You are amazing people.>> Currently on my way to ammonia mopping, cut cleaning, pathogen > stablization until we are ready to work on them more intensely, the > hopefully the yaskow 5 as indicated as beneficial by energetic testing and > blood test results.>> I never dreamed my health would be so complicated. I was very active not > so many years ago then something was the final straw and crashed me.>> Robin>>> >> > >> >>> > >> > Re: PTSD, one of the psychologists we're working with for my kiddo >> > >> > with>> > >> > reactive attachment disorder said that a stressful pregnancy for >> > >> > the>> > >> > birthmother can be enough to re-wire the brain for PTSD. It >> > >> > doesn't>> > >> > have to be an abusive life after birth to trigger it. There are so >> > >> > many>> > >> > stress hormones in utero that it hardwires the little brain for >> > >> > stress>> > >> > and PTSD and doesn't give higher order thinking and coping skills >> > >> > a>> > >> > chance to develop.>> > >> >>> > >> > In addition to looking at the biological underpinnings (my kid is>> > >> > definitely yeasty and appears to be high in mercury per a >> > >> > porphyrins>> > >> > test), we're also doing neurofeedback. That got him to sleep thru >> > >> > the>> > >> > night for the first time EVER at age 4.5. It took a while, but >> > >> > it's>> > >> > helping his brain to calm down so we can see what's really going >> > >> > on.>> > >> >>> > >> > Good luck.>> > >> > Jill>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > "Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.">> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > ________________________________>> > >> > From: ambitionn01 <Ambitionn01@>>> > >> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:09:24 PM>> > >> > Subject: Heidi N's adopted>> > >> > daughter's zyto>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > My daughter's zyto was much more interesting than mine. The brain>> > >> > picture for her was quite upsetting to look at. I think even MP >> > >> > was a>> > >> > bit shocked at what he saw. Her main stressors were Varicella >> > >> > (chicken>> > >> > pox vaccine), Epstein Barr, mercury, aluminun, and lead, with >> > >> > allergies>> > >> > to dairy and wheat. She did test positive for Epstein Barr already >> > >> > by>> > >> > her "autism" doctor. So, picking this up was a signal to me of >> > >> > being>> > >> > accurate. He told me that he can not determine if she has >> > >> > pleomorphic>> > >> > bacteria yet, due to these other stressors needing to be addressed>> > >> > first. He told me her thymus is stressed and that she has >> > >> > encephalitis.>> > >> > He said her anxiety and PTSD were extremely high, and he seemed >> > >> > very>> > >> > concerned about it. She was placed in foster care at 1 1/2 years, >> > >> > so I>> > >> > wonder how one can have so much from abuse that happened while so>> > >> > young. He also stated that she has very high testosterone. I told >> > >> > him>> > >> > that I read that its related to high mercury. This explains the>> > >> > holes she puts in the walls. For a background on my daughter, >> > >> > she is>> > >> > very aggressive and defiant, but she switches from nice to mean >> > >> > very>> > >> > abruptly. He also states that she may be sleeping, but it's not >> > >> > deep>> > >> > enough to be real sleep.>> > >> >>> > >> > He put her on:>> > >> > GABA+ by Neurogistics>> > >> > PSY-stabil by Pekana>> > >> >>> > >> > He says he doesn't want to address her pathogens till he gets some >> > >> > of>> > >> > her brain swelling down. This really makes me realize that >> > >> > aggressive>> > >> > people really have a strong biological pull on their behavior. I >> > >> > wonder>> > >> > what the world would be like if we treated our prisoners for >> > >> > aggression>> > >> > with biomedical treatments.>> > >> >>> > >> > Love and prayers,>> > >> >>> > >> > Heidi N>> > >> >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > ------------------------------------>> > >>> > >

May 25, 2009

I posted a new thing on interpreting the results yesterday. I hope that will explain it better.

