Re: new here

[Guest guest]

Happy New Year to you too. Your problems are drug induced. The Celexa is a monster of a drug that produces every single side effect you mention. All thes drugs are rotten to the core, and the sooner you get off everything, the better you will be. Don't cold turkey anything!! It's very dangerous. What are you taking now? The other best advice I can give you is to stay the hell away from psychiatrists. Not a one of them will believe the drugs did this to you. You might want to join the Withdrawal and Recovery yahoo group where there is someone who can tell you how to safely get off this poison and reclaim your life. So glad you found us. We've all been through hell and most of us weren't believed either.

"Blind Reason"

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

[Guest guest]

Hi (please tell us your name!)

You said:

<<I am sitting here crying - I can't believe I found a group that

is

dealing with what I have been going through the past several

months! >>

**Welcome to the group. There is a lot of information,

experience and support available here. Take some time to read

through the Files and the Archives--you will find much that is

useful.

<< I have been on most every SSRI in the last 10 years, along

with Depakote, Lithium, Nerontin, Topomax, Klonapin, Seroquel,

Risperdyl and stuff I don't even remember. I have been diagnosed

as

bipolar but I have thought for the last few years that it is the

antidepressants that I have been on that have thrown me into

my " manic " states.>>

***Check out my story in the Files (click here

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/files/,

click on Members' Stories, click on Kim's Story). You may find

some similarities. The good news is that I have made a

tremendous recovery--despite some quite-tolerable lingering

physical effects, I am better than before. Recovery is

definitely a possibility for everyone.

<<I am very distrustful of dr's and medication

right now and of course my family, dr and therapist say I am

paranoid and I need more drugs. I feel they really don't believe

me

when I say the drugs make me worse. Frustrating.>>

***Just don't worry about what they think. You know the truth.

It is frustrating, but all we can do is keep going and keep

trying to educate people. They listen when they're ready to

listen.

<<I started to go off my medication the end of May 2004. I went

cold turkey off of

Celexa - not realizing there was even a discontinuation syndrome.

It's been hell since. I'm like an addict - I stop taking it and

then start to feel horrible and start taking it again to get my

fix. The psychiatrist last month switched me to prozac which I

took

for a couple of weeks - and he said I could stop cold turkey

since

it had a long life and I would be fine. He wants me to go on

Lamictal - but it scares me to death. I have not been on the

seroquel for about 3 weeks now and have been off Prozac for a

week. >>

***I'm not clear on what you're taking, what you're reducing, and

what you've quit cold turkey. Please give us the sequence of

events since May, and describe your reduction process (if any)

with the drugs you've stopped taking.

<<I think I am doing ok - and then usually sometime during the

day I

will start to feel horrible (dizzy, off balance, extreme fatigue,

numbness and tingling in face, head fog, and head pressure)How

long

will this last?>>

***These are all classic symptoms of withdrawal from these drugs.

How long it lasts varies widely from person to person. If you

follow the instructions in the Basic Healing Protocol (in the

Files), you will provide your body with the support it needs to

overcome these problems sooner.

<< I am taking a multivitamin, Calcium, Vitamin C and

Fish Oil. >>

***This is a good start. Check out the recommendations in the

Basic Healing Protocol for a supplement regimen that has been

shown to work.

<< Sometimes I feel like I have MS or something awful like

that - anyone else feel like that?>>

***Another classic symptom. Lots of other people have

experienced this. It gets better with time and proper

nutritional support.

Keep reading the Files and the archives. There is a ton of good

information in there. Keep us posted on how you are doing.

Blessings,

Kim

(Co-moderator)

[Guest guest]

think maybe the dr's are right that I need the drugs- and then I

read posts here and they say it's the withdrawal that is causing the

problems. My psychiatrist tells me there is no way that I would be

having withdrawal symptoms this long.

: Your psychiatrist is nothing but a pill-pusher. And he doesn't know diddlysquat about these drugs. For him to say that is ridiculous. I'd be looking for a more informed doctor, cuz this guy's a bozo.

"Blind Reason"

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

[Guest guest]

OOPs! My name is ! Sorry about that!

All of this is so frustrating - I'm finding it hard to trust myself -

I think maybe the dr's are right that I need the drugs- and then I

read posts here and they say it's the withdrawal that is causing the

problems. My psychiatrist tells me there is no way that I would be

having withdrawal symptoms this long. I did find it interesting

though that he suggested switching me to Prozac and then decreasing

from there (I did not mention that at all to him).

Anyway Kim, here is what I have done:

-End of June I went off cold turkey from Celexa 40 mg, and Seroquel

100 mg

-After a week I felt horrible and went to my psychiatrist and he put

me on Lexapro - only got up to 10mg and had buzzing sensations all

over my body.

