Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Re: Wheelchair

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Hi Rick.

Ouch!

First, if you've not already, get Lexi out of the wheelchair! It certainly is

putting quite a bit of stress on her pectoral girdle and cervico-thoracic spine.

Can you do some land-based therapy with her? Get her in standing/weight

bearing. It will do wonders for her. What are her pelvic limb reflexes like?

Is she continent? Tail wagging/working at all?

If Lexi must get into a wheelchair again, this chair needs significant

modification. The vertical upright from the wheel isn't vertical and the wheel

needs to be more cranial-- aligned with her pelvis/greater trochanter. Some

might recommend a quad cart for a dog with pectoral limb issues. It's a

thought. I'm not going to tell you what company to order a cart through, but,

in my opinion, she needs more sufficient support both at her pelvis and with the

chest straps. All of the weight of the cart is on her thoracic spine, caudal to

her scapulae. The horizontal bar should be positioned more cranially as well.

This position creates a long lever arm with a significant torque on her spine.

Oy!

THIS should be posted for ANYONE considering a cart long term for their pet! We

need to be proactive and not discharge these patients from therapy but continue

to re-evaluate them and tune THEM (and their wheelchairs) up!

Sorry for ranting. I'm at a GLORIOUS pre-conference course on motor control of

the trunk. Lexi would be a fantastic therapy candidate!

Amie

Amie Lamoreaux Hesbach, MSPT, CCRP, CCRT

Physical Therapist

Massachusetts Veterinary Referral Hospital

20 Cabot Road

Woburn, MA 01801

Phone:

Fax:

E-mail: ahesbach@...

Website: www.IVGMassVet.com

> Group,

>

> I am just starting to work with this very interesting patient for a thoracic

limb issue, however, Lexi has been in a wheelchair for the past 3 years

following an acute onset, undiagnosed SCI. I have no experience in working with

wheelchair patients, especially one that has spent the last 3 years in one. Any

thoughts or suggestions might be helpful. I have attached a link to a password

protected video on Vimeo. A case description is with Video. With all the DJD I

would expect her to be more painful than her examination reveals however we will

be starting aggressive pain management.

>

> http://vimeo.com/19712661

>

> Rick Wall

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I visited with our neurologists regarding this case, and they suspected this is actually a nice presentation of DISH disease, or Diffuse Idiopathic Skeletal Hyperostosis. This is a very common disease in boxers. We have also seen this in a German shepherd and a cat. This disease can be an incidental finding without neurologic deficits. The opinion of our neuro department is that the carts probably don't worsen or accelerate the disease, but the limited spinal mobility with the disease is more of an issue. J. Sessum, RVTTexas A & M UniversityCollege of Veterinary MedicineSmall Animal Rehabilitation & Surgery Technician Supervisorhttp://vmth.tamu.edu/rehab.shtmlFacebook: Veterinary Sports Medicine and Rehabilitation >>> Amie Hesbach 2/8/2011 4:58 PM >>>Hi Rick.Ouch!First, if you've not already, get Lexi out of the wheelchair! It certainly is putting quite a bit of stress on her pectoral girdle and cervico-thoracic spine. Can you do some land-based therapy with her? Get her in standing/weight bearing. It will do wonders for her. What are her pelvic limb reflexes like? Is she continent? Tail wagging/working at all?If Lexi must get into a wheelchair again, this chair needs significant modification. The vertical upright from the wheel isn't vertical and the wheel needs to be more cranial-- aligned with her pelvis/greater trochanter. Some might recommend a quad cart for a dog with pectoral limb issues. It's a thought. I'm not going to tell you what company to order a cart through, but, in my opinion, she needs more sufficient support both at her pelvis and with the chest straps. All of the weight of the cart is on her thoracic spine, caudal to her scapulae. The horizontal bar should be positioned more cranially as well. This position creates a long lever arm with a significant torque on her spine.Oy!THIS should be posted for ANYONE considering a cart long term for their pet! We need to be proactive and not discharge these patients from therapy but continue to re-evaluate them and tune THEM (and their wheelchairs) up!Sorry for ranting. I'm at a GLORIOUS pre-conference course on motor control of the trunk. Lexi would be a fantastic therapy candidate!AmieAmie Lamoreaux Hesbach, MSPT, CCRP, CCRTPhysical TherapistMassachusetts Veterinary Referral Hospital20 Cabot RoadWoburn, MA 01801Phone: Fax: E-mail: ahesbach@...Website: www.IVGMassVet.comOn Feb 8, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Rick Wall, DVM wrote:> Group,> > I am just starting to work with this very interesting patient for a thoracic limb issue, however, Lexi has been in a wheelchair for the past 3 years following an acute onset, undiagnosed SCI. I have no experience in working with wheelchair patients, especially one that has spent the last 3 years in one. Any thoughts or suggestions might be helpful. I have attached a link to a password protected video on Vimeo. A case description is with Video. With all the DJD I would expect her to be more painful than her examination reveals however we will be starting aggressive pain management.> > http://vimeo.com/19712661> > Rick Wall> > ------------------------------------

