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Hi Pam Where are you?When I was first diagnosed with bronchi in my early 20's I was told then daily clearance is the key . I didn't really listen and lost an upper lobe of my  lung at 28.  It really is true, daily clearance and nebuliser  ( albuterol can deplete your potassium  so I eat bananas. My weekly chest percussion was limited to 90 per lifetime ???? I was often too tired to do it myself . My insurance covered( rented ) it for a year and I had tonrecord  the hours. Now its mine and travelswith me as carry on luggage to the UK and Europe. Umcka is derived from an african geranium , shortens colds and loosens phlegm YEAH , no side effects , comes in all formats , google it , its distributed by nature's way.I also take turmeric to reduce inflammation.Hope this helpsSubject: trying to support a friend)To: bronchiectasis Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 AM Hi,I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just

been diagnosed with it.  I have referred her to this group and I think she has joined.  I have been lurking around reading some of the posts.  I am sad that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect for your tenacity through it all.  I can see that out of necessity you have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several questions. We live in a rural area, the nearest "big city" is almost an hour away.  From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections.  I realize that having a good pulmonary Dr.is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area do about not having having a  pulmonary Dr. nearby?  When you are sick and in need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a Dr.. visit?  (especially in winter weather)  Do most health

insurances cover the vest and how effective is it?  I am interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways clear.  Is it a supplement?  Is it in liquid or capsules?  How often should it be taken?  Are there side affects from taking it?  Thanks in advance for your input.KR

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Hi, , do you take turmeric as a tea or in other forms? Thanks for the info.

To: bronchiectasis From: draigferch@...Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:00:11 -0700Subject: Re: trying to support a friend)

Hi Pam Where are you?

When I was first diagnosed with bronchi in my early 20's I was told then daily clearance is the key . I didn't really listen and lost an upper lobe of my lung at 28. It really is true, daily clearance and nebuliser ( albuterol can deplete your potassium so I eat bananas.

My weekly chest percussion was limited to 90 per lifetime ???? I was often too tired to do it myself . My insurance covered( rented ) it for a year and I had tonrecord the hours. Now its mine and travelswith me as carry on luggage to the UK and Europe. Umcka is derived from an african geranium , shortens colds and loosens phlegm YEAH , no side effects , comes in all formats , google it , its distributed by nature's way.I also take turmeric to reduce inflammation.Hope this helps

Subject: trying to support a friend)To: bronchiectasis Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 AM

Hi,

I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just been diagnosed with it. I have referred her to this group and I think she has joined. I have been lurking around reading some of the posts. I am sad that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect for your tenacity through it all. I can see that out of necessity you have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several questions.

We live in a rural area, the nearest "big city" is almost an hour away. From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections. I realize that having a good pulmonary Dr.

is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area do about not having having a pulmonary Dr. nearby? When you are sick and in need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a Dr.. visit? (especially in winter weather)

Do most health insurances cover the vest and how effective is it? I am interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways clear. Is it a supplement? Is it in liquid or capsules? How often should it be taken? Are there side affects from taking it?

Thanks in advance for your input.

KR

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I use turmeric in cooking , salad dressings as a capsule and in a good sinus

vindaloo clearing curry. I dare any bug to live in that !!!.

re The Vest I don't know how advanced your friends bronchiectasis is but I was

prescribed chest percussion from a physiotherapist from the start and then

learned to do it myself. I'm not sure about the cost of the vest , I think about

$20,000. Contact Hill Rom they are REALLY helpful and will work with you.

Before I had The Vest I've also used a $100 massage belt ( with heat) strapped

around my upper and lower thorax and tipped over about 4-6 pillows ( $19,900

cheaper ! )

This group is a mine of collective information , and a great resource for you

and your friend.

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diagnosed with it. I have referred her to this group and I think she has

joined. I have been lurking around reading some of the posts. I am sad that

each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect

for your tenacity through it all. I can see that out of necessity you have

become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several

questions.

