Re: OT- need answers asap

[Guest guest]

Hi ,You may really low on electrolytes.  Do you have some EmergenC?  If so, you might try taking 5-7 packets throughout the day.   If not, what about Trace Minerals or Azomite?  At the very, very least: sea salt.

Are you taking 33 drops all at once or throughout the day? :-)

 

I have been really sick bad herx last week with levaquin for bart I am pulsing on it  , 10 days on 10 days off and my last day was last Friday

so I am off of it till 8/16  my stomache got all torn up from using welchol and or magnesium I was up to 33 drops on mms1 and when I got really sick w/ stomache issues on Sunday I had to cut back today I havnt had a drop of mms1 or Doxy (yesterday either) cant stomache them

today I am just fell  'Off' .. I feel like Im going to pass out .. very nauseaus am taking charcoal and a little bit of mag .. but it dosnt seem to be helpingIm also very flushed  and break out in hot sweats

any ideas ? have no appetite only can eat bananas " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

[Guest guest]

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I'm wondering also if you might be really low on electrolytes. Once I had so much detox and removal that I had taken out all of my electro's too (also felt like I may pass out). I went to health food store and got electrolyte packets. Needless to say, it saved the day. I drank two packets in 10 oz water, and 2 bottles of water. Drink the electro's helps the diarrheacalm down too. Then I ate baby food, and took about 200 billion CFU's of probiotics.

I soon realized that treating bart was making the babs come out. This was now a very big problem ie....night and sometimes day sweats, chills, brain floating in a fish bowl feeling, fear/anxiety thing. I immediately started hepapro artemisia on a way super low dose (opened the capsule and poured about 1/4 of a 200mg capsule in some water. Herxed within 4 hours and waited until the next day to do it again. Took about a week to get to 1/4 capsule in morning and 1/4 capsule at night (not too bad of herxes this way). I have recently learned that it is important to take either about 3 drops of GSE grapefruit seed oil or 1/2 a cup of grapefruit juice at least a couple hours away from the artie. This prevents the artie from getting resistant.

Hope this helps!

Shauna

I have been really sick bad herx last week with levaquin for bart I am pulsing on it , 10 days on 10 days off and my last day was last Friday so I am off of it till 8/16 my stomache got all torn up from using welchol and or magnesium I was up to 33 drops on mms1 and when I got really sick w/ stomache issues on Sunday I had to cut back today I havnt had a drop of mms1 or Doxy (yesterday either) cant stomache them today I am just fell 'Off' .. I feel like Im going to pass out .. very nauseaus am taking charcoal and a little bit of mag .. but it dosnt seem to be helpingIm also very flushed and break out in hot sweats any ideas ? have no appetite only can eat bananas"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."

[Guest guest]

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I am so sorry you are this ill. Sounds like you are having one devil of a herx. If I were you, I would stop all the pathogen killing treatments until I was better, and would not start the levaquin until I'd had a few days rest from the herxing. In the meantime, drink lots and lots of pure water. Add lemon if you like. Do coffee enemas, at least one per day, and a lot of probiotics to keep your gut healthy.

If you have developed a herx protocol for yourself, this is the time to employ it.

When you start back on the MMS, you might want to consider taking less. It works, but there are side effects, particularly to the gut area. I have found I cannot take much of it per day. Any more than 6 drops total and I am in gut agony, nauseous, and have even thrown up from it. Sounds like you could take more than that, but might need to adjust to a lower amount.

Good luck,

To: lyme rife <Lyme_and_Rife >Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 4:26:14 PMSubject: OT- need answers asap

I have been really sick bad herx last week with levaquin for bart I am pulsing on it , 10 days on 10 days off and my last day was last Friday so I am off of it till 8/16 my stomache got all torn up from using welchol and or magnesium I was up to 33 drops on mms1 and when I got really sick w/ stomache issues on Sunday I had to cut back today I havnt had a drop of mms1 or Doxy (yesterday either) cant stomache them today I am just fell 'Off' .. I feel like Im going to pass out .. very nauseaus am taking charcoal and a little bit of mag .. but it dosnt seem to be helpingIm also very flushed and break out in hot sweats any ideas ? have no appetite only can eat bananas"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sorry you are having such a tough time...

I don't believe magnesium can cause stomach issues...

