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As to the second matter first, I'm so glad you mentioned that about not

being able to keep up with everyone. I have the exact same trouble -- plus

I'm on a guaifenesin list also -- and am also finding it difficult to

remember who is who. Sometimes the E-mail addresses even start to look

alike. My memory is very poor from the fibromyalgia, CFS, Lyme disease,

and some days it's a challenge just to remember WHO I AM!

The only suggestion I have for that problem is to give nicknames to each of

us, but that's just more to try and remember. Wonder if I could even

remember my own nickname.

I sympathize with your fear and desire for intercourse. I am in the middle

of the same thing. It had been a long time since we had tried it, but a

couple of weeks ago after I had started using Estrace cream for about 1-1/2

weeks I felt much less pain and we very slowly and gently attempted

intercourse and were successful with partial intercourse. My husband

avoided full penetration for fear of causing me pain, and that was fine

with me. I had no pain during and, miraculously, no pain afterward.

That's something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

I haven't tried it again since -- partly because of my menstrual cycle, but

mostly because of FEAR -- but one of these days I'll get up the guts to

again.

I know exactly how you feel and I wish you all the very best of luck.

Janis

> The first one is personal and I will say in advance thank you for input.

I would really like to

> try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if anybody had any

tips to relieve the pain

> ie. positions, creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

>

> The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

> everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

> same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

> situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you

have fallen victim to my

> really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

> already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week.

I promise that I am

> somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> Help

>

> , NC

>

>

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As to the second matter first, I'm so glad you mentioned that about not

being able to keep up with everyone. I have the exact same trouble -- plus

I'm on a guaifenesin list also -- and am also finding it difficult to

remember who is who. Sometimes the E-mail addresses even start to look

alike. My memory is very poor from the fibromyalgia, CFS, Lyme disease,

and some days it's a challenge just to remember WHO I AM!

The only suggestion I have for that problem is to give nicknames to each of

us, but that's just more to try and remember. Wonder if I could even

remember my own nickname.

I sympathize with your fear and desire for intercourse. I am in the middle

of the same thing. It had been a long time since we had tried it, but a

couple of weeks ago after I had started using Estrace cream for about 1-1/2

weeks I felt much less pain and we very slowly and gently attempted

intercourse and were successful with partial intercourse. My husband

avoided full penetration for fear of causing me pain, and that was fine

with me. I had no pain during and, miraculously, no pain afterward.

That's something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

I haven't tried it again since -- partly because of my menstrual cycle, but

mostly because of FEAR -- but one of these days I'll get up the guts to

again.

I know exactly how you feel and I wish you all the very best of luck.

Janis

> The first one is personal and I will say in advance thank you for input.

I would really like to

> try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if anybody had any

tips to relieve the pain

> ie. positions, creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

>

> The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

> everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

> same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

> situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you

have fallen victim to my

> really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

> already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week.

I promise that I am

> somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> Help

>

> , NC

>

>

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>

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,

As to the second matter first, I'm so glad you mentioned that about not

being able to keep up with everyone. I have the exact same trouble -- plus

I'm on a guaifenesin list also -- and am also finding it difficult to

remember who is who. Sometimes the E-mail addresses even start to look

alike. My memory is very poor from the fibromyalgia, CFS, Lyme disease,

and some days it's a challenge just to remember WHO I AM!

The only suggestion I have for that problem is to give nicknames to each of

us, but that's just more to try and remember. Wonder if I could even

remember my own nickname.

I sympathize with your fear and desire for intercourse. I am in the middle

of the same thing. It had been a long time since we had tried it, but a

couple of weeks ago after I had started using Estrace cream for about 1-1/2

weeks I felt much less pain and we very slowly and gently attempted

intercourse and were successful with partial intercourse. My husband

avoided full penetration for fear of causing me pain, and that was fine

with me. I had no pain during and, miraculously, no pain afterward.

That's something I haven't experienced in a very long time.

I haven't tried it again since -- partly because of my menstrual cycle, but

mostly because of FEAR -- but one of these days I'll get up the guts to

again.