-Switched to 20 mg celexa - then went to 10 I think over just a

couple of days, then to 5 and then stopped - Now I know way, way to

fast

-I then played around with celexa for several months - from stopping

to going up to 10 and then trying to go back down

-I stopped Celexa and was given a perscription from my primary dr

for zoloft the end of November - took it for 3 days and thought I

was going crazy - cold turkey stopped that

-Went back to Celexa 5 mg

-Saw Psychiatrist and then he switched me to Prozac 10 mg. I was

taking 5 mg for a couple of weeks and he said I could just stop it.

Felt ok for a couple of days then felt horrible. I have taken 2.5

mg for the last three mornings - feeling better now but still very

dizzy, weak, tingling face, nauseated, anxious.

-I am completely off the seroquel

I also take synthroid for a thyroid condition, and 2 diuretics for

high blood pressure (I think diziness can be a problem with that)

Also during the past 10 years - I have been on almost all of the

SSRI's out there - was never told to taper down from the dr's - no

wonder I ended up in a psych hospital about 5 years ago!!!

Probably the dizziness, anxiety, and nausea are the worst for me.

There is a health food store not far from my work - so I will pop

over there at lunch time to get some magnesium.

Thanks for all of your help! From reading other posts - it sounds

like I am reducing my dosage to fast - I will see if I can get a

prescription for the liquid version of Prozac.

And this does go away right??? Thanks again!!

Hi (please tell us your name!)

>

> You said:

>

> <<I am sitting here crying - I can't believe I found a group that

> is

> dealing with what I have been going through the past several

> months! >>

>

>

> **Welcome to the group. There is a lot of information,

> experience and support available here. Take some time to read

> through the Files and the Archives--you will find much that is

> useful.

>

>

> << I have been on most every SSRI in the last 10 years, along

> with Depakote, Lithium, Nerontin, Topomax, Klonapin, Seroquel,

> Risperdyl and stuff I don't even remember. I have been diagnosed

> as

> bipolar but I have thought for the last few years that it is the

> antidepressants that I have been on that have thrown me into

> my " manic " states.>>

>

>

> ***Check out my story in the Files (click here

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/files/,

> click on Members' Stories, click on Kim's Story). You may find

> some similarities. The good news is that I have made a

> tremendous recovery--despite some quite-tolerable lingering

> physical effects, I am better than before. Recovery is

> definitely a possibility for everyone.

>

>

> <<I am very distrustful of dr's and medication

> right now and of course my family, dr and therapist say I am

> paranoid and I need more drugs. I feel they really don't believe

> me

> when I say the drugs make me worse. Frustrating.>>

>

>

> ***Just don't worry about what they think. You know the truth.

> It is frustrating, but all we can do is keep going and keep

> trying to educate people. They listen when they're ready to

> listen.

>

>

> <<I started to go off my medication the end of May 2004. I went

> cold turkey off of

> Celexa - not realizing there was even a discontinuation syndrome.

> It's been hell since. I'm like an addict - I stop taking it and

> then start to feel horrible and start taking it again to get my

> fix. The psychiatrist last month switched me to prozac which I

> took

> for a couple of weeks - and he said I could stop cold turkey

> since

> it had a long life and I would be fine. He wants me to go on

> Lamictal - but it scares me to death. I have not been on the

> seroquel for about 3 weeks now and have been off Prozac for a

> week. >>

>

>

> ***I'm not clear on what you're taking, what you're reducing, and

> what you've quit cold turkey. Please give us the sequence of

> events since May, and describe your reduction process (if any)

> with the drugs you've stopped taking.

>

>

> <<I think I am doing ok - and then usually sometime during the

> day I

> will start to feel horrible (dizzy, off balance, extreme fatigue,

> numbness and tingling in face, head fog, and head pressure)How

> long

> will this last?>>

>

>

> ***These are all classic symptoms of withdrawal from these drugs.

> How long it lasts varies widely from person to person. If you

> follow the instructions in the Basic Healing Protocol (in the

> Files), you will provide your body with the support it needs to

> overcome these problems sooner.

>

>

> << I am taking a multivitamin, Calcium, Vitamin C and

> Fish Oil. >>

>

>

> ***This is a good start. Check out the recommendations in the

> Basic Healing Protocol for a supplement regimen that has been

> shown to work.

>

>

> << Sometimes I feel like I have MS or something awful like

> that - anyone else feel like that?>>

>

>

> ***Another classic symptom. Lots of other people have

> experienced this. It gets better with time and proper

> nutritional support.

>

> Keep reading the Files and the archives. There is a ton of good

> information in there. Keep us posted on how you are doing.

>

> Blessings,

> Kim

> (Co-moderator)

[Guest guest]

Dl,

I really can not give any tips, as I really do not have much of a support team here. I really don't even have friends, pathetic, but let the truth be told. I am involved with La Leche in my area. That does make me feel better, but I have a lot of different issues then them. All of them have supportive families, that watch their children, families that spend time with them. The I hear stories, about how their mother, or best friends were there for the birth of their babies, and I get angry, upset so much in fact that I start crying at almost every meeting. I cry all the time, over the littlest things. I guess maybe I am just in hope of longing for support of my family, maybe have some friends that want to so things with me, and involve my children as well.

