Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I am using Olive Leaf Extract to kill fungus. Does anyone know if it will also kill Lyme as I am having a very Lymie type of a herx? I know that mold mycotoxins can be very similar to Lyme neurotoxins so maybe the herx is from killing mold. I have been really trying hard not to encyst the Lyme and only take detox herbs however, since I have reduced the Lyme load the fungus has really started to take over. I have run settings on the GB 4000 to kill mold and fungus, but I am afraid that it reproduces too fast for the rife machine to really get it. I read in Hulda 's book that Candida can come back in about 2 hours after zapping it, which makes me think killing any fungus with a Rife machine is not a viable option unless I run it every two hours. Does anyone know about Olive Leaf Extract and whether it will kill Lyme or has anyone had any success with rifing for fungus? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi , I have been using olive leaf extract and I feel awful when I take it. It is supposed to kill bacteria, viruses, retroviruses and detoxify, etc. etc. I want to stop but I keep convincing myself that it must be helping. I have had a low grade headache and fever for over a week and its not typical of my lyme or co-infection herxes. A low grade headache is not typical for me at all as I usually go straight migraine. Its either the olive leaf extract or a spring flair. Tamara > > > > I am using Olive Leaf Extract to kill fungus. Does anyone know if it will also kill Lyme as I am having a very Lymie type of a herx? I know that mold mycotoxins can be very similar to Lyme neurotoxins so maybe the herx is from killing mold. I have been really trying hard not to encyst the Lyme and only take detox herbs however, since I have reduced the Lyme load the fungus has really started to take over. I have run settings on the GB 4000 to kill mold and fungus, but I am afraid that it reproduces too fast for the rife machine to really get it. I read in Hulda 's book that Candida can come back in about 2 hours after zapping it, which makes me think killing any fungus with a Rife machine is not a viable option unless I run it every two hours. Does anyone know about Olive Leaf Extract and whether it will kill Lyme or has anyone had any success with rifing for fungus? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hi Tamara, A spring flare is typically much worse.. You might try using less olive leaf extract (OLE) and see if you body gets used to it... Please keep in mind it kills similar to other killing protocols and may mean you are killing a bit too much daily and thus causing a herx... I've learned when I add a new killing protocol to cut back a little on my other protocols until the body compensates... I believe I just got over a spring flare, lasted about a month with this past week being the worst... Jim > > > > > > I am using Olive Leaf Extract to kill fungus. Does anyone know if it will also kill Lyme as I am having a very Lymie type of a herx? I know that mold mycotoxins can be very similar to Lyme neurotoxins so maybe the herx is from killing mold. I have been really trying hard not to encyst the Lyme and only take detox herbs however, since I have reduced the Lyme load the fungus has really started to take over. I have run settings on the GB 4000 to kill mold and fungus, but I am afraid that it reproduces too fast for the rife machine to really get it. I read in Hulda 's book that Candida can come back in about 2 hours after zapping it, which makes me think killing any fungus with a Rife machine is not a viable option unless I run it every two hours. Does anyone know about Olive Leaf Extract and whether it will kill Lyme or has anyone had any success with rifing for fungus? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I have used olive leaf extract quite a bit. When i started it i literally started with a quarter of a capsule....extremely powerful in my opinion (depending on which brand you use). The one i used stays in your blood for extended periods of time. Most brands don't stay in the blood long enough to be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Which brand was this? I have used olive leaf extract quite a bit. When i started it i literally started with a quarter of a capsule....extremely powerful in my opinion (depending on which brand you use). The one i used stays in your blood for extended periods of time. Most brands don't stay in the blood long enough to be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 East Park Research is what i've been using. It works against lyme and the co-infections among other things according to Morton (antibacterial, anti-fungal, anti-parasitic, anti-viral). You can buy his book for a penny at amazon (plus shipping)...called " olive leaf extract " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hi, Do you think it's okay to take while on ABX's? From: " rmhaas221 " To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: 03/18/2010 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Olive Leaf Extract Sent by: Lyme_and_Rife East Park Research is what i've been using. It works against lyme and the co-infections among other things according to Morton (antibacterial, anti-fungal, anti-parasitic, anti-viral). You can buy his book for a penny at amazon (plus shipping)...called " olive leaf extract " . Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. ________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@.... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I don't think they advocate it. Call them up and ask though...they have product specialists you can talk to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I used the tincture and the pendulum told me to do 9 drops and I really herxed for several days. I think it probably got a lot of the Lyme that maybe the coil hasn't been able to reach. I was surprised that I had such a strong herx. Anyway, I am going to back down on it a bit as 9 drops would be fine if I could stay home all the time and ride out the herx, but I have to work. So I might try one drop a day and start bumping it up or I wonder if a big dose once a week might be better for the Lyme since it grows rather slow. The only problem would be it might let other microbes come back if you did it only once a week. I guess I am going to have to figure how to dose this stuff. My biggest concern is I do not want to encyst the disease and I am always afraid that these antimicrobial herbs may do more harm then good in the long run. I think switching out the Olive Leaf Extract with Enula, Samento, Grapefruit seed extract, Oregano oil, Colloidal Silver or any other antimicrobial herb would be a good thing to do. This would sort of be like the herbal version of the Marshall Protocol. As soon as the lyme starts getting wise to one herb, make a switch. Just a thought. I have a friend who has been doing Samento for years and every time she quits her lyme symptoms come back with a vengence. I have heard that they can multiply in the cyst, so I am cautious of doing too many of them. > > > I have used olive leaf extract quite a bit. When i started it i literally started with a quarter of a capsule....extremely powerful in my opinion (depending on which brand you use). The one i used stays in your blood for extended periods of time. Most brands don't stay in the blood long enough to be effective. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hi Jim, I'm sure your right because I did not take it yesterday and today and I feel much better. I will try again but I was only taking one capsule a day and I never thought of splitting it up. I think even for a herx that it is kind of strange that it only gave me a low grade fever and headache. I am used to all sorts of herxes but I get really nervous though when protocols make my head hurt. I can tolerate the body pain but the head pain and migraines are tough to take. Maybe I'll get the courage up to try again tomorrow. Tamara > > > > > > > > I am using Olive Leaf Extract to kill fungus. Does anyone know if it will also kill Lyme as I am having a very Lymie type of a herx? I know that mold mycotoxins can be very similar to Lyme neurotoxins so maybe the herx is from killing mold. I have been really trying hard not to encyst the Lyme and only take detox herbs however, since I have reduced the Lyme load the fungus has really started to take over. I have run settings on the GB 4000 to kill mold and fungus, but I am afraid that it reproduces too fast for the rife machine to really get it. I read in Hulda 's book that Candida can come back in about 2 hours after zapping it, which makes me think killing any fungus with a Rife machine is not a viable option unless I run it every two hours. Does anyone know about Olive Leaf Extract and whether it will kill Lyme or has anyone had any success with rifing for fungus? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 This is the same one mentioned above - two votes!L East Park Research is what i've been using. It works against lyme and the co-infections among other things according to Morton (antibacterial, anti-fungal, anti-parasitic, anti-viral). You can buy his book for a penny at amazon (plus shipping)...called " olive leaf extract " . _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 , I'm just like you - freaked out to encyst the Lyme. I wish someone would do research on these things, but even if they did looking at a spiro in a petri dish it is different than deep inside the body. Oh well. Good thing we learn to read our bodies and have each other to bounce ideas off of. I wonder if the OLE caused you to herx from something other than Lyme - like candida or something?Just a thought. I used the tincture and the pendulum told me to do 9 drops and I really herxed for several days. I think it probably got a lot of the Lyme that maybe the coil hasn't been able to reach. I was surprised that I had such a strong herx. Anyway, I am going to back down on it a bit as 9 drops would be fine if I could stay home all the time and ride out the herx, but I have to work. So I might try one drop a day and start bumping it up or I wonder if a big dose once a week might be better for the Lyme since it grows rather slow. The only problem would be it might let other microbes come back if you did it only once a week. I guess I am going to have to figure how to dose this stuff. My biggest concern is I do not want to encyst the disease and I am always afraid that these antimicrobial herbs may do more harm then good in the long run. I think switching out the Olive Leaf Extract with Enula, Samento, Grapefruit seed extract, Oregano oil, Colloidal Silver or any other antimicrobial herb would be a good thing to do. This would sort of be like the herbal version of the Marshall Protocol. As soon as the lyme starts getting wise to one herb, make a switch. Just a thought. I have a friend who has been doing Samento for years and every time she quits her lyme symptoms come back with a vengence. I have heard that they can multiply in the cyst, so I am cautious of doing too many of them. > > > I have used olive leaf extract quite a bit. When i started it i literally started with a quarter of a capsule....extremely powerful in my opinion (depending on which brand you use). The one i used stays in your blood for extended periods of time. Most brands don't stay in the blood long enough to be effective. