Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Heidi, may I ask, if you told him anything BEFORE starting zyto scanning? I really need yours and everybody else's advice on this, please! I am thinking about doing zyto for my son, but it's available in our area in 2 "settings": #1 is pure zyto (as far as I understand office explanations) and it cost $275 per hour, and #2 is "inside" 1 hour consultation with Naturopathic Doctor and cost $150/hour as special pricing for kids. What worries me with cheaper version is that this ND requires tons of paperwork completed BEFORE appointment, he wants to know everything about my son. As person who never dealt with non-traditional (read - non-lab) testings, I wonder if his knowledge would interfere with his "objectivity" with zyto test's portion of consultation. I hope you understand what I am saying, it's kind of different to describe... I just know, that I would feel much better, if I could be sure that it's 100% objective tests, when nobody knows nothing about my son prior to testing and then I would hear something I already know (and I know a lot already)... For comparison, 2 years ago I found one MD's info (refferral) on Dr. K's web-site (he is not there any more). I was so happy! Finally, there is somebody in Florida, who knows more than average docs! Let me tell you, that FLorida is behind most states in non-traditional medicine. I was told, that this MD could even do ART testing and treat Lyme! So, I scheduled appointment (1.5 hours drive), packed all the supplements and we went... He spent almost 2 hours with us and among other things said, that my son DOESN'T have Lyme, just ADHD. But when we came home and I had more time to think about everything (and ask somebody, who know much more about Dr. K's methods), I realized, that ART testing was done incorrectly... My husband (who was that middle man for testing) kept saying that his muscle responses were very clear and he believed in what he felt etc. But I wasnt convinced, still not sire what to think about it... My son was never really tested for Lyme and in general he has much fewer problems than most of your kids here in this group, but we found tic under his skin (no blood) when he was 9 months old and he is PDD etc. So I don't want to feel the same way about zyto, I am trying to find a way to be able to really trust this testing! What confuses me about that MD's ART test, is that 2 years ago despite his PDD my son was extremely calm and obedient toddler ( he is 4 now), with very good attention span and a lot of patience (he sat an hour at that doctor's office waiting for him!). But about 3 months ago along with great improvements in his health he started showing ADHD symptoms... SO did that test really tell the truth about Lme too? Otherwise how did that doc know about ADHD? And I remember his words about Lyme, he sadi that my son "is not sick enough to have Lyme", and also he dismissed an idea about congenital transmission of Lyme... so confusing... Sorry for so long post and for my English. It's been hard for me to phrase my thoughts and doubts even in Russian... Dina. Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dina, Tami is the more suitable person to answer your questions, as she just went to Zyto training workshop and has better knowledge on this subject than most of us. But I will chime in my two cents... I actually prefer that the practitioners review the papers/labs and discuss with me before scanning my child with Zyto. Zyto has a huge database; it is impossible to scan all data points at one setting. Also, you do not want to expose the child with "abnormality" frequencies unnecessarily. Zyto is not a diagnostic tool, but it provides a convenient, cost-effective, instant way to understand the effectiveness of current treatments and guide further treatments. If you work with a practitioner/ doctor, whom you have not worked with before, it is beneficial to help the person understand what the main concerned areas are, so s/he can select appropriate panels/programs to run on the Zyto. Each scan will give you a snap shot of the stressed areas/organs of your system, conditions/susceptibility for health issues, what infections stress the system at that moment, etc. To get a better picture, one would need to put several snap shots together over time to consider. My son did the scan with two separate practitioners. Our first scan was done with the doctor who has been treating my son following Dr. LC's herbal and LED protocol since summer 2007. He knows my son's case well, so I didn't provide any more information prior to our scan. With MP, whom I had not worked with before, I provided him my son's labs, supplementation plan & Yasko nutrigenomic panel testing result (because MP knows Yasko protocol well), a summary of my son's health issues, my concerns, and significant events occurring in my son's life that affected his health. I appreciated that MP spent time to review our case and consulted with a Lyme doctor prior to our appointment. He is usually quite busy and has no time to read extensive paperwork. We were lucky to catch him on one Saturday when he had some leisure to do so. MP and I tried to be as complete as possible on our first scan with me, knowing the history of my son's health issues. The good thing is that Zyto picked up several conditions that I were not aware of. The downside is that our report was very lengthy, overwhelming, so I had a hard