Re: OT: Severe muscle spasm problem

April 17, 2010

Oh! What have I done? I've unleashed the word DOOFUS on everyone. Though I must say, the word makes me smile and my best friend and I tease each other about doofusness all the time. =)Just remember that you only get so many 'there-theres' per month, and then we'll just say, 'I told you so', instead.Be well,Léna Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-) Take care, DOOFUS!

April 17, 2010

Hey Connie,

Good to see you on here again!

Just in reference to calcium, recently Dr. K's assistant doc told me most their lyme patients dont need calcium nearly as much as magnesium. Her testing on me showed needing lots of mag and I tested good for a mineral blend that had some calcium, but not for the individual calcium. Maybe its just the balance of all the minerals. And obviously that testing was for me as an individual Take care!

Debbie

Re: Re: OT: Severe muscle spasm problem

Hi Connie,

From what I've gathered (albeit with a brain like Swiss cheese), calcium can block absorption of mag, so that Lymies don't want to overdo calcium. Also read that the chocolate in chocolate milk pretty much cancels out the calcium in same milk.

I used to take natural dolomite which was nature's perfect ratio of calcium, magnesium and zinc, until it was revealed that there were impurities in it that could be bad. Now I take calc. mag, zinc combo tabs at night, (bear in mind that I'm post menopausal so i want to take care of my bones if i can) and during the day, take some extra mags, and a potassium once; more when muscles are hurting or if my legs or feet have cramped the previous night, or if it's going to be a hot (sweaty) day.

I'm not sure calcium tabs are essential for everyone. A lot depends on what their age, nutrition and other factors. Somewhere, I've got a great book that goes into the interactions and pairings of vitamins and minerals. Now, if I could just remember where it is! =)

Be well,

LÃ©na

So if we take mag do we need to take calcium also or does it matter? I haven't even thought about it till just now that I don't take any calcium. I really don't want to have to swallow another pill. LOL

Connie

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Guyot LÃ©na <drumrollstny (DOT) rr.com> wrote:

, It's no mystery: the small dosage for potassium. Look at the bottle of any vitamin supplement for 'normies' and you'll see how ridiculously low the minimum daily requirement is; same for C, mag., B6, etc.

I usually just ramp up very slowly, and try to learn about any adjunct requirements that might be needed (like extra B6 and other Bs are necessary when taking L-tyrptophan)

I'm thinking there may be some important ratio between calc. mag, zinc and pot. that could mean large doses of one might cause an imbalance.

Just my speculation; I'm no doc or nutritionist: just a lymie-lab-rat. =)

Be well,

LÃ©na

This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we get those good days (or hours) we go for it.

Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other when we are.

I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed). There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why the dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.

Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had DOOFUS, too. ;-)

Hang in there,

--

Connie

April 18, 2010

Hi Connie,

Well I am pleased to hear I have Kin on our group, another DOOFUS! Good to hear

your recoveries are quicker also,, these means our muscles and joint are getting

better... For me I also find I improve from less time with fatigue also, this

also used to be 3 - 5 days, now 1 - 2... For me, being able to do more physical

things and recovering more quickly is how I gauge my improvements...

The very best thing for bees and wasps is WASP and HORNET killer.... This is a

20 ft stream spray can that allows you plenty of distance between them and

you... I typically stand 5 - 10 ft away... There are a number of brands, any

will do... I have about 400 ft of Ligustrum hedges and hornets love to make

nests in them... Normally I don't care, but when it comes time to trim these 6

foot hedges, I always have a can of this handy as I always encounter several

nests each time I trim... They've gotten me too many times in the past.

http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_w_h_k.asp

IMPORTANT: This very same product may save your life some day.... A lot of

folks keep pepper spray around the house in case of an intruder... This is a

small hand held unit that typically shoots up to 10 ft and will take someone

done very quickly when sprayed in the face... You can also use Wasp and Hornet

spray, much bigger container and will shoot up to 20 ft and will also take

someone down very quickly... It is more effective, shoots much farther, 20 ft,

and cost less, about $3.50....

There are also wasp traps you can buy or make yourself, they look like this and

you hang them around your property...

http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_w_h_k.asp

Take care,

Jim

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April 18, 2010

Hi Connie,

When I was at my worst with Lyme and could not do anything physical, I used to

think of all the

to-do's that were not getting done and this really played on my mind... I used

to pride myself I

doing things as they needed doing, then one day I could not any longer...

So when I would have a day with a little energy, I would go nuts trying to catch

up on some smaller

projects, pushed too hard and crashed...

I hope those days are gone forever.. :-((

I still am working off those to-do's, that list go a lot of things added over a

few years and only a few

small things done...

Take care,

Jim

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> > *This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we

> > get those good days (or hours) we go for it.

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> > Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other when we

> > are.

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> > I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed).

> > There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why the

> > dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.

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> > Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had

> > DOOFUS, too. ;-)

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> > Hang in there,

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> > *

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> Connie

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April 18, 2010

Hi again Connie,

When we take extra magnesium, best to also take extra mag.. We typically get a

lot more cal in our diets, but we need a cal-mag ratio of 2:1 or 3:1 which

includes food and supps..

I buy my calcium in powder form and either mix it in water or juice... Now that

has me taking EmergenC, I add it right to this...

Also best to also up the potassium some also..

Jim

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> > *This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we

> > get those good days (or hours) we go for it.

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> > Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other when we

> > are.

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> > I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed).

> > There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why the

> > dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.