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hi Tamara, Do I ever hear you about those head herxes... I am not sure if there is anyway to avoid headaches from a herx, it is the toxic die-off that can cause some severe headaches and migraines... But as the bacteria load gets less so should the headaches. I find that L-Triptophan helps and now that I am taking mag oil, I rarely get migraines... Still some headaches though.... You can also open up a capsule and use a partial amount... I would either mix in a bit of grape juice (masks the taste) or I have also found if you mix it in with extra virgin organic coconut oil, it does a great job of masking the taste of just about everything. When I started taking cayenne powder, in water it nearly killed me.. :-) But mixing it in coconut oil worked well.. I would add 1/8th tsp of cayenne onto a tablespoon,then fill the rest of the spoon with coconut oil, mix and slug it down... And this way you get the benefit of the powder and the coconut oil! Take care, Jim > > > > > > > > > > I am using Olive Leaf Extract to kill fungus. Does anyone know if it will also kill Lyme as I am having a very Lymie type of a herx? I know that mold mycotoxins can be very similar to Lyme neurotoxins so maybe the herx is from killing mold. I have been really trying hard not to encyst the Lyme and only take detox herbs however, since I have reduced the Lyme load the fungus has really started to take over. I have run settings on the GB 4000 to kill mold and fungus, but I am afraid that it reproduces too fast for the rife machine to really get it. I read in Hulda 's book that Candida can come back in about 2 hours after zapping it, which makes me think killing any fungus with a Rife machine is not a viable option unless I run it every two hours. Does anyone know about Olive Leaf Extract and whether it will kill Lyme or has anyone had any success with rifing for fungus? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hi Tamara, It is funny that my head has felt a lot of pressure since doing the Olive Leaf Extract. I was thinking that it probably killed off some Candida in the sinuses or something that was causing this tension in the head. I do find that taking drops in tincture form is easier for me to control doses as I can pendulum the drops. I am glad I didn't take a whole capsule. It might have really wiped me out. You might try switching to an herbal tincture and start with a drop and work up as you feel better. I think the Spring Lyme flare up is upon me, as I just feel lymier lately. I am still herxing from the Olive Leaf, but I am thinking I may need to rife again today to kill some of these symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using Olive Leaf Extract to kill fungus. Does anyone know if it will also kill Lyme as I am having a very Lymie type of a herx? I know that mold mycotoxins can be very similar to Lyme neurotoxins so maybe the herx is from killing mold. I have been really trying hard not to encyst the Lyme and only take detox herbs however, since I have reduced the Lyme load the fungus has really started to take over. I have run settings on the GB 4000 to kill mold and fungus, but I am afraid that it reproduces too fast for the rife machine to really get it. I read in Hulda 's book that Candida can come back in about 2 hours after zapping it, which makes me think killing any fungus with a Rife machine is not a viable option unless I run it every two hours. Does anyone know about Olive Leaf Extract and whether it will kill Lyme or has anyone had any success with rifing for fungus? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Hi , I think Candida was a big part of the Herx. I was also rifing fungus and mold and probably did too much. > > > > > > > > > I have used olive leaf extract quite a bit. When i started it i literally > > started with a quarter of a capsule....extremely powerful in my opinion > > (depending on which brand you use). The one i used stays in your blood for > > extended periods of time. Most brands don't stay in the blood long enough to > > be effective. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Can u give some Fungus & Mold Frequency's ? Thanx Brad To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 7:56:20 PMSubject: Re: Olive Leaf ExtractHi ,I think Candida was a big part of the Herx. I was also rifing fungus and mold and probably did too much.> > >> > >> > > I have used olive leaf extract quite a bit. When i started it i literally> > started with a quarter of a capsule....extremely powerful in my opinion> > (depending on which brand you use). The one i used stays in your blood for> > extended periods of time. Most brands don't stay in the blood long enough to> > be effective.> > >> >> > > >>------------------------------------If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. ------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Yeah, I added in oil of oregano this week, only 3 drops - and it's killing stuff. I'm going to back off.Which frequencies are you using for mold and fungus? (Not that I have any more time to coil ;-) L Hi , I think Candida was a big part of the Herx. I was also rifing fungus and mold and probably did too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Fungus and mold 943,886,866,1550,784,7870,72,254,422,582,1016,1134, 1153,2222,594,880,8450,803,8300,728,7270, 20,2644,634,854,776,7660,464 I have others if you need them. I can also get you just Candida freqs. if you want them. I have found 1550 and 465 to be particularly helpful for Candida. I also have found that 464 is helpful for athlete's foot. I think a sweep as Kara suggested down ten from 465 and up ten would yield good results. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used olive leaf extract quite a bit. When i started it i literally > > > started with a quarter of a capsule....extremely powerful in my opinion > > > (depending on which brand you use). The one i used stays in your blood for > > > extended periods of time. Most brands don't stay in the blood long enough to > > > be effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. > > ------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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