It just is a really hard time latley. I am sorry if I might be coming off to the group as totally off my rocker, but I think I am feeling like that.

I am currently taking natural prenatal vitamins, as like I said I am nursing, but I don't feel any different from them. Who knows what is wrong with me, all I know is I am really depressed, anxiety all the time, and I just have a hard time coping with everyday.

At night I go to bed anywhere from 9-10:30, I toss and turn all night, and I get up every morning feeling like I never slept. I am glad to meet you, and hope to talk more soon. How are you feeling today? Any changes from day to day? Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Dl,

I really can not give any tips, as I really do not have much of a support team here. I really don't even have friends, pathetic, but let the truth be told. I am involved with La Leche in my area. That does make me feel better, but I have a lot of different issues then them. All of them have supportive families, that watch their children, families that spend time with them. The I hear stories, about how their mother, or best friends were there for the birth of their babies, and I get angry, upset so much in fact that I start crying at almost every meeting. I cry all the time, over the littlest things. I guess maybe I am just in hope of longing for support of my family, maybe have some friends that want to so things with me, and involve my children as well.

It just is a really hard time latley. I am sorry if I might be coming off to the group as totally off my rocker, but I think I am feeling like that.

I am currently taking natural prenatal vitamins, as like I said I am nursing, but I don't feel any different from them. Who knows what is wrong with me, all I know is I am really depressed, anxiety all the time, and I just have a hard time coping with everyday.

At night I go to bed anywhere from 9-10:30, I toss and turn all night, and I get up every morning feeling like I never slept. I am glad to meet you, and hope to talk more soon. How are you feeling today? Any changes from day to day? Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Dl,

I really can not give any tips, as I really do not have much of a support team here. I really don't even have friends, pathetic, but let the truth be told. I am involved with La Leche in my area. That does make me feel better, but I have a lot of different issues then them. All of them have supportive families, that watch their children, families that spend time with them. The I hear stories, about how their mother, or best friends were there for the birth of their babies, and I get angry, upset so much in fact that I start crying at almost every meeting. I cry all the time, over the littlest things. I guess maybe I am just in hope of longing for support of my family, maybe have some friends that want to so things with me, and involve my children as well.

It just is a really hard time latley. I am sorry if I might be coming off to the group as totally off my rocker, but I think I am feeling like that.

I am currently taking natural prenatal vitamins, as like I said I am nursing, but I don't feel any different from them. Who knows what is wrong with me, all I know is I am really depressed, anxiety all the time, and I just have a hard time coping with everyday.

At night I go to bed anywhere from 9-10:30, I toss and turn all night, and I get up every morning feeling like I never slept. I am glad to meet you, and hope to talk more soon. How are you feeling today? Any changes from day to day? Hugs,

[Guest guest]

HI, a and welcome! MY name is Jill and I also struggle with depression

along with the FM and fatigue. Depression exacerbates the fatigue we have from

the pain.

I also have celiac disease so I have to watch what I eat. Some of the depression

is caused by poor nutrition due to the celiac disease. I need to take extra B

vitamins and A, D, C E - as well as minerals. I have problems absorbing the good

fatty acids.

Currently, I am doing a mostly high protein (a lot of people with muscle

problems need this) and lots of vegis and some fruits. I am currently not doing

much sugar, got off of all caffeinated beverages, alcohol, don't smoke and try

to deal with the sugar cravings.

When I eat 2-3 at least of my gluten-free meals daily, I do so much better. I

sometimes have problems with no appetite and nausea.

Another factor in the depression is movement outdoors in the sunlight a few

minutes a day. If you aren't already doing it- you may need to begin small like

to the end of the block and back or 1 minute out and 1 minute back. It' ok to

just go out and see the sky and nature without a specific goal.

I make a goal distance and sometimes, like this morning surprised myself at how

far I can go. I'm fat, but I can walk worlds better than when I was younger, and

I find that my sleep is better even if I don't shop or purchase anything at the

end of my walk, I get a beta-endorphin lift that really helps the depression.

Insomnia gets me really messed up so the walking really helps that and I am

lately sleeping soundly (as in through the night) for about 7-9 hours. I found

that if I get up the same time every day then my body begins to set it's clock

to accommodate me.

Getting these activities of daily living in place helps so much.

I researched (bought books or borrowed from the library) about FM and CFS then

prayed about what information was in it to know if it applied directly to me at

this time in to treat this disorder.

Good luck on this journey. You will find some great information here given with

warmth and compassion.

Jill in Tx

>

> Hi all! I am new to the group. My name is a. I was diagnosed about 2 1/2

yrs ago. I was fortunate enough to have a doctor who just kept digging until he

figured out what was wrong with me! Unfortunately I have moved and have yet to

find a doctor who believes FM is real!

> Anyway, I have a myriad of symptoms like most of you, I'm sure, and at times

am miserable. Right now I am fighting severe depression. It was anxiety for

awhile. I can deal with my pain mostly, but the depression just kills me. I

can't stand it. I think I need to talk to others who are going through the same

things as me, soooooo here I am.

>