Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hello all, Back in March 2006 there was mention on this list regarding the use of Ribes nigrum to help raise cortisol levels and reduce the use of Prednisone. I believe it was who raised this idea. I am quite interested in this concept; would or anyone else who's tried this please tell me more? I'd like to hear what doses were used, frequency of dose and how long the " weaning " period took in order to stop the use of Prednisone. Any and all thoughts welcome. Thanks very much in advance, Kerry -- Kerry Hackett, MNIMH, RH Medical Herbalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Hi I wonder if anyone on this list has bought Ribes Nigrum Glycerite (made from buds) from Medica and could sell me a smaller amount. I am interested in buying 100-200ml. You can contact me off-line or e-mail me: helloanna99@... Regards Betz To: ukherbal-list@...: peterawhitton@...: Mon, 28 May 2007 04:28:53 -0400Subject: Re: retail therapy In a message dated 28/05/2007 09:21:21 GMT Standard Time, amanda.dean4@... writes:I have been asked by the wholefood shop below my practice to supply them with tinctures of various well known and commonly used herbs eg Echinacea, Calendula etc.Under the Traditional Medicines Regulations you would have to register each product with the MHRA as they will be sold over the counter. As far as Organic status I beleive that you need to be certified organic but can claim " made by organic methods " without certification. WhittonManaging DirectorPhyto-Research Ltd30 Crafton Street WestLeicester LE1 2DE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hi , I get my Ribes from Medica but I know Rutland also do it. I dug out my info on it from Medica: It is a glycerite of the buds of ribes, a branch of Herbal Medicine called Gemmotherapy formulated by Dr J C Lapraz a french phyto therapist. It is only effective as a glycerite. It directly stimulates the adrenals to produce cortisol directly, rather than via the pituitary and ACTH. Of benefit to people with allergies as ACTH is often already high in an effort to stimulate to adrenals to produce more cortisol. It must be avoided in people with already high cortisol levels through excessive stress. Essential oils can be added direct to it. Recomended dose 2ml BD Approx 30ml /week Also on this info sheet is this on canina another gemmotherapy glycerite. Works as an adrenal cortex restorative without the direct cortisol effect of Ribes. It is supportive where there is adrenal stress is useful after Ribes is discontinued or in cases where adrenal support forms a feature of the treatment plan. Gemmotherapy might go against the idea of herbal medicines restorative roots- it does seem to me to be leaning more into allopathic approaches especially the Ribes but I've seen good results with it and always take care to put in nutrition and theraputics to address the deficiency that caused the problem in the first place. Hope that helps! Best Wishes and Kind Regards, Zoe Hawes Medical Herbalist MNIMH RGN Dip Phyt. www.herbaljournal.co.uk 7 Carlingcott, Peasedown St , Bath. BA2 8AR 01761 439 920 > Dear Zoe, > > I would also like to know more about Ribes nigrum as a remedy for > adrenal exhaustion. Which supplier do you purchase it from? And is > it always best in glycerite or can you also use tincture/tea or > powder to add to a capsule mix? > > Also on the subject of Thyroid/adrenal exhaustion, I have just read > a fantastic book on the subject which is certainly worth a look, > called 'The Great Thyroid Scandal and How to Survive it' by Dr > Barry Durrant-Peatfield (ISBN 0-9544203-0-6). He talks about the > complications of the blood tests normally carried out to test > thyroid function and how the results can sometimes be a > misrepresentation of what is really going on (I can't describe the > detail I'm afraid, I would have to go back and read it over again!) > leading people to be told 'there's nothing wrong with your thyroid' > when it has been under-functioning for quite a while, and may well > be the fundamental cause of their other symptoms and ill health. > > He makes the link extremely well with low adrenal function, as well > as a range of other health conditions. Being an orthodox GP he > recommends low dose cortisol for adrenal exhaustion and whole > thyroid extract (known as 'Armour') as oppose to thyroixine for low > thyroid function. Obviously as herbalists we would be looking for > the botanical equivalent of these kinds of treatments. I wonder if > anyone has any input? > Ridley BSc (Hons) > M.N.I.M.H. MEDICAL HERBALIST > www.jerseyherbalist.co.uk > 07797 848541 > > __________________________________________________________ > The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail > http://www.newhotmail.co.uk > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Zoe Hawes wrote: > I get my Ribes from Medica but I know Rutland also do it. > I dug out my info on it from Medica: > It is a glycerite of the buds of ribes, a branch of Herbal Medicine > called Gemmotherapy formulated by Dr J C Lapraz a french phyto > therapist. > It is only effective as a glycerite. .... wrong. I've made a 1:2 95 % alcohol tincture from leaf buds of Ribes nigrum. It works wonders in allergies; I haven't tried it in adrenal exhaustion (I use nettle seeds there). Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 > Thats good to know Henriette, the glycerite is expensive! Thanks, Zoe > > > > It is only effective as a glycerite. > > ... wrong. I've made a 1:2 95 % alcohol tincture from leaf buds of > Ribes > nigrum. It works wonders in allergies; I haven't tried it in adrenal > exhaustion (I use nettle seeds there). > > Henriette > > - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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