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

Your input is invaluable! You have access to experts that many of us can only

dream of! Thank you so much for your response and efforts to answer questions

that we seek. This is the cooperation between disciplines that we all desire!

I am very fortunate to be so close to Texas A & M, both from a geographical and

ideological perspective!

Rick Wall

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree with Amie. Lexi needs a refit. Additional considerations for fit: I am

concerned by the slope from cranial to caudal trunk (i.e the back is not level)

and I am concerned by the saddle/support for the caudal aspect of the body.

Even with a more level spine the support for the abdomen and pelvis could be

improved for comfort; with the current sloped position any discomfort in the

saddle fit is exacerbated by the increase weight carried by the saddle and

abdominal straps. Straps are likely (though I can't see them) narrow and this

concentrates pressure over relatively small areas (pinchy and digs in... think

about repelling in a climbing harness..you don't want to hang there all day!)

This looks like a DISH case to me too albeit incomplete. I have seen this in 2

Boxers so far. I agree that neurologically they have been fine and the spine

itself does not seem to be painful on palpation; However, I found a lot of

myofascial pathology suspected to be associated with the decreased spinal

mobility.

The lesion at what appears to be T5-6 is suspicious and not related to DISH.

It's hard to read clearly on the video, but the dorsal spinous process of T5

appears odd in addition to the bodies of the vertebrae. What does the VD or DV

look like? Although the history is protracted and that seems to speak against

it, I would still ruleout an aggressive lesion. On the other hand any chance

it's a hemivertebrae?

Still looking for reasons for pathology and recent changes to the thoracic limb.

What does her cervical spine look like clinically and radiographically? (do you

have cervical films) Is there any evidence of root signature? What are the

reflexes and CP's like on the thoracic limbs.

Lastly a big AMEN to Amie's comment about followup and continued reassessment

whenever any any medical device is prescribed.

Patrice M. Mich DVM, MS, DABVP, DACVA

OrthoPets Medical director and owner

Specialist in pain medicine and mobility

Denver, CO

>

> > Group,

> >

> > I am just starting to work with this very interesting patient for a thoracic

limb issue, however, Lexi has been in a wheelchair for the past 3 years

following an acute onset, undiagnosed SCI. I have no experience in working with

wheelchair patients, especially one that has spent the last 3 years in one. Any

thoughts or suggestions might be helpful. I have attached a link to a password

protected video on Vimeo. A case description is with Video. With all the DJD I

would expect her to be more painful than her examination reveals however we will

be starting aggressive pain management.

> >

> > http://vimeo.com/19712661

> >

> > Rick Wall

> >

> >

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Amie,

thank you so very much for your comments. I don't know who fitted her

originally and I just don't have any experience with carts and wheel chairs.

Regarding getting her out however, severe OA of hips with limited ROM and both

stifle, past CCLD, one had surgery. The ROM of the stifles is less than 20

degrees w/ hard, bone end feel both ways, they are maintained is the same

position out of the cart as when in cart. Amazingly enough she has very little

pain. We are focusing our efforts on her thoracic limbs and now will discuss

refitting cart.

Rick

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 6 months later...

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...