Re: New member intro

[Guest guest]

Welcome, your sugars are really good. I am still concerned about my

150's-160's during the lunch time hour but otherwise I guess I'm doing

okay. Once again welcome and this is a great crowd of people!

Debbie Lake on 03/09/2001 09:45:56 AM

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Hi there,

I'm a new member and just thought I should introduce myself to the list.  I

am 34 years old and was diagosed with Type II diabetes two years ago.  I

also have an underactive thyroid and PCOS.  I currently take 75 mcg of

synthroid and 1500 mg Glucophage.  My blood sugar has been good - staying

within the range of 100 - 10 for the most part.  When it goes higher I know

exactly what the cause was (usually a chocolate craving that got met ;-).

My goal is to really monitor my diet and actually get off the Glucophage

altogether.  I am beginning to explore the Zone diet as a possible way to

achieve this goal.

My father had Type I diabetes and took insulin 3 times a day.

Unfortunately

he also had a drinking problem and did not watch his diet.  He passed away

2

years ago yesterday of complications due to the diabetes.  Needless to say

when I learned that I had diabetes I was terrified - to me this was a death

sentence.  But I have found some excellent resources that have helped me

gain control of this disease and learn to live with it.

On a personal note I have been married for 15 years and live in NYC (yup a

born & bred New Yawker!)

I look forward to participating in the group.

Live long & prosper,

Deb

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[Guest guest]

Hi Deb,

Welcome to the group

Yes, Zone can help you with your bg's if you aren't too far progressed. If not, move up to Atkins, Bernstein, or Eades.

I follow Atkins and love it. No meds, and bg's run 75 - 125.

I can understand your fear of diabetes, but with good control you can lay those fears aside

Meenie

Hi there,I'm a new member and just thought I should introduce myself to the list. Iam 34 years old and was diagosed with Type II diabetes two years ago. Ialso have an underactive thyroid and PCOS. I currently take 75 mcg ofsynthroid and 1500 mg Glucophage. My blood sugar has been good - stayingwithin the range of 100 - 10 for the most part. When it goes higher I knowexactly what the cause was (usually a chocolate craving that got met ;-). My goal is to really monitor my diet and actually get off the Glucophagealtogether. I am beginning to explore the Zone diet as a possible way toachieve this goal.My father had Type I diabetes and took insulin 3 times a day. Unfortunatelyhe also had a drinking problem and did not watch his diet. He passed away 2years ago yesterday of complications due to the diabetes. Needless to saywhen I learned that I had diabetes I was terrified - to me this was a deathsentence. But I have found some excellent resources that have helped megain control of this disease and learn to live with it.On a personal note I have been married for 15 years and live in NYC (yup aborn & bred New Yawker!)I look forward to participating in the group.Live long & prosper,Deb

[Guest guest]

Hi, , I am fairly new here and was diagnosed Valentines day.

Its scary at first( I'm still going through that), but you are on the

right track, surfing and learning as much as you can. The people on

this list are caring, and will all give you great advise, I'm sorry,

I don't have great advise yet, I'm still new and confused. I don't

know the bgs where you are. Don't be afraid to ask anything on this

list, you will get some great help. The big thing I learned so far

from friends is STAY AWAY FROM WHITE CARBS! Like potatoes, rice, etc.

Potatoes make me feel stoned, and I definately know shoot up my bgs

really fast. Also, don't be afraid to share your feelings here,

lonely, depressed, angry, everyone feels that way now and again.

I'm sorry you have to wait so long to get in to someone. Have you

checked around to see if there is somewhere you can get in to sooner?

That happened to me, and I got in sooner somewhere else. Hang in

there.

Debbie in WVC

> Hi,

>

> I am new as of today, have been diagnosed last week.

> For now, I am on my own til the end of April, diabetes

> clinic and dietetician having long waiting lists in my

> town so I know next to nothing. For the past week

> I've been surfing and reading and watching my carb

> intake and as the Dr. asked, taking my bg level twice

> a day. I am in Canada so the bg level is not written

> the same as you. Is there an equivalence table

> somewhere?

