Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hi I have a patient who gets really debilitating attacks of hiccups and has asked if I can help her. She is in her 50's, has a hiatus hernia and is quite a nervous/anxious person. The hiccup attacks only happen when she is out at a big social function and has eaten a meal and then is involved in dancing! The last time it happened she ended up vomiting and had to leave the function and it lasted for hours. She is very worried about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. She is also very stressed about the wedding, so i'm currently giving her herbs for that. I was thinking anti-spasmodics etc for the hiccups, and some soothing digestive herbs, but any other ideas very welcome!! I'm going to ask her to do a trial run before the wedding so that we can experiment a bit regarding the hiccups!!! Many Thanks Helen -- Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. Medical Herbalist www.heleng.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hi Helen, It may well be worth referring the patient to an Osteopath who specialises in visceral osteopathy. gursewa harrd. Â Hi I have a patient who gets really debilitating attacks of hiccups and has asked if I can help her. She is in her 50's, has a hiatus hernia and is quite a nervous/anxious person. The hiccup attacks only happen when she is out at a big social function and has eaten a meal and then is involved in dancing! The last time it happened she ended up vomiting and had to leave the function and it lasted for hours. She is very worried about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. She is also very stressed about the wedding, so i'm currently giving her herbs for that. I was thinking anti-spasmodics etc for the hiccups, and some soothing digestive herbs, but any other ideas very welcome!! I'm going to ask her to do a trial run before the wedding so that we can experiment a bit regarding the hiccups!!! Many Thanks Helen -- Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. Medical Herbalist www.heleng.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Coincidentally, I was just reading all about Passiflora www.henriettesherbal.com/eclectic/ellingwood/passiflora.html in connection with something else and the article mentions: 'Dr Roth believes that passiflora is a direct stomach sedative' ' One patient who had been on a spree fpr days suffering from persistent hiccough, took a teaspoonful of the tincture every hour. This gave him freedom from hiccough'...... Worth trying! Boys URHP hiccups Hi I have a patient who gets really debilitating attacks of hiccups and has asked if I can help her. She is in her 50's, has a hiatus hernia and is quite a nervous/anxious person. The hiccup attacks only happen when she is out at a big social function and has eaten a meal and then is involved in dancing! The last time it happened she ended up vomiting and had to leave the function and it lasted for hours. She is very worried about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. She is also very stressed about the wedding, so i'm currently giving her herbs for that. I was thinking anti-spasmodics etc for the hiccups, and some soothing digestive herbs, but any other ideas very welcome!! I'm going to ask her to do a trial run before the wedding so that we can experiment a bit regarding the hiccups!!! Many Thanks Helen -- Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. Medical Herbalist www.heleng.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Dear Helen, You and your patient might like to consider EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique). This is a non-herbal approach, more like acupuncture without needles, that may do very well for your patient, especially as anxiety is such a big issue. http://www.emofree.com/Articles2/hiccups-relief.htm http://www.emofree.com/Articles2/hiccups-skeptic-kathilyn.htm I am in the process of moving over from herbal practice to energy medicine techniques such as EFT because I am finding that it really is so extremely effective. You can download a free copy of Craig's manual from his site at www.emofree.com or there is a self-help section on my own site at www.EFTReiki.com. under the EFT section. If you need any further details or advice, just email me privately. Kind Regards, -- Bright Blessings, www.EFTReiki.com ( & EFT/Reiki Forum) In message , Helen Gestwicki writes > >Hi >I have a patient who gets really debilitating attacks of hiccups and >has >asked if I can help her. She is in her 50's, has a hiatus hernia and is >quite a nervous/anxious person. The hiccup attacks only happen >when she >is out at a big social function and has eaten a meal and then is >involved in dancing! The last time it happened she ended up >vomiting and >had to leave the function and it lasted for hours. She is very >worried >about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously >doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. > >She is also very stressed about the wedding, so i'm currently giving >her >herbs for that. I was thinking anti-spasmodics etc for the hiccups, >and >some soothing digestive herbs, but any other ideas very welcome!! > >I'm going to ask her to do a trial run before the wedding so that we >can >experiment a bit regarding the hiccups!!! > >Many Thanks >Helen >-- >Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. >Medical Herbalist >www.heleng.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hi Helen, It may well be worth referring the patient to an Osteopath who specialises in visceral osteopathy. gursewa harrad. Hi I have a patient who gets really debilitating attacks of hiccups and has asked if I can help her. She is in her 50's, has a hiatus hernia and is quite a nervous/anxious person. The hiccup attacks only happen when she is out at a big social function and has eaten a meal and then is involved in dancing! The last time it happened she ended up vomiting and had to leave the function and it lasted for hours. She is very worried about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. She is also very stressed about the wedding, so i'm currently giving her herbs for that. I was thinking anti-spasmodics etc for the hiccups, and some soothing digestive herbs, but any other ideas very welcome!! I'm going to ask her to do a trial run before the wedding so that we can experiment a bit regarding the hiccups!!! Many Thanks Helen -- Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. Medical Herbalist www.heleng.