Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I recently read an article about calcium and they say you shouldn't take calcium supp's, that it can cause buildup in your arteries contributing to health issues. They say you should eat foods w/calcium in it and forgo the supp's. Not sure if this is valid or not, but makes me think. I heard years ago, a dr. said as long as you eat a really healthy diet, you don't need to take supp's. That's for the average person, Lymies are special From: Runyan To: Lyme_and_Rife , bartonella Date: 08/01/2010 12:02 PM Subject: OT: Everything you never knew about B-vitamins Sent by: Lyme_and_Rife I never realized all the effects they can have. As with Vitamin C, this article makes me want to take just a balanced B-vitamin close to the RDI. See the potential negative effects of high doses of B-6 or B-6 without P-5-P. http://www.acu-cell.com/bx.html - Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. ________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@.... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Hi , I subscribe to this thinking also.. I used to use calcium supplements, but they draw down our magnesium levels, and I don't want to do that! I use magnesium 1200 -1700 daily and get my calcium from food... And that is another thing, we do get a lot of calcium from the food we eat, but much less magnesium... One of the best ways to ensure calcium goes where it is supposed to in the body is take a daily supplement of Vit K2 (as menaquinone)... I never miss a day! This is the exact product I use (sublingual), it has the correct amount of K2 (as menaquinone) and also Vit D3, 1000mg. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TL875/ItemDetail?n=0 And this is some good reading about this... http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Vitamin-K2-but-not-K1-effective-for-hea\ rt-health-benefits-Study http://qualitycounts.com/fpvitamink.html http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/v_k2.html Take care, Jim > > I recently read an article about calcium and they say you shouldn't take > calcium supp's, that it can cause buildup in your arteries contributing to > health issues. They say you should eat foods w/calcium in it and forgo > the supp's. > > Not sure if this is valid or not, but makes me think. I heard years ago, > a dr. said as long as you eat a really healthy diet, you don't need to > take supp's. That's for the average person, Lymies are special > > > > > > > > From: > Runyan > To: > Lyme_and_Rife , bartonella > Date: > 08/01/2010 12:02 PM > Subject: > OT: Everything you never knew about B-vitamins > Sent by: > Lyme_and_Rife > > > > > I never realized all the effects they can have. As with Vitamin C, this > article makes me want to take just a balanced B-vitamin close to the RDI. > See the potential negative effects of high doses of B-6 or B-6 without > P-5-P. > > http://www.acu-cell.com/bx.html > > - > > > > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. > ________________________________________________________________________ > The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. > > Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Valid, esp. with synthetic forms - causes many cardiovascular diseases, and furthermore, hinders absorption of magnesium, which is critical for all cellular enzyme functions. Leafy greens, nuts, yogurt (with probitics - good for you too), and salmon are a few great sources of natural form calcium which does not reap the damage of synthetic ca2+ and tastes much better. Chalk does not do a body good like milk does. Subject: Re: OT: CalciumTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:34 PM I recently read an article about calcium and they say you shouldn't take calcium supp's, that it can cause buildup in your arteries contributing to health issues. They say you should eat foods w/calcium in it and forgo the supp's. Not sure if this is valid or not, but makes me think. I heard years ago, a dr. said as long as you eat a really healthy diet, you don't need to take supp's. That's for the average person, Lymies are special From: Runyan <monandreamichelle@ gmail.com> To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com, bartonella@yahoogro ups.com Date: 08/01/2010 12:02 PM Subject: OT: Everything you never knew about B-vitamins Sent by: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com I never realized all the effects they can have. As with Vitamin C, this article makes me want to take just a balanced B-vitamin close to the RDI. See the potential negative effects of high doses of B-6 or B-6 without P-5-P.http://www.acu- cell.com/ bx.html- Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions.____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@ ey.com. If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 I've been taking a supplement that I thought for good for me, dr. told me to take it, it's calcium, magnesium and vit d all together in 4 big pills, I guess that was a big mistake! From: Parent To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: 08/02/2010 11:44 PM Subject: Re: OT: Calcium Sent by: Lyme_and_Rife Valid, esp. with synthetic forms - causes many cardiovascular diseases, and furthermore, hinders absorption of magnesium, which is critical for all cellular enzyme functions. Leafy greens, nuts, yogurt (with probitics - good for you too), and salmon are a few great sources of natural form calcium which does not reap the damage of synthetic ca2+ and tastes much better. Chalk does not do a body good like milk does. Subject: Re: OT: Calcium To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:34 PM I recently read an article about calcium and they say you shouldn't take calcium supp's, that it can cause buildup in your arteries contributing to health issues. They say you should eat foods w/calcium in it and forgo the supp's. Not sure if this is valid or not, but makes me think. I heard years ago, a dr. said as long as you eat a really healthy diet, you don't need to take supp's. That's for the average person, Lymies are special From: Runyan <monandreamichelle@ gmail.com> To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com, bartonella@yahoogro ups.com Date: 08/01/2010 12:02 PM Subject: OT: Everything you never knew about B-vitamins Sent by: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com I never realized all the effects they can have. As with Vitamin C, this article makes me want to take just a balanced B-vitamin close to the RDI. See the potential negative effects of high doses of B-6 or B-6 without P-5-P. http://www.acu- cell.com/ bx.html - Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@ ey.com. If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. ________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@.... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 , I will give you my input on it. i have tried with and without calcium as a supplement. I was eating alot of things with calcium in them. it did not do the trick for me. I notice a difference in the way my muscles work, in being more relaxed and going to sleep at night, when I am on calcium as a pill. Also I have tried taking magnesium without the calcium or taking them separately at different times and that does not feel good to me. My body does not feel good, the feeling I have when I take the mag. separately, it does not feel good. I take only mag cit. 200 and calcium 330 ( with D) twice daily. Both times I take these( and together) I experience a remarkable calmness, it helps me with acid reflux, depression which I rarely have as well as muscle issues. I would recommend people follow the new guidelines if that can work for them. I am just saying it did not work for me and I take it knowing what the heart risks are. There are alot of supplements I take on good faith not knowing what real efffect they are having. Cal and mag as well as E I can feel the difference. With E , it helps my peripheal neuropathy in my feet. Doug From: alicia.colon@ ey.com <alicia.colon@ ey.com> Subject: Re: OT: Calcium To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:34 PM I recently read an article about calcium and they say you shouldn't take calcium supp's, that it can cause buildup in your arteries contributing to health issues. They say you should eat foods w/calcium in it and forgo the supp's. Not sure if this is valid or not, but makes me think. I heard years ago, a dr. said as long as you eat a really healthy diet, you don't need to take supp's. That's for the average person, Lymies are special From: Runyan <monandreamichelle@ gmail.com> To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com, bartonella@yahoogro ups.com Date: 08/01/2010 12:02 PM Subject: OT: Everything you never knew about B-vitamins Sent by: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com I never realized all the effects they can have. As with Vitamin C, this article makes me want to take just a balanced B-vitamin close to the RDI. 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Guest guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 For Info on Ca and build up in arteries look up Vitamin K2 mg5. You will find it takes the Ca out of the arteries and puts it in the bones where it belongs. Vit. K2 is not the vit K we have known for years that clots blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hi , I used to take something similar, but not anymore... Mag and D3 are important, most of us get enough calcium from diet... Too much cal and it will deplete your magnesium and that is a no-no for Lymies... Jim > > > Subject: Re: OT: Calcium > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:34 PM > > > > I recently read an article about calcium and they say you shouldn't take > calcium supp's, that it can cause buildup in your arteries contributing to > health issues. They say you should eat foods w/calcium in it and forgo > the supp's. > > Not sure if this is valid or not, but makes me think. I heard years ago, > a dr. said as long as you eat a really healthy diet, you don't need to > take supp's. That's for the average person, Lymies are special > > > > > > > > From: > Runyan <monandreamichelle@ gmail.com> > To: > Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com, bartonella@yahoogro ups.com > Date: > 08/01/2010 12:02 PM > Subject: > OT: Everything you never knew about B-vitamins > Sent by: > Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > I never realized all the effects they can have. As with Vitamin C, this > article makes me want to take just a balanced B-vitamin close to the RDI. > See the potential negative effects of high doses of B-6 or B-6 without > P-5-P. > > http://www.acu- cell.com/ bx.html > > - > > > > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended > or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the > purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal > Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > ______ > The information contained in this message may be privileged and > confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for > delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it > from your computer. > > Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or > solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or > promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive > advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for > Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail > preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by > forwarding this message to no-more-mail@ ey.com. If you do so, the sender > of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is > 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP > > > > > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. > ________________________________________________________________________ > The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. > > Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Aside from the cardiovascular risks and damages, "calcium can decrease the effectiveness of certain antibiotics, osteoporosis drugs, and thyroid drugs...." (Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database, Professional Version, June 2010). Makes it all the most imperative to weigh the "DIET" mneumonic posted earlier by one member. There's so much to learn and juggle. Subject: Re: OT: CalciumTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 1:45 AM Hi ,I used to take something similar, but not anymore... Mag and D3 are important, most of us get enough calcium from diet... Too much cal and it will deplete your magnesium and that is a no-no for Lymies...Jim> > > Subject: Re: OT: Calcium> To: Lyme_and_Rife > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:34 PM> > > > I recently read an article about calcium and they say you shouldn't take > calcium supp's, that it can cause buildup in your arteries contributing to > health issues. They say you should eat foods w/calcium in it and forgo > the supp's. > > Not sure if this is valid or not, but makes me think. I heard years ago, > a dr. said as long as you eat a really healthy diet, you don't need to > take supp's. That's for the average person, Lymies are special > > > > > > > > From: > Runyan <monandreamichelle@ gmail.com> > To: > Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com, bartonella@yahoogro ups.com > Date: > 08/01/2010 12:02 PM > Subject: > OT: Everything you never knew about B-vitamins > Sent by: > Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com> > > > > > I never realized all the effects they can have. As with Vitamin C, this > article makes me want to take just a balanced B-vitamin close to the RDI. > See the potential negative effects of high doses of B-6 or B-6 without > P-5-P.> > http://www.acu- cell.com/ bx.html> > - > > > > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended > or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the > purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal > Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions.> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > ______> The information contained in this message may be privileged and > confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for > delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it > from your computer. > > Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or > solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or > promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive > advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for > Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail > preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by > forwarding this message to no-more-mail@ ey.com. If you do so, the sender > of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is > 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP > > > > > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions.> __________________________________________________________> The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. > > Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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