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> > Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had

> > DOOFUS, too. ;-)

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> > Hang in there,

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> Connie

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April 18, 2010

Hi Jim,Those 20ft sprays are also great for killing tent-caterpillar nests before the larvae start out.Be well,Léna Hi Connie, Well I am pleased to hear I have Kin on our group, another DOOFUS! Good to hear your recoveries are quicker also,, these means our muscles and joint are getting better... For me I also find I improve from less time with fatigue also, this also used to be 3 - 5 days, now 1 - 2... For me, being able to do more physical things and recovering more quickly is how I gauge my improvements... The very best thing for bees and wasps is WASP and HORNET killer.... This is a 20 ft stream spray can that allows you plenty of distance between them and you... I typically stand 5 - 10 ft away... There are a number of brands, any will do... I have about 400 ft of Ligustrum hedges and hornets love to make nests in them... Normally I don't care, but when it comes time to trim these 6 foot hedges, I always have a can of this handy as I always encounter several nests each time I trim... They've gotten me too many times in the past. http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_w_h_k.asp IMPORTANT: This very same product may save your life some day.... A lot of folks keep pepper spray around the house in case of an intruder... This is a small hand held unit that typically shoots up to 10 ft and will take someone done very quickly when sprayed in the face... You can also use Wasp and Hornet spray, much bigger container and will shoot up to 20 ft and will also take someone down very quickly... It is more effective, shoots much farther, 20 ft, and cost less, about $3.50.... There are also wasp traps you can buy or make yourself, they look like this and you hang them around your property... http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_w_h_k.asp Take care, Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Sunshine <jimjax2@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: OT: Severe muscle spasm problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a severe muscle spasm problem that has been brewing now for 6 > > months... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I often post I have a Lyme knee, this is my right knee and for the > > most part, DMSO keeps it in check. However, over the past > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 months I am getting terrible spasms in that leg's foot, my wife > > says these are nothing, she also gets them. But I get them 2 - 3 times > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weekly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well two nights ago I was sound asleep, awoke to go pee and as I was > > getting up, the other leg's (non-Lyme knee) calf muscle went > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into a terrible spasm, I was standing the other leg and the one in > > spasm was actually rapped around the leg I was standing on as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tight as it could be. The pain was the worse I ever experienced. > > unbearable, it made my worst migraine feel like a tiny headache. And of > > course > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there was nothing I could do to stop the spasm. I was nearly in tears > > it hurt so much as was about to dial 911, when it let up just a bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and about 15 minutes later I was able to walk on it, I then fell back > > asleep and the leg was okay 4 hours later when I awoke. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well today I was moving some wood chips on my property, did 35 > > wheelbarrows in a little over 2 hrs, so I was pushing it and when I was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done, I could barely walk. I came into the house and aimed for the > > recliner. After about an hour, my right leg (Lyme knee leg) was in spasm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just above the right ankle, first time ever there, so tried to get up > > and as the leg support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the recliner started to fold down, my other leg let went into > > terrible spasm again, this time just above the knee in the back, this is > > called the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bicep feroris muscle, and it took me right down to the ground, again > > nearly in tears. Home alone, I wanted to call 911, could not reach the > > phone.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I finally made it on to the couch after about 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minutes, but as I started lowering my back down, it intensified > > again, and again this was the worst pain I have experienced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I got myself up to a half sitting position and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spasm eased a bit.. . After a while I got up and made it to the > > fridge were I has an ancient script of Flexeril, this is a muscle relaxer, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took one and am somewhat better right now, by very slow walking, legs > > are weak and that muscle is still in spasm, although better... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As many of you may know, it is believed end stage Lyme is ALS and > > when I look at the symptoms of ALS I definitely have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having the cramping of muscles now for at least 6 months and also leg > > weakness comes and goes, is better now since I started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mag oil.. Another symptom I have is at times I do have problems > > swallowing, even water.. Earlier today I tried sipping some water > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and had to spit it out, could not swallow... So this is really > > getting to be a big concern for me now, especially after the episode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a few nights ago and again just a little while ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I am taking Vit E, 800 IU and of course tons of magnesium, I > > would say average is 1600 mg elemental daily... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas on what I can take to stop these spasms? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme > > then please put an OT: in the subject line. > > > > ------------------------------- > >

April 18, 2010

Hi Lena,

DOOFUS here, reporting in... :-)

Okay, Friday 4:30PM started my second day of moving chips... Moved 36 loads on

Thursday in 2 1/2 hrs, drank only 32 oz of water, felt terrible when I finished,

all joints, muscles very sore and painful, major fatigue... Bad muscle spasm in

my left leg in the middle of the night, bicep muscle, recovering nicely on

Friday, this is a big positive for me as just one year ago it would take 3 - 5

days to recover..... So on Friday, 4:00PM, started with EmergenC and started

moving chips at 4:30PM... Easily did 28 wheelbarrows, drank a total of 90 oz of

Prilled and distilled water and finished at 8:00PM, not feeling nearly as bad as

the night before... Still had sore joints, muscles and fatigued, but not as bad

as the previous day.. Recovery, what recovery, I was feeling pretty good this

morning (Saturday) and was able to do 2 hrs of light work in the yard this

evening.. I did get a big bought of fatigue around 2:00PM today, fell asleep,

but this cleared to more normal around 5:00PM...

No muscle spasms, not sure if the one I had Thursday night was caused by my

overworking earlier in the day... The other thing that may into the 2 terrible

muscle spasms I had this week on my left leg, last week was my supp holiday

week, I was off all of my supps, except for my insomnia supps, then this week

instead of introducing them back in 3 - 5 daily, I just started them all at once

on Monday... So perhaps this had something to do with these terrible spasms...

So the good news is I am recovering very quickly from physical work, but joint,

muscle and fatigue... This means I continue to show good improvement with Lyme

disease... I always judge the severity of my illness by what I can't do, the

improvements by what I am now able to do...

For me, this is the best so far!

Best,

DOOFUS!

>

> >

> > Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-)

> >

> > Take care,

> > DOOFUS!

> >

>

April 18, 2010

Hi Debbie,

Most folks have a magnesium deficiency, this is even more so for Lymies as Bb

consumes of lot of our mag

as it is their primary source of food.... Just about every Lymie needs more

mag...

Take care,

Jim

>

> Â This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we

get those good days (or hours) we go for it.

