Guest guest Posted May 11, 2001 Report Share Posted May 11, 2001 does anyone know this answer: my son is testing very high on the tin. Tin seems to be way of releasing the mercury, i was told by my doctor. Is there any way of getting rid of the tin beside dmsa. We have been chelating since oct. and the tin is still high. Where in the world would this be coming from? How do I know what to avoid. Any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks in advance, angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2001 Report Share Posted May 11, 2001 I can tell you that my son had very high tin that I thought would never go down. It did finally, he's on DMMSA and LA and now he had little tin coming out. Vla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2001 Report Share Posted May 11, 2001 We have had very high tin since starting chelation in October also. We still don't know where it's coming from. One suggestion is that it may be from a bacterial source if it is organic tin. We recently started diflucan to kill off yeast. Maybe this will help. Have you gone through a yeast treatment program yet (i.e. nystatin, diflucan, etc)? Dennis > does anyone know this answer: > my son is testing very high on the tin. Tin seems to be way of releasing > the mercury, i was told by my doctor. Is there any way of getting rid of the > tin beside dmsa. We have been chelating since oct. and the tin is still > high. > Where in the world would this be coming from? How do I know what to avoid. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > thanks in advance, > angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2001 Report Share Posted May 11, 2001 Does your son eat toothpaste? This was the cause (we think) of our son's high tin levels. Now we buy natural toothpaste by Weleda. N. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 In a message dated 5/11/01 7:05:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis.colannino@... writes: << off yeast. Maybe this will help. Have you gone through a yeast treatment program yet (i.e. nystatin, diflucan, etc)? >> yes we have done that a while ago. How can one test if the tin is bactarial, where would that come from? Is your childs mercury level low. I was told that if the tin is high, that the mercury takes longer to be removed from the body. Anyone out there??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 In a message dated 5/11/01 10:30:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, scromb@... writes: << I can tell you that my son had very high tin that I thought would never go down. It did finally, he's on DMMSA and LA and now he had little tin coming out. Vla >>how long it take to finally come out? angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 In a message dated 5/11/01 11:49:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, snickol@... writes: << Does your son eat toothpaste? This was the cause (we think) of our son's high tin levels. Now we buy natural toothpaste by Weleda. N no he does not eat the tooth paste does not even swallow it. __________________________________________________________ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 Where do you buy this? thanks kyle Re: [ ] tin Does your son eat toothpaste? This was the cause (we think) of our son's high tin levels. Now we buy natural toothpaste by Weleda. N. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 Adam's mercury usually comes out at about 1.6 (0 - 3 rr). So he is in the reference range and we know the mercury is there (and probably masked by the large amounts of tin). Tin is a much lighter metal so the dmsa grabs the easy ones first. The source of tin has still been a mystery. I also heard that once the tin levels finally come down that you start seeing larger amounts of mercury come out. Dennis > In a message dated 5/11/01 7:05:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis.colannino@v... writes: > > << > off yeast. Maybe this will help. Have you gone through > a yeast treatment program yet (i.e. nystatin, diflucan, etc)? > >> > yes we have done that a while ago. How can one test if the tin is bactarial, > where would that come from? Is your childs mercury level low. I was told > that if the tin is high, that the mercury takes longer to be removed from > the body. Anyone out there??