Re: What Really Causes Autism?

[Guest guest]

That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about Vit D and sun

deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in

Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they never had

autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

[Guest guest]

Somalia does not have the same vaccination schedule as we do in North America. The vit D thing is also something that we are looking into though and will test and then probably get it started.

Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about Vit D and sun deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they never had autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

[Guest guest]

Somalia does not have the same vaccination schedule as we do in North America. The vit D thing is also something that we are looking into though and will test and then probably get it started.

Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about Vit D and sun deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they never had autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

[Guest guest]

Somalia does not have the same vaccination schedule as we do in North America. The vit D thing is also something that we are looking into though and will test and then probably get it started.

Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about Vit D and sun deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they never had autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

[Guest guest]

It would be interesting to do a poll and see when most of our kids

where born. I just wonder if the time of year has anything to do with

having low Vitamin D.

My daughter was born in February and we lived on the West Coast at the

time. Lots of rain and indoors a lot. Who knows?

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> Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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> That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about Vit D and

sun

> deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in

> Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they never

had

> autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

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[Guest guest]

July 26, hottest week of the summer. TN.

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> It would be interesting to do a poll and see when most of our kids

> where born. I just wonder if the time of year has anything to do with

> having low Vitamin D.

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> My daughter was born in February and we lived on the West Coast at the

> time. Lots of rain and indoors a lot. Who knows?

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[Guest guest]

In February, in the cold winter of Canada.

céline

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> > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>

> > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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> > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they

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> > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

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[Guest guest]

november 27, winter in Canada

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>Reply-To: mb12 valtrex

>To: mb12 valtrex

>Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

>Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:04:45 -0000

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>In February, in the cold winter of Canada.

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> > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>

> > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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[Guest guest]

My daughter was born in february in the cold of Chicago,Illinois. I believe there is a link, as they have mentioned.

Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:04 AM

In February, in the cold winter of Canada.céline> > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>> > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?> > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about Vit D and > sun > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they never > had > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.> >>

[Guest guest]

My son was born in August, but we live in Seattle, so little sun, plus

it seems like he was under the most " stress " when he was around 6

months -- colicky, first ear infections, etc, which was during the

winter.

My Vit. D levels were low when I had them checked this fall.

[Guest guest]

My son was born in the beginning of April in Michigan..still quite cold here then.He has red hair and is fair skinned so he wasn't outside much his first year.

"All illnesses have some hereditary contribution. Genetics loads the gun and the enviroment pulls the trigger."-Dr.Francis S.

[Guest guest]

My boys were born 14 months apart. My ASD child is the older one. I went into preterm labor with him, received 2 steroid shots, and was on magnesium sulfate for 4 days to stop labor. He ended up being born 5 days late weighing 9lbs. 9oz. scoring a 9.9 on the apgar. He regressed into autism after reaching all milestones early at about 20 months after being fully vaccinated. I did not go into preterm labor with my younger son who was born on his due date at 9lbs 2oz. He also scored 9.9 on the apgar. He was about 6 months old when my older son started to regress, so he never received another vaccine after his 6 month check up. He is very typical without any traces of autism. I firmly believe that if he had been fully vaccinated then he would have also regressed into autism. His older brother may very well

have saved him from it!

[Guest guest]

I keep coming back to this thread.

After so much reading, I do believe autism is caused by different

reasons. Obviously, no one child is alike.

In my son's case, I think it was a variety of things. They say

sometimes first born kids recieve a toxic dump from the Mom. I had a

hard time getting pregnant and had him at age 36 after trying Clomid 1

time.

I think primarily, he was predisposed. I have a 40 year old brother

who is also autistic/shizophrenic, but my poor mother who cares for

him has always said he's suffered from GI problems. He also had

terrible allergies as a child for which he had shots. Could diet and

detox made in a difference in his life? Possibly.