>

> What about Atkins diet? Isn't ketosis dangerous for

> diabetic people? LOoking forward to learn more

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

denise; welcome to this group. whenever you need someone to talk there

is usually someone here, because of the different time zones. even though

we have a lot of fun we can get serious.

purrrs,

maureen =^..^=

>Hi,

>

>I am new as of today, have been diagnosed last week.

>For now, I am on my own til the end of April, diabetes

>clinic and dietetician having long waiting lists in my

>town so I know next to nothing. For the past week

>I've been surfing and reading and watching my carb

>intake and as the Dr. asked, taking my bg level twice

>a day. I am in Canada so the bg level is not written

>the same as you. Is there an equivalence table

>somewhere?

>

>What about Atkins diet? Isn't ketosis dangerous for

>diabetic people? LOoking forward to learn more

>

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Welcome to the group

I follow Atkins and it's great. My bg's which were 200+ are now between 75 - 125 on Atkins. You're confusing DKA (Diabetic Keto-Acidosis) with BDK (Benign Dietary Ketosis). Ketones show up in the urine in both. Ketones are produced whenever fat is destroyed (lipolysis). The important thing is Why is the fat destroyed?

When you are dieting and losing weight, obviously you know why and are happy about it.

If you are losing a lot of weight and aren't dieting, then thats a problem. If your diet is out of control and your bg's are extremely high, you can go into DKA (usually Type I, but possible for Type II)Sudden weight loss is one of the symptoms, as are nausea and vomiting, etc.

If you are showing ketones, you are losing weight on purpose, and your bg's are low the ketones are just a sign of the fat that is being burned off.

Take a look at www.atkinscenter.com for more info on Atkins and click on the magazine link there for the first two weeks of the diet.

Meenie

What about Atkins diet? Isn't ketosis dangerous fordiabetic people? LOoking forward to learn more

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the warm welcome Debbie, Maureen and

Meenie. Thanks for the equiv. chart too. For the

first time since Monday my bg dropped to 100 just by

eating mostly proteins and a salad. Kind of Atkins

diet without knowing it. It was between 150 and 200

all week. I found an old book about it and will try

to find a more recent one. What I need to find too is

a chart telling how many grams of carbs for given

food. Meanwhile, can someone tell me if olives,

hearts of palm and cheddar cheese are too high in

carbs?

Thank you again

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

WTG !

Thats great !

There is a carb counter at www.locarbliving.com/ccounter.html

olives: green: 5 lg =0.3 g. black: 5 lg = 1.4 g

hearts of palm: couldn;t find

cheese: it depends on the kind. You have to read the labels. I eat plenty of cheddar and American.

Thank you for the warm welcome Debbie, Maureen andMeenie. Thanks for the equiv. chart too. For thefirst time since Monday my bg dropped to 100 just byeating mostly proteins and a salad. Kind of Atkinsdiet without knowing it. It was between 150 and 200all week. I found an old book about it and will tryto find a more recent one. What I need to find too isa chart telling how many grams of carbs for givenfood. Meanwhile, can someone tell me if olives,hearts of palm and cheddar cheese are too high incarbs? Thank you again__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne:

My name is Winnie, and I wanted lend a little support. I have not been diagnosed with optic neuritis, but I have been diagnosed with MS. Two years ago this past November. My main symptoms have been numbness and muscle coordination. It's like a roller coaster, the different things that happen to your body. I, too, thought I had cancer, so when the neurologist told me it was MS, I said yeah. It really is the better of two evils. To answer one of your questions, yes, definitely call your neuro and tell her about your other symptoms. They will help her with your diagnosis.

Anyway, welcome. I know you will enjoy the group, as I have. I really wish we all had no reason to be here, but everyone on this list is wonderful, and they are all a great sense of support, no matter what time of day or night.

