Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Pharmaceutical grade magnesium chloride has a relatively high level of lead - Dr Sircus would not ues it on his family nor his patients. And neither would I. You might be interested in reading this Magnesium Chloride Product Analysis http://magnesiumforlife.com/product-information/magnesium-chloride-product-analy\ sis/ Dr Sircus discusses pharmaceutical grade magnesium chloride in this article . You can get the Ancient Minerals transdermal magnesium chloride oil in half galllon jugs too. And you can also get it in magnesium chloride flakes. If you are using it in whole baths or foot baths, the flakes are a good option and they are much cheaper then the oil and the gel. About 2 weeks ago, I bought 32 pounds of the Ancient Minerals magnesium flakes. I use 4 cups or more in a whole bath, and 2 cups in a foot bath. Your body will never absorb more transdermal magnesium then it needs. Transdermal magnesium causes the body to detox so start slowly for the first week or two or you might get a herx. Download pdf Ancient Minerals Instructions http://www.ancient-minerals.com/ancient-minerals-instructions.pdf The magnesium will not be absorbed in a bath if the water is hotter then 104 degrees F. This is because our skin pores go both ways, and if we are hot we excrete toxins threw our pores and the magnesium cannot be absorbed at the same time. If the water is not so hot that we are sweating to any degree, the magnesium is absorbed for 20 minutes. But since I prefer hot baths, I start off with the water very hot and when it cools, and the magnesium can be absorbed, I stay in the bath for 20 minutes more so the magnesium can be absorbed. Also there seems to be a rumour going around that the transdermal magnesium is absorbed when it dries - this is not true at all. How fast the transdermal magnesium chloride dries externally depends on the amount of humidity in the air as well as the air flow - it has absolutely nothing to do with absorption. For example, it will dry in less the 10 minutes in my house in the winter - but in the summer it takes almost 20 minutes to dry. The transdermal magnesium always takes 20 minutes to be absrorbed by the body- always regardless if it is rubbed on, or sprayed on or absorbed in a foot bath or whole tub bath. blessings Shan > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Thanks Shan, for letting me know. It is hard to imagine that the stuff that is used in fish tanks for very tiny fish, would have toxic loads of lead as I would think it would kill them. I guess I will see if I can take a batch to my local extension office and ask them who can test it for lead content. I know that they will sometimes test well water for lead and mercury. Thanks for the heads up. I checked out the site and the Mag Flakes are still way more expensive. I guess I am getting a little jaded in my old age about a lot of products such as these, another one is the microsillica that Biopure sells in a tiny bottle for 150.00. Microsillica is a product used in the cement industry. It has to be everywhere, so why is this stuff so expensive? I don't want to be ingesting metals, but sometimes I think these companies put information out there to keep people like us from using the cheaper stuff so they can sell their own. I will check further into the lead issue and thanks again. > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Dr Mark Sircus and his research assisttant did check out the various brands of transdermal magnesium for purity/safety as well as concentration. Ancient Minerals is the only one that was pure enough that he would use it on his patients and his family. In fact, there did not used to be a distributor in North America - one had to get Anient Minerals shipped here from the Netherlands and it was way to expensive for the shipping costs. Anyways Dr Sircus found a company in North America that would be the distributor so that Ancient Minerals would be available to us too. The levels of lead in pharmaceutical grade transdermal magnesium chloride is not too high as far as the drug companies and the FDA is concerned - it depends on the standards of the person if it is too high I guess. Personally I don't want to add to the toxic load in my body - it gives me enough trouble sometimes as it is - so I will only use the purest that I can find, and that is Ancient Minerals. Plus as the concentration of magnesium is as high as it can get [31 - 35%], I think it gives results faster then other brand with lower concentrations Here is the url to the Certificate of Analysis results for Ancient Minerals - you can compare it to the results you getr for the stuff you get tested Certificate of Analysis Ancient Minerals http://www.genuinezechstein.com/genuine-zechstein-coa-a101-a901.pdf Good luck. blessings Shan > > > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 what about epsom salts? I take baths with a pound of salts and find it really helps. Does that have impurities in it? > > > > > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 from Why Magnesium Chloride http://magnesiumforlife.com/product-information/why-magnesium-chloride/ According to Reid, author of The Tao of Detox, magnesium sulfate, commonly known as Epsom salts, is rapidly excreted through the kidneys and therefore difficult to assimilate. This would explain in part why the effects from Epsom salt baths do not last long and why you need more magnesium sulfate in a bath than magnesium chloride to get similar results. Magnesium chloride is easily assimilated and metabolized in the human body. [1] My understanding is that magnesium chloride is twice as strong as epson salts or magnesium sulfate. It would depend on where it came from if it has toxins or impurities in it. There is a reason why some brands are more expensive then others - one of the reasons is that it is a purer and safer product or/and that it has a higher concentration of magnesium in it. Just like not all magnesium chloride is the same strenght and purity so would that be the same for magnesium sulfate -unless it is man-made like pharmeceutical grade magnesium chloride is man-made, so to speak. It is 'buyer be ware ' when buying many products these days. blessings Shan > > > > > > > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 According to the book that I am reading on Transdermal Magnesium Therapy, Epsom Salts does not stay in the system long enough to cause an increase in Magnesium Levels. > > > > > > > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Hi Shan, I found the lead test kit online. I am also checking into a mercury test kit. I prefer to do my own tests of the product as Dr. Sircus probably has a financial interest in Ancient Minerals. Whenever profit is involved, information can be suspect. > > > > > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Hi Also another thing to consider is your body's ability to handle sulfur, sulfate, sulfites. My daughter was recently told to stop her Epsom salt baths because that is Magnesium Sulfate and she needs to reduce sulfates.So I will look into the mag chloride transdermal routes.We are currently working on clearing ammonia and sulfates ) Thanks for this thread as it was timely for us:O) Hugs, According to the book that I am reading on Transdermal Magnesium Therapy, Epsom Salts does not stay in the system long enough to cause an increase in Magnesium Levels. > > > > >> > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 It is a good thing to do your own tests anyways as I think you will feel better about any product you use. As for myself, about the only doctor I would believe and trust is Mark Sircus. Dr Mark Sircus is a memnber of my health group and so is his assistant . I have known them both since 2005. He does not have any financial interest in any transdermal magnesium product, and I don't think that does too -- though I haven't checked into it with her. But I don't think that Dr Sircus would be very pleased if she did though. Also Mark Sircus will not accept any patients for chelating in his clinic anymore unless they get their magnesium levels up first - I think that his patients would be upset if he pushed them to take transdermal magnesium and then they found out that he had a financial interest in the trans mag company. In my opinion, Dr Mark Sircus is not just a doctor, he is a healer - there are not many healers around these days that I have seen which is too bad. blessings Shan > > > > > > > > > > I am reading the book on transdermal Magnesium Chloride and he talks about bathing in the stuff. When it comes in little 8 oz spray bottles that could get expensive. So here is my question, is there any reason I can't by the pure pharmaceutical grade crystals that are made for aquariums? I noticed that they had 30 pounds of the stuff on ebay for $60.00. If this is anything like the horse MMS, it could be a cheap way to get your magnesium transdermally. I had been taking Epsom Salts baths but come to find out that the Magnesium Sulphate does not stay in the system long enough to really raise Magnesium levels. I may go ahead and buy some and give it a trial run. They claim it is pesticide free and is pharmaceutical grade. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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