>

> Jim, we are all DOOFUS's .Â Thank goodness we can remind each other when we

are.Â

>

> I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed).Â There

are books out on it being the 'cure all'.Â I can't remember why the dosage is

low and limited? Hmmmm.

>

> Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had DOOFUS,

too. ;-)

>

> Hang in there,

>

> --

> Connie

>

April 18, 2010

Jim, that just about drove me nuts not being able to do the things I needed to get done. It took me 15 years to get to the point that it doesn't bother me too much to see things not done. So now if I'm able to cook supper the dishes usually don't get done till the next day. I try to look at what I did get done instead of what I didn't. That's really when I started getting better was when I quit running myself into the ground every day trying to get things done. I never had a good day back then. Finally, I figured out my body was telling me it needed to rest and sometimes for days. I have learned to listen to my body more and it has paid off.

Today I wanted so bad to do some work outside but this body was saying it didn't want to. So I went fishing instead. Much easier on the body. LOL Lots of days that's too much even but since we have a pond with fish in it I didn't have to go far and I got to be out in the sunshine. :0)

Connie

Hi Connie,When I was at my worst with Lyme and could not do anything physical, I used to think of all the

to-do's that were not getting done and this really played on my mind... I used to pride myself Idoing things as they needed doing, then one day I could not any longer...So when I would have a day with a little energy, I would go nuts trying to catch up on some smaller

projects, pushed too hard and crashed...I hope those days are gone forever.. :-((I still am working off those to-do's, that list go a lot of things added over a few years and only a fewsmall things done...

Take care,Jim>> >> >> > *This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we

> > get those good days (or hours) we go for it.> >> > Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other when we> > are.> >> > I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed).

> > There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why the> > dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.> >> > Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had

> > DOOFUS, too. ;-)> >> > Hang in there,> >

> > *> >> >> >>>>> --> Connie>------------------------------------If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line.

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April 18, 2010

Thanks Jim, sounds like I need to add more pills to my pile.

Do you think we could get enough mag just by doing the mag oil? I'm really sick of swallowing so many pills every day and just wondered about this. Do you think it would work if I did the oil twice a day? I don't like doing that either but right now I would rather do that.

Connie

Hi again Connie,When we take extra magnesium, best to also take extra mag.. We typically get a lot more cal in our diets, but we need a cal-mag ratio of 2:1 or 3:1 which includes food and supps..

I buy my calcium in powder form and either mix it in water or juice... Now that has me taking EmergenC, I add it right to this...Also best to also up the potassium some also..

Jim> >> >> >> > *This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we> > get those good days (or hours) we go for it.

> >> > Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other when we> > are.> >> > I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed).> > There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why the

> > dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.> >> > Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had> > DOOFUS, too. ;-)> >> > Hang in there,> >

> > *> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> --> Connie>------------------------------------If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line.

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April 18, 2010

Thanks Lena, that's weird about the chocolate milk.

Connie

Hi Connie,

From what I've gathered (albeit with a brain like Swiss cheese), calcium can block absorption of mag, so that Lymies don't want to overdo calcium. Also read that the chocolate in chocolate milk pretty much cancels out the calcium in same milk.

I used to take natural dolomite which was nature's perfect ratio of calcium, magnesium and zinc, until it was revealed that there were impurities in it that could be bad. Now I take calc. mag, zinc combo tabs at night, (bear in mind that I'm post menopausal so i want to take care of my bones if i can) and during the day, take some extra mags, and a potassium once; more when muscles are hurting or if my legs or feet have cramped the previous night, or if it's going to be a hot (sweaty) day.

I'm not sure calcium tabs are essential for everyone. A lot depends on what their age, nutrition and other factors. Somewhere, I've got a great book that goes into the interactions and pairings of vitamins and minerals. Now, if I could just remember where it is! =)

Be well,

Léna

So if we take mag do we need to take calcium also or does it matter? I haven't even thought about it till just now that I don't take any calcium. I really don't want to have to swallow another pill. LOL

Connie

, It's no mystery: the small dosage for potassium. Look at the bottle of any vitamin supplement for 'normies' and you'll see how ridiculously low the minimum daily requirement is; same for C, mag., B6, etc.

I usually just ramp up very slowly, and try to learn about any adjunct requirements that might be needed (like extra B6 and other Bs are necessary when taking L-tyrptophan)

I'm thinking there may be some important ratio between calc. mag, zinc and pot. that could mean large doses of one might cause an imbalance.

Just my speculation; I'm no doc or nutritionist: just a lymie-lab-rat. =)

Be well,

Léna

This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we get those good days (or hours) we go for it.Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other when we are.

I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed). There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why the dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had DOOFUS, too. ;-)

Hang in there,

-- Connie

April 18, 2010

Hi Debbie, good to see you, too.

Thanks for the info. How are you doing now?

Connie

Hey Connie,Good to see you on here again!Just in reference to calcium, recently Dr. K's assistant doc told me most their lyme patients dont need calcium nearly as much as magnesium. Her testing on me showed needing lots of mag and I tested good for a mineral blend that had some calcium, but not for the individual calcium. Maybe its just the balance of all the minerals. And obviously that testing was for me as an individual Take care!

Debbie

Re: Re: OT: Severe muscle spasm problem

Hi Connie,

From what I've gathered (albeit with a brain like Swiss cheese), calcium can block absorption of mag, so that Lymies don't want to overdo calcium. Also read that the chocolate in chocolate milk pretty much cancels out the calcium in same milk.

I used to take natural dolomite which was nature's perfect ratio of calcium, magnesium and zinc, until it was revealed that there were impurities in it that could be bad. Now I take calc. mag, zinc combo tabs at night, (bear in mind that I'm post menopausal so i want to take care of my bones if i can) and during the day, take some extra mags, and a potassium once; more when muscles are hurting or if my legs or feet have cramped the previous night, or if it's going to be a hot (sweaty) day.