I know exactly how you feel and I wish you all the very best of luck.

Janis

> The first one is personal and I will say in advance thank you for input.

I would really like to

> try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if anybody had any

tips to relieve the pain

> ie. positions, creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

>

> The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

> everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

> same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

> situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you

have fallen victim to my

> really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

> already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week.

I promise that I am

> somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> Help

>

> , NC

>

>

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From: mkbryan@... wrote:

I would really like to try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if

anybody had any tips to relieve the pain ie. positions, creams, dilators

anything, I am desperate.

***

I use xylocaine - works okay. Your doctor can write a prescription for it.

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From: mkbryan@... wrote:

I would really like to try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if

anybody had any tips to relieve the pain ie. positions, creams, dilators

anything, I am desperate.

***

I use xylocaine - works okay. Your doctor can write a prescription for it.

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There have been a couple of things that have helped me achieve less

painful intercourse (NOTE: not pain free, but less painful):

1) Estrace: applied topically (about 1 " strip) to labia minora (both

sides) and to Bartholin glands. This has accounted for a near 75%

reduction in pain with intercourse.

2) Being VERY aroused: I don't know if I get to a point where I just

don't care about the pain, or if the increased secretions help, or what

exactly - but I have even achieved completely pain free intercourse one

time when I was incredibly aroused.

3) Astroglide: an excellent lubricant, which I use even if I am very

lubricated already from my own secretions. We apply it to my husband's

penis and put some into my vagina as well.

4) Relaxation (diaphragmatic) breathing: I try to really relax and be

aware of my muscles and breathing. I usually tense up my vaginal

muscles and then release them right before he enters me. While he

enters me, I exhale deeply.

5) Communication with partner: VERY important. I've found that

sometimes his positioning/angle of entrance can make a huge difference.

I tell him to aim " up " instead of " down " and that works for us.

6) Starting out with missionary position: This is the ONLY thing that

works for me. I can usually go into doggie style after we've gotten

into the rhythm of things, but I can not begin any other way besides

missionary. I also cannot have him lying on me, but rather he has to

essentially do a push up and hold himself up while he enters me.

7) Aveeno bath immediately after intercourse: This helps to get all the

'stuff' out of me - which helps a great deal to reduce irritation.

8) ICE: works wonders immediately following intercourse. The

combination of Aveeno and Ice usually prevents me from flaring up too

badly the next day.

HOPE THIS HELPS!!

> I would really like to try intercourse again someday soon and wanted

> to know if anybody had any tips to relieve the pain ie. positions,

> creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

> The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

> everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

> same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

> situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you have

fallen victim to my

> really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

> already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week. I

promise that I am

> somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> Help

>

> , NC

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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There have been a couple of things that have helped me achieve less

painful intercourse (NOTE: not pain free, but less painful):

1) Estrace: applied topically (about 1 " strip) to labia minora (both

sides) and to Bartholin glands. This has accounted for a near 75%

reduction in pain with intercourse.

2) Being VERY aroused: I don't know if I get to a point where I just

don't care about the pain, or if the increased secretions help, or what

exactly - but I have even achieved completely pain free intercourse one

time when I was incredibly aroused.

3) Astroglide: an excellent lubricant, which I use even if I am very

lubricated already from my own secretions. We apply it to my husband's

penis and put some into my vagina as well.

4) Relaxation (diaphragmatic) breathing: I try to really relax and be

aware of my muscles and breathing. I usually tense up my vaginal

muscles and then release them right before he enters me. While he

enters me, I exhale deeply.

5) Communication with partner: VERY important. I've found that

sometimes his positioning/angle of entrance can make a huge difference.

I tell him to aim " up " instead of " down " and that works for us.

6) Starting out with missionary position: This is the ONLY thing that

works for me. I can usually go into doggie style after we've gotten

into the rhythm of things, but I can not begin any other way besides

missionary. I also cannot have him lying on me, but rather he has to

essentially do a push up and hold himself up while he enters me.

7) Aveeno bath immediately after intercourse: This helps to get all the

'stuff' out of me - which helps a great deal to reduce irritation.