Keep us posted, Anne.

winnie

Hi Everyone!I have joined the group looking for people who know what I am going through.I have recently been having medical troubles with my eyesight going bad in one eye. So far they have sent me for an MRI and ruled out a tumor (YEAH!), but there is a possiblity it is MS starting. This all started in September, so it's been 3 months and I basically know nothing yet about what or why I have been experiencing this. I have seen an opthomologist who has said it's optic neuritis and a neurologist. The neurologist confirmed there are 3 lesions on my brain but said that is a low number for someone with MS but it could still be possible. She is sending me for a follow up MRI in January. She said they don't diagnose MS until you've had 2-3 different episodes within a certain amount of time. After seeing her I started doing reasearch online and I believe I have had other symptoms that I did not go to the doctor about because they did not seem important enough at the time and they resolved themselves.One was I believe comprehension problems. I work as a waitress, and for a period of time earlier this year I would not be able to understand when people were talking to me. I could see their lips moving but did not know what they were saying. I thought I was just overtired or stressed. Is this a normal occurance?!Another one was episodes of dizziness when I was rising, laying down or bending over. Again, it did not happen all the time or even everyday but regular enough to be bothersome, and then seemed to go away on it's own.Also I've had weeks where I have to have a nap in the day because I'm so tired I can't even keep my eyes open and other weeks where I'm just fine.I did not mention these to the doctor because frankly I forgot about them until i was doing research, is it something I should phone her about just to let her know?!The neurolgist is also doing genetic testing because they belive my optic neuritis is not "typical" as I am not experiencing eye pain with it. She thinks it could be lebers disease. I have not yet heard back about the testing, but she did send me for more blood work, do you think that's a good sign or a bad one?!I'd love to hear from someone else who has experience the optic neuritis to see how long it lasted for you, etc.If you've made it this far, THANK YOU!! I'd appreciate any thing you have to offer in the way of advice or support.Anne Hi Everyone!I have joined the group looking for people who know what I am going through.I have recently been having medical troubles with my eyesight going bad in one eye. So far they have sent me for an MRI and ruled out a tumor (YEAH!), but there is a possiblity it is MS starting. This all started in September, so it's been 3 months and I basically know nothing yet about what or why I have been experiencing this. I have seen an opthomologist who has said it's optic neuritis and a neurologist. The neurologist confirmed there are 3 lesions on my brain but said that is a low number for someone with MS but it could still be possible. She is sending me for a follow up MRI in January. She said they don't diagnose MS until you've had 2-3 different episodes within a certain amount of time. After seeing her I started doing reasearch online and I believe I have had other symptoms that I did not go to the doctor about because they did not seem important enough at the time and they resolved themselves.One was I believe comprehension problems. I work as a waitress, and for a period of time earlier this year I would not be able to understand when people were talking to me. I could see their lips moving but did not know what they were saying. I thought I was just overtired or stressed. Is this a normal occurance?!Another one was episodes of dizziness when I was rising, laying down or bending over. Again, it did not happen all the time or even everyday but regular enough to be bothersome, and then seemed to go away on it's own.Also I've had weeks where I have to have a nap in the day because I'm so tired I can't even keep my eyes open and other weeks where I'm just fine.I did not mention these to the doctor because frankly I forgot about them until i was doing research, is it something I should phone her about just to let her know?!The neurolgist is also doing genetic testing because they belive my optic neuritis is not "typical" as I am not experiencing eye pain with it. She thinks it could be lebers disease. I have not yet heard back about the testing, but she did send me for more blood work, do you think that's a good sign or a bad one?!I'd love to hear from someone else who has experience the optic neuritis to see how long it lasted for you, etc.If you've made it this far, THANK YOU!! I'd appreciate any thing you have to offer in the way of advice or support.Anne

[Guest guest]

I have had 2 bouts with optical neuritis, both in my left eye, one lasted a week, the other lasted longer and I took solu-medrol for it. My eyesight is still messed up, but getting better. I love to read and paint so my eyesight problems really scare me. I did have pain in my eye both times, the first time it was less.

I wish you well, hope you find the answers you need.

Bette

[Guest guest]

Hey Anne,

My MS was diagnosed after a bout with ON. Had eye paralysis and double vision with no previous ms episodes. Don't know how they diagnosed me unless they did things differently back then. Been almost 15 years since my diagnosis.

The dizzy spells sound like a blood pressure issue. I think it's called orthostatic blood pressure: you get dizzy getting up too fast.

Fatigue is the number one symptom of MS. That would definitely be something to tell your doc. There are medications that can help.

I was a lot like you. It wasn't until they diagnosed me and I was reading literature on MS that I realized I had had a whole gamut of symptoms, but brushed them off because I was otherwise healthy. Carpal tunnel syndrome, numbness in extremities. coordination issues, etc.