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what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems

arise, especially bronchial infections. I realize that having a good pulmonary

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having having a pulmonary Dr. nearby? When you are sick and in need of your

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> Do most health insurances cover the vest and how effective is it? I am

interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways

clear. Is it a supplement? Is it in liquid or capsules? How often should it

be taken? Are there side affects from taking it?

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One more question, . What is a "good sinus vindaloo clearing curry". Thanks once more.

To: bronchiectasis From: draigferch@...Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:23:25 +0000Subject: Re: trying to support a friend)

I use turmeric in cooking , salad dressings as a capsule and in a good sinus vindaloo clearing curry. I dare any bug to live in that !!!.re The Vest I don't know how advanced your friends bronchiectasis is but I was prescribed chest percussion from a physiotherapist from the start and then learned to do it myself. I'm not sure about the cost of the vest , I think about $20,000. Contact Hill Rom they are REALLY helpful and will work with you. Before I had The Vest I've also used a $100 massage belt ( with heat) strapped around my upper and lower thorax and tipped over about 4-6 pillows ( $19,900 cheaper ! ) This group is a mine of collective information , and a great resource for you and your friend.Hope that helps> > > > Subject: trying to support a friend)> To: bronchiectasis > Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just been diagnosed with it. I have referred her to this group and I think she has joined. I have been lurking around reading some of the posts. I am sad that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect for your tenacity through it all. I can see that out of necessity you have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several questions. > We live in a rural area, the nearest "big city" is almost an hour away. From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections. I realize that having a good pulmonary Dr.> is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area do about not having having a pulmonary Dr. nearby? When you are sick and in need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a Dr.. visit? (especially in winter weather) > Do most health insurances cover the vest and how effective is it? I am interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways clear. Is it a supplement? Is it in liquid or capsules? How often should it be taken? Are there side affects from taking it? > Thanks in advance for your input.> > > KR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009>

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Vindaloo is  the description of a hotter( spicy) type of curry. Check recipes for indian food.Subject: RE: Re: trying to support a friend)To: bronchiectasis Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 2:14 PM

One more question, .  What is a "good sinus vindaloo clearing curry".  Thanks once more. 

To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. comFrom: draigferchyahoo (DOT) comDate: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:23:25 +0000Subject: Re: trying to support a friend)

I use turmeric in cooking , salad dressings as a capsule and in a good sinus vindaloo clearing curry. I dare any bug to live in that !!!.re The Vest I don't know how advanced your friends bronchiectasis is but I was prescribed chest percussion from a physiotherapist from the start and then learned to do it myself. I'm not sure about the cost of the vest , I think about $20,000. Contact Hill Rom they are REALLY helpful and will work with you. Before I had The Vest I've also used a $100 massage belt ( with heat) strapped around my upper and lower thorax and tipped over about 4-6 pillows ( $19,900 cheaper ! ) This group is a mine of collective information , and a great resource for you and your friend.Hope that helps> > > From: Pam Star <starpam49@. ..>> Subject: trying to support a friend)> To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just been diagnosed

with it. I have referred her to this group and I think she has joined. I have been lurking around reading some of the posts. I am sad that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect for your tenacity through it all. I can see that out of necessity you have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several questions. > We live in a rural area, the nearest "big city" is almost an hour away. From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections. I realize that having a good pulmonary Dr.> is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area do about not having having a pulmonary Dr. nearby? When you are sick and in need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a Dr.. visit? (especially in winter weather) > Do most health insurances cover the vest and how effective is it? I am

interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways clear. Is it a supplement? Is it in liquid or capsules? How often should it be taken? Are there side affects from taking it? > Thanks in advance for your input.> > > KR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. > http://windowslive. com/Tutorial/ Hotmail/Storage? ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ HM_Tutorial_ Storage_062009>

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thanks, I never heard of it before, I'll look it up

To: bronchiectasis From: draigferch@...Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:48:04 -0700Subject: RE: Re: trying to support a friend)

Vindaloo is the description of a hotter( spicy) type of curry. Check recipes for indian food.