I'm not sure calcium tabs are essential for everyone. A lot depends on what their age, nutrition and other factors. Somewhere, I've got a great book that goes into the interactions and pairings of vitamins and minerals. Now, if I could just remember where it is! =)

Be well,

Léna

So if we take mag do we need to take calcium also or does it matter? I haven't even thought about it till just now that I don't take any calcium. I really don't want to have to swallow another pill. LOL

Connie

, It's no mystery: the small dosage for potassium. Look at the bottle of any vitamin supplement for 'normies' and you'll see how ridiculously low the minimum daily requirement is; same for C, mag., B6, etc.

I usually just ramp up very slowly, and try to learn about any adjunct requirements that might be needed (like extra B6 and other Bs are necessary when taking L-tyrptophan)

I'm thinking there may be some important ratio between calc. mag, zinc and pot. that could mean large doses of one might cause an imbalance.

Just my speculation; I'm no doc or nutritionist: just a lymie-lab-rat. =)

Be well,

Léna

This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when we get those good days (or hours) we go for it.Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other when we are.

I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed). There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why the dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had DOOFUS, too. ;-)

Hang in there,

-- Connie

April 18, 2010

Yes Jim, I'm DOOFUS #2 I guess. :0)

Â

I got some of that spray but you actually have to hit them for it to work. My aim is not that good evidently. I used a whole can and I swear I didn't kill a one. LOL There's so many waspsÂ and just as many bees. I'm afraid they are going to ruin our summer. We'll figure out something. Those bees were chasing my daughter and I and I didn't think bees were aggressive.

Â

Connie

Hi Connie,Well I am pleased to hear I have Kin on our group, another DOOFUS! Â Good to hear your recoveries are quicker also,, these means our muscles and joint are getting better... For me I also find I improve from less time with fatigue also, this also used to be 3 - 5 days, now 1 - 2... For me, being able to do more physical things and recovering more quickly is how I gauge my improvements...

The very best thing for bees and wasps is WASP and HORNET killer.... This is a 20 ft stream spray can that allows you plenty of distance between them and you... I typically stand 5 - 10 ft away... Â There are a number of brands, any will do... Â I have about 400 ft of Ligustrum hedges and hornets love to make nests in them... Normally I don't care, but when it comes time to trim these 6 foot hedges, I always have a can of this handy as I always encounter several nests each time I trim... They've gotten me too many times in the past.

http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_w_h_k.aspIMPORTANT: Â This very same product may save your life some day.... Â A lot of folks keep pepper spray around the house in case of an intruder... This is a small hand held unit that typically shoots up to 10 ft and will take someone done very quickly when sprayed in the face... You can also use Wasp and Hornet spray, much bigger container and will shoot up to 20 ft and will also take someone down very quickly... Â It is more effective, shoots much farther, 20 ft, and cost less, about $3.50....

There are also wasp traps you can buy or make yourself, they look like this and you hang them around your property...http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_w_h_k.asp

Take care,Jim> > >

> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > From: Sunshine <jimjax2@ >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > Subject: OT: Severe muscle spasm problem

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:48 PM

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> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Hi everyone,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > I have a severe muscle spasm problem that has been brewing now for 6

> > months...> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > I often post I have a Lyme knee, this is my right knee and for the> > most part, DMSO keeps it in check. However, over the past

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > 6 months I am getting terrible spasms in that leg's foot, my wife

> > says these are nothing, she also gets them. But I get them 2 - 3 times> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > > weekly.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >

> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Well two nights ago I was sound asleep, awoke to go pee and as I was

> > getting up, the other leg's (non-Lyme knee) calf muscle went> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > > into a terrible spasm, I was standing the other leg and the one in> > spasm was actually rapped around the leg I was standing on as> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > tight as it could be. The pain was the worse I ever experienced.> > unbearable, it made my worst migraine feel like a tiny headache. Â And of

> > course> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > there was nothing I could do to stop the spasm. I was nearly in tears

> > it hurt so much as was about to dial 911, when it let up just a bit> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > > and about 15 minutes later I was able to walk on it, I then fell back> > asleep and the leg was okay 4 hours later when I awoke.> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > Well today I was moving some wood chips on my property, did 35> > wheelbarrows in a little over 2 hrs, so I was pushing it and when I was> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > done, I could barely walk. Â I came into the house and aimed for the> > recliner. Â After about an hour, my right leg (Lyme knee leg) was in spasm

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > just above the right ankle, first time ever there, so tried to get up

> > and as the leg support> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > of the recliner started to fold down, my other leg let went into

> > terrible spasm again, this time just above the knee in the back, this is> > called the> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > bicep feroris muscle, and it took me right down to the ground, again> > nearly in tears. Home alone, I wanted to call 911, could not reach the> > phone....

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > I finally made it on to the couch after about 5

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > minutes, but as I started lowering my back down, it intensified

> > again, and again this was the worst pain I have experienced.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > So I got myself up to a half sitting position and the

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > spasm eased a bit.. . After a while I got up and made it to the

> > fridge were I has an ancient script of Flexeril, this is a muscle relaxer,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > > took one and am somewhat better right now, by very slow walking, legs> > are weak and that muscle is still in spasm, although better...> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > As many of you may know, it is believed end stage Lyme is ALS and> > when I look at the symptoms of ALS I definitely have been> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > having the cramping of muscles now for at least 6 months and also leg> > weakness comes and goes, is better now since I started

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > mag oil.. Another symptom I have is at times I do have problems

> > swallowing, even water.. Earlier today I tried sipping some water> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > > and had to spit it out, could not swallow... Â So this is really> > getting to be a big concern for me now, especially after the episode> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > a few nights ago and again just a little while ago.> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > Okay, I am taking Vit E, 800 IU and of course tons of magnesium, I> > would say average is 1600 mg elemental daily...> > >> > > >> > >

> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > Anyone have any ideas on what I can take to stop these spasms?> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Thanks,

> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Jim> > >> > > >> > >

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> >> > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme> > then please put an OT: in the subject line.> >> > -------------------------------

> >

April 18, 2010

LOL Lena, yes you unleashed DOOFUS. That's a pretty funny word. Around here we use GOOFUS so I guess Jim can be DOOFUS and I can be GOOFUS. LOL

Connie

Oh! What have I done? I've unleashed the word DOOFUS on everyone. Though I must say, the word makes me smile and my best friend and I tease each other about doofusness all the time. =)

Just remember that you only get so many 'there-theres' per month, and then we'll just say, 'I told you so', instead.