8) ICE: works wonders immediately following intercourse. The

combination of Aveeno and Ice usually prevents me from flaring up too

badly the next day.

HOPE THIS HELPS!!

> I would really like to try intercourse again someday soon and wanted

> to know if anybody had any tips to relieve the pain ie. positions,

> creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

> The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

> everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

> same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

> situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you have

fallen victim to my

> really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

> already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week. I

promise that I am

> somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> Help

>

> , NC

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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There have been a couple of things that have helped me achieve less

painful intercourse (NOTE: not pain free, but less painful):

1) Estrace: applied topically (about 1 " strip) to labia minora (both

sides) and to Bartholin glands. This has accounted for a near 75%

reduction in pain with intercourse.

2) Being VERY aroused: I don't know if I get to a point where I just

don't care about the pain, or if the increased secretions help, or what

exactly - but I have even achieved completely pain free intercourse one

time when I was incredibly aroused.

3) Astroglide: an excellent lubricant, which I use even if I am very

lubricated already from my own secretions. We apply it to my husband's

penis and put some into my vagina as well.

4) Relaxation (diaphragmatic) breathing: I try to really relax and be

aware of my muscles and breathing. I usually tense up my vaginal

muscles and then release them right before he enters me. While he

enters me, I exhale deeply.

5) Communication with partner: VERY important. I've found that

sometimes his positioning/angle of entrance can make a huge difference.

I tell him to aim " up " instead of " down " and that works for us.

6) Starting out with missionary position: This is the ONLY thing that

works for me. I can usually go into doggie style after we've gotten

into the rhythm of things, but I can not begin any other way besides

missionary. I also cannot have him lying on me, but rather he has to

essentially do a push up and hold himself up while he enters me.

7) Aveeno bath immediately after intercourse: This helps to get all the

'stuff' out of me - which helps a great deal to reduce irritation.

8) ICE: works wonders immediately following intercourse. The

combination of Aveeno and Ice usually prevents me from flaring up too

badly the next day.

HOPE THIS HELPS!!

> I would really like to try intercourse again someday soon and wanted

> to know if anybody had any tips to relieve the pain ie. positions,

> creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

> The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

> everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

> same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

> situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you have

fallen victim to my

> really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

> already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week. I

promise that I am

> somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> Help

>

> , NC

>

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First of all, I sympathize with you. Its awful to want to have intercourse

and know how much your partner does, but to have so much fear get in the

way. A couple of things that my husband I have found helpful are taking

things VERY VERY slow and not having penetration as the ultimate goal. I

have a much harder time being ready if I am worried about it, so if that's

what happens, great, if not, well that's ok too. Also, we've found

Astroglide to be much better than any other lubricants that we have tried.

Finally, and I'm sure this is different for everyone, I find postions where

I'm on top much more comfortable. It's also nice because then I can be

more in control and he doesn't have to worry so much about hurting me.

Hope this helps and good luck!

At 04:03 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote:

>From: mkbryan@...

>

>It is me again. I have been backed up with emails for a couple of weeks

and am finally able to

>start posting some of my own. I have 2 questions for everybody.

>The first one is personal and I will say in advance thank you for input.

I would really like to

>try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if anybody had any

tips to relieve the pain

>ie. positions, creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

>

>The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

>everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

>same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

>situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you have

fallen victim to my

>really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

>already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week.

I promise that I am

>somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

>suggestions?

>

>Help

>

>, NC

>

>

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First of all, I sympathize with you. Its awful to want to have intercourse

and know how much your partner does, but to have so much fear get in the

way. A couple of things that my husband I have found helpful are taking

things VERY VERY slow and not having penetration as the ultimate goal. I

have a much harder time being ready if I am worried about it, so if that's

what happens, great, if not, well that's ok too. Also, we've found

Astroglide to be much better than any other lubricants that we have tried.

Finally, and I'm sure this is different for everyone, I find postions where

I'm on top much more comfortable. It's also nice because then I can be

more in control and he doesn't have to worry so much about hurting me.

Hope this helps and good luck!

At 04:03 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote:

>From: mkbryan@...

