Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 where do I find diabetic recipes ,all I see is how many members. I need recipes. thank you linda hieserman lindahsrmn@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 I eat carbs, just not many of them, and I get them from vegetables as my main source. And I swim a mile every other day and have no problems with lows. As a matter of fact I am planning to swim across one of the Finger Lakes this summer. I have more energy with the lowered Bgs that are a result of my 2 year use of the Atkins program than I have had in years! My kids can barely keep up! When I ate grains (and I was a whole grain organic kinda gal) all I wanted to do was sleep! when I first began testing I noticed that the whole grains got my Bg's up and kept them up longer. Of course by the time I was diagnosed my disease was fairly well progressed... S > >>From the atkins diet it seems you eliminate all carbs is this correct. > >How do you excersice, the body needs these good carbohydrates to be healthy >during exercise. Also many vitamins seem to be missing from the diet thru >lack off some foods?? > >The optimum diet for people with diabetes is to eat *Plenty* of wholegrain, >cereals, breads, vegetables and *Fruits* and adjusting insulin >accordingly... > >Anne >>From OZ > >Having Mail probs so i thought I would send this again in case it didnt get >thru >Also as a after thought for those that the atkins diet has helped drop bgs >etc, this may be the case but it doesnt say that your body is getting All >the nutrients it needs?! >Has the atkins diet been Scientificaly tested? > > > > > > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º " Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open. " - Dewar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 Re: Atkins diet I eat carbs, just not many of them, and I get them from vegetables as my main source. And I swim a mile every other day and have no problems with lows. As a matter of fact I am planning to swim across one of the Finger Lakes this summer. I have more energy with the lowered Bgs that are a result of my 2 year use of the Atkins program than I have had in years! My kids can barely keep up! When I ate grains (and I was a whole grain organic kinda gal) all I wanted to do was sleep! when I first began testing I noticed that the whole grains got my Bg's up and kept them up longer. Of course by the time I was diagnosed my disease was fairly well progressed... S > the problem wouldnt be from the grain as they have been scientifically tested to be beneficial to diabetics, the problem would be with you not adjusting your insulin properly, causing high bgs which would of course make you feel tired. The body as I said before needs a vast range of foods, you may think you are better off but at the end of the day with out this *range* of foods your body is not, moderation of course needs to be applied. Protein is a big part of your diet is this correct? it is proven that protein overworks the kidney!! Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 >the problem wouldnt be from the grain as they have been scientifically >tested to be beneficial to diabetics, the problem would be with you not >adjusting your insulin properly, causing high bgs which would of course make >you feel tired And what do you do if you aren't on insulin? Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 Re: Atkins diet > > > >the problem wouldnt be from the grain as they have been scientifically > >tested to be beneficial to diabetics, the problem would be with you not > >adjusting your insulin properly, causing high bgs which would of course > make > >you feel tired > > > And what do you do if you aren't on insulin? > > Debbie > > Not my area of expertise:) I guess you would have a healthy all round diet eliminating fast acting sugars, fats, too much protein and eat carbs, in moderation for example one piece of wholegrain bread with a meal, Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 that must be the difference...I am not on insulin...I take Glucophage. I think Diabetes is a whole different ball game when you are on insulin...and there is evidence to the contrary...I get regular bloodwork and renal function is fine. I think people think Atkins is meat alone...not so...I eat lots of salads and fresh vegetables. And more and more doctors are recommending lo-carb...you would be amazed at the results of my bloodwork. I sure was! And I do eat a small amount of grains, like Rye crackers. S >the problem wouldnt be from the grain as they have been scientifically >tested to be beneficial to diabetics, the problem would be with you not >adjusting your insulin properly, causing high bgs which would of course make >you feel tired. The body as I said before needs a vast range of foods, you >may think you are better off but at the end of the day