Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hi everyone, would like some advice please. 9 yr old girl, mother brought her initially due to bedwetting 5 days out of 7, never having been fully dry at night. This has now resolved. Current " problem " is that she is overweight for her height. The weight is carried all over her body, not just around her abdomen. She does regular exercise, dancing and swimming several times a week, plus PE at school. Although she really enjoys these activities, I get the impression that if she wasn't taken to do them she would be just as happy sat in front of the TV. There are short periods of time when she is in the house in an evening with older siblings, before Mum gets home, when she has been known to binge on ice cream or cheese. She does have some sweets and occasional convenience food, but diet generally good, mostly home-made and organic. She's at a private school where she has to have school meals, packed lunches not permitted - the school meals are made on the premises and aren't too bad. She's obviously drawn to dairy produce (hence the afternoon ice-cream/cheese eating) but it has always caused her to suffer from catarrh so her Mum keeps it to a minimum. She's also drawn to sweets and fizzy pop - I've tried to get an accurate picture of what she's eating, but it's obviously a bit difficult with Mum there. I think she probably eats more than she admits to/Mum knows about. Mum says her appetitie is " larger than you would expect " and that she eats very quickly. She rarely feels thirsty and Mum has problems getting her to drink anything in the morning - although offer her a fizzy drink and she'll readily drink it! I've suggested and Mum has tried all sorts of different healthier drinks, but to no avail. Only time she seems really thirsty is late evening. Bowels open daily, but can be large stools and sometimes painful to pass. No other health problems. The rest of the family are tall and slim, she's the youngest by about 9 years and speaks in a baby-like voice. I'm reluctant to make the weight issue into too much of a health problem, because she's exercising and her diet really isn't too bad. She's not had any tests done by the GP and doesn't exhibit any other signs of an underlying condition such as underactive thyroid. In my own experience I've found that weight can change dramatically at puberty, two of my own children were quite " rounded " when younger in spite of a good diet and exercise, but once they hit their teens the excess weight just disappeared. So I'm not convinced that there is a problem as such. Her mother has been concerned about the issue for some time but it's come to head now because she's moved to a different school (where her mum is worried about her being bullied because of her weight) and because she's been asked to be a bridesmaid next year. I've given her Centella, Galium, Iris versicolor, Urtica rad, Fucus which she's only been on for a month, but no change yet. Would really appreciate any ideas. Regards Sue Salmon Huddersfield ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 19/09/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Sue, how about small amount of Galega (or Gymnema) to reduce these sweet cravings. However, I think you are right, some children are just podgy when young and lose it in puberty. Fizzy drinks have to go though, they are bad for anybody, irrespective of weight, I usually suggest carbonated water with some cordial/syrup. Sue Salmon wrote: Hi everyone, would like some advice please. 9 yr old girl, mother brought her initially due to bedwetting 5 days out of 7, never having been fully dry at night. This has now resolved. Current " problem " is that she is overweight for her height. The weight is carried all over her body, not just around her abdomen. She does regular exercise, dancing and swimming several times a week, plus PE at school. Although she really enjoys these activities, I get the impression that if she wasn't taken to do them she would be just as happy sat in front of the TV. There are short periods of time when she is in the house in an evening with older siblings, before Mum gets home, when she has been known to binge on ice cream or cheese. She does have some sweets and occasional convenience food, but diet generally good, mostly home-made and organic. She's at a private school where she has to have school meals, packed lunches not permitted - the school meals are made on the premises and aren't too bad. She's obviously drawn to dairy produce (hence the afternoon ice-cream/cheese eating) but it has always caused her to suffer from catarrh so her Mum keeps it to a minimum. She's also drawn to sweets and fizzy pop - I've tried to get an accurate picture of what she's eating, but it's obviously a bit difficult with Mum there. I think she probably eats more than she admits to/Mum knows about. Mum says her appetitie is " larger than you would expect " and that she eats very quickly. She rarely feels thirsty and Mum has problems getting her to drink anything in the morning - although offer her a fizzy drink and she'll readily drink it! I've suggested and Mum has tried all sorts of different healthier drinks, but to no avail. Only time she seems really thirsty is late evening. Bowels open daily, but can be large stools and sometimes painful to pass. No other health problems. The rest of the family are tall and slim, she's the youngest by about 9 years and speaks in a baby-like voice. I'm