Tami

Thanks Tami for that great explanation. I went back and looked at the numbers in the report in the Files and have some questions to find out whether I am understanding this right:1. If you have a negative in the first set of numbers, disregard? If you have a positive number in the first column (the higher the number the greater the stress of the pathogen?) and it becomes negative or a low positive (in other words improves) in the second column it means that the recommended supplement is effective for that pathogen (and the higher the negative you get the better it is?)2. Or does the negative or positive in the first column not matter and you are only looking at how big the number is and all it needs to do is become smaller or as near zero as possible?Can you explain what you know about the numbers?Gayatri> >> > >> >> >> > >> > Re: PTSD, one of the psychologists we're working with for my kiddo > >> > >> > with> >> > >> > reactive attachment disorder said that a stressful pregnancy for > >> > >> > the> >> > >> > birthmother can be enough to re-wire the brain for PTSD. It > >> > >> > doesn't> >> > >> > have to be an abusive life after birth to trigger it. There are so > >> > >> > many> >> > >> > stress hormones in utero that it hardwires the little brain for > >> > >> > stress> >> > >> > and PTSD and doesn't give higher order thinking and coping skills > >> > >> > a> >> > >> > chance to develop.> >> > >> >> >> > >> > In addition to looking at the biological underpinnings (my kid is> >> > >> > definitely yeasty and appears to be high in mercury per a > >> > >> > porphyrins> >> > >> > test), we're also doing neurofeedback. That got him to sleep thru > >> > >> > the> >> > >> > night for the first time EVER at age 4.5. It took a while, but > >> > >> > it's> >> > >> > helping his brain to calm down so we can see what's really going > >> > >> > on.> >> > >> >> >> > >> > Good luck.> >> > >> > Jill> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > "Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground."> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > ________________________________> >> > >> > From: ambitionn01 <Ambitionn01@>> >> > >> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > >> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:09:24 PM> >> > >> > Subject: Heidi N's adopted> >> > >> > daughter's zyto> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > My daughter's zyto was much more interesting than mine. The brain> >> > >> > picture for her was quite upsetting to look at. I think even MP > >> > >> > was a> >> > >> > bit shocked at what he saw. Her main stressors were Varicella > >> > >> > (chicken> >> > >> > pox vaccine), Epstein Barr, mercury, aluminun, and lead, with > >> > >> > allergies> >> > >> > to dairy and wheat. She did test positive for Epstein Barr already > >> > >> > by> >> > >> > her "autism" doctor. So, picking this up was a signal to me of > >> > >> > being> >> > >> > accurate. He told me that he can not determine if she has > >> > >> > pleomorphic> >> > >> > bacteria yet, due to these other stressors needing to be addressed> >> > >> > first. He told me her thymus is stressed and that she has > >> > >> > encephalitis.> >> > >> > He said her anxiety and PTSD were extremely high, and he seemed > >> > >> > very> >> > >> > concerned about it. She was placed in foster care at 1 1/2 years, > >> > >> > so I> >> > >> > wonder how one can have so much from abuse that happened while so> >> > >> > young. He also stated that she has very high testosterone. I told > >> > >> > him> >> > >> > that I read that its related to high mercury. This explains the> >> > >> > holes she puts in the walls. For a background on my daughter, > >> > >> > she is> >> > >> > very aggressive and defiant, but she switches from nice to mean > >> > >> > very> >> > >> > abruptly. He also states that she may be sleeping, but it's not > >> > >> > deep> >> > >> > enough to be real sleep.> >> > >> >> >> > >> > He put her on:> >> > >> > GABA+ by Neurogistics> >> > >> > PSY-stabil by Pekana> >> > >> >> >> > >> > He says he doesn't want to address her pathogens till he gets some > >> > >> > of> >> > >> > her brain swelling down. This really makes me realize that > >> > >> > aggressive> >> > >> > people really have a strong biological pull on their behavior. I > >> > >> > wonder> >> > >> > what the world would be like if we treated our prisoners for > >> > >> > aggression> >> > >> > with biomedical treatments.> >> > >> >> >> > >> > Love and prayers,> >> > >> >> >> > >> > Heidi N> >> > >> >> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > ------------------------------------> >> > >> >> > >

May 25, 2009

Thanks Tami - now I will go back and take a relook. Great clear explanation by

the way!!