time determine what the primary, immediate issues were to address. Zyto reflects the severity of body stressors with some numbers, but it is still up to the practitioners to interpret. So, not all Zyto are the same. The practitioners' experience with using Zyto and the treatment modalities and tools they use do matter. Dina, my advice to you is this: Look for a practitioner who is both savvy in using Zyto and well-versed in different treatment modalities and tools, and do not limit yourself with geographic boundary. The beauty of Zyto technology lies on its virtual clinic. This means that you can leverage Zyto scan online and receive consultation over phone, and no traveling is needed. Limin From: Dina Fedosenko Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 21:58 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Heidi, may I ask, if you told him anything BEFORE starting zyto scanning? I really need yours and everybody else's advice on this, please! I am thinking about doing zyto for my son, but it's available in our area in 2 "settings": #1 is pure zyto (as far as I understand office explanations) and it cost $275 per hour, and #2 is "inside" 1 hour consultation with Naturopathic Doctor and cost $150/hour as special pricing for kids. What worries me with cheaper version is that this ND requires tons of paperwork completed BEFORE appointment, he wants to know everything about my son. As person who never dealt with non-traditional (read - non-lab) testings, I wonder if his knowledge would interfere with his "objectivity" with zyto test's portion of consultation. I hope you understand what I am saying, it's kind of different to describe... I just know, that I would feel much better, if I could be sure that it's 100% objective tests, when nobody knows nothing about my son prior to testing and then I would hear something I already know (and I know a lot already)... For comparison, 2 years ago I found one MD's info (refferral) on Dr. K's web-site (he is not there any more). I was so happy! Finally, there is somebody in Florida, who knows more than average docs! Let me tell you, that FLorida is behind most states in non-traditional medicine. I was told, that this MD could even do ART testing and treat Lyme! So, I scheduled appointment (1.5 hours drive), packed all the supplements and we went... He spent almost 2 hours with us and among other things said, that my son DOESN'T have Lyme, just ADHD. But when we came home and I had more time to think about everything (and ask somebody, who know much more about Dr. K's methods), I realized, that ART testing was done incorrectly... My husband (who was that middle man for testing) kept saying that his muscle responses were very clear and he believed in what he felt etc. But I wasnt convinced, still not sire what to think about it... My son was never really tested for Lyme and in general he has much fewer problems than most of your kids here in this group, but we found tic under his skin (no blood) when he was 9 months old and he is PDD etc. So I don't want to feel the same way about zyto, I am trying to find a way to be able to really trust this testing! What confuses me about that MD's ART test, is that 2 years ago despite his PDD my son was extremely calm and obedient toddler ( he is 4 now), with very good attention span and a lot of patience (he sat an hour at that doctor's office waiting for him!). But about 3 months ago along with great improvements in his health he started showing ADHD symptoms... SO did that test really tell the truth about Lme too? Otherwise how did that doc know about ADHD? And I remember his words about Lyme, he sadi that my son "is not sick enough to have Lyme", and also he dismissed an idea about congenital transmission of Lyme... so confusing... Sorry for so long post and for my English. It's been hard for me to phrase my thoughts and doubts even in Russian... Dina. Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Tami, Thank you very much for the update and explanation. You are getting me all excited now. Can't wait to hear what products work well for the majority of our kids! Limin From: TamiDuncan Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 09:28 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Well the Zyto is "like" muscle testing BUT without the subjectiveness to it. Meaning...the person who is running the scan, if they have prior knowledge of the diagnosis or thoughts or beliefs as to what is going on with the child...this will NOT affect the results. But in standard muscle testing, the pre-conceived thoughts COULD affect the result. So it doesn't really matter if the doc has a history or not. BUT by taking the history it may help lead that doctor as to what scans to do. I am working on some very interesting things with the Zyto right now. This is the beauty of having it here, testing kids and families on it. I have access to some pretty great products that I have uploaded and have tested some on. Stay tuned because there is one particular product that seems to be clearing ALL lyme and co-infections AND the majority of food allergies all at once. But it's too soon to announce. But the Zyto is helping me at least scan and look at this data, it's a blessing. Also..just to add in a little side note about the Zyto. By me doing these scans, puts me a bit out on the limb, since I'm not a doctor. We almost didn't get the equipment because of this. Zyto only sells to practitioners. The