Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan, Three years ago my father fainted when we were sitting in the ER waiting for my mother to be admitted. Mom had been deteriorating and I just had not noticed Dad was not drinking enough. I was giving him drinks but not noting how much he actually took in. Just one more learning experience for this caregiver. Dad was also admitted overnight for observation. For a time I was running back and forth between to curtain areas in the ER. They tested Dad for everything (all negative) and also re hydrated him. He was released the next day in much better shape and I, the self-appointed Hydration Harpie, now enforce a daily minimum fluid consumption level. No fainting since then. Hopefully dehydration is the immediate cause of Jim's current problems. Could the attending at the NH write orders that his fluids be more closely monitored and that they follow swallowing protocols? If he has not yet had one they might be able to do a swallowing evaluation while he is in the hospital. Assuming he demonstrates swallowing issues as documented by the test, I would think the NH would be compelled to follow the preventative guidelines for swallowing. I hope he is safely back in the NH soon, KB ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan Jim is in my prayers. I hope they find out what is wrong and correct it quickly. Cyber Hugs from Fl Jacqui ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan - Jim will be in my thoughts & prayers today and the days that follow that he has a speedy recovery - with you behind him, he can't get better care than that. Hugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan , Sending up prayers for Jim and you and may it just be he needed hydrating and nothing more.Hope you get him home and well very soon.Be well Ron Janet Colello wrote: Hi, Jim is in the hospstial. While he was home for the weekend, he seemed very confused, way more than usual, and talking very nonsensical. This has started happening within the last week. I had him tested for a UTI at the nh, but it came back so low on the results that no antibiotics have been issued to him. At 2AM Monday morning, Jim woke up and seemed very weak, his breathing was shallow and he could hardly respond to me, so I had the paramedics come and get him and bring him to emergency. They have run blood tests, UTI test, ,CT scan and all kinds of tests, but so far can't find anything. He became aggressive with the nurses. I sat with him from 2:30AM to 6PM on Monday, I wanted to make sure none of the medications on the bad LBD side were issued to him. I spoke with almost every shift to make sure they know not to give him certain medications. Jim has a medic alert bracelet on, but they don't pay attention to that I don't think. I have never seen anyone really stop to read it. Jim does have arthritis in his knees and I think that is what made him aggitated, because after being in bed for so long they started to hurt. He is allergic to the medications they have tried for his arthritis before, so they gave him nothing. I don't think they realized that his knees were in pain and that caused him to be aggitated. It took me some time to figure it out when he was very fidgity and aggitated. I finally went up and asked for a Tylenol for him and it relieved the pain and he fell sound asleep. I use Tylenol at home and also some of the overcounter arthritis helpers with deep heating action like patches and ActivOn and they really seem to help him. Of course, the hospital had nothing like that to put on his knees, they only think in terms of oral drugs. They have transfered Jim to another hospital about half an hour away from me, they wanted to keep an eye on him, I pray all my requests have transfered with him. I will go visit Jim today. The one thing they did do was hydrate Jim, as usual he was dehydrated and they gave him two bags of hydration. He seemed to perk up after that, so maybe it all comes down to he was dehydrated. I keep the liquids pouring into him at home, but I don't think they have a good watch on that at the nh. He needs to have thickener in his liquids and I just don't think they take the time to put thickener in his liquids, the head nurse does at certain times, but when he is thirsty none of the CNAs take the time inbetween meals to thicken liquids for him and give him liquids. I'll keep you informed when I see him today............Jan --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan, Being dehydrated could certainly be the answer. Confusion from that happens to non-LBDers, so you can imagine it would do at least the same thing or more to an LBDer. The CNAs should be told to have him drink something at least every two hours (on the clock). Hope he's feeling much better this morning. Re: Jim in hospital Jan - Jim will be in my thoughts & prayers today and the days that follow that he has a speedy recovery - with you behind him, he can't get better care than that. Hugs. Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Welcome to LBDcaregivers. Yahoo! Groups Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity  8 New Members  5 New Photos  20 New Links Visit Your Group FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on Yahoo! Groups. Search Ads Get new customers. List your web site in Yahoo! Search. Find Enlightenment Yoga groups and resources on Yahoo! Groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 HI Jan, Sorry to hear about Jim. Hope he bounces back quickly. Courage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan, thank goodness you had Jim at home so you could assess his situation. I hope you will find him back on track today after hydration and no bad meds. Thinking about you. , Oakville Ont. Mother, age 92, died Aug. 12/06 after 13 year decline from PDD > > Hi, > Jim is in the hospstial. While he was home for the weekend, he seemed very confused, way more than usual, and talking very nonsensical. This has started happening within the last week. I had him tested for a UTI at the nh, but it came back so low on the results that no antibiotics have been issued to him. At 2AM Monday morning, Jim woke up and seemed very weak, his breathing was shallow and he could hardly respond to me, so I had the paramedics come and get him and bring him to emergency. They have run blood tests, UTI test, ,CT scan and all kinds of tests, but so far can't find anything. He became aggressive with the nurses. I sat with him from 2:30AM to 6PM on Monday, I wanted to make sure none of the medications on the bad LBD side were issued to him. I spoke with almost every shift to make sure they know not to give him certain medications. Jim has a medic alert bracelet on, but they don't pay attention to that I don't think. I have never seen anyone really stop to > read it. Jim does have arthritis in his knees and I think that is what made him aggitated, because after being in bed for so long they started to hurt. He is allergic to the medications they have tried for his arthritis before, so they gave him nothing. I don't think they realized that his knees were in pain and that caused him to be aggitated. It took me some time to figure it out when he was very fidgity and aggitated. I finally went up and asked for a Tylenol for him and it relieved the pain and he fell sound asleep. I use Tylenol at home and also some of the overcounter arthritis helpers with deep heating action like patches and ActivOn and they really seem to help him. Of course, the hospital had nothing like that to put on his knees, they only think in terms of oral drugs. > They have transfered Jim to another hospital about half an hour away from me, they wanted to keep an eye on him, I pray all my requests have transfered with him. I will go visit Jim today. The one thing they did do was hydrate Jim, as usual he was dehydrated and they gave him two bags of hydration. He seemed to perk up after that, so maybe it all comes down to he was dehydrated. I keep the liquids pouring into him at home, but I don't think they have a good watch on that at the nh. He needs to have thickener in his liquids and I just don't think they take the time to put thickener in his liquids, the head nurse does at certain times, but when he is thirsty none of the CNAs take the time inbetween meals to thicken liquids for him and give him liquids. > I'll keep you informed when I see him today............Jan > > > > --------------------------------- > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi, Jan, I am thinking of you, and keeping you and Jim in my prayers. Let us know how he is doing whenever you have time. Love and hugs, Piper ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi dear Jan, I just opened our site today, and saw that Jim has been in the hospital. I am so very sorry things are so hard. And, aren't they? When we saw you we were doing so chipper, and now, Well, let's just say that we have seen much better days. It breaks my heart to see my precious man loosing his mental abilities. We went to the doctor today, and Don didn't mean to, but the doctor saw how bad it is getting. Don had chest pain again last night, and our primary care doctor told us to get him to his Cardiologist right away. Don didn't call me by using the nice portable doorbell that he use to use. So obviously that service is no longer going to work. I told him we have got to be together, so that we can care for each other. Being across the hall doesn't cut it, not if he can't use the bell anymore. I bought a king bed so that he would sleep with me, but he is afraid he will thrash around and hurt me, and too, when he is ready for bed, it's like right now! If I am a few minutes later getting into bed it upsets him. I can work around that, but Ican't even hear the alarm clock by my bed, so I need to feel his movements. So many things have happened that I can't relate them all. It's Lewy at it's best, and that ain't good. Again, Jan, you are very special to me, and I hope you will remain alright while under all the stress of caring for your beloved Jim. Love a big bunch, Imogene Caretaker for my True Texas Gentleman of almost 37 years. He has LBD along with Parkinsonism. > > Hi, > Jim is in the hospstial. While he was home for the weekend, he seemed very confused, way more than usual, and talking very nonsensical. This has started happening within the last week. I had him tested for a UTI at the nh, but it came back so low on the results that no antibiotics have been issued to him. At 2AM Monday morning, Jim woke up and seemed very weak, his breathing was shallow and he could hardly respond to me, so I had the paramedics come and get him and bring him to emergency. They have run blood tests, UTI test, ,CT scan and all kinds of tests, but so far can't find anything. He became aggressive with the nurses. I sat with him from 2:30AM to 6PM on Monday, I wanted to make sure none of the medications on the bad LBD side were issued to him. I spoke with almost every shift to make sure they know not to give him certain medications. Jim has a medic alert