RE: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

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Thyroid?

Val

From: rhythmicliving

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Behalf Of colleencheney

In the meantime, I am

feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

and memory problems.

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What is your progesterone regimen?

My experience so far w/ bhrt is that you must have the right amount of both E and P. It's tricky to find the right dosages, but so worth it of course. I have not tried the patch - I just switched to oestrogel, and I really like it.

and personally, I would go by your symptoms, rather than blood levels, and be sure you are taking adequate prog. in the right cycle for you! Let me know!

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now!

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Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen Climb to the top of the charts!  Play Star Shuffle:  the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now!

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Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Get 'em!

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Are you ovaries still working in some form? That may explain the up and down.

Karin (bigbird)

>

> Hi, all,

>

> Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has

> happened so far.

>

> Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

>

> 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100

>

> 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025

>

> 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.

> Oct 3 level 88 pg

>

> I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am

> feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

> and memory problems.

>

> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>

> Colleen

>

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Hi, Val, All of my thyroid tests showed good results. Had cortrysyn challenge test -- fine. Only thing endo doc turned up was vit d deficiency and hashi antibodies. Thyroid ultrasound shows "significantly abnormal gland," but doc says not an issue because replacement thyroid hormone making up for it. Colleen Valarie wrote: Thyroid? Val From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On Behalf Of

colleencheney In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems. __________________________________________________

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Hi, Christa, Good suggestion but I am a little gun shy about adjusting dosages because my endometrial ultrasound showed a 9 mm lining from all of the estrogen. Should be less than 5 mm. Next one is in November -- I'm hoping it is okay. Thanks. Colleen Christa McClellan wrote: Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff

amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?Christa To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheneyDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am

going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now! __________________________________________________

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Hi, Karin, My last ultrasound showed multiple cysts on left ovary which report said displaced most of ovarian tissue. I don't know if this would cause the fluctuations. I'm 55 and post menopausal for four years. Colleenbigbird3099 wrote: Are you ovaries still working in some form? That may explain the up and down.Karin (bigbird)>> Hi, all,> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has > happened so far.> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining> decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.> Oct 3 level 88 pg> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention > and memory problems.> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> >

Colleen> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi, Karin, My last ultrasound showed multiple cysts on left ovary which report said displaced most of ovarian tissue. I don't know if this would cause the fluctuations. I'm 55 and post menopausal for four years. Colleenbigbird3099 wrote: Are you ovaries still working in some form? That may explain the up and down.Karin (bigbird)>> Hi, all,> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has > happened so far.> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining> decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.> Oct 3 level 88 pg> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention > and memory problems.> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> >

Colleen> __________________________________________________

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Hi, Karin, My last ultrasound showed multiple cysts on left ovary which report said displaced most of ovarian tissue. I don't know if this would cause the fluctuations. I'm 55 and post menopausal for four years. Colleenbigbird3099 wrote: Are you ovaries still working in some form? That may explain the up and down.Karin (bigbird)>> Hi, all,> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has > happened so far.> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining> decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.> Oct 3 level 88 pg> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention > and memory problems.> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> >

Colleen> __________________________________________________

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Colleen (and all):

I have heard that you can cut the patches (Vliet) and I've heard

that you can't. If you're not opposed to the idea of mixing

products (Vliet does this all the time), you might try the Menostar

match which is 14 mcg or .014 mg of estradiol OR supplementing with

a little oral SR or gel.

I believe that testosterone DOES help with mood..but take care and

start very very slow..almost homeopathic doses (we can chat more

about that off-line).

Good Luck,

Angie

> >

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what

has

> > happened so far.

> >

> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

> >

> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over

100

> >

> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased

by .025

> >

> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> > decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg

ttl.

> > Oct 3 level 88 pg

> >

> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I

am

> > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain &

attention

> > and memory problems.

> >

> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> > Colleen

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Colleen (and all):

I have heard that you can cut the patches (Vliet) and I've heard

that you can't. If you're not opposed to the idea of mixing

products (Vliet does this all the time), you might try the Menostar

match which is 14 mcg or .014 mg of estradiol OR supplementing with

a little oral SR or gel.

I believe that testosterone DOES help with mood..but take care and

start very very slow..almost homeopathic doses (we can chat more

about that off-line).

Good Luck,

Angie

> >

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what

has

> > happened so far.

> >

> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

> >

> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over

100

> >

> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased

by .025

> >

> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> > decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg

ttl.

> > Oct 3 level 88 pg

> >

> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I

am

> > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain &

attention

> > and memory problems.

> >

> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> > Colleen

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Colleen (and all):

I have heard that you can cut the patches (Vliet) and I've heard

that you can't. If you're not opposed to the idea of mixing

products (Vliet does this all the time), you might try the Menostar

match which is 14 mcg or .014 mg of estradiol OR supplementing with

a little oral SR or gel.

I believe that testosterone DOES help with mood..but take care and

start very very slow..almost homeopathic doses (we can chat more

about that off-line).

