Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hello, Just wondering if she's been tested for H Pylori?. Might be worth a go if not.... Hannah. ________________________________ To: ukherbal-list Sent: Thu, 20 January, 2011 12:18:01 Subject: child with bad breath  Hi all I wondered if anyone had any experience with this as I appear to be hitting a brick wall with this case. An 11 year old child i have been treating for about a year and a half. Started out with horrendous hayfever/ breathing/catarrh and digestive problems - identified as dairy intolerant. All of the problems listed have cleared or are managed. She has been amazingly compliant with a dairy free diet and sugar kept to a very very low level. The whole family have adapted and adjusted to support her so she is now virtually dairy free. Her breathing is much better, she always sounded like she had a heavy cold. Over the past four or five months her mum has complained about her bad breath and she is very self conscious at school about it. Normally I would think dairy, but she is dairy free. Her dentist has checked our oral hygiene and all is well there. I have been treating her with a variety of bitters and digestive herbs over this period of time. Whilst she is taking the mix, her breath improves but within two weeks of stopping any herbs, her bad breath resumes. I feel i'm missing something and would appreciate any advice. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hi Hannah, That was one of my thought's given that its not responding permanently. Thank you child with bad breath  Hi all I wondered if anyone had any experience with this as I appear to be hitting a brick wall with this case. An 11 year old child i have been treating for about a year and a half. Started out with horrendous hayfever/ breathing/catarrh and digestive problems - identified as dairy intolerant. All of the problems listed have cleared or are managed. She has been amazingly compliant with a dairy free diet and sugar kept to a very very low level. The whole family have adapted and adjusted to support her so she is now virtually dairy free. Her breathing is much better, she always sounded like she had a heavy cold. Over the past four or five months her mum has complained about her bad breath and she is very self conscious at school about it. Normally I would think dairy, but she is dairy free. Her dentist has checked our oral hygiene and all is well there. I have been treating her with a variety of bitters and digestive herbs over this period of time. Whilst she is taking the mix, her breath improves but within two weeks of stopping any herbs, her bad breath resumes. I feel i'm missing something and would appreciate any advice. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hi Jean Is it a catarrhal smell? Sally > Hi all > > I wondered if anyone had any experience with this as I appear to be > hitting a brick wall with this case. An 11 year old child i have been > treating for about a year and a half. Started out with horrendous > hayfever/ breathing/catarrh and digestive problems - identified as > dairy intolerant. All of the problems listed have cleared or are > managed. She has been amazingly compliant with a dairy free diet and > sugar kept to a very very low level. The whole family have adapted > and > adjusted to support her so she is now virtually dairy free. Her > breathing is much better, she always sounded like she had a heavy > cold. > Over the past four or five months her mum has complained about her > bad > breath and she is very self conscious at school about it. Normally I > would think dairy, but she is dairy free. Her dentist has checked our > oral hygiene and all is well there. I have been treating her with a > variety of bitters and digestive herbs over this period of time. > Whilst she is taking the mix, her breath improves but within two weeks > of stopping any herbs, her bad breath resumes. I feel i'm missing > something and would appreciate any advice. > > Jean > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Owner: Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Low grade chronic sinusitis? Subject: child with bad breath To: ukherbal-list Date: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 12:18  Hi all I wondered if anyone had any experience with this as I appear to be hitting a brick wall with this case. An 11 year old child i have been treating for about a year and a half. Started out with horrendous hayfever/ breathing/catarrh and digestive problems - identified as dairy intolerant. All of the problems listed have cleared or are managed. She has been amazingly compliant with a dairy free diet and sugar kept to a very very low level. The whole family have adapted and adjusted to support her so she is now virtually dairy free. Her breathing is much better, she always sounded like she had a heavy cold. Over the past four or five months her mum has complained about her bad breath and she is very self conscious at school about it. Normally I would think dairy, but she is dairy free. Her dentist has checked our oral hygiene and all is well there. I have been treating her with a variety of bitters and digestive herbs over this period of time. Whilst she is taking the mix, her breath improves but within two weeks of stopping any herbs, her bad breath resumes. I feel i'm missing something and would appreciate any advice. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 If you think the bad breath is related to the dairy intolerance, give Glechoma hedera, and plenty of it. In my experience, if someone is dairy intolerant while eating dairy, it can set up a kind of reservoir of catarrh at a deep level. Glechoma shifts this up and out My story: slightly intolerant of dairy my whole life. Became vegan for a year, symptoms mostly cleared up but I was still kinda phlegmy, thought it was just normal for me. I tried ground ivy as a tea just out of curiosity, and LOVED it. Couldn't get enough if it: five, six cups a day every day. After about 10 days I started producing sticky catarrh on all my mucous membranes. Another few days later I had a wet cough. No Sx of any illness or URTI. Realised it was deep reserves of catarrh shifting, and started taking expectorants and mucilagenous herbs to assist the expulsion. A week after that, all dried up and Ground Ivy seemed less pleasant to my palate, so I stopped drinking it. Nowadays, I am still a little intolerant of