From: Ladutko <eladutko1hotmail>Subject: RE: Re: trying to support a friend)To: bronchiectasis Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 2:14 PM

One more question, . What is a "good sinus vindaloo clearing curry". Thanks once more.

To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. comFrom: draigferchyahoo (DOT) comDate: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:23:25 +0000Subject: Re: trying to support a friend)

I use turmeric in cooking , salad dressings as a capsule and in a good sinus vindaloo clearing curry. I dare any bug to live in that !!!.re The Vest I don't know how advanced your friends bronchiectasis is but I was prescribed chest percussion from a physiotherapist from the start and then learned to do it myself. I'm not sure about the cost of the vest , I think about $20,000. Contact Hill Rom they are REALLY helpful and will work with you. Before I had The Vest I've also used a $100 massage belt ( with heat) strapped around my upper and lower thorax and tipped over about 4-6 pillows ( $19,900 cheaper ! ) This group is a mine of collective information , and a great resource for you and your friend.Hope that helps> > > From: Pam Star <starpam49@. ..>> Subject: trying to support a friend)> To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just been diagnosed with it. I have referred her to this group and I think she has joined. I have been lurking around reading some of the posts. I am sad that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect for your tenacity through it all. I can see that out of necessity you have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several questions. > We live in a rural area, the nearest "big city" is almost an hour away. From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections. I realize that having a good pulmonary Dr.> is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area do about not having having a pulmonary Dr. nearby? When you are sick and in need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a Dr.. visit? (especially in winter weather) > Do most health insurances cover the vest and how effective is it? I am interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways clear. Is it a supplement? Is it in liquid or capsules? How often should it be taken? Are there side affects from taking it? > Thanks in advance for your input.> > > KR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. > http://windowslive. com/Tutorial/ Hotmail/Storage? ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ HM_Tutorial_ Storage_062009>

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If you're not used to curry , best to start with a milder curry, Do you have a local Indian restaurant ? 

From: Ladutko <eladutko1hotmail (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: trying to support a friend)To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 2:14 PM

One more question, .  What is a "good sinus vindaloo clearing curry".  Thanks once more. 

To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. comFrom: draigferchyahoo (DOT) comDate: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:23:25 +0000Subject: Re: trying to support a friend)

I use turmeric in cooking , salad dressings as a capsule and in a good sinus vindaloo clearing curry. I dare any bug to live in that !!!.re The Vest I don't know how advanced your friends bronchiectasis is but I was prescribed chest percussion from a physiotherapist from the start and then learned to do it myself. I'm not sure about the cost of the vest , I think about $20,000. Contact Hill Rom they are REALLY helpful and will work with you. Before I had The Vest I've also used a $100 massage belt ( with heat) strapped around my upper and lower thorax and tipped over about 4-6 pillows ( $19,900 cheaper ! ) This group is a mine of collective information , and a great resource for you and your friend.Hope that helps> > > From: Pam Star <starpam49@. ..>> Subject: trying to support a friend)> To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just been diagnosed with it. I have referred her to this group and I think she has joined. I have

been lurking around reading some of the posts. I am sad that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect for your tenacity through it all. I can see that out of necessity you have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several questions. > We live in a rural area, the nearest "big city" is almost an hour away. From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections. I realize that having a good pulmonary Dr.> is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area do about not having having a pulmonary Dr. nearby? When you are sick and in need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a Dr.. visit? (especially in winter weather) > Do most health insurances cover the vest and how effective is it? I am interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways

clear. Is it a supplement? Is it in liquid or capsules? How often should it be taken? Are there side affects from taking it? > Thanks in advance for your input.> > > KR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. > http://windowslive. com/Tutorial/ Hotmail/Storage? ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ HM_Tutorial_ Storage_062009>

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good idea

To: bronchiectasis From: draigferch@...Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:09:54 -0700Subject: RE: Re: trying to support a friend)

If you're not used to curry , best to start with a milder curry, Do you have a local Indian restaurant ?

