Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi From some of the research that I remember, IV vitamin C - and this would be high dose gms not mgs - becomes a pro-oxidant and no longer acts as an antioxidant. And as a pro-oxidant it is cytotoxic. But maybe someone out there has some practical information too. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 That is right Anne it does act as a pro-oxidant when taken at high dose intravenously (50-100 grams) or when using high dose oral liposomal vitamin C. As cancer cells are generally pretty bad at dealing with oxidative stress (as their mitochondria are usually mutated), the theory is that cancer cells are killed in preference to " regular " cells that can deal with the stress. I am not sure why Chanchal does not recommend it, as it can be very useful for some cancers. Maybe Chanchal just meant to avoid it for breast cancer. Best wishes, Chris From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] On Behalf Of Anne Larvin Sent: 17 March 2011 18:20 To: ukherbal-list Subject: Re: cancer and IV Vit C Hi From some of the research that I remember, IV vitamin C - and this would be high dose gms not mgs - becomes a pro-oxidant and no longer acts as an antioxidant. And as a pro-oxidant it is cytotoxic. But maybe someone out there has some practical information too. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Don't know how many human trials have been done with IV vitamin C but one has certainly been reported in ovarian cancer patients.. 'Researchers at University of Kansas Medical Center presented findings of a preliminary pilot study into the use of intravenous (IV) ascorbate administered with paclitaxel and carboplatin chemotherapy. The study involved 27 newly-diagnosed patients who had ovarian cancer at Stage III or IV. All patients received the conventional chemotherapy treatment, but one group also received IV ascorbic acid within the range 75-100g two times a week for 1 year. The aim of IV ascorbate was to maintain plasma ascorbate levels of 400mg/dL. At this level of dosage, no adverse events were reported for the ascorbate treatment and any adverse events were considered to be due to the conventional chemotherapy treatment. There was no evidence that IV ascorbate interfered with the conventional treatment. Drisko J. Conference abstracts. Alt Ther May/June 2009;15(3):S101. ' There have, as always, been in vitro and animal studies which have shown efficacy in other cancers such as pancreatic and glioblastomas. Anne > > That is right Anne it does act as a pro-oxidant when taken at high dose > intravenously (50-100 grams) or when using high dose oral liposomal vitamin > C. As cancer cells are generally pretty bad at dealing with oxidative stress > (as their mitochondria are usually mutated), the theory is that cancer cells > are killed in preference to " regular " cells that can deal with the stress. > > > > I am not sure why Chanchal does not recommend it, as it can be very useful > for some cancers. Maybe Chanchal just meant to avoid it for breast cancer. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I remember her saying it should be considered as a last alternative tx for end stage to prolong life as it has a dramatic short term result then fast deterioration thereafter. Sent from my iPad On 17 Mar 2011, at 18:40, Dr Etheridge wrote: > That is right Anne it does act as a pro-oxidant when taken at high dose > intravenously (50-100 grams) or when using high dose oral liposomal vitamin > C. As cancer cells are generally pretty bad at dealing with oxidative stress > (as their mitochondria are usually mutated), the theory is that cancer cells > are killed in preference to " regular " cells that can deal with the stress. > > I am not sure why Chanchal does not recommend it, as it can be very useful > for some cancers. Maybe Chanchal just meant to avoid it for breast cancer. > > Best wishes, > > Chris > > From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] > On Behalf Of Anne Larvin > Sent: 17 March 2011 18:20 > To: ukherbal-list > Subject: Re: cancer and IV Vit C > > Hi > From some of the research that I remember, IV vitamin C - and this would be > high dose gms not mgs - becomes a pro-oxidant and no longer acts as an > antioxidant. And as a pro-oxidant it is cytotoxic. > But maybe someone out there has some practical information too. > Anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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