Re: THAT F'ING B*TCH!!!!!!!!!!!

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> In a message dated 11/16/01 7:46:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> cinnamonspice58@y... writes:

>

>

> > But-- innocent of WHAT??!! I don't even think there's a word for

> > what I'm feeling.

> >

> >

>

> I think it's called the ACLU!

> Okay, it's time to get out the big guns, Cinnamon.

> I sure (don't) hope said teacher got approval of the

> Principal to do this, or she could be fired for violations

> against school policy.

>

> First thing is go and trace back and find out how this

> happened, or hire someone to. Your best defense is

> their mistakes. And then you scream bloody murder.

>

> Here, we have the Regional Center Advocates that

> would come in for free and clean house. I know, I've

> used them, and all they had to do was show up.

>

> Stay with us and keep us posted.

> Jim

According to this social worker the teacher has an OBLIGATION to

call if she " suspects abuse " . Which sounds like it translates

to: " This is how we cover ourselves from any action you attempt to

take. "

Cinnamon

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[Guest guest]

> Would you believe Cassie's teacher called the county social

> services? They were just out here. I am SO PISSED!! I know I'm

> going to regret this post once (if?) I cool down, but I didn't know

> where else to vent. DAMN!!!

>

> Cinnamon

Cinnamon,

Sadly, I have been thru this 2 times now. Don't worry. You have

NOTHING to fear at all. The social worker wil talk to you, and find

out what is going on. Make sure you have all of tnhe numbers of

Cassie's dr's on hand, and give them to the worker. She's required to

call and follow up with any numbers you have. Also, if Cassie has a

teacher that she did very well with, or even a teacher's aide or

therapst that has seen her in her school environment when Cassie

doesn't hate the school, give them that person's number and a way to

contact them. Even if the teacher is in another state, they will

follow up. Let me know how it goes, ok hon? BTW, and FWIW, I know how

you feel...truly....mad, sad, scared, depressed, the whole slew of

it. Take care, and feel free to email me if you just need to talk...

banesbaby1@...

[Guest guest]

Thats right, a teacher is a mandated reporter but it was probably the

school social worker who made the call after a discussion with the

teacher( they get stuck with doing this to justify a paycheck instead

of finding something better to do). Anyway, CPS probably will not

release the name of the reporter to " protect them " I hate all of

this bull-sh*t. The school is supposed to be helpful, not hurtful.

Thea

> > In a message dated 11/16/01 7:46:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > cinnamonspice58@y... writes:

> >

> >

> > > But-- innocent of WHAT??!! I don't even think there's a word

for

> > > what I'm feeling.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I think it's called the ACLU!

> > Okay, it's time to get out the big guns, Cinnamon.

> > I sure (don't) hope said teacher got approval of the

> > Principal to do this, or she could be fired for violations

> > against school policy.

> >

> > First thing is go and trace back and find out how this

> > happened, or hire someone to. Your best defense is

> > their mistakes. And then you scream bloody murder.

> >

> > Here, we have the Regional Center Advocates that

> > would come in for free and clean house. I know, I've

> > used them, and all they had to do was show up.

> >

> > Stay with us and keep us posted.

> > Jim

>

>

>

> According to this social worker the teacher has an OBLIGATION to

> call if she " suspects abuse " . Which sounds like it translates

> to: " This is how we cover ourselves from any action you attempt to

> take. "

>

> Cinnamon

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> >

[Guest guest]

Thats right, a teacher is a mandated reporter but it was probably the

school social worker who made the call after a discussion with the

teacher( they get stuck with doing this to justify a paycheck instead

of finding something better to do). Anyway, CPS probably will not

release the name of the reporter to " protect them " I hate all of

this bull-sh*t. The school is supposed to be helpful, not hurtful.

Thea

> > In a message dated 11/16/01 7:46:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > cinnamonspice58@y... writes:

> >

> >

> > > But-- innocent of WHAT??!! I don't even think there's a word

for

> > > what I'm feeling.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I think it's called the ACLU!

> > Okay, it's time to get out the big guns, Cinnamon.

> > I sure (don't) hope said teacher got approval of the

> > Principal to do this, or she could be fired for violations

> > against school policy.

> >

> > First thing is go and trace back and find out how this

> > happened, or hire someone to. Your best defense is

> > their mistakes. And then you scream bloody murder.

> >

> > Here, we have the Regional Center Advocates that

> > would come in for free and clean house. I know, I've

> > used them, and all they had to do was show up.

> >

> > Stay with us and keep us posted.