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 My daughter had a very high hair tin reading and after 15 weeks of chelation on step 1 under Dr. Amy, her urine toxic elements showed 1100 for tin (reference range 0-6)! Per Dr. Amy, this was the highest level she had seen, although it is becoming frequent with the girls in her practice. Sources of tin: stannous flouride (in toothpaste), canned pineapple (if I'm remembering correctly. Could also be in the water (we had our water tested and no tin was present). So, it's been a mystery for us as well. Jolene ********************* I would look into what the dentist and school has been doing regarding fluoride. Stannous fluoride is just the toxic waste from Florida phosphate mines put into a consumer product to avoid disposing of it as toxic waste. Dept. of Energy does the same kind of thing to dispose of radioactive waste at their toxic sites like Oak Ridge, South Carolina, Hanford etc. Likewise for land spreading of toxic wastes by big Chemical companies all over the U.S. And people are getting exposure to lots of bad things from this practice, which is ocassionally documented in the Media but not much is done about it. If lots of kids are getting high levels, people need to pool their resources and make a cooperative effort to find out what's going on. I would bring in the local health Dept. & state Health Dept., say you have a big toxic exposure problem, and ask them to help figure out what it is. Also coopertive effort on research and testing with others. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 I buy the Weleda toothpaste from Blooming Prairie, it's a food co-op that we belong to. You might be able to get it at health food stores. The web site is usa.weleda.com and phone # is (800) 241-1030. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 In a message dated 5/12/01 6:13:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, l_shepard@... writes: << The stannous of stannous fluoride means tin. Does your son drink fluoridated water? Have fluoride treaatments? Use fluoridated toothpaste? >> not sure about our water. I do know our water, here on long Island, where I live, is suppose to be the best water on long Island. I am wondering, is it the best tasting, or quality? Also supposingly my pipes have been changed to (whatever it is suppose to be changed to) i forget, but i am going to send it out anyhow. Not sure where else this tin is coming from. thanks, angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2001 Report Share Posted May 13, 2001 In a message dated 5/12/01 6:13:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, l_shepard@... writes: << Have fluoride treaatments >>he did just have the fluoride treatment on his teeth recently. The dentist just brushes it on his teeth. We have that done once a year. that has tin in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2001 Report Share Posted May 13, 2001 In a message dated 5/11/01 1:30:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, scromb@... writes: << com I can tell you that my son had very high tin that I thought would never go down. It did finally, he's on DMMSA and LA and now he had little tin coming out. Vla >>how long did it take for this process? How long was he on the dmsa before you saw the tin disappear? And not that the tin is lower, are you seeing more mercury. thanks in advance. angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2001 Report Share Posted May 19, 2001 Yes! Dentists use stannous fluoride (stannous means tin)...it's nuclear waste also used in rat poison. Calcium fluoride is the natural beneficial fluoride and they take advantage of the similar name to foist toxic waste on the public rather than paying the haz-mat fees. S On Sat, 12 May 2001, Msdai54513@... wrote: > > <html><body> > <tt> > In a message dated 5/12/01 6:13:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR> > l_shepard@... writes:<BR> > <BR> > & lt; & lt; Have fluoride treaatments & gt; & gt;he did just have the fluoride treatment on his <BR> > teeth recently. & nbsp; The dentist just brushes it on his teeth. We have that done <BR> > once a year.<BR> > that has tin in it?<BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td width=470><a href= " http://rd./M=190462.1393721.2979173.2/D=egroupmail/S=1700061616:N\ /A=551015/?http://www.debticated.com " target= " _top " ><img width=468 height=60 src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/am/ameridebtt/debicatedbanner2.gif " alt= " www.debticated.com " border=0></a></td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=190462.1393721.2979173.2/D=egroupmail/S=17\ 00061616:N/A=551015/rand=242743682 " ></td></tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 Fluoridated water and toothpaste contain tin (the stannous of stannous fluoride) S On Sat, 10 November 2001, " Lorilyn Teasdale " wrote: > > <html><body> > <tt> > One possibility is canned foods. & nbsp; Does your child eat a lot of them? & nbsp; Not that there is necessarily anything wrong with them for normal people, but it the Pfeiffer Institute and Bill Walsh are correct, these children have a defect in metallothionen, and therefore a problem carrying metals (good or bad) in or out of the body. & nbsp; Unfortunately, my family eats a fair amount of canned foods anyway....<BR> > Lorilyn<BR> > <BR> > & nbsp; My son tested to have <BR> > & nbsp; 5 times the normal amount of tin in his body, is there anyone out <BR> > & nbsp; there that has high tin levels? & nbsp; If so do you know where the child <BR> > & nbsp; came in contact with it?