Well, 15 years later and I've had about every symptom in the book. But, you hang in there. MS is not the worst disease; I can think of a few that are worse. Take it a day at a time until they diagnosed you and that journal suggestion was a good one.

Take care and keep us posted.

Ann in Virginia

Re: New member intro

Hi Anne:

My name is Winnie, and I wanted lend a little support. I have not been diagnosed with optic neuritis, but I have been diagnosed with MS. Two years ago this past November. My main symptoms have been numbness and muscle coordination. It's like a roller coaster, the different things that happen to your body. I, too, thought I had cancer, so when the neurologist told me it was MS, I said yeah. It really is the better of two evils. To answer one of your questions, yes, definitely call your neuro and tell her about your other symptoms. They will help her with your diagnosis.

Anyway, welcome. I know you will enjoy the group, as I have. I really wish we all had no reason to be here, but everyone on this list is wonderful, and they are all a great sense of support, no matter what time of day or night.

Keep us posted, Anne.

winnie

Hi Everyone!I have joined the group looking for people who know what I am going through.I have recently been having medical troubles with my eyesight going bad in one eye. So far they have sent me for an MRI and ruled out a tumor (YEAH!), but there is a possiblity it is MS starting. This all started in September, so it's been 3 months and I basically know nothing yet about what or why I have been experiencing this. I have seen an opthomologist who has said it's optic neuritis and a neurologist. The neurologist confirmed there are 3 lesions on my brain but said that is a low number for someone with MS but it could still be possible. She is sending me for a follow up MRI in January. She said they don't diagnose MS until you've had 2-3 different episodes within a certain amount of time. After seeing her I started doing reasearch online and I believe I have had other symptoms that I did not go to the doctor about because they did not seem important enough at the time and they resolved themselves.One was I believe comprehension problems. I work as a waitress, and for a period of time earlier this year I would not be able to understand when people were talking to me. I could see their lips moving but did not know what they were saying. I thought I was just overtired or stressed. Is this a normal occurance?!Another one was episodes of dizziness when I was rising, laying down or bending over. Again, it did not happen all the time or even everyday but regular enough to be bothersome, and then seemed to go away on it's own.Also I've had weeks where I have to have a nap in the day because I'm so tired I can't even keep my eyes open and other weeks where I'm just fine.I did not mention these to the doctor because frankly I forgot about them until i was doing research, is it something I should phone her about just to let her know?!The neurolgist is also doing genetic testing because they belive my optic neuritis is not "typical" as I am not experiencing eye pain with it. She thinks it could be lebers disease. I have not yet heard back about the testing, but she did send me for more blood work, do you think that's a good sign or a bad one?!I'd love to hear from someone else who has experience the optic neuritis to see how long it lasted for you, etc.If you've made it this far, THANK YOU!! I'd appreciate any thing you have to offer in the way of advice or support.Anne Hi Everyone!I have joined the group looking for people who know what I am going through.I have recently been having medical troubles with my eyesight going bad in one eye. So far they have sent me for an MRI and ruled out a tumor (YEAH!), but there is a possiblity it is MS starting. This all started in September, so it's been 3 months and I basically know nothing yet about what or why I have been experiencing this. I have seen an opthomologist who has said it's optic neuritis and a neurologist. The neurologist confirmed there are 3 lesions on my brain but said that is a low number for someone with MS but it could still be possible. She is sending me for a follow up MRI in January. She said they don't diagnose MS until you've had 2-3 different episodes within a certain amount of time. After seeing her I started doing reasearch online and I believe I have had other symptoms that I did not go to the doctor about because they did not seem important enough at the time and they resolved themselves.One was I believe comprehension problems. I work as a waitress, and for a period of time earlier this year I would not be able to understand when people were talking to me. I could see their lips moving but did not know what they were saying. I thought I was just overtired or stressed. Is this a normal occurance?!Another one was episodes of dizziness when I was rising, laying down or bending over. Again, it did not happen all the time or even everyday but regular enough to be bothersome, and then seemed to go away on it's own.Also I've had weeks where I have to have a nap in the day because I'm so tired I can't even keep my eyes open and other weeks where I'm just fine.I did not mention these to the doctor because frankly I forgot about them until i was doing research, is it something I should phone her about just to let her know?!The neurolgist is also doing genetic testing because they belive my optic neuritis is not "typical" as I am not experiencing eye pain with it. She thinks it could be lebers disease. I have not yet heard back about the testing, but she did send me for more blood work, do you think that's a good sign or a bad one?!I'd love to hear from someone else who has experience the optic neuritis to see how long it lasted for you, etc.If you've made it this far, THANK YOU!! I'd appreciate any thing you have to offer in the way of advice or support.Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