From: Ladutko <eladutko1hotmail (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: trying to support a friend)To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 2:14 PM

One more question, . What is a "good sinus vindaloo clearing curry". Thanks once more.

To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. comFrom: draigferchyahoo (DOT) comDate: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:23:25 +0000Subject: Re: trying to support a friend)

I use turmeric in cooking , salad dressings as a capsule and in a good sinus vindaloo clearing curry. I dare any bug to live in that !!!.re The Vest I don't know how advanced your friends bronchiectasis is but I was prescribed chest percussion from a physiotherapist from the start and then learned to do it myself. I'm not sure about the cost of the vest , I think about $20,000. Contact Hill Rom they are REALLY helpful and will work with you. Before I had The Vest I've also used a $100 massage belt ( with heat) strapped around my upper and lower thorax and tipped over about 4-6 pillows ( $19,900 cheaper ! ) This group is a mine of collective information , and a great resource for you and your friend.Hope that helps> > > From: Pam Star <starpam49@. ..>> Subject: trying to support a friend)> To: bronchiectasis@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just been diagnosed with it. I have referred her to this group and I think she has joined. I have been lurking around reading some of the posts. I am sad that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and respect for your tenacity through it all. I can see that out of necessity you have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several questions. > We live in a rural area, the nearest "big city" is almost an hour away. From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections. I realize that having a good pulmonary Dr.> is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area do about not having having a pulmonary Dr. nearby? When you are sick and in need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a Dr.. visit? (especially in winter weather) > Do most health insurances cover the vest and how effective is it? I am interested in learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways clear. Is it a supplement? Is it in liquid or capsules? How often should it be taken? Are there side affects from taking it? > Thanks in advance for your input.> > > KR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. > http://windowslive. com/Tutorial/ Hotmail/Storage? ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ HM_Tutorial_ Storage_062009>

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thanks for the replies. We are in northern MI, (the lower peninsula) our

nearest city where there is a variety of pulmonologist to chose from is Traverse

City. It is about 60 miles away. Grand Rapids MI is a large metropolitan area,

many to chose from there, but is is 90 miles away our concern is that when she

is ill she will need to see a Dr. right away, so she should have one near by.

(Closer than 60 or 90 miles) Does anyone else live in a rural area? If so how

do you deal with your broncho without a pulmonologist in the immediate area?

My friend needs to find a good Dr. that is familiar with broncho, so there is a

plan of action in place to deal with this. Should clearing be done daily,weekly

or what? Thanks for your replies.

Pam.

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> Hi,I don't have bronchiectasis, but I have a close friend who has just

> been diagnosed with it.  I have referred her to this group and I think she

has joined.  I have been lurking around reading some of the posts.  I am sad

that each of you have to endure this disease, but have great admiration and

respect for your tenacity through it all.  I can see that out of necessity you

have become your own advocate for the best lung health possible. I have several

questions. We live in a rural area, the nearest " big city " is almost an hour

away.  From what I have read, it is important to get to a good Dr. ASAP when

lung problems arise, especially bronchial infections.  I realize that having a

good pulmonary Dr.is essential, what do others who don't live in an urban area

do about not having having a  pulmonary Dr. nearby?  When you are sick and in

need of your Dr.'s care and expertise, who can drive an hour each way to make a

Dr.. visit?  (especially in winter weather)  Do most health

> insurances cover the vest and how effective is it?  I am interested in

learning more about how Umcka is used in keeping the airways clear.  Is it a

supplement?  Is it in liquid or capsules?  How often should it be taken?  Are

there side affects from taking it?  Thanks in advance for your input.

> KR

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