Re: Lupron shot and effect on PSA score

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Lupron and Zoladex are essentially the same. Either

should drop the PSA. They'll also drop your libido and

sex drive. Chemical castration. Bob

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My husband is 46 years old. He had a biopsy with a Gleason score of 9. He had a bone scan and the cancer is in his ribs, pelvic bone, left arm, and skull. No other treatment as he was just diagnosed. He is on Calsadex for the first 3 weeks as well. You can find the manufacterer's explanation of Lupron at Lupron.com. It is also used to treat endometreosis. We do not believe he ever had a PSA before this one in Jan. He will double check that when he sees his PCP next week. All 3 of his mother's brothers had prostate cancer.

I am all new to this so I am just coming out of shock. Still deep into research trying to find out as much as I can. I am only 37. We have not even been married 2 years. I want very much to make sure he lives a long time yet.

If there is anyone out there in or near Salem Oregon who knows of a wife's support group, I would appreciate info. My husband is not interested at this point, but we know there is a man's group in town. cshoward56 wrote:

Juel, I would be interested in your briefing your husband's case. What is his age? Has he had a biopsy? What was the Gleason score? Has he had any treatment other than the lupron?Peace on the journey,Juel captwildchild@...************************************Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateurbuilt the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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Juel

I'm sorry that you have had to join our group, but you are welcome and we will support you to the hilt! I think you are great looking for information for your husband. This beast impacts on wives, families, friends and carers.

I think you may only see a reduction of 20 points in the first two months, anything better is a bonus.

Next reasons for the treatment :-

Your husband was given Casodex because this protects your husband from the testosterone flare that comes with the the first few weeks of use of Lupron or Zoledex. Lupron would, if given alone, cause a massive availablility of testosterone until the testes are saturated. This is then followed by chemical castration. The lack of testosterone then reduces the growth and activity the cancer and can reduce it. (Without Casodex the tumour may have a growth spurt). There could be some side of effects of the Lupron, like hot flushes, breast soreness and it will be easier to gain weight.

It may be that,in time, the Lupron may have to be supplemented by Casodex which doesn't block the production of the testosterone but blocks its activity. This is because the body can make testosterone in the adrenal glands as well.

It would not be fair of us to say that your husband has chance of a cure. Many of us on the groups have found that the beast has escaped and we use every means possible to put the brakes on the thing. Whilst it seems every man with PCa has a different progression, I know of so many men who have progression like your husband and are still alive 10 years later. As time goes on new means of limiting progression appear. The advice I received was use the ones with least side effects first. If one treatment fails we move to the next.

I would be interested in is his general health. Is he in pain? There are steps that can be taken to improve quality of life. Diagnosis often brings a reassessment of life's priorities and I have certainly lived life to the full since 1996 when I was diagnosed. We have been to the USA twice, to India, the Canaries, Greece twice, and that is just part of it.

I hope I haven't bombarded you with too much. It is a difficult time when you are hit with a diagnosis. Carry on asking questions or just say I'm down today I need a lift. We won't hit you with facts, just support on those days.

Best wishes to you both

[Guest guest]

Hi Juel,

So sorry

to read of your problems. has given you an excellent response, and I can’t

add anything to that, or indeed help yo with the information you are looking

for in respect of a woman’s group in Salem. The best I can do is to say that

there is a List for Women Only which you can find by paging down on this Link http://www.groups.prostate-help.org/grsubsc.htm

I am told that there is excellent support there by some of the women who have

joined.

Another of

the Lists in that serve deals with advanced PCa and there are some very

knowledgeable men on the List who may be bale to help you.

All the best

Terry Herbert

in sunny Kalk

Bay, South Africa

Diagnosed ‘96:

Age 54: Stage T2b: PSA 7.2: Gleason 3+3=6: No treatment. June '04: TURP. Jan

'05 PSA 12.99 fPSA 34%

My site is at

www.prostatecancerwatchfulwaiting.co.za

It is a tragedy of the world that no one knows what he

doesn’t know, and the less a man knows, the more sure he is that he knows

everything.   Joyce Carey

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From: captwildchild

Sent: 03 March 2005 10:43

To:

ProstateCancerSupport

Subject: Re:

Lupron shot and effect on PSA score

My husband is

46 years old. He had a biopsy with a Gleason score of 9. He had a bone scan and

the cancer is in his ribs, pelvic bone, left arm, and skull. No other treatment

as he was just diagnosed. He is on Calsadex for the first 3 weeks as well. You

can find the manufacterer's explanation of Lupron at Lupron.com. It is also

used to treat endometreosis. We do not believe he ever had a PSA before this

one in Jan. He will double check that when he sees his PCP next week. All 3 of

his mother's brothers had prostate cancer.

I am all new

to this so I am just coming out of shock. Still deep into research trying to

find out as much as I can. I am only 37. We have not even been married 2 years.

I want very much to make sure he lives a long time yet.

If there is

anyone out there in or near Salem Oregon who knows of a wife's support group, I

would appreciate info. My husband is not interested at this point, but we know

there is a man's group in town.

cshoward56

wrote:

Juel, I would be interested in your briefing your

husband's case.

What is his age? Has he had a biopsy? What was the Gleason

score?

Has he had any treatment other than the lupron?

Peace on the journey,

Juel

captwildchild@...

************************************

Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur

built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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