Re: Topper's hyper state and adrenal reaction

[Guest guest]

I think you're absolutely right here, , and I'd almost lay a wager on

it. If you remember, I'm a night worker, and you know there's got to be

some reason for that. The way I got started on that was because what my

sleep pattern had become (everything you describe), starting about 7 yrs

ago, due to lifelong stressors, thyroids, etc...We know the story. Anyway,

I was doing early morning days on the nursing floor. Yes, that is a more

stressful shift in many ways, but I was extremely strong, lithe, fast, and

gregarious, so I was perfectly suited to that. But when my thyroid began to

fail even more, after around 3 yrs already on T4, I wondered what was

happening to me. I began to be very lethargic in the morning, having to

build up to my day's work emtionally and physically, but then, when I got

off work at 2 in the afternoon, I would be tired, etc...not go to sleep...I

would fight that because I knew that I would be unable to get up at 4 in the

morning for work, if I went to sleep in the afternoon. Low and behold, I

STILL would come wide awake at around 8 at night, despite having only 4-5

hrs the night before, and feeling so tired all day!!! I did not feel

nervous at that time, just extremely wide awake, and all my senses were

alive. I could do my best thinking at night, get the most work done,

etc.....Sooo, I got the vertigo that I have described before, got extremely

ill, and put in a request for the night shift. What little medical care

that I got during that time said that it was probably inner ear, but, I have

since learned about autoimmune disease of the inner ear, and this is what I

believe happened---the thyroid, the inner ear, and extreme adrenal fatigue,

all at the same time (this is the nearest I can figure because no doctor

around me ever had enough sense to even try to figure it out). I went to

the night shift for 4 and one half yrs. I then made an attempt to

straighten out the sleep pattern by starting on an evening shift for one yr,

but it was still impossible to do for ME. I enjoyed my job during the day

sometime after I was there (2 pm), but when I got up in the morning, I would

be nauseated for hrs, trying to get my body going, even after 7-8 hrs sleep,

day after day. It didn't work, and I requested back to the night shift.

The person who was so gregarious all her life, suddenly couldn't stand all

that noise and movement, etc...plus was STILL coming wide awake at night

(which was good on the job, since the bulk of my work was in the evening at

that time). I still, to this very day, feel wonderful at night, and crappy

in the mornings, trying to push my body to come alive. The only way it

works for me at this point, is to work at night (nursing floor), then BE

awake coming home in the mornings. This is the ONLY way that I feel good in

the mornings because I've ALREADY been awake the night before. This is how

I know that it's GOT to be adrenal in nature. I did start out on a quarter

tab of the glandulars from Nutrimeds, but I keep dropping it because after a

few days, I feel awful, with my heart pumping, can't sleep, react to my

thyroid med, too hot, blood pressure up, and myriads of other things---all

on a quarter tab. This has me puzzled, since I know that there is a problem

there. I brought my Armour down to 45 mgs, taking it with 50 mcgs of

Eutirox, and then tried again on the quarter tab of the adrenal glandular,

but kept getting the same symptoms after 3 or 4 days. I don't know what's

going on there, and that's why I said we NEED the blood testing, but alas,

the money, so I'll just wait until I can test. I'd rather be safe than

sorry.

Tx

Topper's hyper state and adrenal

reaction

> Hi gang... I just posted this over at Natural Group... but since not

> everyone here is also a member there I wanted to share this here too....

> so if you read this at Janie's... feel free to skip it here..

>

> Topper ()

[Guest guest]

... try one of the things that I was doing when I was is such crappy

shape after my RAI.... to reduce the shock of increases to my system the

endo and I figured out that I should do the increase on the third day

until I was adjusted to it.. then every other day, until I was used to it

and then every day....

.... so, for example... do a quarter tab just two mornings (read as the

start of your day) a week..... for a month???? see how you feel... That

will be 3 day/4day intervals. If you are tolerating it... then go to a

quarter tab every 3 days....... when that is going well.... go every

other day..... and, when you're ready, every day...... When you are ready

to increase... add the next quarter tab just twice a week.... and work

your way up as your body will allow, until you are at 2 quarter tabs a

day.