Welcome. )

Often a doctor's personal preferences have a lot to do with their own dx protocols. I know MSers who have been dx'd after their initial bout of symptoms. ON is a good one and, from what I recall, doesn't always come with pain. Also, MSers can begin displaying symptoms for some time before the lesions appear, but I don't know if there's a "number" of lesions needed for dx.

Definitely make note of the symptoms you realize you have or have had and share them with your Neuro, through a phone call or fax. ) I try to keep track of my symptoms in a journal, but don't do so well.

The cognitive issues you experienced are important. How frustrating that must have been, in your job especially. I worked as a waitress while going through college, then some years later picked up a some weekends for a second income. I enjoyed it, but didn't have the cognitive problems at that time.

The dizziness... can you clarify? I'm reading that you had an episode of dizziness that lasted for a certain time? And/Or, in that certain time there were activities when the dizziness was really pronounced?

Fatigue is a big problem and also warrants sharing with your Neuro.

There were many things I didn't mention to my Neuro, mostly because I didn't pull out the sheet of paper where they were listed. <g> I sat trying to remember each, looking to my husband for help, and he smiled and said "memory?" and I laughed "oh yeah..." lol

I'm in the process of finding my dx now. I've had symptoms for a number of years and have at last begun the process. I've had the labs, and am waiting on my MRI now. My Mother has MS and I'm thankful for the chance to learn through/with her.

Here's a site I found helpful in looking over some symptoms. It's a good list and a nice starting point, I found, especially as I realized how many symptoms I truly did have. It's simply formatted and doesn't leave me tuning out or going blank. <gg>

http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/mssymptoms.html

Challis

Hi Everyone!I have joined the group looking for people who know what I am going through.I have recently been having medical troubles with my eyesight going bad in one eye. So far they have sent me for an MRI and ruled out a tumor (YEAH!), but there is a possiblity it is MS starting. This all started in September, so it's been 3 months and I basically know nothing yet about what or why I have been experiencing this. I have seen an opthomologist who has said it's optic neuritis and a neurologist. The neurologist confirmed there are 3 lesions on my brain but said that is a low number for someone with MS but it could still be possible. She is sending me for a follow up MRI in January. She said they don't diagnose MS until you've had 2-3 different episodes within a certain amount of time. After seeing her I started doing reasearch online and I believe I have had other symptoms that I did not go to the doctor about because they did not seem important enough at the time and they resolved themselves.One was I believe comprehension problems. I work as a waitress, and for a period of time earlier this year I would not be able to understand when people were talking to me. I could see their lips moving but did not know what they were saying. I thought I was just overtired or stressed. Is this a normal occurance?!Another one was episodes of dizziness when I was rising, laying down or bending over. Again, it did not happen all the time or even everyday but regular enough to be bothersome, and then seemed to go away on it's own.Also I've had weeks where I have to have a nap in the day because I'm so tired I can't even keep my eyes open and other weeks where I'm just fine.I did not mention these to the doctor because frankly I forgot about them until i was doing research, is it something I should phone her about just to let her know?!The neurolgist is also doing genetic testing because they belive my optic neuritis is not "typical" as I am not experiencing eye pain with it. She thinks it could be lebers disease. I have not yet heard back about the testing, but she did send me for more blood work, do you think that's a good sign or a bad one?!I'd love to hear from someone else who has experience the optic neuritis to see how long it lasted for you, etc.If you've made it this far, THANK YOU!! I'd appreciate any thing you have to offer in the way of advice or support.Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

Welcome to the group!!

You're well on your way to getting off the Klonopin.