Be well,

Léna

Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-)Take care,DOOFUS!

-- Connie

April 18, 2010

DOOFUS,

That's really good to hear. I hope you continue to improve.

GOOFUS

Hi Lena,DOOFUS here, reporting in... :-)Okay, Friday 4:30PM started my second day of moving chips... Moved 36 loads on Thursday in 2 1/2 hrs, drank only 32 oz of water, felt terrible when I finished, all joints, muscles very sore and painful, major fatigue... Bad muscle spasm in my left leg in the middle of the night, bicep muscle, recovering nicely on Friday, this is a big positive for me as just one year ago it would take 3 - 5 days to recover..... So on Friday, 4:00PM, started with EmergenC and started moving chips at 4:30PM... Easily did 28 wheelbarrows, drank a total of 90 oz of Prilled and distilled water and finished at 8:00PM, not feeling nearly as bad as the night before... Still had sore joints, muscles and fatigued, but not as bad as the previous day.. Recovery, what recovery, I was feeling pretty good this morning (Saturday) and was able to do 2 hrs of light work in the yard this evening.. I did get a big bought of fatigue around 2:00PM today, fell asleep, but this cleared to more normal around 5:00PM...

No muscle spasms, not sure if the one I had Thursday night was caused by my overworking earlier in the day... The other thing that may into the 2 terrible muscle spasms I had this week on my left leg, last week was my supp holiday week, I was off all of my supps, except for my insomnia supps, then this week instead of introducing them back in 3 - 5 daily, I just started them all at once on Monday... So perhaps this had something to do with these terrible spasms...

So the good news is I am recovering very quickly from physical work, but joint, muscle and fatigue... This means I continue to show good improvement with Lyme disease... I always judge the severity of my illness by what I can't do, the improvements by what I am now able to do...

For me, this is the best so far!Best,DOOFUS!

>> >> >> > Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-)

> >> > Take care,> > DOOFUS!> >> >> >>------------------------------------If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line.

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April 18, 2010

Hi Jim,Sounds promising. Keep those electrolytes up and lots of water. You might also want to alkalize extra; moon's waxing. =)Be well,Léna Hi Lena, DOOFUS here, reporting in... :-) Okay, Friday 4:30PM started my second day of moving chips... Moved 36 loads on Thursday in 2 1/2 hrs, drank only 32 oz of water, felt terrible when I finished, all joints, muscles very sore and painful, major fatigue... Bad muscle spasm in my left leg in the middle of the night, bicep muscle, recovering nicely on Friday, this is a big positive for me as just one year ago it would take 3 - 5 days to recover..... So on Friday, 4:00PM, started with EmergenC and started moving chips at 4:30PM... Easily did 28 wheelbarrows, drank a total of 90 oz of Prilled and distilled water and finished at 8:00PM, not feeling nearly as bad as the night before... Still had sore joints, muscles and fatigued, but not as bad as the previous day.. Recovery, what recovery, I was feeling pretty good this morning (Saturday) and was able to do 2 hrs of light work in the yard this evening.. I did get a big bought of fatigue around 2:00PM today, fell asleep, but this cleared to more normal around 5:00PM... No muscle spasms, not sure if the one I had Thursday night was caused by my overworking earlier in the day... The other thing that may into the 2 terrible muscle spasms I had this week on my left leg, last week was my supp holiday week, I was off all of my supps, except for my insomnia supps, then this week instead of introducing them back in 3 - 5 daily, I just started them all at once on Monday... So perhaps this had something to do with these terrible spasms... So the good news is I am recovering very quickly from physical work, but joint, muscle and fatigue... This means I continue to show good improvement with Lyme disease... I always judge the severity of my illness by what I can't do, the improvements by what I am now able to do... For me, this is the best so far! Best, DOOFUS! > > > > > > > Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-) > > > > Take care, > > DOOFUS! > > > > > > >

April 18, 2010

LOVE IT! °, L LOL Lena, yes you unleashed DOOFUS. That's a pretty funny word. Around here we use GOOFUS so I guess Jim can be DOOFUS and I can be GOOFUS. LOL Connie On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Guyot LŽna <drumrollstny (DOT) rr.com> wrote: Oh! What have I done? I've unleashed the word DOOFUS on everyone. Though I must say, the word makes me smile and my best friend and I tease each other about doofusness all the time. =) Just remember that you only get so many 'there-theres' per month, and then we'll just say, 'I told you so', instead. Be well, LŽna Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-)Take care,DOOFUS! -- Connie

April 18, 2010

Hi Lena,

I actually use Wasp and Hornet spray for anything I can't reach, it kills

everything it hits... And since I am highly allergic to wasps, I carry a can all

the time with me...

And I use the stuff so often, one would think I don't pay anything for it....

:-)

Well actually, I didn't pay much for it... A few years back while shopping at

one of those depot stores, I was going to buy a few cans of Wash & Hornet spray,

they had a name brand marked down from $2.98 to 50 cents per can, so I picked

up a dozen cans... Got to the register, it rang up as 1 cent per can, I ended up

buying 36 cans for 36 cents.... Oh yeah!! There was a time they would mark

things down to 1 cent to blow them out, but not anymore... :-((

Take care,

Jim

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> > > > > > > Hi everyone,

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> > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a severe muscle spasm problem that has been

> > brewing now for 6

> > > > months...

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I often post I have a Lyme knee, this is my right knee

> > and for the

> > > > most part, DMSO keeps it in check. However, over the past

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > 6 months I am getting terrible spasms in that leg's foot,

> > my wife

> > > > says these are nothing, she also gets them. But I get them 2 -

> > 3 times

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > weekly.