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Helen Gestwicki wrote: > She is very worried > about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously > doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. On a lighter note, wasn't there an article last year where docs had cured a case of hiccups of 20 years standing by applying rectal massage - once? Hmm... Henriette (makes you wonder that the chap involved never ever scratched an itch, there.) -- Henriette Kress Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Hi my godmother (retired consultant medic) has a remedy that has never failed on me - very simple take a teaspoon of sugar, soak in vinegar and swallow. The idea is that the combination of strong and opposing flavours shocks the vagus enough to stop it firing inappropriately. She taught me this when I was in school, and it has never failed for me. (long time ago.......) Sally O > Hi > I have a patient who gets really debilitating attacks of hiccups > and has > asked if I can help her. She is in her 50's, has a hiatus hernia > and is > quite a nervous/anxious person. The hiccup attacks only happen when > she > is out at a big social function and has eaten a meal and then is > involved in dancing! The last time it happened she ended up > vomiting and > had to leave the function and it lasted for hours. She is very worried > about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously > doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. > > She is also very stressed about the wedding, so i'm currently > giving her > herbs for that. I was thinking anti-spasmodics etc for the hiccups, > and > some soothing digestive herbs, but any other ideas very welcome!! > > I'm going to ask her to do a trial run before the wedding so that > we can > experiment a bit regarding the hiccups!!! > > Many Thanks > > Helen > > -- > Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. > Medical Herbalist > www.heleng.co.uk > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hi Helen, CranioSacral may help reduce the sympathetic tone. Regards Nick Hobley Helen Gestwicki wrote: Hi I have a patient who gets really debilitating attacks of hiccups and has asked if I can help her. She is in her 50's, has a hiatus hernia and is quite a nervous/anxious person. The hiccup attacks only happen when she is out at a big social function and has eaten a meal and then is involved in dancing! The last time it happened she ended up vomiting and had to leave the function and it lasted for hours. She is very worried about it as her daughter is getting married soon and she obviously doesn't want the occasion to be spoiled by her getting hiccups. She is also very stressed about the wedding, so i'm currently giving her herbs for that. I was thinking anti-spasmodics etc for the hiccups, and some soothing digestive herbs, but any other ideas very welcome!! I'm going to ask her to do a trial run before the wedding so that we can experiment a bit regarding the hiccups!!! Many Thanks Helen -- Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. Medical Herbalist www.heleng.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I seem to remember that in our Aromatic Medicine module, Colin Nicholls suggested one drop of tarragon essential oil on the tongue. I have never tried it as I've never had a bottle of it at hand when the hiccups came. Nor do I know the rationale behind it. Gail Farrow Medical Herbalist, East London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 to deal with the occasional hiccup: drink water 'upside down' - i.e have glass of water in your hand and drink from the rim that's away from you. This means you have to lean really far over. Hard to explain without showing it, but it does work. or: put a drop of lavender E.O. in a paperbag and inhale it with long deep breaths. hope this helps Sabine Re: hiccups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Not sure how to put this, but - I've tried the water drinking thing and it didn't work for me, but the sugar and vinegar does.......... Patient individuality perhaps? Do like all these essential oil ideas - does anybody know how to get hiccups to try it out? (oh no, there I go tempting fate again........... watch out for my post " I've got hiccoughs and nothing works any more........ " ) Sally > to deal with the occasional hiccup: > drink water 'upside down' - i.e have glass of water in your hand > and drink > from the rim that's away from you. This means you have to lean > really far > over. Hard to explain without showing it, but it does work. > > or: put a drop of lavender E.O. in a paperbag and inhale it with > long deep > breaths. > > hope this helps > Sabine > Re: hiccups > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hi - A logical hiccup solution - to stop the spasm of the diaphragm, press down firmly on the side of the rib cage, palms flat, fingertips to naval. In 2 or 3 deep breaths the diaphragm very gently releases. Hiccups also shown to be connected to cardiac cycles - although not clear which entrains which...perhaps this the tarragon rationale, as it is used as a cardiac tonic? With deep breaths! To: ukherbal-list@...: lindens@...: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:25:50 +0100Subject: Re: hiccups I seem to remember that in our Aromatic Medicine module, Colin Nicholls suggested one drop of tarragon essential oil on the tongue. I have never tried it as I've never had a bottle of it at hand when the hiccups came. Nor do I know the rationale behind it.Gail FarrowMedical Herbalist, East London[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Thanks for all the hiccup advice everyone - some very interesting solutions! I feel like I could write a book on the subject now!! Cheers - I'll let you know how she gets on... Helen -- Helen Gestwicki M.N.I.M.H. Medical Herbalist www.heleng.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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