with out this *range* >of foods your body is not, moderation of course needs to be applied. >Protein is a big part of your diet is this correct? it is proven that >protein overworks the kidney!! > >Anne > > > > > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º " Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open. " - Dewar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Hi Sorry I'm so late in my reply to this, but I just got back from a 2 week vacation in Arizona!! It was GREAT! > >>From the atkins diet it seems you eliminate all carbs is this correct. No this isn't correct. On Atkins, for the first 2 weeks you reduce your carbs to 20 grams a day. the purpose of this is to purge your body of the effects of the heavy carb use and get you past the withdrawel stage. After that, you increase your carbs slowly until you reach YOUR maximum level. This of course will depend on what your aim is, and as a diabetic, will depend on what you see on your meter. > >How do you excersice, the body needs these good carbohydrates to be healthy >during exercise. Also many vitamins seem to be missing from the diet thru >lack off some foods?? We get our carbs from vegetables rather than processed foods. Even on induction we are to have 3 cups of salad a day OR 2 cups of salad and a cup of cooked veggies. After the withdrawel period (usually lasts about 4 days) most people find themselves brimming with energy We do take supplements. I take a good multivitamin plus vitamin c, a fish oil capsule (not because of Atkins specifically), and calcium (because I'm at an age where osteoporosis has to be a consideration). Meenie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 The problem for the type II diabetic is that their body isn't using the insulin they create. When high carbohydrate levels are consumed, the bg rises. In response the insulin level rises. But since our bodies can't use the insulin to correct the bg, it uses it tostore fat. Also, excess insulin causes intense hunger, so even though we may have just eaten a 10 course meal, we will still feel hungry and continue to eat. Type II and Type I diabetes are very different. Type II's who take insulin have different problems from Type I's who take insulin. This all needs to be taken into consideration when recommending measures of control. Meenie > > > >the problem wouldnt be from the grain as they have been scientifically > >tested to be beneficial to diabetics, the problem would be with you not > >adjusting your insulin properly, causing high bgs which would of course > make > >you feel tired > > > And what do you do if you aren't on insulin? > > Debbie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Glad you enjoyed our lovely state and the weather. You made it in just after the rain (I hope). We`ve been a bit cool in southern AZ. but nothin` like what the northerners are used to this time of year. I haven`t gotten in on the Atkins discussion yet. Meenie provided an excellent thumbnail of the program. The only thing I question is the possiblity, that if someone goes obsessive and dosen`t follow the guideline strictly, and as several I`ve known, are so happy at the initial loss they are slow to add the carbs back in, or pull the carbs too low, the obvious result may be the rampant production of ketones. For a healthy person this may not pose that serious a problem, but for those with insulin or glucose production issues it may be a concern. The Atkins diet or any carb reduction or elimination diet must be followed closely and your doctor should be advised before it`s undertaken, especially if a person is on meds. My opinion for what it`s worth...........Knowledge is power.............Jack Wow! Diagram that 6th sentance...........Dare ya! > Hi > Sorry I'm so late in my reply to this, but I just got back from a 2 week > vacation in Arizona!! It was GREAT! > > > > >>From the atkins diet it seems you eliminate all carbs is this correct. > > No this isn't correct. On Atkins, for the first 2 weeks you reduce your > carbs to 20 grams a day. the purpose of this is to purge your body of the > effects of the heavy carb use and get you past the withdrawel stage. > After that, you increase your carbs slowly until you reach YOUR maximum > level. This of course will depend on what your aim is, and as a diabetic, > will depend on what you see on your meter. > > > >How do you excersice, the body needs these good carbohydrates to be healthy > >during exercise. Also many vitamins seem to be missing from the diet thru > >lack off some foods?? > > We get our carbs from vegetables rather than processed foods. Even on > induction we are to have 3 cups of salad a day OR 2 cups of salad and a cup > of cooked veggies. After the withdrawel period (usually lasts about 4 days) > most people find themselves brimming with energy > We do take supplements. I take a good multivitamin