distributor we purchased from is now working for Zyto corporate and I think if I tried to buy one today, they would refuse me. At the time when Rita brought up the idea, I played around with it for a few months, trying to decide what to do. We seemed to have NO positive support from ANY doctor. So we put it on hold. Rita said..lets just pray about it and then see what happens. About 2 weeks later, the Zyto folks offered me an incredible deal. A huge savings. We then moved forward. I hope that this group will help make the Zyto project a success. Take care, Tami Dina, Tami is the more suitable person to answer your questions, as she just went to Zyto training workshop and has better knowledge on this subject than most of us. But I will chime in my two cents... I actually prefer that the practitioners review the papers/labs and discuss with me before scanning my child with Zyto. Zyto has a huge database; it is impossible to scan all data points at one setting. Also, you do not want to expose the child with "abnormality" frequencies unnecessarily. Zyto is not a diagnostic tool, but it provides a convenient, cost-effective, instant way to understand the effectiveness of current treatments and guide further treatments. If you work with a practitioner/ doctor, whom you have not worked with before, it is beneficial to help the person understand what the main concerned areas are, so s/he can select appropriate panels/programs to run on the Zyto. Each scan will give you a snap shot of the stressed areas/organs of your system, conditions/susceptibility for health issues, what infections stress the system at that moment, etc. To get a better picture, one would need to put several snap shots together over time to consider. My son did the scan with two separate practitioners. Our first scan was done with the doctor who has been treating my son following Dr. LC's herbal and LED protocol since summer 2007. He knows my son's case well, so I didn't provide any more information prior to our scan. With MP, whom I had not worked with before, I provided him my son's labs, supplementation plan & Yasko nutrigenomic panel testing result (because MP knows Yasko protocol well), a summary of my son's health issues, my concerns, and significant events occurring in my son's life that affected his health. I appreciated that MP spent time to review our case and consulted with a Lyme doctor prior to our appointment. He is usually quite busy and has no time to read extensive paperwork. We were lucky to catch him on one Saturday when he had some leisure to do so. MP and I tried to be as complete as possible on our first scan with me, knowing the history of my son's health issues. The good thing is that Zyto picked up several conditions that I were not aware of. The downside is that our report was very lengthy, overwhelming, so I had a hard time determine what the primary, immediate issues were to address. Zyto reflects the severity of body stressors with some numbers, but it is still up to the practitioners to interpret. So, not all Zyto are the same. The practitioners' experience with using Zyto and the treatment modalities and tools they use do matter. Dina, my advice to you is this: Look for a practitioner who is both savvy in using Zyto and well-versed in different treatment modalities and tools, and do not limit yourself with geographic boundary. The beauty of Zyto technology lies on its virtual clinic. This means that you can leverage Zyto scan online and receive consultation over phone, and no traveling is needed. Limin From: Dina Fedosenko Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 21:58 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Heidi, may I ask, if you told him anything BEFORE starting zyto scanning? I really need yours and everybody else's advice on this, please! I am thinking about doing zyto for my son, but it's available in our area in 2 "settings": #1 is pure zyto (as far as I understand office explanations) and it cost $275 per hour, and #2 is "inside" 1 hour consultation with Naturopathic Doctor and cost $150/hour as special pricing for kids. What worries me with cheaper version is that this ND requires tons of paperwork completed BEFORE appointment, he wants to know everything about my son. As person who never dealt with non-traditional (read - non-lab) testings, I wonder if his knowledge would interfere with his "objectivity" with zyto test's portion of consultation. I hope you understand what I am saying, it's kind of different to describe... I just know, that I would feel much better, if I could be sure that it's 100% objective tests, when nobody knows nothing about my son prior to testing and then I would hear something I already know (and I know a lot already)... For comparison, 2 years ago I found one MD's info (refferral) on Dr. K's web-site (he is not there any more). I was so happy! Finally, there is somebody in Florida, who knows more than average docs! Let me tell you, that FLorida is behind most states in non-traditional medicine. I was told, that this MD could even do ART testing and treat Lyme! So, I scheduled appointment (1.5 hours drive), packed all the supplements and we went... He spent almost 2 hours with us and among other things said, that my son DOESN'T have Lyme, just ADHD. But when we came home and I had more time to think about everything (and ask somebody, who know much more about Dr. K's methods), I realized, that ART testing was done