Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 The only turly natural preservative .... from the view of being unaltered in any way is salt and I don't recommend that for cosmetics because salt can be very drying and I am not aware of any recommendations of amounts. <G> Look into Germaben II and Phenonip. Dee ·´¯`·.. ><((((º> ·´¯`·... ><((((º> ·´¯ =^..^= ` ·.. ><((((º> Natural Preservatives Does anyone use natural preservatives only for their water based creams or lotions? Would someone be willing to share any advice or recipes where they can be unrefrigerated for a time? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I guess it is a matter of semantics. In a matter of speaming the oils, butters etc... can be considered just as much a " chemical " as citric acid- or maybe parabens. TO a chemist or biologist I guess. I think people (some) get too wound up about this " natural " topic. I know of SEVERAL small compounders that cite their products as all natural but use a preservative like G2, or formaldehyde donor preservatives , or parabens (which I use) or sodium benzoate (which I also use) or Rosemary Oloeresin Extract (I use) and Grapeseed Extract (don't use)and when I read the label I understand where they are coming from . I dont' necsessarily think anyone is stupid- I say if you , or any consumer don't like , " GSE, " , Parabens , etc. etc.. then you will have to lok for products that don't contain the " X " ingredient you /they have a problem with . But it is hard to have shelp life without SOMETHING to kill the critters and fungi. Personally we make VERY SMALL batches on certain items and put it on the label- and do not use a preservative. Our customers know that and know how to store and handle and we tell them that if stuff grows throw it out (however sometimes stuff can grow and the customer does not know it which is not good) BUT SOME CUTSOMERS DO NOT WANT antything in their lotions and creams except the shea, emu oil , etc... and want NO PRESERVATIVES. we will give it to them with the understanding " caveat emptor " . Anyway I say follow good manufacturing practices (sterilize, clean work environment etc.) and LABEL correctly, and INFORM your customer. MEH www.chemistryconnection.net > > > > > In researching preserevative effectiveness, the LEAST reliable sources > > for information are websites that are either selling products or have > > links to advertisers selling products. They are not an objective > > source for accurate scientific information. > > > > If a manufacturer or vendor of preservative information cannot provide > > independent verifiable challenge test data of effectiveness, you will > > be wise to question the accuracy of any information they provide. > > > > This is as volatile a subject as politics! There was almost an > eruption on another group when a pro-GSE person posted the > naturalingredient.org link to 'prove' that GSE worked as claimed. She > wouldn't hear the numerous published peer-reviewed papers that > questioned the manufacturer's own claims. > > With the internet, we have such great free access to a world of > legitimate research, there is no reason to fall for the hype. > > But why and how can there still be web-sites selling body care that > still claim not to use 'chemicals?' Are people just stupid, or worse, > do they think their customer is stupid? > > Gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I think many of these people are well-intentioned. But it is easy for the home crafter or someone not involved with the cosmetics industry to fall for the hype. After all, even very large companies use the " all natural " tag when selling. Like Aubrey organics and Burt's Bees. Not many people know about their history of being fined by the FDA. They also don't understand that a large company with their own labs and team of attorney's can get away with paying an occasional fine for not revealing the fact that their products do in fact contain chemical preservatives, but a home crafter that creates a product that causes a problem is going to pay a very high price. $15,000 or $20,000 is nothing to companies of that size. Joanne Cosmeticinfo wrote: But why and how can there still be web-sites selling body care that still claim not to use 'chemicals?' Are people just stupid, or worse, do they think their customer is stupid? Gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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