My husband has asthma and also suffers from allergies. I also have

food intolerances and have some kind of autoimmune issue. I've had

the rubella shot twice because it wouldn't take. So, right off the

bat, he's inherited some off gene/s.

He was a C-section, but before the birth when they thought he could be

a vaginal birth, I had pitocin, and an antibiotic drip because of a

staph infection I had.

Then you throw in a load of vaccines on his weak immune system and

that may started a more rapied ascent into this horrible state.

My son did reach his milestones although a little slow. He recognized

letters at a young age and could say words, but started to regress and

started full blown autistic behaviors around 2.

I too am outraged that there isn't enough information or enough

studies out there. I'm even more outraged that I can see various

professionals and they won't even consider suggesting something as

uninvasive as a diet change. That they think that thermiserol may have

been the only reason as to why vaccines are targeted, that they won't

see this as a medical condition, etc, etc.

Not all children are responders, but still so many kids are being lost

and can receive some form of dietary, medical intervention, in

addition to behavioral therapies that can greatly improve their lives.

Why isn't this information being disseminated in every pediatrician's

office in 2009?????? Why?

It is completely infuriating.

ex , " marciimommy " wrote:

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> My Autistic son was born July 19, 1999 in New York State (Western

New York). I had a

> fantastic pregnancy with no problems. I made sure that I sat in the

sun a little each day

> because it made me feel good. I ate all the right things (no

seafood or tuna) and made

> sure I had tons of folic acid and took my prenatal vitamins

faithfully.

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> My typical daughter was born in the same state on October 30, 2001.

I also sat in the sun

> while pregnant with her. I took my prenatal vitamins faithfully but

I wasn't as obsessed

> with eating everything so perfect this time around. ( I still

avoided seafood and tuna) I

> drank small amounts of coffee in the morning during this pregnancy

and even dyed my

> hair. I NEVER did this with my first pregnancy.

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> It makes me mad because I did everything right while being pregnant

with my son and he

> ended up Autistic. It just doesn't make sense to me. I love my

children more than

> ANYTHING in the world but like most of you, I can't help think it

might have been

> something I could have prevented. Did I clean with too much

chemicals while he was a

> baby? Did the Daycare center use too much bleach while cleaning the

toys every night? I

> could go on and on and on with the " what if's. "

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> Sorry for my ranting, I am just REALLY frustrated that we're not

further in our discovery of

> how our child was affected.

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> > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>

> > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> > > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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> > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about Vit D

> > and

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> > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in

> > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they

> > never

> > > > had

> > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

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[Guest guest]

I meant descent.

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> > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>

> > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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> > > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about

Vit D

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> > > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in

> > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they

> > > never

> > > > > had

> > > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

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[Guest guest]

I meant descent.

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> > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>

> > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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Vit D

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> > > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in

> > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they

> > > never

> > > > > had

> > > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

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[Guest guest]

I meant descent.

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> > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>

> > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM

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> > > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about

Vit D

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> > > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in

> > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they

> > > never

> > > > > had

> > > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.

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[Guest guest]

jULY 13 IN MISSISSIPPI STAYED IN THE SUNSHINE AND SO DID HE

Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 6:12 AM

July 26, hottest week of the summer. TN. >> It would be interesting to do a poll and see when most of our kids > where born. I just wonder if the time of year has anything to do with > having low Vitamin D. > > My daughter was born in February and we lived on the West Coast at the > time. Lots of rain and indoors a lot. Who knows?>

[Guest guest]

I also was given an INSANE amount of pitocin. I am curious as to how many of our kids were exposed to this drug. I have always suspected it as contributing.

To: mb12 valtrex From: cimna19@...Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:03:20 +0000Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

I meant descent.> > > > > > > > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>> > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?> > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit aboutVit D > > > and > > > > > sun > > > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in > > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they > > > never > > > > > had > > > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out.

[Guest guest]

I also was given an INSANE amount of pitocin. I am curious as to how many of our kids were exposed to this drug. I have always suspected it as contributing.