incorrectly... My husband (who was that middle man for testing) kept saying that his muscle responses were very clear and he believed in what he felt etc. But I wasnt convinced, still not sire what to think about it... My son was never really tested for Lyme and in general he has much fewer problems than most of your kids here in this group, but we found tic under his skin (no blood) when he was 9 months old and he is PDD etc. So I don't want to feel the same way about zyto, I am trying to find a way to be able to really trust this testing! What confuses me about that MD's ART test, is that 2 years ago despite his PDD my son was extremely calm and obedient toddler ( he is 4 now), with very good attention span and a lot of patience (he sat an hour at that doctor's office waiting for him!). But about 3 months ago along with great improvements in his health he started showing ADHD symptoms... SO did that test really tell the truth about Lme too? Otherwise how did that doc know about ADHD? And I remember his words about Lyme, he sadi that my son "is not sick enough to have Lyme", and also he dismissed an idea about congenital transmission of Lyme... so confusing... Sorry for so long post and for my English. It's been hard for me to phrase my thoughts and doubts even in Russian... Dina. Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I have done Zyto a few times with different people. I was a bit disappointed about this:My son had an active oral herpes outbreak going on and the Zyto did not catch it even though I mentionedhe is a herpes kid and he was screened for it.Just looking at him it was obvious he had a mouthful of herpes.I think that overall it gives a good picture  but I am not so sure aboutthe specific details.  I am still using it and will continue to do so, but I dont think its perfect. Its something youcan do in conjunction with physical exam, lab reports etc.Or may be I just have terrible luck...PramilaTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:01:48 AMSubject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Thank you, Limin, for such detailed answer, because I was about to do the opposite, to hide some facts I know about in order to see if this practitioner and his Zyto mashine are good enough to pick those facts themselves.. . it seems, that it's not good idea though...  You say "do not limit yourself with geographic boundary. The beauty of Zyto technology lies on its virtual clinic. This means that you can leverage Zyto scan online and receive consultation over phone, and no traveling is needed". But I still need access to Zyto cradle to do that or not? I am confused... And do you have anybody in mind, some practitioner you could recommend?  Thanks a lot, Dina.     [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> ************ **Recession- proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dina, You can purchase the Zyto hand cradle under the name of "LIA Foundation". Look for Tami's previous posts on Zyto project for details. The practitioners usually sell it around $150 - 200 per piece. Unless you want to look for a second-hand hand cradle, otherwise to obtain a brand new one, LIA has the best deal with Zyto for its members in this group. To use the virtual clinic, the Internet access is required. You plug in the hand cradle onto your computer to connect to the virtual clinic, where you "meet" with the person who run Zyto online. You talk to the person over phone. If the person "grant" you the access, you will be viewing the same Zyto screen on your own computer as the one s/he is reviewing. And, you can actually see that s/he moves the cursor on the screen to click and select what panels/programs to run. Once the scan is done, the virtual clinic can email you the result immediately. I can email you offline about the doctors who use Zyto, for you to consider. Tami also works with a doctor, who is able to provide a comprehensive Zyto report and consultation, if needed. I don't know about the details. I think she will provide another update on this, when she is ready to do so, or upon requests. I also scheduled an appointment with Tami to scan the basic report on organ stressors and tracking microbes. The Foundation cannot suggest treatments or interpret Zyto reports. But, this can help me to understand if our current treatments are working. Limin From: Dina Fedosenko Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:01 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Thank you, Limin, for such detailed answer, because I was about to do the opposite, to hide some facts I know about in order to see if this practitioner and his Zyto mashine are good enough to pick those facts themselves... it seems, that it's not good idea though... You say "do not limit yourself with geographic boundary. The beauty of Zyto technology lies on its virtual clinic. This means that you can leverage Zyto scan online and receive consultation over phone, and no traveling is needed". But I still need access to Zyto cradle to do that or not? I am confused... And do you have anybody in mind, some practitioner you could recommend? Thanks a lot, Dina. Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Pramila, We have a different experience. I thought I'd also share. Our scan with MP picked up CMV, mycoplasma, roundworms, and a surprise to me - Kryptopyrroluria. I thought to myself that my son does not have KPU, because this is a inherited condition, and I did a new-born screening on him at birth - negative. This scan was done on one Saturday, two days before our appointment with DK. At our appointment with DK on Monday, he ART my son, and KPU is positive. DK explained to me that KPU can be acquired due to body stress and infections. We will be doing a lab test to confirm. Around the time of scanning, my son was coughing excessively. I think that treating Lyme (I increased the dosage of Lyme herbs a week prior to the scan) caused the flair-up of CMV and mycoplasma in our case. DK mentions that one can have mycoplasma but no Lyme, but one cannot only have Lyme and no mycoplasma. There seems to be some relationship between these two pathogens. A few weeks later our CSA test result came back. The stool sample was collected one week after our scan with MP. My son was tested via Metamatrix positive for Strongyloides sp. (roundworms). This really gave me some Goosebumps. Limin From: Pramila Srinivasan Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:10 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT I have done Zyto a few times with different people. I was a bit disappointed about this: My son had an active oral herpes outbreak going on and the Zyto did not catch it even though I mentioned he is a herpes kid and he was screened for it. Just looking at him it was obvious he had a mouthful of herpes. I think that overall it gives a good picture but I am not so sure about the specific details. I am still using it and will continue to do so, but I dont think its perfect. Its something you can do in conjunction with physical exam, lab reports etc. Or may be I just have terrible luck... Pramila To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:01:48 AMSubject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Thank you, Limin, for such detailed answer, because I was about to do the opposite, to hide some facts I know about in order to see if this practitioner and his Zyto mashine are good enough to pick those facts themselves.. . it seems, that it's not good idea though... You say "do not limit yourself with geographic boundary. The beauty of Zyto technology lies on its virtual clinic. This means that you can leverage Zyto scan online and receive consultation over phone, and no traveling is needed". But I still need access to Zyto cradle to do that or not? I am confused... And do you have anybody in mind, some practitioner you could recommend? Thanks a lot, Dina. [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> ************ **Recession- proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Yes, Limin, please, e-mail me privately about those doctors, so I could consider all the options. I am really tight on money right now (as probably all of us are) and trying to research everything before spending, so I would get the most reault from my money. I was considering traveling to see some of Dr. K's followers, like Dr. A, but had to put this idea on hold for now... Thanks for all the support! Dina. Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I forgot to also mention this: What things can be picked up by Zyto scan is somehow depended on what panels/programs a practitioner choose to run. This is why providing information to your doctor is useful. The information will not affect objectivity of machine scan, as Tami illustrated so well. But the information can help your doctor to be more targeting. Limin From: Limin Tseng Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:42 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Pramila, We have a different experience. I thought I'd also share. Our scan with MP picked up CMV, mycoplasma, roundworms, and a surprise to me - Kryptopyrroluria. I thought to myself that my son does not have KPU, because this is a inherited condition, and I did a new-born screening on him at birth - negative. This scan was done on one Saturday, two days before our appointment with DK. At our appointment with DK on Monday, he ART my son, and KPU is positive. DK explained to me that KPU can be acquired due to body stress and infections. We will be doing a lab test to confirm. Around the time of scanning, my son was coughing excessively. I think that treating Lyme (I increased the dosage of Lyme herbs a week prior to the scan) caused the flair-up of CMV and mycoplasma in our case. DK mentions that one can have mycoplasma but no Lyme, but one cannot only have Lyme and no mycoplasma. There seems to be some relationship between these two pathogens. A few weeks later our CSA test result came back. The stool sample was collected one week after our scan with MP. My son was tested via Metamatrix positive for Strongyloides sp. (roundworms). This really gave me some Goosebumps. Limin From: Pramila Srinivasan Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:10 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT I have done Zyto a few times with different people. I was a bit disappointed about this: My son had an active oral herpes outbreak going on and the Zyto did not catch it even though I mentioned he is a herpes kid and he was screened for it. Just looking at him it was obvious he had a mouthful of herpes. I think that overall it gives a good picture but I am not so sure about the specific details. I am still using it and will continue to do so, but I dont think its perfect. Its something you can do in conjunction with physical exam, lab reports etc. Or may be I just have terrible luck... Pramila