> > Jim

>

>

>

> According to this social worker the teacher has an OBLIGATION to

> call if she " suspects abuse " . Which sounds like it translates

> to: " This is how we cover ourselves from any action you attempt to

> take. "

>

> Cinnamon

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thats right, a teacher is a mandated reporter but it was probably the

school social worker who made the call after a discussion with the

teacher( they get stuck with doing this to justify a paycheck instead

of finding something better to do). Anyway, CPS probably will not

release the name of the reporter to " protect them " I hate all of

this bull-sh*t. The school is supposed to be helpful, not hurtful.

Thea

> > In a message dated 11/16/01 7:46:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > cinnamonspice58@y... writes:

> >

> >

> > > But-- innocent of WHAT??!! I don't even think there's a word

for

> > > what I'm feeling.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I think it's called the ACLU!

> > Okay, it's time to get out the big guns, Cinnamon.

> > I sure (don't) hope said teacher got approval of the

> > Principal to do this, or she could be fired for violations

> > against school policy.

> >

> > First thing is go and trace back and find out how this

> > happened, or hire someone to. Your best defense is

> > their mistakes. And then you scream bloody murder.

> >

> > Here, we have the Regional Center Advocates that

> > would come in for free and clean house. I know, I've

> > used them, and all they had to do was show up.

> >

> > Stay with us and keep us posted.

> > Jim

>

>

>

> According to this social worker the teacher has an OBLIGATION to

> call if she " suspects abuse " . Which sounds like it translates

> to: " This is how we cover ourselves from any action you attempt to

> take. "

>

> Cinnamon

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Anyway, CPS probably will not

> release the name of the reporter to " protect them "

They will not.

I hate all of

> this bull-sh*t. The school is supposed to be helpful, not hurtful.

>

You said it, Thea.

Salli

[Guest guest]

Anyway, CPS probably will not

> release the name of the reporter to " protect them "

They will not.

I hate all of

> this bull-sh*t. The school is supposed to be helpful, not hurtful.

>

You said it, Thea.

Salli

[Guest guest]

Anyway, CPS probably will not

> release the name of the reporter to " protect them "

They will not.

I hate all of

> this bull-sh*t. The school is supposed to be helpful, not hurtful.

>

You said it, Thea.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> Would you believe Cassie's teacher called the county social

> services? They were just out here. I am SO PISSED!! I know I'm

> going to regret this post once (if?) I cool down, but I didn't know

> where else to vent. DAMN!!!

>

> Cinnamon

I'm just getting to see this....what possible evidence could she have

to call CSS??? What did they do when they got there????

What is HAPPENING!!!

Penny :-|, who I guess, will need to read ahead.......

[Guest guest]

> Would you believe Cassie's teacher called the county social

> services? They were just out here. I am SO PISSED!! I know I'm

> going to regret this post once (if?) I cool down, but I didn't know

> where else to vent. DAMN!!!

>

> Cinnamon

I'm just getting to see this....what possible evidence could she have

to call CSS??? What did they do when they got there????

What is HAPPENING!!!

Penny :-|, who I guess, will need to read ahead.......

[Guest guest]

Were they actually able to talk to your son WITHOUT your permission???

I find this whole thing very out of line.

Do you think you need a lawyer?

Penny....ugh

[Guest guest]

> Were they actually able to talk to your son WITHOUT your

permission???

>

> I find this whole thing very out of line.

>

> Do you think you need a lawyer?

>

> Penny....ugh

I need something. But it's gonna have to be free or very cheap

right now. And that's probably going to be a bit of an obstacle. And

yes she just showed up at my son's school. He was NOT HAPPY.

Neither was I. But they claim they are required *by law* to

investigate every *claim* and THEY will let YOU know when it's over.

When you know you haven't done anything wrong it's maddening. When

you know the stories about how they have sometimes twisted things to

suit their own purpose, it's scary.

Cinnamon

[Guest guest]

Penny,

unfortunately CPS has alot more rights than they really should.

They can talk to your child without permission at any time if they

feel there is a need! I really hate CPS sometimes!

Jacquie H

> Were they actually able to talk to your son WITHOUT your

permission???

>

> I find this whole thing very out of line.

>

> Do you think you need a lawyer?

>

> Penny....ugh

[Guest guest]

> > I think it's called the ACLU!

> > Okay, it's time to get out the big guns, Cinnamon.

> > I sure (don't) hope said teacher got approval of the

> > Principal to do this, or she could be fired for violations

> > against school policy.

> >

> > First thing is go and trace back and find out how this

> > happened, or hire someone to. Your best defense is

> > their mistakes. And then you scream bloody murder.

