Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Hi Whitney, I don't know about all the other stuff you're experiencing, except that it sounds awful and I know the feeling. I'm trying to figure out my situation, too. But one thing that did jump out at me is that you're coiling for bartonella only once a day. told me that it reproduces so quickly that it's necessary to coil for it twice a day. So if you know you have it (I think you'd mentioned an Igenex test?) twice a day might help more. I've been doing that for just under a week. I thought I'd try skipping this morning as an experiment to see what would happen, like maybe I don't even have it and I'm wasting my time. After a few hours I felt MUCH worse. So I almost ran to the coil machine and did a session, so that I'd have time to do another one before I go to bed tonight. Peggy Brain fog and dizziness Hey guys,The past month my brain fog was been wayyyy worse. Last year when I first started getting really sick, it was the brain fog that kept me at home. It had improved quiet a bit, but no where near feeling normal. I am on abx right now and the increase in fog did coincide with adding amoxicilin, so I'm not sure if that means its die off or what. Would a herx last this long? I have also started to get dizzy again-- almost like vertigo, which does not subside if I'm sitting or if I close my eyes. Another thing is that about 3 weeks ago I did start coiling. I have been working on bart 832 and am up to 1 minute once a day (some days I'll take off though). I do regular enemas, take burbur, Epsom salt baths, exercise/ walk almost daily to try to sweat a bit. I also take MMS and am up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Really-- OK ill kick it up to twice a day. I was confused cause had said to do it once every other day....but then you guys said twice a day, so I was compromising- lol. I'll run in my room now and do a treatment. Thanks!Whitney Hi Whitney, I don't know about all the other stuff you're experiencing, except that it sounds awful and I know the feeling. I'm trying to figure out my situation, too. But one thing that did jump out at me is that you're coiling for bartonella only once a day. told me that it reproduces so quickly that it's necessary to coil for it twice a day. So if you know you have it (I think you'd mentioned an Igenex test?) twice a day might help more. I've been doing that for just under a week. I thought I'd try skipping this morning as an experiment to see what would happen, like maybe I don't even have it and I'm wasting my time. After a few hours I felt MUCH worse. So I almost ran to the coil machine and did a session, so that I'd have time to do another one before I go to bed tonight. Peggy Brain fog and dizziness Hey guys,The past month my brain fog was been wayyyy worse. Last year when I first started getting really sick, it was the brain fog that kept me at home. It had improved quiet a bit, but no where near feeling normal. I am on abx right now and the increase in fog did coincide with adding amoxicilin, so I'm not sure if that means its die off or what. Would a herx last this long? I have also started to get dizzy again-- almost like vertigo, which does not subside if I'm sitting or if I close my eyes. Another thing is that about 3 weeks ago I did start coiling. I have been working on bart 832 and am up to 1 minute once a day (some days I'll take off though). I do regular enemas, take burbur, Epsom salt baths, exercise/ walk almost daily to try to sweat a bit. I also take MMS and am up -- Whitney Schmucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Hi Whitney, I am sorry you are dealing with increased brain fog... I believe for some, including me, some abx can really increase fatigue and brain fog.. I was on IV Rocephin and oral Flagyl for 14 weeks, after the first week I could not stand the herx, fatigue and brain fog, but continued on until the end.. I stopped the Flagyl in week 12. I don't believe this was a reaction to the abx, but rather a reaction to the die-off, ala the herx... And many others also complain about this, one reason I believe in pulsing abx instead of longer term use... At the time I was on the abx, I was coaching two others also on the same protocol and they felt exactly as I did... One quit in about a month, the other at two months, the fatigue and brain fog were just too much.... Are you on a fairly high dose of Amoxicillan? This may be the cause... To answer your question, yes, abx herxes can remain constant and long if not time is given to detox. The dizziness is probably ear related... Have you tried coiling your ears? Did you catch my post about using either hydrogen peroxide or a hair dryer for ear issues the other day? More detox may be the key or asking your doc to lower the dose... You may also be adding to this with the Coil... Best to keep your coil time lower while on the abx... Both are killing protocols... Are you drinking 1/2 (or more) your body weight in ounces of water? This is one of the best detoxers, moves a lot out of the body... Take care, this will pass, Jim > > Hey guys, > The past month my brain fog was been wayyyy worse. Last year when I first started getting really sick, it was the brain fog that kept me at home. It had improved quiet a bit, but no where near feeling normal. > I am on abx right now and the increase in fog did coincide with adding amoxicilin, so I'm not sure if that means its die off or what. Would a herx last this long? I have also started to get dizzy again-- almost like vertigo, which does not subside if I'm sitting or if I close my eyes. > Another thing is that about 3 weeks ago I did start coiling. I have been working on bart 832 and am up to 1 minute once a day (some days I'll take off though). > I do regular enemas, take burbur, Epsom salt baths, exercise/ walk almost daily to try to sweat a bit. I also take MMS and am up to 25 drops a day. I should also note that I've not been sleeping well the last few weeks despite my best efforts, and ambien. > > Anyways-- not sure if I should just work on detox more, or if I should start coiling for Babs too-- I know dizzy, off the ground feeling is a symptom of babs, or what I should do. Any thoughts would be great. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Did you try colonic it help me more when the aenema is nor enought . 2 consecutive may be three. Ozone ? does help also I struggle myself with the sames issue that is the only thing I can propose . If you are not constipated green clay and charcoal Marie Subject: Re: Brain fog and dizzinessTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 1:24 AM Hi Whitney,I am sorry you are dealing with increased brain fog...I believe for some, including me, some abx can really increase fatigue and brain fog.. I was on IV Rocephin and oral Flagyl for 14 weeks, after the first week I could not stand the herx, fatigue and brain fog, but continued on until the end.. I stopped the Flagyl in week 12. I don't believe this was a reaction to the abx, but rather a reaction to the die-off, ala the herx... And many others also complain about this, one reason I believe in pulsing abx instead of longer term use... At the time I was on the abx, I was coaching two others also on the same protocol and they felt exactly as I did... One quit in about a month, the other at two months, the fatigue and brain fog were just too much....Are you on a fairly high dose of Amoxicillan? This may be the cause... To answer your question, yes, abx herxes can remain constant and long if not time is given to detox. The dizziness is probably ear related... Have you tried coiling your ears? Did you catch my post about using either hydrogen peroxide or a hair dryer for ear issues the other day?More detox may be the key or asking your doc to lower the dose... You may also be adding to this with the Coil... Best to keep your coil time lower while on the abx... Both are killing protocols... Are you drinking 1/2 (or more) your body weight in ounces of water? This is one of the best detoxers, moves a lot out of the body...Take care, this will pass,Jim>> Hey guys,> The past month my brain fog was been wayyyy worse. Last year when I first started getting really sick, it was the brain fog that kept me at home. It had improved quiet a bit, but no where near feeling normal. > I am on abx right now and the increase in fog did coincide with adding amoxicilin, so I'm not sure if that means its die off or what. Would a herx last this long? I have also started to get dizzy again-- almost like vertigo, which does not subside if I'm sitting or if I close my eyes. > Another thing is that about 3 weeks ago I did start coiling. I have been working on bart 832 and am up to 1 minute once a day (some days I'll take off though). > I do regular enemas, take burbur, Epsom salt baths, exercise/ walk almost daily to try to sweat a bit. I also take MMS and am up to 25 drops a day. I should also note that I've not been sleeping well the last few weeks despite my best efforts, and ambien. > > Anyways-- not sure if I should just work on detox more, or if I should start coiling for Babs too-- I know dizzy, off the ground feeling is a symptom of babs, or what I should do. Any thoughts would be great.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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