To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:01:48 AMSubject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Thank you, Limin, for such detailed answer, because I was about to do the opposite, to hide some facts I know about in order to see if this practitioner and his Zyto mashine are good enough to pick those facts themselves.. . it seems, that it's not good idea though... You say "do not limit yourself with geographic boundary. The beauty of Zyto technology lies on its virtual clinic. This means that you can leverage Zyto scan online and receive consultation over phone, and no traveling is needed". But I still need access to Zyto cradle to do that or not? I am confused... And do you have anybody in mind, some practitioner you could recommend? Thanks a lot, Dina. [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> ************ **Recession- proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Sure, I know it has been successful for many cases. Just like any test, i guess its notperfect. Just wanted to mention... I do continue to do Zyto and will continue...PramilaTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:48:50 AMSubject: Re: Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT I forgot to also mention this: What things can be picked up by Zyto scan is somehow depended on what panels/programs a practitioner choose to run. This is why providing information to your doctor is useful. The information will not affect objectivity of machine scan, as Tami illustrated so well. But the information can help your doctor to be more targeting.  Limin  From: Limin Tseng Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:42 To: BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism @yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Pramila,  We have a different experience. I thought I'd also share.  Our scan with MP picked up CMV, mycoplasma, roundworms, and a surprise to me - Kryptopyrroluria. I thought to myself that my son does not have KPU, because this is a inherited condition, and I did a new-born screening on him at birth - negative. This scan was done on one Saturday, two days before our appointment with DK. At our appointment with DK on Monday, he ART my son, and KPU is positive. DK explained to me that KPU can be acquired due to body stress and infections. We will be doing a lab test to confirm.  Around the time of scanning, my son was coughing excessively. I think that treating Lyme (I increased the dosage of Lyme herbs a week prior to the scan) caused the flair-up of CMV and mycoplasma in our case. DK mentions that one can have mycoplasma but no Lyme, but one cannot only have Lyme and no mycoplasma. There seems to be some relationship between these two pathogens.  A few weeks later our CSA test result came back. The stool sample was collected one week after our scan with MP. My son was tested via Metamatrix positive for Strongyloides sp. (roundworms) . This really gave me some Goosebumps.  Limin  From: Pramila Srinivasan Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:10 To: BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism @yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT I have done Zyto a few times with different people. I was a bit disappointed about this: My son had an active oral herpes outbreak going on and the Zyto did not catch it even though I mentioned he is a herpes kid and he was screened for it. Just looking at him it was obvious he had a mouthful of herpes. I think that overall it gives a good picture  but I am not so sure about the specific details.  I am still using it and will continue to do so, but I dont think its perfect. Its something you can do in conjunction with physical exam, lab reports etc. Or may be I just have terrible luck... Pramila From: Dina Fedosenko <fdina77hotmail (DOT) com>To: BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism @yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:01:48 AMSubject: Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: Heidi N's Zyto - long! may be OT Thank you, Limin, for such detailed answer, because I was about to do the opposite, to hide some facts I know about in order to see if this practitioner and his Zyto mashine are good enough to pick those facts themselves.. . it seems, that it's not good idea though...  You say "do not limit yourself with geographic boundary. The beauty of Zyto technology lies on its virtual clinic. This means that you can leverage Zyto scan online and receive consultation over phone, and no traveling is needed". But I still need access to Zyto cradle to do that or not? I am confused... And do you have anybody in mind, some practitioner you could recommend?  Thanks a lot, Dina.     [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: Heidi N's Zyto Hmm, he did several scans, and each maybe took a minute. Not really sure because we were jabbering away, swapping knowledge.Love and prayers,Heidi N>> Very interesting Heidi.> > How long does your hand have to be on the zyto for it to read? I would love > to do this with my son but I can't see him sitting there with his hand on > that thing voluntarily for long> > Kerrie> ************ **Recession- proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > (http://travel. aol.com/travel- ideas/domestic/ national- tourism-week? ncid=emlcntustra v00000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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