plus vitamin c, a fish > oil capsule (not because of Atkins specifically), and calcium (because I'm > at an age where osteoporosis has to be a consideration). > Meenie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 At 4:30 AM +0000 11/29/00, Jack wrote: >Glad you enjoyed our lovely state and the weather. You made it in just >after the rain (I hope). We`ve been a bit cool in southern AZ. Jack, Where are you located? -- VGS geoff beneze, Tempe, AZ geoffb@... ******************************************************** *BEAST Enterprises - http://www.beast-enterprises.com * * Gunsmithing, Target stands, Rifle Gongs * * Ching Ring Scout Rifle Scope mount * * NRA Life Member - IDPA A00981 AZ * ******************************************************** And now some food for the Carnivore: plan for anthrax, nitroglycerin, defense force structure, assassinate, presidential, CIA, security, pulse, cell, ammo, ATF, ANFO, militia, freedom, liberty, God, Al Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 Geoff, We hold up in the Old Pueblo, where the Catalinas and the Rincons meet and where Fish and Game pulled a brown Bear out of a palm tree in town, yesterday. They caught one swimming in residential pool earlier this year, during the heat wave (June thru Oct.). I guess the climber was just scouting, no weapon found. Probably should say something about Diabetes to make this official. I liked the buddy list idea, just haven`t done anything about it yet..........Jack > >Glad you enjoyed our lovely state and the weather. You made it in just > >after the rain (I hope). We`ve been a bit cool in southern AZ. > > Jack, > Where are you located? > -- > > VGS > geoff beneze, Tempe, AZ > geoffb@b... > ******************************************************** > *BEAST Enterprises - http://www.beast-enterprises.com * > * Gunsmithing, Target stands, Rifle Gongs * > * Ching Ring Scout Rifle Scope mount * > * NRA Life Member - IDPA A00981 AZ * > ******************************************************** > And now some food for the Carnivore: plan for anthrax, nitroglycerin, > defense force structure, assassinate, presidential, CIA, security, > pulse, cell, ammo, ATF, ANFO, militia, freedom, liberty, God, Al Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 At 2:35 AM +0000 12/1/00, Jack wrote: >Geoff, >We hold up in the Old Pueblo, where the Catalinas and the Rincons >meet and where Fish and Game pulled a brown Bear out of a palm tree >in town, yesterday. They caught one swimming in residential pool >earlier this year, during the heat wave (June thru Oct.). I guess >the climber was just scouting, no weapon found. Probably should say >something about Diabetes to make this official. I liked the buddy list >idea, just haven`t done anything about it yet..........Jack Out on the east side.... I always have to ask how south is " southern. " While we've lived up here for the last 10 years, I'm still looking for a way to get back south. I lived on the west side for 10 or so years, and grew up in Sierra Vista (and go back whenever possible.) Right now I want to move to Tombstone, small like SV used to be and it'd be a GREAT place for a " mail order " gunsmithing business (mine!) We use the buddy list to keep most of my shooting friends in contact, as well as a substantial part of our family. It works out well for us. -- VGS geoff beneze, Tempe, AZ geoffb@... ******************************************************** *BEAST Enterprises - http://www.beast-enterprises.com * * Gunsmithing, Target stands, Rifle Gongs * * Ching Ring Scout Rifle Scope mount * * NRA Life Member - IDPA A00981 AZ * ******************************************************** And now some food for the Carnivore: plan for anthrax, nitroglycerin, defense force structure, assassinate, presidential, CIA, security, pulse, cell, ammo, ATF, ANFO, militia, freedom, liberty, God, Al Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 We didn't see a single drop of rain the entire time we were out there. We went from Tucson (where they told us it was unseasonably cool - around 65 degrees during the warmest part of the day, hehe) to Globe, to Holbrook, to (where we went off-roading in about a foot of snow!!), to Page, to Flagstaff, to Phoenix. Globe thru Flagstaff were very cold - like 21 degrees in the early morning up to the low 40's during the day. Phoenix was warmer - upper 40's to low 50's in the morning and upper 60's during the day The scenery was amazing - some areas looked like scenes from the moon (the movie Mars Attacks was filmed in AZ) and other areas were a Ponderosa pine forest. Then there were the deserts with the Saguara cacti as far as the eye can see! Amazing Meenie > At 4:30 AM +0000 11/29/00, Jack wrote: > >Glad you enjoyed our lovely state and the weather. You made it in just > >after the rain (I hope). We`ve been a bit cool in southern AZ. > > Jack, > Where are you located? > -- > > VGS > geoff beneze, Tempe, AZ > geoffb@... > ******************************************************** > *BEAST Enterprises - http://www.beast-enterprises.com * > * Gunsmithing, Target stands, Rifle Gongs * > * Ching Ring Scout Rifle Scope mount * > * NRA Life Member - IDPA A00981 AZ * > ******************************************************** > And now some food for the Carnivore: plan for anthrax, nitroglycerin, > defense force structure, assassinate, presidential, CIA, security, > pulse, cell, ammo, ATF, ANFO, militia, freedom, liberty, God, Al Gore. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Not only can you lose weight on Atkins, you can keep your bg's in normal ranges. Go to www.atkinscenter.com and check it out for yourself. I eat cheese every day. Love those omelets for breakfast Meenie > The reason I asked about cheese was because the dietitian said cheese was to be had only once every two weeks. > I also have to lose weight, but do so love my cheese. > Can I lose weight on this Atkins diet? > Janet > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 > > Not only can you lose weight on Atkins, you can keep your bg's in normal > ranges. Go to www.atkinscenter.com and check it out for yourself. I eat > cheese every day. Love those omelets for breakfast Meenie... I lost a lot of weight on the atkins diet... but the rigors of the police academy almost sent me into ketoacidosis. Be careful..... you don't want to do too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 > >I lost a lot of weight on the atkins diet... but the rigors of the >police academy almost sent me into ketoacidosis. Be careful..... you >don't want to do too much. > > , At the moment, I'm researching for a low to extremely low carb diet to work with. I've been looking at the Neanderthal based diets, and have read the " Carb Addict's " diet book (which appears to be an Atkin's clone), and am now reading through the Atkins. When you had problems, were you using any of the supplements advocated by AT? Any of the others " doing " the AT diet using the supplements? If so, how much, which ones, etc. I've found that when we go to our ranch, I have to be extremely careful in watching my BG's and making sure I eat more than I do, or DRASTICALLY reducing (or eliminating) my insulin doses. Sunlight, heat and working even " normal " ranch work causes (oddly enough) my BG's to drop dramatically. I would expect the same type of reaction with the AT diet, but unlike going low, I don't (yet) know how to handle the ketoacidosis or any of the other potential effects. -- VGS geoff beneze, Tempe, AZ geoffb@... ******************************************************** *BEAST Enterprises - http://www.beast-enterprises.com * * Gunsmithing, Target stands, Rifle Gongs * * Ching Ring Scout Rifle Scope mount * * NRA Life Member - IDPA A00981 AZ * ******************************************************** And now some food for the Carnivore: plan for anthrax, nitroglycerin, defense force structure, CIA, security, pulse, cell, ammo, ATF, ANFO, militia, freedom, liberty, God, uranium, plutonium, D Lysergic Acid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 >From: miss_secretariat@... >with respect to atkin's i have some problems with it. first you are >totally ignoring one food group and practically a second. the first >is the bread group. and the second is fruit. Exactly. I agree with you. A good diet is one that is balanced and the atkins diet sounds unhealthy to me. Kim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 > Exactly. I agree with you. A good diet is one that is balanced and the > atkins diet sounds unhealthy to me. > > Kim It *sounded* that way to me also, until I did a lot of research. Meenie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 miss_secretariat@... wrote: > i don't mean to be disrespectful of anyone's feelings here but there > is something all of us need to think about. > > whatever diet you are on--please talk to your doctor about it. find > out if there are health issues you need to address. > > with respect to atkin's i have some problems with it. first you are > totally ignoring one food group and practically a second. the first > is the bread group. and the second is fruit. Not necessarily. Nothing is totally ignored. The diet isn't no carb. It's low carb. > you are setting yourself up for a fall at some point by wiping out > food groups--unless everyone you know knows you are on atkins and > will follow through in case of emergency--and you are unable to tell > anyone your diet. also if you ever fall off the wagon--there goes > your diet. > > and really something to think about here. meenie i know you will > disagree but i feel it must be said nonetheless. whatever amount of > calories you are eating a day (1000-1500-2000)when a substantial > amount of that is fat--think