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Well two nights ago I was sound asleep, awoke to go pee

> > and as I was

> > > > getting up, the other leg's (non-Lyme knee) calf muscle went

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > into a terrible spasm, I was standing the other leg and

> > the one in

> > > > spasm was actually rapped around the leg I was standing on as

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > tight as it could be. The pain was the worse I ever

> > experienced.

> > > > unbearable, it made my worst migraine feel like a tiny

> > headache. And of

> > > > course

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > there was nothing I could do to stop the spasm. I was

> > nearly in tears

> > > > it hurt so much as was about to dial 911, when it let up just a

> > bit

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > and about 15 minutes later I was able to walk on it, I

> > then fell back

> > > > asleep and the leg was okay 4 hours later when I awoke.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Well today I was moving some wood chips on my property,

> > did 35

> > > > wheelbarrows in a little over 2 hrs, so I was pushing it and

> > when I was

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > done, I could barely walk. I came into the house and

> > aimed for the

> > > > recliner. After about an hour, my right leg (Lyme knee leg) was

> > in spasm

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > just above the right ankle, first time ever there, so

> > tried to get up

> > > > and as the leg support

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > of the recliner started to fold down, my other leg let

> > went into

> > > > terrible spasm again, this time just above the knee in the

> > back, this is

> > > > called the

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > bicep feroris muscle, and it took me right down to the

> > ground, again

> > > > nearly in tears. Home alone, I wanted to call 911, could not

> > reach the

> > > > phone....

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I finally made it on to the couch after about 5

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > minutes, but as I started lowering my back down, it

> > intensified

> > > > again, and again this was the worst pain I have experienced.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > So I got myself up to a half sitting position and the

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > spasm eased a bit.. . After a while I got up and made it

> > to the

> > > > fridge were I has an ancient script of Flexeril, this is a

> > muscle relaxer,

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > took one and am somewhat better right now, by very slow

> > walking, legs

> > > > are weak and that muscle is still in spasm, although better...

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > As many of you may know, it is believed end stage Lyme is

> > ALS and

> > > > when I look at the symptoms of ALS I definitely have been

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > having the cramping of muscles now for at least 6 months

> > and also leg

> > > > weakness comes and goes, is better now since I started

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > mag oil.. Another symptom I have is at times I do have

> > problems

> > > > swallowing, even water.. Earlier today I tried sipping some water

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > and had to spit it out, could not swallow... So this is

> > really

> > > > getting to be a big concern for me now, especially after the

> > episode

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > a few nights ago and again just a little while ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Okay, I am taking Vit E, 800 IU and of course tons of

> > magnesium, I

> > > > would say average is 1600 mg elemental daily...

> > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas on what I can take to stop these

> > spasms?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Jim

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the

> > treatment of Lyme

> > > > then please put an OT: in the subject line.

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------------

> > > >

April 18, 2010

Hi Connie,

Well it took me less then 15 years, I had an undxd illness for 15 years, but

kept up with things pretty much for the first 12 years, then the next 3 years my

health started sliding and so did my to-do's... Then in Dec, 2005 my undxd

disease turned out to be chronic neuro Lyme, this was when I got very ill with

fatigue, brain fog, joint and muscle pain and shortly after this I no longer

cared I could not get things done, I simply could not do them and learned there

are far more important things to worry about, like the lack of good health..

So don't feel too badly about this period of your life, as you improve you will

have your chance to get on top of things, in the mean time get done the things

you at least enjoy... That's good, looking at what you did tells you how your

are improving, the things you didn't do really don't matter... How you feel and

your outlook about life are far more important... Yeah, running yourself into

the ground probably actually made you sicker, it does me... So pacing ourselves

and doing some things we enjoy is the best way to do things and as we continue

to improve, we'll get even more done... I have some projects I hate to even

thing about doing, I will have to get much better from where I am at to tackle

them... Right now, I could care less these aren't getting done...

Yes, listening to our body's is very important... I enjoy working out in my

gardens, but I also realize the only way I can do this is by taking a lot of

breaks and drinking a lot of Prilled and distilled water... And some of these

breaks last almost an hour, but that is okay by me... So do listen to your body

and do things when you really feel you have the energy and want to do them...

Today I am having a tough fatigue day, nothing gets done, who cares... :-) See,

I got to chat with you instead... :-)

Good for you, fishing + sunshine sounds like a work-free day of complete

relaxation to me.. :-) And as you know, sunshine is one of my top supps, all we

have to do is go outside to get it.... :-) I think even on our worst days, if

we can do things we really enjoy, this helps us to feel somewhat better on these

days and doing them outside is even better... Fishing in ones own pond sure does

fit this criteria... :-) I have a lagoon at the back of my property, loaded

with big fish, but unfortunately contaminated with everyone's yard fertilizer

and chemicals, so not a good place to drop a line.. :-((( Cherish what you

have!

Be well!

Jim

> > >

> > > >

> > > > *This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when

> > we

> > > > get those good days (or hours) we go for it.

> > > >

> > > > Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other

> > when we

> > > > are.

> > > >

> > > > I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed).

> > > > There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why

> > the

> > > > dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.

> > > >

> > > > Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had

> > > > DOOFUS, too. ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Hang in there,

> > > >

> > > > *

> > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Connie

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme

> > then please put an OT: in the subject line.

> >

> > -------------------------------

> >

April 19, 2010

Hi again Connie,

Yes, you can get enough of your need for magnesium by using mag oil... And since

it is highly

absorbed by the body, I also believe it will be the lowest cost way of getting

your daily mag... But

this takes time building up with the mag oil to very high levels, so in the mean

time also good

to use mag citrate or glycinate also...