bracelet on, but they don't pay attention to that I don't think. I have never seen anyone really stop to > read it. Jim does have arthritis in his knees and I think that is what made him aggitated, because after being in bed for so long they started to hurt. He is allergic to the medications they have tried for his arthritis before, so they gave him nothing. I don't think they realized that his knees were in pain and that caused him to be aggitated. It took me some time to figure it out when he was very fidgity and aggitated. I finally went up and asked for a Tylenol for him and it relieved the pain and he fell sound asleep. I use Tylenol at home and also some of the overcounter arthritis helpers with deep heating action like patches and ActivOn and they really seem to help him. Of course, the hospital had nothing like that to put on his knees, they only think in terms of oral drugs. > They have transfered Jim to another hospital about half an hour away from me, they wanted to keep an eye on him, I pray all my requests have transfered with him. I will go visit Jim today. The one thing they did do was hydrate Jim, as usual he was dehydrated and they gave him two bags of hydration. He seemed to perk up after that, so maybe it all comes down to he was dehydrated. I keep the liquids pouring into him at home, but I don't think they have a good watch on that at the nh. He needs to have thickener in his liquids and I just don't think they take the time to put thickener in his liquids, the head nurse does at certain times, but when he is thirsty none of the CNAs take the time inbetween meals to thicken liquids for him and give him liquids. > I'll keep you informed when I see him today............Jan > > > > --------------------------------- > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan: Hope you have found him improving on your visit this afternoon. Darrell was terribly dehydrated both times he had to go to ER. One of the times, he appeared to be drinking well when I fed him dinner; he always drank juice, milk, water, and sometimes coffee, but perhaps the disease causes them not to absorb it well. Who knows. Anyway, I hope that does the trick. Let us know. June --- Janet Colello wrote: > Hi, > Jim is in the hospstial. While he was home for the > weekend, he seemed very confused, way more than > usual, and talking very nonsensical. This has > started happening within the last week. I had him > tested for a UTI at the nh, but it came back so low > on the results that no antibiotics have been issued > to him. At 2AM Monday morning, Jim woke up and > seemed very weak, his breathing was shallow and he > could hardly respond to me, so I had the paramedics > come and get him and bring him to emergency. They > have run blood tests, UTI test, ,CT scan and all > kinds of tests, but so far can't find anything. He > became aggressive with the nurses. I sat with him > from 2:30AM to 6PM on Monday, I wanted to make sure > none of the medications on the bad LBD side were > issued to him. I spoke with almost every shift to > make sure they know not to give him certain > medications. Jim has a medic alert bracelet on, but > they don't pay attention to that I don't think. I > have never seen anyone really stop to > read it. Jim does have arthritis in his knees and I > think that is what made him aggitated, because after > being in bed for so long they started to hurt. He is > allergic to the medications they have tried for his > arthritis before, so they gave him nothing. I don't > think they realized that his knees were in pain and > that caused him to be aggitated. It took me some > time to figure it out when he was very fidgity and > aggitated. I finally went up and asked for a Tylenol > for him and it relieved the pain and he fell sound > asleep. I use Tylenol at home and also some of the > overcounter arthritis helpers with deep heating > action like patches and ActivOn and they really seem > to help him. Of course, the hospital had nothing > like that to put on his knees, they only think in > terms of oral drugs. > They have transfered Jim to another hospital about > half an hour away from me, they wanted to keep an > eye on him, I pray all my requests have transfered > with him. I will go visit Jim today. The one thing > they did do was hydrate Jim, as usual he was > dehydrated and they gave him two bags of hydration. > He seemed to perk up after that, so maybe it all > comes down to he was dehydrated. I keep the liquids > pouring into him at home, but I don't think they > have a good watch on that at the nh. He needs to > have thickener in his liquids and I just don't think > they take the time to put thickener in his liquids, > the head nurse does at certain times, but when he is > thirsty none of the CNAs take the time inbetween > meals to thicken liquids for him and give him > liquids. > I'll keep you informed when I see him > today............Jan > > > > --------------------------------- > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jan, Hope Jim is doing better! Wish there was a way for staff to understand the simple hydration is so important and saves them work! Jacquie, Hope you are on the mend and feeling better after surgery. Hugs to you both. Donna R Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other than mine. Re: Jim in hospital Jan Jim is in my prayers. I hope they find out what is wrong and correct it quickly. Cyber Hugs from Fl Jacqui ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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