of what its doing to your arteries. i > don't care what atkin's claims--cause i asked a friend of mine who > works as a recovery nurse (surgurical)in a major hospital. Have your friend check with my endo.. My triglicerides went from 398 in Feb. 2000 to 185 currently. Total cholesterol from high 200s to 188. Will admit that my ratio is the top end of normal at 4.5 but hey, can't have everything. I've had echo cardiogram, treadmill, the whole banana and have a clean bill of health. Clean enough that I was able to get reinstated my FAA medical certificate. No cardiovascular problems. Went from an A1c of 7.7 in Feb. 2000 to a 5.5 currently. > my friend has a terrible time making sure patients are properly > regulated. what she told me the other night is stay with what you > are doing--the weight is coming off, the bgs are under control. > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If what you're doing works for you, don't change. The Atkins works for me. I have regular lipid studies, renal panel, BG levels. (Regular means every three months). My wife is a Reg. Nurse so there was some static involved until it was proven that the diet isn't harming me. She is OK with it as long as I continue to be monitored. I check my bg 4 times a day. Exercise 3 times daily. Weigh in at the diabetes wellness center every Monday. BTW, I'm a 67 year old slightly overweight male. > > atkin's it is true is low to no carb--so yes you do have better bgs > control. > > but heart disease (do i need to remind anyone of what fat does to > arteries)and diabetes goes hand in hand. > > i know for myself that weight watchers is working. eventhough my bg > readings are somewhat scattered all over the place my a1c tests come > back in the non-diabetic range (the last one in dec was 4.4). and > according to my endocrinologist this is the test to determine if you > need meds or not--yes daily (and more than once day readings)readings > are important--but from what i garnered my a1c test is the all- > important one. > nonetheless this is my opinion. > The above is in no manner meant to be an argument. Just my experience. -- Bob Litty rdlitty@... littyrd@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Very helpful http://www.simplytortoise.co.uk/ ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Saturday, 26 September, 2009 16:27:50 Subject: Re: Atkins diet if you have started the Atkins you may get withdrawel symptoms which will make you feel dreadful. To combat this i take two paracetamol and go to bed. It only lasts up to three days max and after that you should feel amazing. Now in regards to kidneys, liver and all that dr Atkins says its not true. Others have told me this but since i have never had any problems with my liver of kidneys whilst on the diet i am goig to say i think it is not true. To learn more about low carb diets and health you may want to look up the ketogenic diet and epilepsy. This diet is a low carb diet for children with epilepsy, it is more strict than atkins but i have heard the children on it do really well the other thig Candida, if you have that the low carb diet will help a lot, as will coconut oil which you can have lots of when you are on the atkins diet I sometimes take Duiflucan to kill of the candida but it has a similar afftect to the low carb diet. It makes you feel a lot worse before you feel better. You get die off. The candida dies and then starts to rot i the intestines which causes toxins. Fortunately after a few days this is gone but if you are killing off candida and startig a low carb diet then you need to give yourself three days and expect to feel worse before you feel better Hope this is helpful Joanne ____________ _________ _________ __ From: simplytortoise1 <simplytortoise@ rocketmail. com> To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, 26 September, 2009 13:03:12 Subject: Atkins diet I have started the Atkins diet today, i like to prepare my mind first for a few days, then i know why i am on it and less likely to go off it in a week or two. I am hoping i will benefit from it, i did several years ago when i last went on it and felt great. My only question is when i stopped it before was because i was told there is less water in proteins compared to carbohydrates and any weight loss is mostly because of less water retention as the Atkins dehydrates the body and in doing so makes the kidneys/liver work harder, which puts a strain on them. If this is true (i dont know) then if its our glands that are blocked with FM which makes the pressure points hurt then surely less water means less flushing of the glands leaving more toxins behind to make us feel worse? Or am i barking up the wrong set of woods lol? I have also been looking into the candida theory and i have a white furry tongue (as a good way of checking for candida) oil swishing removed my white tongue yesterday