Congratulations! The key to the rest of it will be going slowly

(5-10% reductions at a time) and giving your body good

nutritional support.

Take a look at the Files and the archives--there is a ton of

great information in there. Read the Basic Healing Protocol and

Eating for Withdrawal

(http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/fil

es/) for starters.

<< recently

started taking super omega-3 gel caps (CVS) that have fish, flax

and

borage oil. I take 2 a day which gives me 800 mg of each oil >>

***You will find that you get more benefit from Carlson's liquid

fish oil. It contains far more of the most necessary essential

fatty acids. There are some articles about fish oil and one that

compares various brands here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/files/Supplements/.

<<along with

a liquid cal/mag and multi vit every day>>

***You're on the right track with the supplements, but I would

suggest some changes. Years of experience have shown us some

supplements that are truly effective. They're outlined in the

Basic Healing Protocol. Take a look at it and feel free to ask

whatever questions come to mind.

I'm glad you found us. I wish you well in your recovery.

Warmly,

Kim

(Co-moderator)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

Welcome to the group!!

***You will find that you get more benefit from Carlson's liquid

fish oil. It contains far more of the most necessary essential

fatty acids. There are some articles about fish oil and one that

compares various brands here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/files/

Supplements/.

Warmly,

Kim

(Co-moderator)

Hi I read the files and am concerned about the amount of vit E. I am on

meds for hypertension and have been in control for several years. I

hear a lot of this vitamin can raise my BP. My daily intake is 40 iu at

this time but don't know what that translates to in mg. Thanks for any

advice. Donna

[Guest guest]

Dear Donna,

You said:

<<Hi I read the files and am concerned about the amount of vit E. I

am on meds for hypertension and have been in control for several

years. I hear a lot of this vitamin can raise my BP. My daily intake

is 40 iu at this time but don't know what that translates to in mg.

Thanks for any advice. >>

The Food and Nutrition Board (FNB),

a unit of the National Academy of Sciences, oversees the development

and updating of Dietary Reference Intakes (DRIs)which include

Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) and Adequate Intakes (AIs)as

well as other standards for human nutrition states that 600IU is

adequate for people with high blood pressure.

To convert Vit E milligrams to IU, multiply mg.x 1.5. So, 10 mg of

Vit E = 15 IU of Vit E.

Are you taking magnesium? If so, how much? How much unchlorinated

water do you drink daily?

Regards,

>

> ***You will find that you get more benefit from Carlson's liquid

> fish oil. It contains far more of the most necessary essential

> fatty acids. There are some articles about fish oil and one that

> compares various brands here:

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/files/

> Supplements/.

>

[Guest guest]

Donna, I also wanted to add that there is medical literature to

support Vit E as helpful in reducing blood pressure.

C

[Guest guest]

I too have heard that rescue remedy is wonderful for all sorts of things.

new member intro

Hi I am withdrawing from 9 years use of klonopin. My biggest dosage was 1mg and I am now taking .25 which I have been on for almost a month. I have found that rescue remedy and Hylands Calms forte to be very helpful. I also take meds for diabetes , hypertension and gastric reflux but no other psych meds. My weight is normal. I recently started taking super omega-3 gel caps (CVS) that have fish, flax and borage oil. I take 2 a day which gives me 800 mg of each oil along with a liquid cal/mag and multi vit every day. I am taking it sometimes an hour at a time sometimes a day at a time.I belong to several groups and will take all the info I can get. DonnaTo subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/

[Guest guest]

Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) and Adequate Intakes (AIs)as

well as other standards for human nutrition states that 600IU is

adequate for people with high blood pressure.

To convert Vit E milligrams to IU, multiply mg.x 1.5. So, 10 mg of

Vit E = 15 IU of Vit E.

Are you taking magnesium? If so, how much? How much unchlorinated

water do you drink daily?

Regards,

Hi catherine thanks for the information. I take a liquid cal-mag I got

at the health food store. Its made by nutraceutacal and per dose has

600 cal 300 mag and 300 phos. The dose is 1 tablespoon a day. I have a

brita filter system for my water so its always filtered I drink 10-12

glasses a day not counting tea. Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi christina;

So tell us what have you tried that you are getting better. Share, share

share. I am excited to here your story.

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