>

>It is me again. I have been backed up with emails for a couple of weeks

and am finally able to

>start posting some of my own. I have 2 questions for everybody.

>The first one is personal and I will say in advance thank you for input.

I would really like to

>try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if anybody had any

tips to relieve the pain

>ie. positions, creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

>

>The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

>everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

>same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

>situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you have

fallen victim to my

>really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

>already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week.

I promise that I am

>somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

>suggestions?

>

>Help

>

>, NC

>

>

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First of all, I sympathize with you. Its awful to want to have intercourse

and know how much your partner does, but to have so much fear get in the

way. A couple of things that my husband I have found helpful are taking

things VERY VERY slow and not having penetration as the ultimate goal. I

have a much harder time being ready if I am worried about it, so if that's

what happens, great, if not, well that's ok too. Also, we've found

Astroglide to be much better than any other lubricants that we have tried.

Finally, and I'm sure this is different for everyone, I find postions where

I'm on top much more comfortable. It's also nice because then I can be

more in control and he doesn't have to worry so much about hurting me.

Hope this helps and good luck!

At 04:03 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote:

>From: mkbryan@...

>

>It is me again. I have been backed up with emails for a couple of weeks

and am finally able to

>start posting some of my own. I have 2 questions for everybody.

>The first one is personal and I will say in advance thank you for input.

I would really like to

>try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to know if anybody had any

tips to relieve the pain

>ie. positions, creams, dilators anything, I am desperate.

>

>The other thing that I was wondering is if anybody else is having trouble

keeping up with

>everybody. Our list is growing so large and we are even starting to have

different people with the

>same name. I feel really bad about this but I am having difficult time

remembering everybody's

>situation, age, and all of the basic info. Sorry to any of you if you have

fallen victim to my

>really bad memory but sometimes I find myself thinking that maybe I asked

somebody this question

>already or maybe somebody in another post addressed this issue last week.

I promise that I am

>somewhat sane and am not suffering from an early onset of senility. Does

anyone have any

>suggestions?

>

>Help

>

>, NC

>

>

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Hi,

What works for me when we are able to have sex:

1. Xylocaine liquid applied ten minutes or so before penetration

2. Missionary position or me on top...rear entry style hurts like h___

3. Lots of lubricant...pure vegetable oil works without irritation

4. Deep breathing and muscle relaxation on entry and throughout

5. Ice cubes afterwards and Ibuprofen for the pain

6. Wash off the semen...it can't be very irritating

Good luck!

kelly A :)

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Hi,

What works for me when we are able to have sex:

1. Xylocaine liquid applied ten minutes or so before penetration

2. Missionary position or me on top...rear entry style hurts like h___

3. Lots of lubricant...pure vegetable oil works without irritation

4. Deep breathing and muscle relaxation on entry and throughout

5. Ice cubes afterwards and Ibuprofen for the pain

6. Wash off the semen...it can't be very irritating

Good luck!

kelly A :)

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->I would really like to try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to

know if anybody had any tips to relieve the pain ie. positions, creams,

dilators anything, I am desperate.

>

>***

>

>I use xylocaine - works okay. Your doctor can write a prescription for it.

Is xylocaine like KY Jelly with local anaesthetic? If so, do you still get

all of the feeling that you would normally?

Kind regards

- vvs, POC, burning

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I've tried Lidocaine (same thing as xylocaine). YOu just put it right on

the places that hurt and nowhere else. That way you're hopefully only numb

where you want to be. Your partner has to be careful not to get it on

himself for the same reason. Be careful though, because it made my burning

much much worse because it is often in an alcohol base. Some people have

had good luck with it though.

POC, VVS

At 08:09 PM 12/10/98 +0000, you wrote:

>

>

>Hi

>

>->I would really like to try intercourse again someday soon and wanted to

>know if anybody had any tips to relieve the pain ie. positions, creams,

>dilators anything, I am desperate.

>>

>>***

>>

>>I use xylocaine - works okay. Your doctor can write a prescription for it.

>

>

>Is xylocaine like KY Jelly with local anaesthetic? If so, do you still get

>all of the feeling that you would normally?

