Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 It does take the body a while to adjust to the eating changes. You will need to know what they eat, when and how much to really determine if they are eating correctly. You may want to let them know that their bodies will adjust to the changes in a few weeks. Not only that they will notice a change in there cravings too. My advise is to document what they eat, how much, and when. That is where I would start. Train hard and be strong! Take care, Younce Yahoo Fitness for Life http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/fitnessforlifenc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 It does take the body a while to adjust to the eating changes. You will need to know what they eat, when and how much to really determine if they are eating correctly. You may want to let them know that their bodies will adjust to the changes in a few weeks. Not only that they will notice a change in there cravings too. My advise is to document what they eat, how much, and when. That is where I would start. Train hard and be strong! Take care, Younce Yahoo Fitness for Life http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/fitnessforlifenc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 , It is frustrating since to those of us that have done this program since it is so obvious to us. It doesn't do us any good to force the program on others since they have to come to this realization themselves. All you can do is be there to support them when they are ready. There's a lot of successful ways to lose fat and if someone isn't ready and willing to work hard at being consistent they will fail at all of them. I know it is frustrating but there is nothing you can do but show them how successful the BFL program is for you. They will notice and may ask for your help later. Andy > I have been on BLF for about a month...and while the holidays sidetracked me...I am back on track. > > I started to notice a difference after about 2 weeks...and still even though I was " off " for a few days...before BLF I could instantly notice a reaction in my body...It really hasn't affected me much. > > My mother and my sister have had long battles with being overweight/over eating. Both have tried every diet/exercize known to man...and I let each borrow my books and they got started...however they lasted less than a week and kept making excuses as to why they couldn't exercize...it was too hard to eat 5-6 times a day..or my sister would eat and then call me saying she was " still hungry " ....I'd tell her to drink a lot of water and know she'd be eating again in 2-3 hours. > > I guess that " self-resolve " has to come from the self...no amount of support or guidance can help someone else do it if they're just not ready to. I find it frustrating... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 , It is frustrating since to those of us that have done this program since it is so obvious to us. It doesn't do us any good to force the program on others since they have to come to this realization themselves. All you can do is be there to support them when they are ready. There's a lot of successful ways to lose fat and if someone isn't ready and willing to work hard at being consistent they will fail at all of them. I know it is frustrating but there is nothing you can do but show them how successful the BFL program is for you. They will notice and may ask for your help later. Andy > I have been on BLF for about a month...and while the holidays sidetracked me...I am back on track. > > I started to notice a difference after about 2 weeks...and still even though I was " off " for a few days...before BLF I could instantly notice a reaction in my body...It really hasn't affected me much. > > My mother and my sister have had long battles with being overweight/over eating. Both have tried every diet/exercize known to man...and I let each borrow my books and they got started...however they lasted less than a week and kept making excuses as to why they couldn't exercize...it was too hard to eat 5-6 times a day..or my sister would eat and then call me saying she was " still hungry " ....I'd tell her to drink a lot of water and know she'd be eating again in 2-3 hours. > > I guess that " self-resolve " has to come from the self...no amount of support or guidance can help someone else do it if they're just not ready to. I find it frustrating... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 , It is frustrating since to those of us that have done this program since it is so obvious to us. It doesn't do us any good to force the program on others since they have to come to this realization themselves. All you can do is be there to support them when they are ready. There's a lot of successful ways to lose fat and if someone isn't ready and willing to work hard at being consistent they will fail at all of them. I know it is frustrating but there is nothing you can do but show them how successful the BFL program is for you. They will notice and may ask for your help later. Andy > I have been on BLF for about a month...and while the holidays sidetracked me...I am back on track. > > I started to notice a difference after about 2 weeks...and still even though I was " off " for a few days...before BLF I could instantly notice a reaction in my body...It really hasn't affected me much. > > My mother and my sister have had long battles with being overweight/over eating. Both have tried every diet/exercize known to man...and I let each borrow my books and they got started...however they lasted less than a week and kept making excuses as to why they couldn't exercize...it was too hard to eat 5-6 times a day..or my sister would eat and then call me saying she was " still hungry " ....I'd tell her to drink a lot of water and know she'd be eating again in 2-3 hours. > > I guess that " self-resolve " has to come from the self...no amount of support or guidance can help someone else do it if they're just not ready to. I find it frustrating... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 That is so true. I would love to help others get into better shape and get healthy, but if they are not interested I am wasting my time. Others may come around later, but if they don't I have to press on. I try to help those that are truly interested in making a change to a better and healthy life. It is all about choices. Train hard and be strong! Take care, Younce Yahoo Fitness for Life http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/fitnessforlifenc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 That is so true. I would love to help others get into better shape and get healthy, but if they are not interested I am wasting my time. Others may come around later, but if they don't I have to press on. I try to help those that are truly interested in making a change to a better and healthy life. It is all about choices. Train hard and be strong! Take care, Younce Yahoo Fitness for Life http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/fitnessforlifenc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 That is so true. I would love to help others get into better shape and get healthy, but if they are not interested I am wasting my time. Others may come around later, but if they don't I have to press on. I try to help those that are truly interested in making a change to a better and healthy life. It is all about choices. Train hard and be strong! Take care, Younce Yahoo Fitness for Life http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/fitnessforlifenc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 , You are ABSOLUTELY on the mark about the self resolve. There has to be a strong enough reason in a person's life to help them make the change and cross over into a new lifestyle. In BFL, we (actually Bill ) refers to that as " crossing the abyss " . I had been there many, many times in the past with every quick fix know to the diet world, yet just kept getting larger and larger. ...And I don't mean from muscle, either! The idea for the change and the reason to change must come from within the person. Further, it has to be a strong enough reason to drive oneself for the entire initial 12 weeks, until the fitness and eating behaviors become part of one's own lifestyle. I encourage you to challenge your mother and sister to find their reason. If you all share your primary reason for the change, maybe you can each help eachother stay focused on making progress. Eating often has been one of my keys to success. The more I eat when not hungry, the less I tend to binge. The less binges, the more stable and stoked my metabolism. The more stable and stoked my metabolism, the more calories are burned and the less fat is allowed to accumulate. Stepping up on my soap box... If your mother and sister have accepted the exercise as part of their lifestyle, but, do NOT attend to their nutritional intake, they are only 20% on track. The same holds true if one only eats better nutrition and does not exercise. They, too, are only 20% on track. It is the synergy of exercise and proper nutrition that makes up more than half of the effort needed to get our bodies 100% on track with a better lifestyle. I refer to this missing synthesis as the " Holowko Principle " . My holowko principle is basically the Pareto Principle " applied specifically to the world of health and fitness. I feel that people tend to make a huge (we'll call it 80%) effort in EITHER nutrition or exercise, but only receive only the 20% benefit. I not only see and hear of this on a regular basis, I have experienced this phenomenon for myself! Psychologically, it is like the 80% effort in nutrition or exercise provides the person the right to whine and complain about their struggle with the diet or exercise program. It is like we are looking for an excuse to remain the way they are. Yet, all it takes is a more rounded effort combining both diet AND exercise to achieve and sustain progress. Invite your mom and sister to try BFL again. This time, start at the reason, not the nutrition or exercise. Then, assure then that you will be there for their encouragement, but not for the excuses. Remind them of the Holowko Principle and then have them focus on progress. I assure you, they will achieve long term results. Stepping down off my soap box... Even if your family doesn't want to now do this, there are many of us here, on-line, to help encourage you and keep you motivated. Once you start feeling the many positive results, you will be self fueled in motivation for the long haul. Once your enthusiasm and progress are visibly recognized by your mother and sister, you may be the catalyst they need to encourage the change in their lifestyle and they may then follow your lead. One month down, and an extended lifetime to look forward to. Congrats! -- Remember... Progress, not perfection! -- Holowko, CPA, CCP PO Box 444 Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-0444 -- E-mailto:gholowko@... -- Telephone: Facsimile: -- Featuring Magic Software -- Developer tools for wise business solutions! -- wrote: > I have been on BLF for about a month...and while the holidays > sidetracked me...I am back on track. > > I started to notice a difference after about 2 weeks...and still even > though I was " off " for a few days...before BLF I could instantly > notice a reaction in my body...It really hasn't affected me much. > > My mother and my sister have had long battles with being > overweight/over eating. Both have tried every diet/exercize known to > man...and I let each borrow my books and they got started...however > they lasted less than a week and kept making excuses as to why they > couldn't exercize...it was too hard to eat 5-6 times a day..or my > sister would eat and then call me saying she was " still hungry " ....I'd > tell her to drink a lot of water and know she'd be eating again in 2-3 > hours. > > I guess that " self-resolve " has to come from the self...no amount of > support or guidance can help someone else do it if they're just not > ready to. I find it frustrating... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 , You are ABSOLUTELY on the mark about the self resolve. There has to be a strong enough reason in a person's life to help them make the change and cross over into a new lifestyle. In BFL, we (actually Bill ) refers to that as " crossing the abyss " . I had been there many, many times in the past with every quick fix know to the diet world, yet just kept getting larger and larger. ...And I don't mean from muscle, either! The idea for the change and the reason to change must come from within the person. Further, it has to be a strong enough reason to drive oneself for the entire initial 12 weeks, until the fitness and eating behaviors become part of one's own lifestyle. I encourage you to challenge your mother and sister to find their reason. If you all share your primary reason for the change, maybe you can each help eachother stay focused on making progress. Eating often has been one of my keys to success. The more I eat when not hungry, the less I tend to binge. The less binges, the more stable and stoked my metabolism. The more stable and stoked my metabolism, the more calories are burned and the less fat is allowed to accumulate. Stepping up on my soap box... If your mother and sister have accepted the exercise as part of their lifestyle, but, do NOT attend to their nutritional intake, they are only 20% on track. The same holds true if one only eats better nutrition and does not exercise. They, too, are only 20% on track. It is the synergy of exercise and proper nutrition that makes up more than half of the