See.. 20-20 hindsight tells me I should have done this thyroid increase

that way... gradually adding that 6 th dose and not doing it every day..

but I was so determined that since so many others were taking more than

me, even though they had smaller body sizes... that I should be able to

do it too! WRONG... We simply have to keep in mind that we are not the

same.... some of us are more sensitive to increases and others can just

dive right in..... we have to do what is right for the body that we are

trying to fix.... not match what someone else is doing and assume that it

will work as well for us...

.... this gradual introduction suggestion for adrenal may not be the key

for you... but if you decide to check it out... well... sure would be

cool to find the key that will help your body get better... wouldn't it?

And if that isn't it... you'll know that there is a good chance that

something else is still out of whack.... and you can concentrate on

seeking it out, adrenal question will have been covered and you move on.

Topper ()

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:10:56 -0600 " " writes:

> I think you're absolutely right here, , and I'd almost lay a

> wager on

> it. If you remember, I'm a night worker, and you know there's got

> to be

> some reason for that. The way I got started on that was because

> what my

> sleep pattern had become (everything you describe), starting about 7

> yrs

> ago, due to lifelong stressors, thyroids, etc...We know the story.

> Anyway,

> I was doing early morning days on the nursing floor. Yes, that is a

> more

> stressful shift in many ways, but I was extremely strong, lithe,

> fast, and

> gregarious, so I was perfectly suited to that. But when my thyroid

> began to

> fail even more, after around 3 yrs already on T4, I wondered what

> was

> happening to me. I began to be very lethargic in the morning,

> having to

> build up to my day's work emtionally and physically, but then, when

> I got

> off work at 2 in the afternoon, I would be tired, etc...not go to

> sleep...I

> would fight that because I knew that I would be unable to get up at

> 4 in the

> morning for work, if I went to sleep in the afternoon. Low and

> behold, I

> STILL would come wide awake at around 8 at night, despite having

> only 4-5

> hrs the night before, and feeling so tired all day!!! I did not

> feel

> nervous at that time, just extremely wide awake, and all my senses

> were

> alive. I could do my best thinking at night, get the most work

> done,

> etc.....Sooo, I got the vertigo that I have described before, got

> extremely

> ill, and put in a request for the night shift. What little medical

> care

> that I got during that time said that it was probably inner ear,

> but, I have

> since learned about autoimmune disease of the inner ear, and this is

> what I

> believe happened---the thyroid, the inner ear, and extreme adrenal

> fatigue,

> all at the same time (this is the nearest I can figure because no

> doctor

> around me ever had enough sense to even try to figure it out). I

> went to

> the night shift for 4 and one half yrs. I then made an attempt to

> straighten out the sleep pattern by starting on an evening shift for

> one yr,

> but it was still impossible to do for ME. I enjoyed my job during

> the day

> sometime after I was there (2 pm), but when I got up in the morning,

> I would

> be nauseated for hrs, trying to get my body going, even after 7-8

> hrs sleep,

> day after day. It didn't work, and I requested back to the night

> shift.

> The person who was so gregarious all her life, suddenly couldn't

> stand all

> that noise and movement, etc...plus was STILL coming wide awake at

> night

> (which was good on the job, since the bulk of my work was in the

> evening at

> that time). I still, to this very day, feel wonderful at night, and

> crappy

> in the mornings, trying to push my body to come alive. The only way

> it

> works for me at this point, is to work at night (nursing floor),

> then BE

> awake coming home in the mornings. This is the ONLY way that I feel

> good in

> the mornings because I've ALREADY been awake the night before. This

> is how

> I know that it's GOT to be adrenal in nature. I did start out on a

> quarter

> tab of the glandulars from Nutrimeds, but I keep dropping it because

> after a

> few days, I feel awful, with my heart pumping, can't sleep, react to

> my

> thyroid med, too hot, blood pressure up, and myriads of other

> things---all

> on a quarter tab. This has me puzzled, since I know that there is a

> problem

> there. I brought my Armour down to 45 mgs, taking it with 50 mcgs

> of

> Eutirox, and then tried again on the quarter tab of the adrenal

> glandular,

> but kept getting the same symptoms after 3 or 4 days. I don't know

> what's

> going on there, and that's why I said we NEED the blood testing, but

> alas,

> the money, so I'll just wait until I can test. I'd rather be safe

> than

> sorry.

>

>

> Tx