what makes hormones exactly?

April 23, 2009

>ovaries produce hormones. cysts are probably a result of insufficient or

overabundance of a specific hormone.

I thought mature follicles themselves produce estradiol, and corpus luteum

progesterone.

Not just the ovarian tissue--- although both of those things are technically

ovarian tissue - but present in the ovary at different points in the cycle....

so for example, if your mom smoked while pregnant with you or ate a bunch of

pesticides, you could have damaged follicles which don't produce enough E.....

am I correct??

As far as I know there are several different kinds of ovarian cysts..

follicular, luteal, not sure what type PCOS cysts are.. etc. Not sure wether

they produce hormones or not.. it probably depends on the type?

I feel (not confirmed yet) like I get a follicular cyst every month.. like my

ovary has a hard time ovulating.. dull pain for about 4 days.

Last month I tried putting on a bunch of estradiol immediately when I felt the

ache, and it went away very quickly - I'm thinking i made myself ovulate more

efficiently..

LH and FSH levels are normal, so I'm thinking I've got whimpy follicles which

don't produce enough E to pop themselves.

Interestingly, the luteal phase of that month was horrible!! Super sore breasts

and very bloated... maybe a good E spike at midcycle means a perhaps " overly

healthy " corpus luteum and a much " too healthy " P level? I already know I make

lots of P anyway.

Ok guess I got side tracked talking about my own cyst issues..

Going to see a gynecological endocrinologist here in Berlin.. hope he is worth

it.

Thus far every doctor I have seen looks at me like I'm completely crazy when I

tell them I take SRT3 and where can I find a compounding pharmacy? And it is

illegal to import prescription meds.

christina

-- In rhythmicliving , " wild.dingo " wrote:

>

> No. But i also have no idea what you mean. ovaries produce hormones. cysts are

probably a result of insufficient or overabundance of a specific hormone. but

i'm not entirely educated on cysts so i don't know. but i don't believe cysts

themselves don't produce hormones. Unless i'm completely wrong here and someone

could chime in and correct me. I'm not educated enough on the topic.

> julie

>

> > > >

> > > > I have to celebrate. Just got back from the OB/GYN who took an

ultrasound re-test of my ovaries. I was so ready to make the excuse that i

didn't have my date book with me so i'd have to call to schedule the " biopsy "

(if she suggested it) etc... but turns out, i dont' have to do anything at

all...

> > > >

> > > > My right ovary showed 2 follicles which she said is probalby my

ovulating ovary (since i'm back off the pill), and not concerned.

> > > >

> > > > My left ovary has ONE cyst, and it measures smaller than it did last

year. last year it measured 2.4 cm in june and 2.3 in july and now it measures 2

cm. so it's shrinking. (hmmm...maybe iodine working very slowly?)

> > > >

> > > > the " eco-genic mass " that they had originally found last year, is not on

any ovary. it's gone.

> > > >

> > > > Prior tests last year showed both ovaries had tons of follicles in them.

i suspect it was due to my body trying to become regular post WP. I had that

ultrasound done last year right around the time i was detoxing or just after

detoxing the rest of the WP out of my body. so i think my ovaries just went

berzerk.

> > > >

> > > > she " lightly " suggested a ca125, but only if i was concerned, but since

i already had that test, and it was negative, i didn't opt for it. and she said

since it was shrinking and I have no pain, not a big deal. She suggested we just

retest in a year to see if it grows and thats it!

> > > >

> > > > YAY! i can go back to focusing on thryoid...

> > > >

> > > > i had to laugh when she said " but you need some form of birth

control... " ya.... like i need a hole in the head. I'm 40 and married. Its not

like I'm 15, without a husband or a job. I think i could handle a baby if there

was an " accident. " (not likely tho, since we're careful.)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 23, 2009

" so for example, if your mom smoked while pregnant with you or ate a bunch

of pesticides, you could have damaged follicles which don't produce enough

E..... am I correct?? "

Do you have a reference for that?

Val

-----Original Message-----

From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

On Behalf Of christina

April 23, 2009

http://health.usnews.com/usnews/health/healthday/071121/smoking-before-after-pre\

gnancy-harms-daughters-fertility.htm

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/kwm351v1

and there is this PCOS website...

" Why Eggs Won't Pop and Progesterone Isn't Made

But what causes dysfunctional follicles that won't release eggs? I am convinced,

from wildlife studies and from what I have observed in my practice, this is due

to the exposure of female embryos to xenobiotics, environmental pollutants which

chemically act like estrogen on the developing baby's tissues.

When a female embryo develops in the womb, 500 to 800 thousand follicles are

created, each enclosing an immature ovum. Studies show that the creation of

ovarian follicles during this embryo stage is exquisitely sensitive to the

toxicity of xenobiotics. When the mother is exposed to these chemicals, she

experiences no apparent damage. But the baby she is carrying is far more

susceptible, and these chemicals may damage a female embryo's ovarian follicles

and make them dysfunctional; unable to complete ovulation or manufacture

sufficient progesterone. This damage is not apparent until after puberty. "

http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/pcos.html

this is a progesterone promoting website (maybe not the most solid reference)

but thought the info about damaged follicles was interesting.. in addition, I

don't understand why the " answer " to PCOS is to supplement with P instead of E

to induce ovulation...and thus endogenous P.

I don't have any of Vliet's books anymore (gave them to friends) but I seem to

remember her always discussing the role of various pesticides/chemicals and

smoking in regards to fertility as well.

-christina

-- In rhythmicliving , " Valarie " wrote:

>

> " so for example, if your mom smoked while pregnant with you or ate a bunch

> of pesticides, you could have damaged follicles which don't produce enough

> E..... am I correct?? "

>

> Do you have a reference for that?

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

> On Behalf Of christina

>

April 23, 2009