When your skin gets accustomed to the mag oil and you can do 2 - 3 sessions of

mag oil daily at

full strength (uncut), this will be a good high amount of mag... Lymies should

use a minimum 3 - 4 mgs

per 1 lb of body weight daily, for most, more is better.. I am currently using a

total of 1600 mg,

citrate + mag oil daily, this is the elemental mag, meaning what the body can

absorb... Each tsp of

mag oil at 100% (uncut) is approx 560 mg elemental... If you are using 50/50,

then it would be 1/2

that or 280 mg.

The mag citrate I use is in powder form... I mix it in with any kind of juice

and slug it down.. Easy to

take and costs much less than capsules...

Enjoy your mag, it is making you healthy!!

Jim :-))

> > > >

> > > > *This is soooo hilarious!!! See, we aren't lazy - we're sick! and when

> > we

> > > > get those good days (or hours) we go for it.

> > > >

> > > > Jim, we are all DOOFUS's . Thank goodness we can remind each other

> > when we

> > > > are.

> > > >

> > > > I remember doing some research on potassium (before being diagnosed).

> > > > There are books out on it being the 'cure all'. I can't remember why

> > the

> > > > dosage is low and limited? Hmmmm.

> > > >

> > > > Remember ALS is probably just Lyme - but, I'm pretty sure you just had

> > > > DOOFUS, too. ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Hang in there,

> > > >

> > > > *

> > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Connie

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme

> > then please put an OT: in the subject line.

> >

> > -------------------------------

> >

April 19, 2010

Hi there DOOFUS #2... aka Connie.. :-)

If you are trying to shoot Wasps down while they are in flight, good luck! These

guys

have the edge on you when they are flying...

Best to find the nest, where 1 to 2 doz are busy making babies, then spray

directly

on the nest, killing most of the adults and all of the babes... You will be

amazed

at how few you will see flying after this... You can find nests under the eves

of your

house and in bushes and low lying trees... I take a leaf rake and whack the

bushes, if some fly out, there's

a nest inside.. Find the nest, let the wasps settle down for about 10 minutes,

then go

back and spray the nest...

Bees are not typically aggressive unless you are near the nest... I often bump

into

them while they have landed on flowers, they never come after me... If you have

killer bees, call a beekeeper, don't try doing this yourself...

Take care,

Jim

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Sunshine <jimjax2@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: OT: Severe muscle spasm problem

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:48 PM

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a severe muscle spasm problem that has been brewing now

> > for 6

> > > > months...

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I often post I have a Lyme knee, this is my right knee and for

> > the

> > > > most part, DMSO keeps it in check. However, over the past

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > 6 months I am getting terrible spasms in that leg's foot, my wife

> > > > says these are nothing, she also gets them. But I get them 2 - 3 times

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > weekly.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Well two nights ago I was sound asleep, awoke to go pee and as I

> > was

> > > > getting up, the other leg's (non-Lyme knee) calf muscle went

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > into a terrible spasm, I was standing the other leg and the one

> > in

> > > > spasm was actually rapped around the leg I was standing on as

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > tight as it could be. The pain was the worse I ever experienced.

> > > > unbearable, it made my worst migraine feel like a tiny headache. And

> > of

> > > > course

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > there was nothing I could do to stop the spasm. I was nearly in

> > tears

> > > > it hurt so much as was about to dial 911, when it let up just a bit

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > and about 15 minutes later I was able to walk on it, I then fell

> > back

> > > > asleep and the leg was okay 4 hours later when I awoke.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Well today I was moving some wood chips on my property, did 35

> > > > wheelbarrows in a little over 2 hrs, so I was pushing it and when I was

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > done, I could barely walk. I came into the house and aimed for

> > the

> > > > recliner. After about an hour, my right leg (Lyme knee leg) was in

> > spasm

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > just above the right ankle, first time ever there, so tried to

> > get up

> > > > and as the leg support

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > of the recliner started to fold down, my other leg let went into

> > > > terrible spasm again, this time just above the knee in the back, this

> > is

> > > > called the

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > bicep feroris muscle, and it took me right down to the ground,

> > again

> > > > nearly in tears. Home alone, I wanted to call 911, could not reach the

> > > > phone....

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I finally made it on to the couch after about 5

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > minutes, but as I started lowering my back down, it intensified

> > > > again, and again this was the worst pain I have experienced.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > > > So I got myself up to a half sitting position and the

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > spasm eased a bit.. . After a while I got up and made it to the

> > > > fridge were I has an ancient script of Flexeril, this is a muscle

> > relaxer,

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > took one and am somewhat better right now, by very slow walking,

> > legs

> > > > are weak and that muscle is still in spasm, although better...

> > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > As many of you may know, it is believed end stage Lyme is ALS and

> > > > when I look at the symptoms of ALS I definitely have been

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > having the cramping of muscles now for at least 6 months and also

> > leg

> > > > weakness comes and goes, is better now since I started

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > mag oil.. Another symptom I have is at times I do have problems

> > > > swallowing, even water.. Earlier today I tried sipping some water

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > and had to spit it out, could not swallow... So this is really

> > > > getting to be a big concern for me now, especially after the episode

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > a few nights ago and again just a little while ago.

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> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Okay, I am taking Vit E, 800 IU and of course tons of magnesium,

> > I

> > > > would say average is 1600 mg elemental daily...

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> > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas on what I can take to stop these spasms?

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> > > > > > > Thanks,

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> > > > >

> > > > > > > Jim

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> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of

> > Lyme

> > > > then please put an OT: in the subject line.

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------------

> > > >

April 19, 2010

Hi Lena,

Well I did fine until Sunday, I am in major fatigue crash mode, but overall

I am pleased with what seems like progress to me... Not a single physical

thing today, way too fatigued... It finally caught up with me...