Good Luck,

Angie

> >

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what

has

> > happened so far.

> >

> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

> >

> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over

100

> >

> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased

by .025

> >

> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> > decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg

ttl.

> > Oct 3 level 88 pg

> >

> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I

am

> > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain &

attention

> > and memory problems.

> >

> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> > Colleen

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Colleen

You didnt say if you were also taking progesterone. It's very dangerous not to. What is your Prog. dosage?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:15:20 -0700Subject: RE: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, Christa,

Good suggestion but I am a little gun shy about adjusting dosages because my endometrial ultrasound showed a 9 mm lining from all of the estrogen. Should be less than 5 mm.

Next one is in November -- I'm hoping it is okay.

Thanks.

Colleen Christa McClellan <x_a88hotmail> wrote:

Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheneyDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen

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Colleen

You didnt say if you were also taking progesterone. It's very dangerous not to. What is your Prog. dosage?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:15:20 -0700Subject: RE: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, Christa,

Good suggestion but I am a little gun shy about adjusting dosages because my endometrial ultrasound showed a 9 mm lining from all of the estrogen. Should be less than 5 mm.

Next one is in November -- I'm hoping it is okay.

Thanks.

Colleen Christa McClellan <x_a88hotmail> wrote:

Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheneyDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen

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Colleen

You didnt say if you were also taking progesterone. It's very dangerous not to. What is your Prog. dosage?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:15:20 -0700Subject: RE: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, Christa,

Good suggestion but I am a little gun shy about adjusting dosages because my endometrial ultrasound showed a 9 mm lining from all of the estrogen. Should be less than 5 mm.

Next one is in November -- I'm hoping it is okay.

Thanks.

Colleen Christa McClellan <x_a88hotmail> wrote:

Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheneyDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen

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Colleen

You didnt say if you were also taking progesterone. It's very dangerous not to. What is your Prog. dosage?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:15:20 -0700Subject: RE: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, Christa,

Good suggestion but I am a little gun shy about adjusting dosages because my endometrial ultrasound showed a 9 mm lining from all of the estrogen. Should be less than 5 mm.

Next one is in November -- I'm hoping it is okay.

Thanks.

Colleen Christa McClellan <x_a88hotmail> wrote:

Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheneyDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen

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Colleen

You didnt say if you were also taking progesterone. It's very dangerous not to. What is your Prog. dosage?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:15:20 -0700Subject: RE: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, Christa,

Good suggestion but I am a little gun shy about adjusting dosages because my endometrial ultrasound showed a 9 mm lining from all of the estrogen. Should be less than 5 mm.

Next one is in November -- I'm hoping it is okay.

Thanks.

Colleen Christa McClellan <x_a88hotmail> wrote:

Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheneyDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen

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Colleen

You didnt say if you were also taking progesterone. It's very dangerous not to. What is your Prog. dosage?

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheney@...Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:15:20 -0700Subject: RE: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, Christa,

Good suggestion but I am a little gun shy about adjusting dosages because my endometrial ultrasound showed a 9 mm lining from all of the estrogen. Should be less than 5 mm.

Next one is in November -- I'm hoping it is okay.

Thanks.

Colleen Christa McClellan <x_a88hotmail> wrote:

Colleen - reading your letter again makes me still think that you are too low on estrogen. everyone needs diff amounts to feel good. I am 42 and petite, but I still am using high doses of E to feel right and knock out the sypmtoms. maybe an E gel would be better for you because you can adjust the amounts as needed?Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: colleencheneyDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:36:01 +0000Subject: Vivelle dot patch & absorption

Hi, all,Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has happened so far.Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 1002nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .0253rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm liningdecrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.Oct 3 level 88 pgI am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention and memory problems.Any thoughts would be appreciated.Colleen

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I know that the cysts do cause problems. PCOS has multiple cysts occur w/higher

than

normal testosterone with E not quite high enough to balance. It seems to me that

if your

ovary still has cysts it has not completely quieted down. Have you checked

certain Vitamin

and mineral levels and been tested for any gluten issues?

Karin (bigbird)

> >

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has

> > happened so far.

> >

> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

> >

> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100

> >

> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025

> >

> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> > decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.

> > Oct 3 level 88 pg

> >

> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am

> > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

> > and memory problems.

> >

> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> > Colleen

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I know that the cysts do cause problems. PCOS has multiple cysts occur w/higher

than

normal testosterone with E not quite high enough to balance. It seems to me that

if your

ovary still has cysts it has not completely quieted down. Have you checked

certain Vitamin

and mineral levels and been tested for any gluten issues?

Karin (bigbird)

> >

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has

> > happened so far.

> >

> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

> >

> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100

> >

> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025

> >

> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> > decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.

> > Oct 3 level 88 pg

> >

> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am

> > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

> > and memory problems.

> >

> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> > Colleen

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I know that the cysts do cause problems. PCOS has multiple cysts occur w/higher

than

normal testosterone with E not quite high enough to balance. It seems to me that

if your

ovary still has cysts it has not completely quieted down. Have you checked

certain Vitamin

and mineral levels and been tested for any gluten issues?

