Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Thanks, Dan, for your succinct one-liner to fa about membership in Hitler Youth during the Nazizeit not having been voluntary. In the summer of 1954 I sailed to Europe and back on a ship that flew under the Panamanian flag. A friend of mine and I travelled together on our way over but our itineraries diverged and I came back by myself, which inspired me to get to know some of the staff people (or whatever should be the right nautical word). Rumor had it that ships under the Panamanian flag were the only naval employment Germans could get at that time and I must confess the pursar gave me the heebee-jeebies. But I befriended a gal ( " Hannelore " ) a little older than I, as well as her cabin-mate ( " Frau B " ) quite a lot older than both of us. This was my first hands-on (so to speak) learning about exactly what you mention. Hannelore was a bright, inquisitive, and conscientious soul [if I may use that word in these theologically prickly days] and she told me what it had been like for her to join Hitler Youth as an adolescent, believing in things that sound kind of like some parts of the " green " movement and enthusiasms in this country right now [except for HY having been conscripted there -- big difference!]. Things like helping the farmers -- and all sorts of stuff that I suppose goes with being an adolescent in an afflicted country during bad times. I found it hard to imagine anyone would not have known about the Holocaust, but she wasn't putting me on -- she just plain did not. Until later her travels took her to England. During our time of shipboard acquaintance she was in the kind of mind-boggling state of trying to reprogram her entire mind and sense of reality (aka " beliefs " ) from how she'd been brainwashed during the war. Well, that's just one of my pieces of " memories dreams reflections " but as it happened, I knew many anti-Nazi Germans who stayed in Germany during WWII as well as many who emigrated to the U.S. Those shipboard evevenings chatting with Hannelore and Frau B in their cabin gave me a clue/insight into life in Germany during the war which makes me hopeful that Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI need not fit too many of the slots that so many people seem inclined to assign to him. Conceivably he's a person who can learn from experience?! Has, and will continue to? Let's hope so. To All: I hope you don't mind my modes of posting -- I have An Inferior Sensation Function IN SPADES and the reply mode format most of you use CONFUSES me!! All those >s etc. in reply-form posts. :-) Wednesday, Apr. 20 Greetings to All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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