Take care,

Jim

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-)

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > DOOFUS!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 19, 2010

Hi Jim,Glad you came through your 'chip storm' with no nasty sequelae! Now take it easy for a little bit.This weekend, the weather here was wretchedly cold, rainy, and windy. April is a cruel month in upstate NY. All the trees are budding, but the daffodils are shaking their heads in disgust at the sleeting rain and yes, even a few snowflakes! It feels much colder than when it was dry-cold winter, and low pressures kept making my right ear thunder within and ache, not to mention any joints and muscles I'd overused the least little bit. All in all, it was a lost weekend. Did general chores, made good meals, but didn't make much headway getting my new studio space ready. As I've said before, 'When I can, I do it now; when I can't, I do it when I can.' I certainly hope tomorrow that I can! It's funny; when we're able, we all work very hard, so why do we feel like slackers when we don't feel able? Must be that the old Puritan work ethic still pervades our culture. What a waste guilt is! I'm sure it only depresses the immune system.Ah well, "the sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow, there'll be sun!" At least that's what the forecast says.Be well,Léna Hi Lena, Well I did fine until Sunday, I am in major fatigue crash mode, but overall I am pleased with what seems like progress to me... Not a single physical thing today, way too fatigued... It finally caught up with me... Take care, Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other day...:-) > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > DOOFUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

April 19, 2010

Hi Lena,

Well that chip pile hasn't gone away, it's just a tad smaller now... :-) And

for now

at least, there is no rush to whittle it down further, I can now move it when I

feel

like it... And you can bet I am taking it easy right now... :-)

Sorry to hear about your weather, I feel guilty with all this nice sunshiney

weather..

Cooler today, maybe 70 and overcast with light rain, to me it is chilly... But

NO

snowflakes.. Towards the end of the week it will be in the mid 80's and I plan

on spending some time out in the sunshine...

Yes, I do agree with you, given I have energy, I want to be outside using it.. I

think

the last thing we want to do is try to conserve this energy, but using it we do

exercise

our body, something we Lymies really need to do... And I think of the old

saying:

Use it or Lose it! Sure does come to mind.. I don't do well in the winter, so I

don't

use my body nearly enough, but when the warmth reaches here, I am ready to go..

And when you get that sun up there, get out and get some! I swear when I work

in the sun I actually feel much better... If I work on a cold overcast day, I

still feel

pretty crappy, so it is the sun that makes the difference..

Do you remember when ill folks used to be sent to sanitariums to recuperate?

Well

one of the things they were known for was having their patients spend at least

an hour (or more) outside in the sun daily. This was before most abx were

developed, and the

sun was used to cure disease! If we think like this today and use the sun as a

healer,

I believe this makes a difference in our health.. This is a good link about

sunshine..

http://www.henriettesherbal.com/eclectic/journals/nemaq1927/03-sanitarium.html

Your spring is coming up there, I am sure you will be outside enjoying the

health

of the sun.. I have no doubt in my mind that the spring and summer are very

healthy

for us and a good time to gain back some health... When mid summer gets here,

it's

a bit too hot to do a lot of things in my yard, so this is my " good " time of the

year just

coming up...

Getting your new studio space is probably very important to you, spend some time

and get this done so you can enjoy this space.. Doing things we enjoy and

getting

outside in the sunshine both work towards healing... I have a feeling this

summer

is going to be good for my health as I plan to spend more time than usual

outside

doing things I enjoy... I've been coasting since those heart scares, now I am

ready

to dig in and make some more progress...

So now whittle away at your new studio space and you will have all summer to

enjoy it... :-)

Be well!

Jim

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other

> > day...:-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > DOOFUS!

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2010

Hi Jim, Thanks for this great link! When we moved to upstate NY 35 years ago, we didn't realize that it got about 60 full sun days a year. I thinks that's changed for the better, but not MUCH better. That's partly why we want to get on the road again, but don't want to go where it gets really hot. I got out and walked for an hour and a half today in the chilly sunshine. Tomorrow is supposed to be a bit warmer, so i may just stretch out on something and bask.Be well,Léna Hi Lena, Well that chip pile hasn't gone away, it's just a tad smaller now... :-) And for now at least, there is no rush to whittle it down further, I can now move it when I feel like it... And you can bet I am taking it easy right now... :-) Sorry to hear about your weather, I feel guilty with all this nice sunshiney weather.. Cooler today, maybe 70 and overcast with light rain, to me it is chilly... But NO snowflakes.. Towards the end of the week it will be in the mid 80's and I plan on spending some time out in the sunshine... Yes, I do agree with you, given I have energy, I want to be outside using it.. I think the last thing we want to do is try to conserve this energy, but using it we do exercise our body, something we Lymies really need to do... And I think of the old saying: Use it or Lose it! Sure does come to mind.. I don't do well in the winter, so I don't use my body nearly enough, but when the warmth reaches here, I am ready to go.. And when you get that sun up there, get out and get some! I swear when I work in the sun I actually feel much better... If I work on a cold overcast day, I still feel pretty crappy, so it is the sun that makes the difference.. Do you remember when ill folks used to be sent to sanitariums to recuperate? Well one of the things they were known for was having their patients spend at least an hour (or more) outside in the sun daily. This was before most abx were developed, and the sun was used to cure disease! If we think like this today and use the sun as a healer, I believe this makes a difference in our health.. This is a good link about sunshine.. http://www.henriettesherbal.com/eclectic/journals/nemaq1927/03-sanitarium.html Your spring is coming up there, I am sure you will be outside enjoying the health of the sun.. I have no doubt in my mind that the spring and summer are very healthy for us and a good time to gain back some health... When mid summer gets here, it's a bit too hot to do a lot of things in my yard, so this is my "good" time of the year just coming up... Getting your new studio space is probably very important to you, spend some time and get this done so you can enjoy this space.. Doing things we enjoy and getting outside in the sunshine both work towards healing... I have a feeling this summer is going to be good for my health as I plan to spend more time than usual outside doing things I enjoy... I've been coasting since those heart scares, now I am ready to dig in and make some more progress... So now whittle away at your new studio space and you will have all summer to enjoy it... :-) Be well! Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well DOOFUS is about to repeat his actions of the other > > day...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > DOOFUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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