> >

> > Here, we have the Regional Center Advocates that

> > would come in for free and clean house. I know, I've

> > used them, and all they had to do was show up.

> >

> > Stay with us and keep us posted.

> > Jim

>

> Jim's right, Cinnamon -

>

> I think someone on this list mentioned the Teacher's professional

> code of conduct...??? I'd have her tail.

>

> dang, teacher's arent even allowed to publicize students name and

> numbers to other parents (like for parties and such), so what she

> did....she should be handed her walking papers.

>

> Penny

It comes down to that little *out clause* they have in being

*obligated by law* While I appreciate the original INTENT of that--

often it is simply used to bash truly innocent parents over the

head. To what end, I'm not sure. Unless it's just some kind of sick

power trip. But that is their cop....OOPS I mean *way* out.

Cinnamon

P.S. I haven't been able to find anything like the Regional Center

Advocates. I don't know if the area is just too small or what.

[Guest guest]

http://www.doa.state.nc.us/doa/gacpd/howcan.htm

Try that site. It has some advocacy stuff there.

jacquie H

> > > I think it's called the ACLU!

> > > Okay, it's time to get out the big guns, Cinnamon.

> > > I sure (don't) hope said teacher got approval of the

> > > Principal to do this, or she could be fired for violations

> > > against school policy.

> > >

> > > First thing is go and trace back and find out how this

> > > happened, or hire someone to. Your best defense is

> > > their mistakes. And then you scream bloody murder.

> > >

> > > Here, we have the Regional Center Advocates that

> > > would come in for free and clean house. I know, I've

> > > used them, and all they had to do was show up.

> > >

> > > Stay with us and keep us posted.

> > > Jim

> >

> > Jim's right, Cinnamon -

> >

> > I think someone on this list mentioned the Teacher's professional

> > code of conduct...??? I'd have her tail.

> >

> > dang, teacher's arent even allowed to publicize students name and

> > numbers to other parents (like for parties and such), so what she

> > did....she should be handed her walking papers.

> >

> > Penny

>

>

>

>

>

> It comes down to that little *out clause* they have in being

> *obligated by law* While I appreciate the original INTENT of that--

> often it is simply used to bash truly innocent parents over the

> head. To what end, I'm not sure. Unless it's just some kind of

sick

> power trip. But that is their cop....OOPS I mean *way* out.

>

> Cinnamon

>

>

> P.S. I haven't been able to find anything like the Regional

Center

> Advocates. I don't know if the area is just too small or what.

[Guest guest]

http://wch.dhhs.state.nc.us/dec_s.htm

This one too!

Jacquie H

> > > > I think it's called the ACLU!

> > > > Okay, it's time to get out the big guns, Cinnamon.

> > > > I sure (don't) hope said teacher got approval of the

> > > > Principal to do this, or she could be fired for violations

> > > > against school policy.

> > > >

> > > > First thing is go and trace back and find out how this

> > > > happened, or hire someone to. Your best defense is

> > > > their mistakes. And then you scream bloody murder.

> > > >

> > > > Here, we have the Regional Center Advocates that

> > > > would come in for free and clean house. I know, I've

> > > > used them, and all they had to do was show up.

> > > >

> > > > Stay with us and keep us posted.

> > > > Jim

> > >

> > > Jim's right, Cinnamon -

> > >

> > > I think someone on this list mentioned the Teacher's

professional

> > > code of conduct...??? I'd have her tail.

> > >

> > > dang, teacher's arent even allowed to publicize students name

and

> > > numbers to other parents (like for parties and such), so what

she

> > > did....she should be handed her walking papers.

> > >

> > > Penny

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It comes down to that little *out clause* they have in being

> > *obligated by law* While I appreciate the original INTENT of

that--

>

> > often it is simply used to bash truly innocent parents over the

> > head. To what end, I'm not sure. Unless it's just some kind of

> sick

> > power trip. But that is their cop....OOPS I mean *way* out.

> >

> > Cinnamon

> >

> >

> > P.S. I haven't been able to find anything like the Regional

> Center

> > Advocates. I don't know if the area is just too small or what.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/18/01 9:26:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cinnamonspice58@... writes:

> But they claim they are required *by law* to

> investigate every *claim* and THEY will let YOU know when it's over.

> When you know you haven't done anything wrong it's maddening. When

> you know the stories about how they have sometimes twisted things to

> suit their own purpose, it's scary.

>

>

ime..they are required to investigate every claim against a parent...not

against a teacher or school personnel.

Pam

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