To: mb12 valtrex From: cimna19@...Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:03:20 +0000Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

I meant descent.> > > > > > > > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>> > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?> > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit aboutVit D > > > and > > > > > sun > > > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in > > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they > > > never > > > > > had > > > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out.

[Guest guest]

I also was given an INSANE amount of pitocin. I am curious as to how many of our kids were exposed to this drug. I have always suspected it as contributing.

To: mb12 valtrex From: cimna19@...Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:03:20 +0000Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

I meant descent.> > > > > > > > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>> > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?> > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit aboutVit D > > > and > > > > > sun > > > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in > > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they > > > never > > > > > had > > > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out.

[Guest guest]

Hi

My grandson (ASD) was born by emergency C section at 36 weeks. My

daughter had the Rho-gam shot after a miscarriage previously.

She also has a mouth full of mercury fillings.

Jill

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> > > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>

> > > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?

> > > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

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children in

> > > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia

where they

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> Windows Liveâ„¢: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.

Check it out.

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[Guest guest]

I was given 8 (I believe). I have 5 children. Our ASD is the 5 and

final child. None of our other children were born with disabilities.I

would have to say that the compilation of all the rhogam shots and the

mercury filling I had removed for a crown (4 months prior to preg) may

have had something to do with her autism.

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> How many moms out there were given a rho-gam shot and have a child

with Autism?

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[Guest guest]

2003 and years before that Rho-gam contained mercury. My 5 year old with Autism was born vaginally and was given all vaccines. My 3 year old has not been given any vaccines, but I was given rho-gam with both. My three year old is developing normally. I have no fillings. My three year old was taken c-section also. I work in a automotive factory where I work around aluminum and more.

Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 10:12 PM

HiMy grandson (ASD) was born by emergency C section at 36 weeks. My daughter had the Rho-gam shot after a miscarriage previously.She also has a mouth full of mercury fillings.Jill> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > From: gaztrue <gaztrue@>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?> > > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> > > > > > > Received: Friday, January 30, 2009, 3:17 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting. Kirby talks quite a bit about> Vit D > > > > and > > > > > > sun > > > > > > > deficiency in reference to the case of the Somali children in > > > > > > > Minnesota - which would have less sun than Somalia where they

> > > > never > > > > > > had > > > > > > > autism. Just a puzzle piece i suppose.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Windows Liveâ„¢: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out.>

[Guest guest]

I was not given one. I have twin boys both on the spectrum. I have a daughter who is not. When I was about 4 months preg. I got the flu shot. I have a bunch of fillings in my teeth. I did not get the flu shot when I was pregnant with my daughter.

Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:59 PM

I was given 8 (I believe). I have 5 children. Our ASD is the 5 andfinal child. None of our other children were born with disabilities. Iwould have to say that the compilation of all the rhogam shots and themercury filling I had removed for a crown (4 months prior to preg) mayhave had something to do with her autism. >> How many moms out there were given a rho-gam shot and have a childwith Autism?> >

[Guest guest]

My doctor strongly suggested that my son get the flu shot when he was about eight months old and I let them give him one. I have always thought that my son was never the same after that shot. He got sick shortly after with flu like symptoms, the ER said it was a bad ear infection and treated with an antibiotic. After that we saw hand flapping and a loss of the few words he had. At his first birthday he had no eye contact and appeared to be deaf. He could of cared less about the party, the guests, or the gifts. So basically my son has been overloaded with mercury. Starting with rho-gam, vaccines, and the flu shot.

From: joans_java <joans_javayahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: What Really Causes Autism?To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:59 PM

I was given 8 (I believe). I have 5 children. Our ASD is the 5 andfinal child. None of our other children were born with disabilities. Iwould have to say that the compilation of all the rhogam shots and themercury filling I had removed for a crown (4 months prior to preg) mayhave had something to do with her autism. >> How many moms out there were given a rho-gam shot and have a childwith Autism?> >