completely but i felt really bad last night and this morning but getting better now. I just thought removing a load of toxins yesterday would relieve me of some of the candida symptoms until i deplete my body of sugars on the Atkins diet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I hope you have good results with the Atkins. It is actually quite healthy especially for those of us who need to create a bodily environment that helps eliminate candida and also for people who are eliminating gluten and sugar After the first 2 weeks you begin adding more variety of vegetables and then later on fruits until you have lost the weight you need to lose and get to your perfect carb count for your body. Mine is quite low - about 40 gms of carb in order to maintain weight, so I have to stay around 20 - 25 gms to lose anything at all. I think that when fat is burned as it is done on the Atkins chemically the fat becomes water and carbon ash which is then eliminated by the kidneys and GI tract etc. Due to the candida die-off and the cellular detoxification, drinking good water will help get rid of the bad stuff in the cells and after awhile (not a couple of days) the body become happier and more functional. Your yucky feelings are due to the die-off of the candida. Any positive change of diet will help the body detoxify and that may not feel good for awhile. But after the bad stuff gets out of the cells, they can then function better than ever. I decided that patience in these changes is worth it. I will have a healing crisis, but I will begin to be healthier for the changes. BTW I was just reading about a Miracle Noodle - it is gluten free and carb free - decent fiber. I am going to see if I can find it. It is made from plants and has been used in the orient - I've read some research information on it and it seems harmless. Jill in TX > > I have started the Atkins diet today, i like to prepare my mind first for a few days, then i know why i am on it and less likely to go off it in a week or two. I am hoping i will benefit from it, i did several years ago when i last went on it and felt great. > My only question is when i stopped it before was because i was told there is less water in proteins compared to carbohydrates and any weight loss is mostly because of less water retention as the Atkins dehydrates the body and in doing so makes the kidneys/liver work harder, which puts a strain on them. If this is true (i dont know) then if its our glands that are blocked with FM which makes the pressure points hurt then surely less water means less flushing of the glands leaving more toxins behind to make us feel worse? > Or am i barking up the wrong set of woods lol? > I have also been looking into the candida theory and i have a white furry tongue (as a good way of checking for candida) oil swishing removed my white tongue yesterday completely but i felt really bad last night and this morning but getting better now. I just thought removing a load of toxins yesterday would relieve me of some of the candida symptoms until i deplete my body of sugars on the Atkins diet? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi : I don¹t know if someone answered your questions below but I just read this post. Atkins does make you lose water weight but if a 300 pound person ends up weight 175 it can¹t all be water right? So, yes there is some water weight loss but usually that¹s only the first two weeks or so. After that its all fat loss. As for it dehydrating and causing kidney problems? NOT TRUE. I researched this extensively because I only have one kidney. All you need to do is drink water every day for health reasons whether you do atkins or not. Water flushes out toxins and when you lose weight you do shed toxins. So, do not fear this diet. It works and it is healthy for those of us who get obese from food that doesn¹t make others obese. Know what I mean? You don¹t have to be a fanatic either. Do it 6 days a week and then on Sunday have a treat or something. You will lose weight big time. > > > > > I have started the Atkins diet today, i like to prepare my mind first for a > few days, then i know why i am on it and less likely to go off it in a week or > two. I am hoping i will benefit from it, i did several years ago when i last > went on it and felt great. > My only question is when i stopped it before was because i was told there is > less water in proteins compared to carbohydrates and any weight loss is mostly > because of less water retention as the Atkins dehydrates the body and in doing > so makes the kidneys/liver work harder, which puts a strain on them. If this > is true (i dont know) then if its our glands that are blocked with FM which > makes the pressure points hurt then surely less water means less flushing of > the glands leaving more toxins behind to make us feel worse? > Or am i barking up the wrong set of woods lol? > I have also been looking into the candida theory and i have a white furry > tongue (as a good way of checking for candida) oil swishing removed my white > tongue yesterday completely but i felt really bad last night and this morning > but getting better now. I just thought removing a load of toxins yesterday > would relieve me of some of the candida symptoms until i deplete my body of > sugars on the Atkins diet? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yes I agree joanne. I do think that those of us that gain weight so easily when we eat carbs have some kind of intolerance to carbs, or maybe an intolerance to certain types of carbs only. I am not sure which but I know that if I eat carbs over about 30 or 40 grams a day I start to slowly gain weight and within 4 to 6 months I will put on 20 or 30 pounds. I have proved this to myself over and over and over again. Now there are certain people who can eat carbs and not gain weight but I do not believe anybody can eat refined carbs and not gain weight refined carbs make us gain weight period. Our children today are proof of that. Sugar and white bread and white pasta are all refined carbs along with candy and ice cream of course. Nobody can handle those kinds of carbs but when we are addicted to them we will defend our diet to no end. I believe that is what those people who argue with you are about. Everybody will find their answer in their own time. So do not be frustrated only do what works for you and be as compassionate as you can be for others who cannot find their answer yet. I know when we find something that works we want the whole world to follow our example but it does not work that way. I wish it did but it does not. So if we are just good examples that is the best we can do. > > > > > Bravo, bravo, Rosemarie. In my heart and in my daily life i see the magic this > diet is doing for me but when folk ask me about it i still stutter. I am so > afraid of sharing my joy and then something bad happening to the person and > them blaming me. Not that i believe this diet can do harm, I know without > question it can only do good, but society has repeatably said it is bad so now > i expect anybody i tell my story to to mock me and say they tried it but it > caused this that and the other and then get on at me about how bad it is. > > This did happen to me in the past and i stopped doing it and put on 40lb. > > Its amazing how we have been brainwashed into believing low fat /high carb is > good for us. Just the other day i briefly spoke to somebody about the Atkins > diet and she had a whole list of reasons why it is bad for you. This woman > weighed 250lb. She was telling me how at night she binges on refined carbs and > that she worries that givig up refined carbs might be too much shock to her > system. I told her that the hunger pangs for that stuff are dramtically > reduced when you eat a low carb diet but then she said having no appetite > cannot be good for you > > Ayway, i do know by now that the best thing i can do is stick with them that > know. > > Anybody reading this who is still in doubt all i can say is how can eating > only natural food be bad for you? > > Love > > Joanne > > ________________________________ > From: Rosemarie Tropf <rosemarie@... <mailto:rosemarie%40intnet.net> > > To: fibromyalgiacured > <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 17:30:20 > Subject: Re: Atkins diet > > > Hi : > I don¹t know if someone answered your questions below but I just read this > post. Atkins does make you lose water weight but if a 300 pound person ends > up weight 175 it can¹t all be water right? So, yes there is some water > weight loss but usually that¹s only the first two weeks or so. After that > its all fat loss. > > As for it dehydrating and causing kidney problems? NOT TRUE. I researched > this extensively because I only have one kidney. All you need to do is > drink water every day for health reasons whether you do atkins or not. > Water flushes out toxins and when you lose weight you do shed toxins. > > So, do not fear this diet. It works and it is healthy for those of us who > get obese from food that doesn¹t make others obese. Know what I mean? You > don¹t have to be a fanatic either. Do it 6 days a week and then on Sunday > have a treat or something. You will lose weight big time. > > > > On 9/26/09 8:03 AM, " simplytortoise1 " <simplytortoise@ rocketmail. com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I have started the Atkins diet today, i like to prepare my mind first for a >> > few days, then i know why i am on it and less likely to go off it in a week >> or >> > two. I am hoping i will benefit from it, i did several years ago when i >> last >> > went on it and felt great. >> > My only question is when i stopped it before was because i was told there >> is >> > less water in proteins