Karin (bigbird)

> >

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has

> > happened so far.

> >

> > Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

> >

> > 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100

> >

> > 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025

> >

> > 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> > decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.

> > Oct 3 level 88 pg

> >

> > I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am

> > feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

> > and memory problems.

> >

> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> > Colleen

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Colleen,

It seems like your absorption is inconsistent. I wonder if on the

first day you get more E than the second and third day of wearing the

patch? If you had your blood drawn on day one of the patch you might

get a higher level than day three of the patch??? I have never tried

any patches but I have read that they can wear off sooner than

expected. I think it was Reiss who complained about patch absorption

(my book is loaned out so I can not verify my memory by looking at the

book).

Maybe you could consider switching to oestrogel which might give you a

more consistent level. I really love my oestrogel because I feel like

I get a nice even level for 24 hours. I make sure and spread it out a

lot. I know Dr. G says to put it on fatty areas

(abdomen/thighs/butt), but I also put mine on my face/neck/back of my

hands/along my spine. I can get my small 1.25-1.5 gram dose to spread

on all those areas. I put it on immediately after my shower to

possibly help with absorption.

If you ever try it I would recommend either a scale for measuring or

using teaspoons because the little stick that comes with the oestrogel

is very inaccurate for me.

I do use a little estradiol in olive oil on my gums to possibly help

with my gum recession. I have been experimenting with using it in the

afternoon to give me a little boost after lunch (so far it is helping).

Kathy

>

> Hi, all,

>

> Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has

> happened so far.

>

> Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

>

> 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100

>

> 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025

>

> 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.

> Oct 3 level 88 pg

>

> I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am

> feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

> and memory problems.

>

> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>

> Colleen

>

[Guest guest]

Colleen,

It seems like your absorption is inconsistent. I wonder if on the

first day you get more E than the second and third day of wearing the

patch? If you had your blood drawn on day one of the patch you might

get a higher level than day three of the patch??? I have never tried

any patches but I have read that they can wear off sooner than

expected. I think it was Reiss who complained about patch absorption

(my book is loaned out so I can not verify my memory by looking at the

book).

Maybe you could consider switching to oestrogel which might give you a

more consistent level. I really love my oestrogel because I feel like

I get a nice even level for 24 hours. I make sure and spread it out a

lot. I know Dr. G says to put it on fatty areas

(abdomen/thighs/butt), but I also put mine on my face/neck/back of my

hands/along my spine. I can get my small 1.25-1.5 gram dose to spread

on all those areas. I put it on immediately after my shower to

possibly help with absorption.

If you ever try it I would recommend either a scale for measuring or

using teaspoons because the little stick that comes with the oestrogel

is very inaccurate for me.

I do use a little estradiol in olive oil on my gums to possibly help

with my gum recession. I have been experimenting with using it in the

afternoon to give me a little boost after lunch (so far it is helping).

Kathy

>

> Hi, all,

>

> Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has

> happened so far.

>

> Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

>

> 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100

>

> 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025

>

> 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.

> Oct 3 level 88 pg

>

> I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am

> feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

> and memory problems.

>

> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>

> Colleen

>

[Guest guest]

Colleen,

It seems like your absorption is inconsistent. I wonder if on the

first day you get more E than the second and third day of wearing the

patch? If you had your blood drawn on day one of the patch you might

get a higher level than day three of the patch??? I have never tried

any patches but I have read that they can wear off sooner than

expected. I think it was Reiss who complained about patch absorption

(my book is loaned out so I can not verify my memory by looking at the

book).

Maybe you could consider switching to oestrogel which might give you a

more consistent level. I really love my oestrogel because I feel like

I get a nice even level for 24 hours. I make sure and spread it out a

lot. I know Dr. G says to put it on fatty areas

(abdomen/thighs/butt), but I also put mine on my face/neck/back of my

hands/along my spine. I can get my small 1.25-1.5 gram dose to spread

on all those areas. I put it on immediately after my shower to

possibly help with absorption.

If you ever try it I would recommend either a scale for measuring or

using teaspoons because the little stick that comes with the oestrogel

is very inaccurate for me.

I do use a little estradiol in olive oil on my gums to possibly help

with my gum recession. I have been experimenting with using it in the

afternoon to give me a little boost after lunch (so far it is helping).

Kathy

>

> Hi, all,

>

> Has anyone had problem with the Vivelle dot patch? Here is what has

> happened so far.

>

> Started Vivelle with two patches .1 mg. and .05 (.15 mg ttl)

>

> 1st level 85 pg. -- increased by .025 mg. to get pg's over 100

>

> 2nd level 181 pg. -- too much for post meno so decreased by .025

>

> 3rd level 234 pg. -- way too much & now have 9 mm lining

> decrease by .025 mg. again to .125 mg ttl.

> Oct 3 level 88 pg

>

> I am going crazy trying to figure this out. In the meantime, I am

> feeling very depressed with great fatigue and foggy brain & attention

> and memory problems.

>

> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>

> Colleen

>