Gayatri

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > Re: PTSD, one of the psychologists we're working with for my kiddo

> > >> > >> > with

> > >> > >> > reactive attachment disorder said that a stressful pregnancy for

> > >> > >> > the

> > >> > >> > birthmother can be enough to re-wire the brain for PTSD. It

> > >> > >> > doesn't

> > >> > >> > have to be an abusive life after birth to trigger it. There are so

> > >> > >> > many

> > >> > >> > stress hormones in utero that it hardwires the little brain for

> > >> > >> > stress

> > >> > >> > and PTSD and doesn't give higher order thinking and coping skills

> > >> > >> > a

> > >> > >> > chance to develop.

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > In addition to looking at the biological underpinnings (my kid is

> > >> > >> > definitely yeasty and appears to be high in mercury per a

> > >> > >> > porphyrins

> > >> > >> > test), we're also doing neurofeedback. That got him to sleep thru

> > >> > >> > the

> > >> > >> > night for the first time EVER at age 4.5. It took a while, but

> > >> > >> > it's

> > >> > >> > helping his brain to calm down so we can see what's really going

> > >> > >> > on.

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > Good luck.

> > >> > >> > Jill

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > " Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground. "

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > ________________________________

> > >> > >> > From: ambitionn01 <Ambitionn01@>

> > >> > >> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> > >> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:09:24 PM

> > >> > >> > Subject: Heidi N's adopted

> > >> > >> > daughter's zyto

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > My daughter's zyto was much more interesting than mine. The brain

> > >> > >> > picture for her was quite upsetting to look at. I think even MP

> > >> > >> > was a

> > >> > >> > bit shocked at what he saw. Her main stressors were Varicella

> > >> > >> > (chicken

> > >> > >> > pox vaccine), Epstein Barr, mercury, aluminun, and lead, with

> > >> > >> > allergies

> > >> > >> > to dairy and wheat. She did test positive for Epstein Barr already

> > >> > >> > by

> > >> > >> > her " autism " doctor. So, picking this up was a signal to me of

> > >> > >> > being

> > >> > >> > accurate. He told me that he can not determine if she has

> > >> > >> > pleomorphic

> > >> > >> > bacteria yet, due to these other stressors needing to be addressed

> > >> > >> > first. He told me her thymus is stressed and that she has

> > >> > >> > encephalitis.

> > >> > >> > He said her anxiety and PTSD were extremely high, and he seemed

> > >> > >> > very

> > >> > >> > concerned about it. She was placed in foster care at 1 1/2 years,

> > >> > >> > so I

> > >> > >> > wonder how one can have so much from abuse that happened while so

> > >> > >> > young. He also stated that she has very high testosterone. I told

> > >> > >> > him

> > >> > >> > that I read that its related to high mercury. This explains the

> > >> > >> > holes she puts in the walls. For a background on my daughter,

> > >> > >> > she is

> > >> > >> > very aggressive and defiant, but she switches from nice to mean

> > >> > >> > very

> > >> > >> > abruptly. He also states that she may be sleeping, but it's not

> > >> > >> > deep

> > >> > >> > enough to be real sleep.

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > He put her on:

> > >> > >> > GABA+ by Neurogistics

> > >> > >> > PSY-stabil by Pekana

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > He says he doesn't want to address her pathogens till he gets some

> > >> > >> > of

> > >> > >> > her brain swelling down. This really makes me realize that

> > >> > >> > aggressive

> > >> > >> > people really have a strong biological pull on their behavior. I

> > >> > >> > wonder

> > >> > >> > what the world would be like if we treated our prisoners for

> > >> > >> > aggression

> > >> > >> > with biomedical treatments.

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > Love and prayers,

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > Heidi N

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >

> > >> > > ------------------------------------

> > >> > >

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