Re: Neurontin for aggression

[Guest guest]

I have not used Neurontin, but I have a story of my (then 6, now 7 yr old ) son

who was raging out of control....

He was so deficient in B1, B2 and molybdenum that the sufite levels had gotten

dangerously high- the results was raging behavior.

The main source for molybdenum is grains, and wiht a gf/cf, soy free, corn free

diet, he lost that trace mineral and with the addition of MB-12- which can

imbalance/deplete B1, B2, he got very sick.

An IV of a revised myers cocktail with molybdenum added snapped him out of it in

24 hours.

I wonder if this is similar to your son?

Tami

Neurontin for aggression

Has anyone used Neurontin to manage aggression. I'm considering using

it while my DAN and I try to solve the cause of my 7.5 yo autistic

son's aggression and self injury. Any info on success or adverse

reactions greatly appreciated. I would also like to know the dose

used. Thanks so much.

Beth

Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

[Guest guest]

Tami,

His recent RBC elements test showed low molybdenum, Ca,Chromium, and

iron. Selenium, boron and vanadium were all low normal. His copper

was off the chart high even though his zinc was high normal. Total

bilirubin also very low.

His CBC showed high RBC, hemoglobin, hematocrit and RDW. A pattern

similar to an athlete on steroids. This fits perfectly with his

behavior.

I have increased his Biomins II from 2 caps/day to 3 caps/day and

extra zinc from 30mg/day to 60mg/day. He also gets GABA 1250mg/day

and theanine 600mg spread through out the day. Clonidine 0.15mg is

the only thing that will slow him down enough to let him sleep at

night.

I will check with my DAN about the molybdenum, a very interesting

coincidence. Thanks for replying!!

Beth

>

> I have not used Neurontin, but I have a story of my (then 6, now

7 yr old ) son who was raging out of control....

>

> He was so deficient in B1, B2 and molybdenum that the sufite

levels had gotten dangerously high- the results was raging

behavior.

>

> The main source for molybdenum is grains, and wiht a gf/cf, soy

free, corn free diet, he lost that trace mineral and with the

addition of MB-12- which can imbalance/deplete B1, B2, he got very

sick.

>

> An IV of a revised myers cocktail with molybdenum added snapped

him out of it in 24 hours.

>

> I wonder if this is similar to your son?

>

> Tami

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> Neurontin for aggression

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> Has anyone used Neurontin to manage aggression. I'm considering

using

> it while my DAN and I try to solve the cause of my 7.5 yo

autistic

> son's aggression and self injury. Any info on success or adverse

> reactions greatly appreciated. I would also like to know the

dose

> used. Thanks so much.

>

> Beth

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>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

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[Guest guest]

HI Beth,

my son's gut was so messed up that no amount of oral B vitamins was getting

thru- the IV was a crucial point for us.....

also, about those B vitamins, if you google for " myers cocktail " there's lots of

info there.

My son is 65 lbs, he gets 100 mcg's of molybdenum per day.

I hope your son is better soon!

Tami

Neurontin for aggression

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>

> Has anyone used Neurontin to manage aggression. I'm considering

using

> it while my DAN and I try to solve the cause of my 7.5 yo

autistic

> son's aggression and self injury. Any info on success or adverse

> reactions greatly appreciated. I would also like to know the

dose

> used. Thanks so much.

>

> Beth

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>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tami,

This thread seems to be like my 12 y/o dd,who is grain free due to yeast and

bacteria.

She is doing well on the diet and b-12 shots,supplements,long list,and

nystatin

Her language has gotten much better,but she is getting very loud,angry,and

rude as well as overemotional.

We were using spectrum complete for multi,and I removed it to see if

something in it was causing this .

Could you please list the ingredients in the IV your son received?

thank you,

theresa

Neurontin for aggression

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>

> Has anyone used Neurontin to manage aggression. I'm considering using

> it while my DAN and I try to solve the cause of my 7.5 yo autistic

> son's aggression and self injury. Any info on success or adverse

> reactions greatly appreciated. I would also like to know the dose

> used. Thanks so much.

>

> Beth

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>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

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[Guest guest]

If your daughter is 12, rude and overemotional would be a very neurotypical

thing for her to be. I don't know how severe it is, but it could just be

hormones. Where is she physically development-wise?

Liz

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> Hi Tami,

> This thread seems to be like my 12 y/o dd,who is grain free due to yeast and

> bacteria.

> She is doing well on the diet and b-12 shots,supplements,long list,and

> nystatin

> Her language has gotten much better,but she is getting very loud,angry,and

> rude as well as overemotional.

