RE: void test after radical prostatectomy surgery

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Jerry

My experience is the difficulty holding the urine after a prostatectomy. I had a very poor weekend as the hospital had no pads handy and it was the Monday that I was fitted up with a Texas (external) Catheter that I wore for about 6 months before I dried up enough to wear small ladies night time pads (back to front).

I think you need to be prepared for a similar experience with pads available and the odds are that you will not need them - this follows the rule that if you take an umbrella it doesn't rain but if you forget the umbrella it pours down!

Best wishes and many negligable PSAs in the future

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Thanks for the info. but I just can't quite visualize the thing. I do know all about Foleys and I hate the damn things. Hopefully I won't need either kind after tomorrow but you never know---- Metcalf wrote:

Jerry

External catheter - This is a sheath that connects to the catheter and is changed daily. It sticks to the penis and has to be soaked off. I found I had to choose one that could easily be parted from the tube so normal urination can take place - with an added extention directing flow was easier. A bit of a time consumer but cleaner than pads and less painful than a Foley!

-----Original Message-----From: jerry Wenger Sent: 20 July 2004 19:13To: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: void test after radical prostatectomy surgery

Thanks for answering . What is a Texas external catheter ????? I have been wearing a Foley indwelling catheter for 8 weeks and I hate the dreaded thing. I can't sleep on my back anymore and my penis feels like it has been torn up by a cat.I'm about to find out Thursday morning at 9AM how this deal will turn out. Thanks again --------- Metcalf wrote:

Jerry

My experience is the difficulty holding the urine after a prostatectomy. I had a very poor weekend as the hospital had no pads handy and it was the Monday that I was fitted up with a Texas (external) Catheter that I wore for about 6 months before I dried up enough to wear small ladies night time pads (back to front).

I think you need to be prepared for a similar experience with pads available and the odds are that you will not need them - this follows the rule that if you take an umbrella it doesn't rain but if you forget the umbrella it pours down!

Best wishes and many negligable PSAs in the future

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Enjoy a touch of green tea with lemon in the car first?

jerry Wenger wrote:

> Glad to hear the advice. I am going in to the Dr. tomorrow 9am and

> will stand after they put the 200cc water in me. I hope to God I can

> pee because I do not want any part of thta Foley catheter again. If I

> ever see another one again it'll be too soon----------

> " Mark L. " wrote:

>

> I had a Foley inserted when I was seeded. Oh, they do have

> such nice

> drugs in hospitals. I had a bit of controversy with the head

> nurse the

> next morning, though. She wouldn't let me go home until I

> showed that I

> could pass a certain amount of water in a bed pan. She tried

> to get me

> to use the damned thing lying down. I had to convince her

> that I

> couldn't possibly let go that sphincter without standing.

> She didn't

> want me out of bed. I got out of the rack anyway and filled

> the jar, no

> problem. I just needed to stand. I got to go home, and with

> a script for

> some very friendly narcotics.

>

> Ah, such a life. I could've fallen in love with that nurse,

> but alas,

> there was a ring on that finger.

>

> SHOP AROUND!!! You don't necessarily have to be damaged

> right away,

> behind PCa. There're ways around ways around. Do your

> homework. Don't

> ever just listen to the first guy.

>

> jerry Wenger wrote:

>

> > Thanks for answering . What is a Texas external

> catheter

> > ????? I have been wearing a Foley indwelling catheter

> for 8 weeks

> > and I hate the dreaded thing. I can't sleep on my back

> anymore and my

> > penis feels like it has been torn up by a cat.I'm about to

> find out

> > Thursday morning at 9AM how this deal will turn out.

> Thanks again

> > --------- Metcalf wrote:

> >

> > JerryMy experience is the difficulty holding the

> urine after

> > a prostatectomy. I had a very poor weekend as the

> hospital

> > had no pads handy and it was the Monday that I was

> fitted up

> > with a Texas (external) Catheter that I wore for

> about 6

> > months before I dried up enough to wear small ladies

> night

> > time pads (back to front).I think you need to be

> prepared

> > for a similar experience with pads available and the

> odds

> > are that you will not need them - this follows the

> rule that

> > if you take an umbrella it doesn't rain but if you

> forget

> > the umbrella it pours down!Best wishes and many

> negligable

> > PSAs in the future

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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That whole deal sounds outof it for me. The bladder sphincter must not be inflamed or swollen in my case but it has not healed enough to go without a foley for an extra week. Your description of that thing reminds me of the "drain tube' and bag they had to drain my incision. When I left the hospital the nurse pulled it out. The tube was about 6 inches long and was buried in my stomach(gross) The incision is healing nicely except at the place where that stupid drain tube was. At that point I have I have severe bruising(hematoma) and it looks bad. Is this common?? Will those bruises go away??Any Idea?? Thank you again for your help at this time------------- derek robinson wrote:

No,there was no pain,they use a very sharp tube to make a tiny hole,a bit like a cork borer,thenthread a very fine plastic tube down thru the tube into the bladder,I think it is a kidneycatheter,they withdraw the tube along the catheter,attach a tap to the catheter,then attach alegbag to the tap.It is used when the urethra or bladder sphincter is very swollen or inflamedwhen a catheter could do damage.--- jerry Wenger wrote:> That suprepubic catheter installed thru the abdomen sounds like hell. Do they punch a hole in> your stomach for it. It sounds as painful as they come.I don't want that. Why not a reguler> catheter. Sounds Bad to me. What exactly is it??> > derek robinson wrote:I had similar problems,I eventually had a suprapubic> catheter installed thru the

abdomen,not as> bad as it sounds,this gave time for the uretha to sort itself out,3-4 weeks,A nurse removed it> at> the doctors office.Everything is fine now--- Inchley wrote:> > Jerry,> > > > Sorry to hear that you seized up. Not an uncommon occurrence by all> > accounts, having seen posts from others on the groups reporting the same.> > Relax a bit about what happens when the catheter comes out again. I'll wager> > you'll be OK. If you get constipated in the mean-time, see a doc or> > pharmacist if necessary and deal with it pronto......don't strain whatever> > you do.> > > > The difficulty is probably unlikely to be due simply to a closing up of the> > urethra or bladder neck, but rather to a temporary disruption of signalling> > in the part of the nervous system responsible for coordinating what is

a> > complex and finely tuned urine control set-up. If you were continent or> > pretty close to being so when the first catheter came out, I wouldn't think> > of dilation or stenting without, if necessary, being re-cathed a few more> > times first.> > > > Good luck for next time,> > > > .> > > > RE: void test after radical prostatectomy> > surgery> > > > > > Hey , Once again Ioverestimated myself. They took out the cat. and I> > peed great for 16 hours then at 1AM I COULD NOT PEE anymore. Nothing but> > spasms

in my bladder comin g EVERY 15 minutes and lasting for 15-30 seconds.> > all night long.The pain made me actually scream out. Got to Dr at 9am and> > he said it was too soon to remove the cat. (13 days) I wasn't healed up> > enough inside at the bladder neck resection area. So I guess its 10 more> > days with a new smaller diameter cat.#14 inside me. I finally got a good> > sleep and as much as I hate this thing and the bag and all. It saved my butt> > again.I hate when they shove it in your penis and pulling it out ain't no> > picnic either. But it beats bledder spasms all night long. I am wondering> > when they go thru this deal again if the same thing will happen?? Do any of> > you guys think I'll have to get an in-office ureather dilation with a stent> > etc??Any one out there have a clue about this kind of thing?? Thanks again> > fellow prostate

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