effort needed to get our bodies 100% on track with a better lifestyle. I refer to this missing synthesis as the " Holowko Principle " . My holowko principle is basically the Pareto Principle " applied specifically to the world of health and fitness. I feel that people tend to make a huge (we'll call it 80%) effort in EITHER nutrition or exercise, but only receive only the 20% benefit. I not only see and hear of this on a regular basis, I have experienced this phenomenon for myself! Psychologically, it is like the 80% effort in nutrition or exercise provides the person the right to whine and complain about their struggle with the diet or exercise program. It is like we are looking for an excuse to remain the way they are. Yet, all it takes is a more rounded effort combining both diet AND exercise to achieve and sustain progress. Invite your mom and sister to try BFL again. This time, start at the reason, not the nutrition or exercise. Then, assure then that you will be there for their encouragement, but not for the excuses. Remind them of the Holowko Principle and then have them focus on progress. I assure you, they will achieve long term results. Stepping down off my soap box... Even if your family doesn't want to now do this, there are many of us here, on-line, to help encourage you and keep you motivated. Once you start feeling the many positive results, you will be self fueled in motivation for the long haul. Once your enthusiasm and progress are visibly recognized by your mother and sister, you may be the catalyst they need to encourage the change in their lifestyle and they may then follow your lead. One month down, and an extended lifetime to look forward to. Congrats! -- Remember... Progress, not perfection! -- Holowko, CPA, CCP PO Box 444 Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-0444 -- E-mailto:gholowko@... -- Telephone: Facsimile: -- Featuring Magic Software -- Developer tools for wise business solutions! -- wrote: > I have been on BLF for about a month...and while the holidays > sidetracked me...I am back on track. > > I started to notice a difference after about 2 weeks...and still even > though I was " off " for a few days...before BLF I could instantly > notice a reaction in my body...It really hasn't affected me much. > > My mother and my sister have had long battles with being > overweight/over eating. Both have tried every diet/exercize known to > man...and I let each borrow my books and they got started...however > they lasted less than a week and kept making excuses as to why they > couldn't exercize...it was too hard to eat 5-6 times a day..or my > sister would eat and then call me saying she was " still hungry " ....I'd > tell her to drink a lot of water and know she'd be eating again in 2-3 > hours. > > I guess that " self-resolve " has to come from the self...no amount of > support or guidance can help someone else do it if they're just not > ready to. I find it frustrating... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Hi All, I haven't posted in a very long time. I haven't been able to bring myself to really read everything, but my dad has started to " snowball " as his neurologist called it. I need to check in more just to keep up to help keep my family informed. Dad has had many issues with eating from not eating to being constantly hungry. He now loves milkshakes and PBJ sandwiches. The problem is he has diabetes (non-insulin dependent). It's supposed to be controlled by diet. My mom is torn between letting him eat so he won't wither away yet keeping him diabetically healthy. His physical health is excellent right now. She makes his milkshakes with non-fat, no sugar ice cream. Should she go ahead and make them out of the highest fat content since I think it beats literally starving to death? Also, any tips to help my poor mother let go of trying to take care of my dad all by herself? All four of us kids are so worried about her and have offered to help find quality caregivers. In fact, one of my sisters who lives in the same town and who is a nurse practioner and dean of a nursing school has even lined up nursing students and other extremely qualified caregivers for Mom to interview. Always at the last minute Mom changes her mond and cancels. We also are aware Mom wants/needs to make the decision to bring caregivers in by herself. We respect her decision but hate to see her " go down " with our dad. She is an incredible 77. He is 82. Thank you all, and best wishes and prayers on all of your journeys. Littlejohn, oldest child of Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 When parents have to give up so much control as they do as they age, it is hard when your Mom can choose to not have help. Some here on the site have asked parents to . " do it for me. " That way she isn't doing it for herself but you. Boy, I wish I had a daughter like your Mom has, who would get me N. students to help. I think we have several articles in the files or links that talk about how often the cg gets worse and some times dies before the person they are taking care of does. At least their health is really affected. Hugs, Donna R Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other than mine. Diet Hi All, I haven't posted in a very long time. I haven't been able to bring myself to really read everything, but my dad has started to " snowball " as his neurologist called it. I need to check in more just to keep up to help keep my family informed. Dad has had many issues with eating from not eating to being constantly hungry. He now loves milkshakes and PBJ sandwiches. The problem is he has diabetes (non-insulin dependent). It's supposed to be controlled by diet. My mom is torn between letting him eat so he won't wither away yet keeping him diabetically healthy. His physical health is excellent right now. She makes his milkshakes with non-fat, no sugar ice cream. Should she go ahead and make them out of the highest fat content since I think it beats literally starving to death? Also, any tips to help my poor mother let go of trying to take care of my dad all by herself? All four of us kids are so worried about her and have offered to help find quality caregivers. In fact, one of my sisters who lives in the same town and who is a nurse practioner and dean of a nursing school has even lined up nursing students and other extremely qualified caregivers for Mom to interview. Always at the last minute Mom changes her mond and cancels. We also are aware Mom wants/needs to make the decision to bring caregivers in by herself. We respect her decision but hate to see her " go down " with our dad. She is an incredible 77. He is 82. Thank you all, and best wishes and prayers on all of your journeys. Littlejohn, oldest child of Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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