>

>Kind regards

>

> - vvs, POC, burning

>

>.@...

>

>

>

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True, but the rest really adds up... according to what I read about

Illinois, they should be paying for everything. It stipulated lancets,

meters, strips, etc.

Sandy

Same in mass, I'm on medicare and hmo, its the law

carol

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At 11:25 AM 9/9/00 -0400,DianneFlono@... you wrote:

>I've just recently been diagnosed with diabetes type II. I haven't attended

>any classes yet. I'm not sure what type of diet I should be on. Any

>suggestions would greatly be appreciated. My Dr. suggested Weight Watchers.

You should point your browser to: www.diabetes.org , and they are have good

tips on diabetes diet.

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At 04:30 PM 9/9/00 -0400,DianneFlono@... you wrote:

>My Dr. has me sticking my fingers 4 times a day. Before each meal and at bed

>time. My readings seem to average around 150. I'm trying to get it below

>110. He wrote me a prescriptions for the meter, lancets and strips. My

>insurance company will only cover the strips. That seems like the most

>expensive part. I do notice if I eat bread or cereal my blood sugar goes up.

>

Ask your local Phamarcy for promotion of free meter. that how I get my.

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> Same in mass, I'm on medicare and hmo, its the law

Seems like our insurance companies are getting away with a lot! Of course,

if they have to pay for more, they'll just charge more for the insurance.

Sandy

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How do you keep the lancet sterile? How do I store them after I use it for

next time? The nurse at my Dr.'s office told me to use the lancets only

once. Using them more than once will save me money. Dianne

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The strips are indeed the most expensive part! You can get a free meter

from many companies cause they want you to buy their strips :0

Re: sticking your finger... if you're type II and not on insulin, sticking

your finger BEFORE you eat isn't telling you much. You need to stick your

finger 1 1/2 to 2 hrs AFTER you eat. This will tell you what the food you

ate is doing toyour bg's. If you're 150 before you eat, you're probably a

lot higher after you eat.

Carbs (cereal,bread,pasta,rice,potatoes etc) will indeed drive your bg's up

quite a bit. I do Atkins - controls them very well

Meenie

>

> My Dr. has me sticking my fingers 4 times a day. Before each meal and at

bed

> time. My readings seem to average around 150. I'm trying to get it below

> 110. He wrote me a prescriptions for the meter, lancets and strips. My

> insurance company will only cover the strips. That seems like the most

> expensive part. I do notice if I eat bread or cereal my blood sugar goes

up.

>

>

>

>

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I only use a couple of lancet's a year :) unless I test someone else's

blood, then of course I change lancets.

Meenie

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>

> He wrote me a prescriptions for the meter, lancets and strips. My

> > insurance company will only cover the strips. That seems like the most

> > expensive part

>

> True, but the rest really adds up... according to what I read about

> Illinois, they should be paying for everything. It stipulated lancets,

> meters, strips, etc.

>

> Sandy

>

>

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>

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In a message dated 9/10/2000 4:31:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sandy46@... writes:

<< However, my diabetes educator told me that " you can't infect yourself. " >>

Yep, people tend to be fluid bonded to themselves. :)

I was jawing away while in the dentist chair the other day talking with my

hands while the Novocain was taking effect and I was swishin' my hands

everywhere and stabbed myself with the dental needle. The dentist changed

needles; I said she didn't need to because I was fluid bonded to me. As

funny as she thought that was, she changed it just the same. Wonder what

that cost me?

a J.

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Diane. Lancets aree stainleess steel, they seem to have no blood on

them. I leave them undisturbed in the lance. I leave my tapes in the

meter when done to dry out, then they don't stain anything, can be

disposed of easily. Sam

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> How do you keep the lancet sterile? How do I store them after I use it

for

> next time? The nurse at my Dr.'s office told me to use the lancets only

> once. Using them more than once will save me money

Personally, I only use them once.... I'm a worry wart, and it's not worth

worrying about. However, my diabetes educator told me that " you can't

infect yourself. " She was telling me to use one a day.

Sandy

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