It sounds like you need a break from everything for several days... Then

reintroduce everything by starting low and scaling up... Both Doxy and MMS1 are

killers, so you may be killing to much too quickly..

Eat whatever you can.... Drink tonz of water, this will flush you out...

Always remember when you are taking things, you don't want to get ill from

anything.. If you do, kick back for a few days... We don't want to kill too many

too quickly, this will equal a tough herx...

Jim

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> I have been really sick bad herx last week with levaquin for bart

> I am pulsing on it  , 10 days on 10 days off and my last day was last Friday

> so I am off of it till 8/16

>

>  my stomache got all torn up from using welchol and or magnesium

> I was up to 33 drops on mms1

> and when I got really sick w/ stomache issues on Sunday

> I had to cut back

> today I havnt had a drop of mms1 or Doxy (yesterday either) cant stomache them

>

> today I am just fell  'Off' .. I feel like Im going to pass out .. very

nauseaus

> am taking charcoal and a little bit of mag .. but it dosnt seem to be helping

> Im also very flushed  and break out in hot sweats

>

> any ideas ?

> have no appetite only can eat bananas

>

>

>

> " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

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[Guest guest]

I agree with Jim - take a break, but maybe try the electrolytes (considering the situation).Magnesium causes tons of stomach gurgling for me - if I take too much at a time.  Once the gurgling starts, it won't stop until the next day.  Very uncomfortable, lots of gas, and many trips to the bathroom.

Jim you are fortunate - if this hasn't happened to you. :-)

 

Hi ,

Sorry you are having such a tough time...

I don't believe magnesium can cause stomach issues...

It sounds like you need a break from everything for several days... Then reintroduce everything by starting low and scaling up... Both Doxy and MMS1 are killers, so you may be killing to much too quickly..

Eat whatever you can.... Drink tonz of water, this will flush you out...

Always remember when you are taking things, you don't want to get ill from anything.. If you do, kick back for a few days... We don't want to kill too many too quickly, this will equal a tough herx...

Jim

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> I have been really sick bad herx last week with levaquin for bart

> I am pulsing on it  , 10 days on 10 days off and my last day was last Friday

> so I am off of it till 8/16

>

>  my stomache got all torn up from using welchol and or magnesium

> I was up to 33 drops on mms1

> and when I got really sick w/ stomache issues on Sunday

> I had to cut back

> today I havnt had a drop of mms1 or Doxy (yesterday either) cant stomache them

>

> today I am just fell  'Off' .. I feel like Im going to pass out .. very nauseaus

> am taking charcoal and a little bit of mag .. but it dosnt seem to be helping

> Im also very flushed  and break out in hot sweats

>

> any ideas ?

> have no appetite only can eat bananas

>

>

>

> " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yeah, magnesium works like Vit C in that it will cause stomach upset and

diarrhea if taking too much. Many docs have said to reduce the dose to 2/3 of

what causes those issues and that's your daily dose.

When starting treatment you should go very slowly and work up to being able to

handle all the drugs. If you are in a constant herx that's not good for the

body either! I totally empathize as I was so sick for the first several years!

For me, once I concentrated on killing some candida, I was able to go up on my

ABX and not herx hardly at all.

Burbur and parsley from nutramedix were absolutely priceless for me! you can

take 10 drops of them every 10 minutes until the herx clears. If the herx isn't

that bad then after doing this consistently for awhile (sometimes will take 1-2

hrs) then things are sooo much better! Also, maybe you can try taking milk

thistle several times a day...chlorella is a great binder too. I got to the

point where I would do a coffee enema every morning just to keep things clear

for me.

Good luck!

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> > > I have been really sick bad herx last week with levaquin for bart

> > > I am pulsing on it , 10 days on 10 days off and my last day was last

> > Friday

> > > so I am off of it till 8/16

> > >

> > > my stomache got all torn up from using welchol and or magnesium

> > > I was up to 33 drops on mms1

> > > and when I got really sick w/ stomache issues on Sunday

> > > I had to cut back

> > > today I havnt had a drop of mms1 or Doxy (yesterday either) cant stomache

> > them

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> > > today I am just fell 'Off' .. I feel like Im going to pass out .. very

> > nauseaus

> > > am taking charcoal and a little bit of mag .. but it dosnt seem to be

> > helping

> > > Im also very flushed and break out in hot sweats

> > >

> > > any ideas ?

> > > have no appetite only can eat bananas

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> > > " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

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