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I didn't realize cuddling and petting were viewed as the same thing. They are certainly not in my definitions. Cuddling is just that, sitting or laying down with arms around each other, possibly with legs entwined. Petting is making out, kissing, touching each other in ways that excite you sexually. I would like to feel sexually attractive to my husband.

I do not think you mean to, but you come across as very angry and antagonistic. I am trying not to take it personally. Peace on the journey,Juel captwildchild@...************************************If you are going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

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I agree with the distinction you make between cuddling and petting,

although one might think that cuddling includes petting as you

define it. You did not say that Dale did not like to pet. But

maybe that was your implication. Well, if Dale does not like to

pet, then I see your point. You and Dale will have to work that

out. If he is good at cuddling, I would think he would be good at

petting, also. As so many people have said in their comments in

this group, the partners have to communicate. If you want to pet

and you are afraid to initiate petting, then you need to talk to

Dale and tell him you want to pet. I would think that cuddling

would often involve petting. I asked a woman one time to tell me

about a swim suit she had. She liked to sunbathe in the suit and I

wanted to know what kind of suit it was, the color, etc. And she

replied, " What difference does it make to you. " I took that to mean

she was saying I disappointed her by not being able to have

intercourse with her so why did I want to think of her body and

nudity or semi-nudity. Her remarks stung. I let it go. But just

because a man may not be able to make love does not mean he does not

want to make love. I was in love with the woman. She decided I

would not do.

> I didn't realize cuddling and petting were viewed as the same

thing. They are certainly not in my definitions. Cuddling is just

that, sitting or laying down with arms around each other, possibly

with legs entwined. Petting is making out, kissing, touching each

other in ways that excite you sexually. I would like to feel

sexually attractive to my husband.

>

> I do not think you mean to, but you come across as very angry and

antagonistic. I am trying not to take it personally.

>

>

> Peace on the journey,

> Juel

> captwildchild@r...

> ************************************

> If you are going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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I am not sure there is an average woman any more than there is an

average man. What makes us wonderful is that we are all different. What

I have leaned is that I cannot make someone into what I want them to be.

I have to accept them for who they are. Intimacy/sex is one of those

issues.

Some men and women feel uncomfortable talking about sexual issues in

mixed groups but will talk about them in single sex groups. Some men and

women feel exactly the opposite and want to talk about these issues in

mixed groups. Personally I think mixed groups are better but that is

just the way I think. We cannot force people into something that they

are not ready for and there needs to be outlets for each type.

Discussions with a long term partner is different than with a new

partner,

As I said earlier the PCA group at prostate pointers ahs a mixed group

that discusses sexual and intimacy issues.

The mission of that group is " PCA offers open and frank discussion about

the problems associated with intimacy and prostate cancer. "

If you go there and do not see an immediate answer to your question,

ask. Sometimes the discussion is technical. Sometimes it is touchy feely

but it is a mixed group so you will get honest feedback from both sexes

and some very helpful information if these issues are ones that you want

to talk about.

http://www.prostatepointers.org/mailman/listinfo/pcai

Kathy

Re: How deep do we go?

What I hear you saying is that women are afraid to tell men the

truth about their reaction to a man's losing his ability to have an

erection. What I want is the truth. If a man is married to a woman

who is devastated because he can no longer get erect, he needs to

know that. He may want to end his relationship with that woman and

find a woman who feels differently. Assuming he can. As for the

woman, if an erect penis is very important to her happiness, she

probably needs to move on and not cuckhold her husband.

I have run into that situation. Only the woman would not be direct

about it. She hinted about it.

>

> > Many comments have been

> > censored and members (primarily female members) have said that

they

> > have been offended by some of the remarks.

>

> I'm a female member, am I one of the people you are talking about?

>

> >I notice that women have

> > their own group which excludes men.

>

> Yes we do! We have a small group that we affectionately call " The

> Ya-Ya Sisterhood of the Devine Prostate. " The link to it has been

> posted here in a previous message. I started that group because

> sometimes I felt like the true confessions of my feelings made some

> guys feel uncomfortable and/or defensive-- this may or may not be

> true, but nevertheless, it's how I felt. The all girl group was

formed

> to avoid this and also to help us girls feel a little safer talking

> about such private matters in cyberspace.

>

> >Does anyone know of a group

> > where men with prostate cancer are free to say what they want to

> say

> > without women being able to restrict and inhibit the discussion?

>

> No I don't, but that doesn't mean you aren't free to start one! In

> fact, I would encourage you to do so! Obviously there is a niche

> market that needs to be filled.

>

> Wylee

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--- cshoward56 wrote:

> I agree with the distinction you make between cuddling and petting,

> although one might think that cuddling includes petting as you

> define it.

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>I would think that cuddling would often involve petting.

I would disagree. Cuddling is non-sexual. It is the sharing of affection.

Petting is sexual.

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As a rule, I believe that men like cuddling and love sex; while women love

cuddling better.

It was God's practical joke on the human race, just like our different

" thermostats " .

As a rule, I believe women like warmer temps while us guys want the Air

Conditioning maxxed down to Cold.

Another of God's practical jokes.

B.

Conroe, TX

Re: Re: How deep do we go?

> --- RON KERBLE wrote:

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>>The most important thing in any relation is communication with you partner

>>and that snuggling is

> just as important as having sexual relations.

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> If not more so...

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