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 mlw1928@... wrote: > Hi, my name is Malinda and I am a first timer. My son tested to have > 5 times the normal amount of tin in his body, is there anyone out > there that has high tin levels? If so do you know where the child > came in contact with it? > look here and find a few sources http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts55.html -- " When you don’t know where you’re going, you have to stick together just in case someone gets there. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 >Hi, my name is Malinda and I am a first timer. My son tested to have >5 times the normal amount of tin in his body, is there anyone out >there that has high tin levels? If so do you know where the child >came in contact with it? Hi Malinda, welcome, This may seem like a pretty strange response, because it doesn't answer your question (about which I have nothing to add). I just wanted to mention to you that your son MIGHT also be mercury toxic, and you should not rule it out. Mercury " hides out " and someone who is very much mercury toxic can have a NORMAL reading for mercury in hair/blood/urine. In fact, it is common. Please ask for more info if you want. And you could also read the " counting rules " file, which explains this a little bit. Sorry I can't help you with the tin questions. best, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 In a message dated 11/10/01 3:36:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, mlw1928@... writes: > > Hi, my name is Malinda and I am a first timer. My son tested to have > 5 times the normal amount of tin in his body, is there anyone out > there that has high tin levels? If so do you know where the child > came in contact with it? > > my son tested high on the tin as well. I did notice, when he did have a > lot of soup from the can that week of chelation, it was higher. Does your > child eat alot of soup or anything else from cans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2001 Report Share Posted November 12, 2001 Both my wife and son have extremely high tin levels. Is it in dental amalgams? That is the only obvious place I can think it might have come from. By the way, they also have high alluminum, nickel, lead, and mercury. Ken Sokolski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2001 Report Share Posted November 14, 2001 It is common for adults with amalgam illness (filling derived mercury poisoning) to have high tin and aluminum and high-ish nickel. In fact the really characteristic hair element test is high Sn, Al, Ni and Ca, with the essentials all over the place. The lead is more interesting, you want to differentiate between it looking high because mercury has affected mineral transport, and it looking high because it actually is elevated. This is often not easy to do. Andy > Both my wife and son have extremely high tin levels. Is it in dental > amalgams? That is the only obvious place I can think it might have come from. > By the way, they also have high alluminum, nickel, lead, and mercury. > Ken Sokolski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2001 Report Share Posted November 14, 2001 Tin is also in fluoridated water and toothpaste in the form of stannous fluoride. S On Wed, 14 November 2001, AndyCutler@... wrote: > > <html><body> > <tt> > <BR> > <BR> > It is common for adults with amalgam illness (filling derived mercury <BR> > poisoning) to have high tin and aluminum and high-ish nickel. & nbsp; In fact <BR> > the really characteristic hair element test is high Sn, Al, Ni and Ca, <BR> > with the essentials all over the place.<BR> > <BR> > The lead is more interesting, you want to differentiate between it <BR> > looking high because mercury has affected mineral transport, and it <BR> > looking high because it actually is elevated. & nbsp; This is often not easy <BR> > to do.<BR> > <BR> > Andy<BR> > <BR> > & gt; Both my wife and son have extremely high tin levels. Is it in dental <BR> > & gt; amalgams? That is the only obvious place I can think it might have <BR> > come from. <BR> > & gt; By the way, they also have high alluminum, nickel, lead, and <BR> > mercury.<BR> > & gt; Ken Sokolski<BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td align=center width=470><a href= " http://rd./M=210672.1513963.3091383.1442549/D=egroupweb/S=1705061\ 616:HM/A=655239/R=0/*http://www.prostateinfo.com/piyj " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/as/astrazeneca/j2.gif " width= " 468 " height= " 60 " border= " 0 " ></a></td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=210672.1513963.3091383.1442549/D=egroupmai\ l/S=1705061616:HM/A=655239/rand=379429383 " ></td></tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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