compared to carbohydrates and any weight loss is >> mostly >> > because of less water retention as the Atkins dehydrates the body and in >> doing >> > so makes the kidneys/liver work harder, which puts a strain on them. If >> this >> > is true (i dont know) then if its our glands that are blocked with FM which >> > makes the pressure points hurt then surely less water means less flushing >> of >> > the glands leaving more toxins behind to make us feel worse? >> > Or am i barking up the wrong set of woods lol? >> > I have also been looking into the candida theory and i have a white furry >> > tongue (as a good way of checking for candida) oil swishing removed my >> white >> > tongue yesterday completely but i felt really bad last night and this >> morning >> > but getting better now. I just thought removing a load of toxins yesterday >> > would relieve me of some of the candida symptoms until i deplete my body of >> > sugars on the Atkins diet? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Yesterday Dr. Oz talked about high protein diets on his tv show. He says the problems with them are kidney failure, kidney stones, and high cholesterol. Just wanted to share that info but you can take it or leave it. hah! I usually don't listen to doctors but Dr. Oz is one that I respect. He advocates health prevention and uses alternative medicine whenever possible. Tammy In a message dated 9/29/2009 6:13:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, simplytortoise@... writes: Thankyou Rosemary, If the Atkins is good enough for you then its god enough for me lol You talk a lot of sense in your posts and i accept you have checked this out extensively:Y I,m on day 3 so far, my joints dont feel as swollen and my sinus's are only half as bad, my headaches are starting to go now my sinus's are clearing ) I was just a bit worried about the bad press Atkins got years ago but things change. _http_ (http://www.simplytortoise.co.uk/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thankyou Rosemary, If the Atkins is good enough for you then its god enough for me lol You talk a lot of sense in your posts and i accept you have checked this out extensively:) I,m on day 3 so far, my joints dont feel as swollen and my sinus's are only half as bad, my headaches are starting to go now my sinus's are clearing ) I was just a bit worried about the bad press Atkins got years ago but things change. http://www.simplytortoise.co.uk/ ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 17:30:20 Subject: Re: Atkins diet Hi : I don¹t know if someone answered your questions below but I just read this post. Atkins does make you lose water weight but if a 300 pound person ends up weight 175 it can¹t all be water right? So, yes there is some water weight loss but usually that¹s only the first two weeks or so. After that its all fat loss. As for it dehydrating and causing kidney problems? NOT TRUE. I researched this extensively because I only have one kidney. All you need to do is drink water every day for health reasons whether you do atkins or not. Water flushes out toxins and when you lose weight you do shed toxins. So, do not fear this diet. It works and it is healthy for those of us who get obese from food that doesn¹t make others obese. Know what I mean? You don¹t have to be a fanatic either. Do it 6 days a week and then on Sunday have a treat or something. You will lose weight big time. On 9/26/09 8:03 AM, " simplytortoise1 " <simplytortoise@ rocketmail. com> wrote: > > > > > I have started the Atkins diet today, i like to prepare my mind first for a > few days, then i know why i am on it and less likely to go off it in a week or > two. I am hoping i will benefit from it, i did several years ago when i last > went on it and felt great. > My only question is when i stopped it before was because i was told there is > less water in proteins compared to carbohydrates and any weight loss is mostly > because of less water retention as the Atkins dehydrates the body and in doing > so makes the kidneys/liver work harder, which puts a strain on them. If this > is true (i dont know) then if its our glands that are blocked with FM which > makes the pressure points hurt then surely less water means less flushing of > the glands leaving more toxins behind to make us feel worse? > Or am i barking up the wrong set of woods lol? > I have also been looking into the candida theory and i have a white furry > tongue (as a good way of checking for candida) oil swishing removed my white > tongue yesterday completely but i felt really bad last night and this morning > but getting better now. I just thought removing a load of toxins yesterday > would relieve me of some of the candida symptoms until i deplete my body of > sugars on the Atkins diet? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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