[Guest guest]

if you google myers cocktail- the first article that comes up has a list of the

ingredients:)

Neurontin for aggression

>

>

> Has anyone used Neurontin to manage aggression. I'm considering using

> it while my DAN and I try to solve the cause of my 7.5 yo autistic

> son's aggression and self injury. Any info on success or adverse

> reactions greatly appreciated. I would also like to know the dose

> used. Thanks so much.

>

> Beth

>

>

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

She is starting to develop a bit,so I am sure that factors in it,

But it is not typical for her to act this way,she had aba from age 2to 5 so

she has always been my best behaved child.She is also becoming very,very

focused on her 8 y/o typical sister,including throwing major tantrums if she

cannot fix her hair just like her sisters,things like that

The upside is she is trying to hold conversations with her obsessions with

her peers.

I remarked on her copying her sister and she said she has always " been''

someone else.

That she used to be Cameron,her cousin who lived with us 4 yrs ago.

I guess she is not ok being herself

theresa

Re: Neurontin for aggression

> If your daughter is 12, rude and overemotional would be a very

> neurotypical

> thing for her to be. I don't know how severe it is, but it could just be

> hormones. Where is she physically development-wise?

>

> Liz

>

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>

>>

>> Hi Tami,

>> This thread seems to be like my 12 y/o dd,who is grain free due to yeast

>> and

>> bacteria.

>> She is doing well on the diet and b-12 shots,supplements,long list,and

>> nystatin

>> Her language has gotten much better,but she is getting very

>> loud,angry,and

>> rude as well as overemotional.

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I forgot to ask if she's just hit 100lbs. That seems to be the threshold for

puberty. I think you're right in that it's only one factor, esp. since you

know your child. but if she had just hit 100lbs, it might be a part of the

puzzle.

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> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:12:15 -0500

> To: <csb-autism-rx >

> Subject: Re: Neurontin for aggression

>

> Hi Liz,

> She is starting to develop a bit,so I am sure that factors in it,

> But it is not typical for her to act this way,she had aba from age 2to 5 so

> she has always been my best behaved child.She is also becoming very,very

> focused on her 8 y/o typical sister,including throwing major tantrums if she

> cannot fix her hair just like her sisters,things like that

> The upside is she is trying to hold conversations with her obsessions with

> her peers.

> I remarked on her copying her sister and she said she has always " been''

> someone else.

> That she used to be Cameron,her cousin who lived with us 4 yrs ago.

> I guess she is not ok being herself

> theresa

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

She is 120 lbs,has lost some weight since going more toward SCD,Do you have

any idea about maybe some progesterone or something.Her older sister who is

nt?was a real beastie when she started developing and continued to be

difficult until she was 20.I did not have a clue back then about things if a

Dr did not tell me to do it.

Thanks,

theresa

Re: Neurontin for aggression

>>

>> Hi Liz,

>> She is starting to develop a bit,so I am sure that factors in it,

>> But it is not typical for her to act this way,she had aba from age 2to 5

>> so

>> she has always been my best behaved child.She is also becoming very,very

>> focused on her 8 y/o typical sister,including throwing major tantrums if

>> she

>> cannot fix her hair just like her sisters,things like that

>> The upside is she is trying to hold conversations with her obsessions

>> with

>> her peers.

>> I remarked on her copying her sister and she said she has always " been''

>> someone else.

>> That she used to be Cameron,her cousin who lived with us 4 yrs ago.

>> I guess she is not ok being herself

>> theresa

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

She is 120 lbs,has lost some weight since going more toward SCD,Do you have

any idea about maybe some progesterone or something.Her older sister who is

nt?was a real beastie when she started developing and continued to be

difficult until she was 20.I did not have a clue back then about things if a

Dr did not tell me to do it.

Thanks,

theresa

Re: Neurontin for aggression

>>

>> Hi Liz,

>> She is starting to develop a bit,so I am sure that factors in it,

>> But it is not typical for her to act this way,she had aba from age 2to 5

>> so

>> she has always been my best behaved child.She is also becoming very,very

>> focused on her 8 y/o typical sister,including throwing major tantrums if

>> she

>> cannot fix her hair just like her sisters,things like that

>> The upside is she is trying to hold conversations with her obsessions

>> with

>> her peers.

>> I remarked on her copying her sister and she said she has always " been''

>> someone else.

>> That she used to be Cameron,her cousin who lived with us 4 yrs ago.

>> I guess she is not ok being herself

>> theresa

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

>