dairy, but I can eat it without worrying so long as I don't pig out on it, and so long as I take a little ground ivy in my daily constitutional tea mix. Other things to consider: Is she hypochloridic? Cinnamon and nutmeg for this. Do a google search for hypochloridia halitosis Sluggish slow digestion? Chyme backing up in the system? Doubt it if you've been giving all those hepatics. Tension and anxiety? Self hate? Give rose and avena. Constipation? Have you smelt her bad breathe? what does it smell like, remind you of? What emotional response does it trigger for you? All the best! Cristina > > >Low grade chronic sinusitis? > > > >From: <mailto:jeanrdow%40aol.com>jeanrdow@... > >Subject: child with bad breath >To: <mailto:ukherbal-list%40yahoogroups.com>ukherbal-list >Date: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 12:18 > > > >Hi all > >I wondered if anyone had any experience with this as I appear to be > >hitting a brick wall with this case. An 11 year old child i have been > >treating for about a year and a half. Started out with horrendous > >hayfever/ breathing/catarrh and digestive problems - identified as > >dairy intolerant. All of the problems listed have cleared or are > >managed. She has been amazingly compliant with a dairy free diet and > >sugar kept to a very very low level. The whole family have adapted and > >adjusted to support her so she is now virtually dairy free. Her > >breathing is much better, she always sounded like she had a heavy cold. > >Over the past four or five months her mum has complained about her bad > >breath and she is very self conscious at school about it. Normally I > >would think dairy, but she is dairy free. Her dentist has checked our > >oral hygiene and all is well there. I have been treating her with a > >variety of bitters and digestive herbs over this period of time. > >Whilst she is taking the mix, her breath improves but within two weeks > >of stopping any herbs, her bad breath resumes. I feel i'm missing > >something and would appreciate any advice. > >Jean > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Wow - lots to think about. She is a very hot and fiery child. Huge emotional stressors in that her father left her mother and the two girls, three years ago for her mothers best friend. Enormous turmoil and even although her mother is in a very stable relationship with a lovely man there is still a huge amount of anger in the house. Her sister refuses to see her dad any more so this wee one is getting all the " crap " from her dad and stress from her mum. The family home is very loving and supportive but has been through a lot. Constipation - she definitely suffers from that, despite the bitters/warming aromatics and digestive herbs. I've very careful about giving her any hot mixes as she is a very hot child. I would say that she is beginning puberty at present and mood/temper is worse than usual. Her sleep was very bad in that she was extremely restless and talking in her sleep. This has settled a lot with a mood/calming/cooling mix. I'm popping in to see her tonight so will smell her breath and try to describe it. I don't know what a catarrh smell really smells like as opposed to any other bad breath smell. Thank you for all the suggestions, anything else will be gratefully appreciated. jean child with bad breath >To: <mailto:ukherbal-list%40yahoogroups.com>;ukherbal-list >Date: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 12:18 > > > >Hi all > >I wondered if anyone had any experience with this as I appear to be > >hitting a brick wall with this case. An 11 year old child i have been > >treating for about a year and a half. Started out with horrendous > >hayfever/ breathing/catarrh and digestive problems - identified as > >dairy intolerant. All of the problems listed have cleared or are > >managed. She has been amazingly compliant with a dairy free diet and > >sugar kept to a very very low level. The whole family have adapted and > >adjusted to support her so she is now virtually dairy free. Her > >breathing is much better, she always sounded like she had a heavy cold. > >Over the past four or five months her mum has complained about her bad > >breath and she is very self conscious at school about it. Normally I > >would think dairy, but she is dairy free. Her dentist has checked our > >oral hygiene and all is well there. I have been treating her with a > >variety of bitters and digestive herbs over this period of time. > >Whilst she is taking the mix, her breath improves but within two weeks > >of stopping any herbs, her bad breath resumes. I feel i'm missing > >something and would appreciate any advice. > >Jean > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hi Jean Might she have worms or another parasite? Chicken and egg as to whether that would lead to dysbiosis or the dysbiosis permit parasite. Anger, emotional upset etc could lead to dysbiosis which in turn could give rise to dairy intolerance (or vice versa - chicken and egg again) and hence catarrh, restlessness and so on. She may be fiery but is her digestion fiery ? Or is it fiery enough to have good digestion and not putrefaction? atb > > Hi all > > I wondered if anyone had any experience with this as I appear to be > hitting a brick wall with this case. An 11 year old child i have been > treating for about a year and a half. Started out with horrendous > hayfever/ breathing/catarrh and digestive problems - identified as > dairy intolerant. All of the problems listed have cleared or are > managed. She has been amazingly compliant with a dairy free diet and > sugar kept to a very very low level. The whole family have adapted and > adjusted to support her so she is now virtually dairy free. Her > breathing is much better, she always sounded like she had a heavy cold. > Over the past four or five months her mum has complained about her bad > breath and she is very self conscious at school about it. Normally I > would think dairy, but she is dairy free. Her dentist has checked our > oral hygiene and all is well there. I have been treating her with a > variety of bitters and digestive herbs over this period of time. > Whilst she is taking the mix, her breath improves but within two weeks > of stopping any herbs, her bad breath resumes. I feel i'm missing > something and would appreciate any advice. > > Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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