reluctant to make the weight issue into too much of a health problem, because she's exercising and her diet really isn't too bad. She's not had any tests done by the GP and doesn't exhibit any other signs of an underlying condition such as underactive thyroid. In my own experience I've found that weight can change dramatically at puberty, two of my own children were quite " rounded " when younger in spite of a good diet and exercise, but once they hit their teens the excess weight just disappeared. So I'm not convinced that there is a problem as such. Her mother has been concerned about the issue for some time but it's come to head now because she's moved to a different school (where her mum is worried about her being bullied because of her weight) and because she's been asked to be a bridesmaid next year. I've given her Centella, Galium, Iris versicolor, Urtica rad, Fucus which she's only been on for a month, but no change yet. Would really appreciate any ideas. Regards Sue Salmon Huddersfield ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 19/09/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Sweet cravings can be due to chromium deficinecy > Sue, how about small amount of Galega (or Gymnema) to reduce these sweet > cravings. However, I think you are right, some children are just podgy > when young and lose it in puberty. Fizzy drinks have to go though, they > are bad for anybody, irrespective of weight, I usually suggest carbonated > water with some cordial/syrup. > > > Sue Salmon wrote: > Hi everyone, would like some advice please. 9 yr old > girl, mother brought her initially due to bedwetting 5 days out of 7, > never having been fully dry at night. This has now resolved. Current > " problem " is that she is overweight for her height. The weight is carried > all over her body, not just around her abdomen. She does regular > exercise, dancing and swimming several times a week, plus PE at school. > Although she really enjoys these activities, I get the impression that if > she wasn't taken to do them she would be just as happy sat in front of > the TV. There are short periods of time when she is in the house in an > evening with older siblings, before Mum gets home, when she has been > known to binge on ice cream or cheese. She does have some sweets and > occasional convenience food, but diet generally good, mostly home-made > and organic. She's at a private school where she > has to have school meals, packed lunches not permitted - the school > meals are made on the premises and aren't too bad. She's obviously drawn > to dairy produce (hence the afternoon ice-cream/cheese eating) but it > has always caused her to suffer from catarrh so her Mum keeps it to a > minimum. She's also drawn to sweets and fizzy pop - I've tried to get an > accurate picture of what she's eating, but it's obviously a bit > difficult with Mum there. I think she probably eats more than she admits > to/Mum knows about. Mum says her appetitie is " larger than you would > expect " and that she eats very quickly. She rarely feels thirsty and Mum > has problems getting her to drink anything in the morning - although > offer her a fizzy drink and she'll readily drink it! I've suggested and > Mum has tried all sorts of different healthier drinks, but to no avail. > Only time she seems really thirsty is late evening. Bowels open daily, > but can be large stools and sometimes painful to pass. > No other health problems. > The rest of the family are tall and slim, she's the youngest by about 9 > years and speaks in a baby-like voice. I'm reluctant to make the weight > issue into too much of a health problem, because she's exercising and > her diet really isn't too bad. She's not had any tests done by the GP > and doesn't exhibit any other signs of an underlying condition such as > underactive thyroid. In my own experience I've found that weight can > change dramatically at puberty, two of my own children were quite > " rounded " when younger in spite of a good diet and exercise, but once > they hit their teens the excess weight just disappeared. So I'm not > convinced that there is a problem as such. Her mother has been > concerned about the issue for some time but it's come to head now > because she's moved to a different school (where her mum is worried > about her being bullied because of her weight) and because she's been > asked to be a bridesmaid next year. I've given her > Centella, Galium, Iris versicolor, Urtica rad, Fucus which she's only > been on for a month, but no change yet. > Would really appreciate any ideas. > Regards > Sue Salmon > Huddersfield > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: > 19/09/2006 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 > > Hi everyone, would like some advice please. 9 yr old girl, mother brought her initially due to bedwetting 5 days out of 7, never having been fully dry at night. This has now resolved. Current " problem " is that she is overweight for her height. The weight is carried all over her body, not just around her abdomen. She does regular exercise, dancing and swimming several times a week, plus PE at school. Although she really enjoys these activities, I get the impression that if she wasn't taken to do them she would be just as happy sat in front of the TV. There are short periods of time when she is in the house in an evening with older siblings, before Mum gets home, when she has been known to binge on ice cream or cheese. She does have some sweets and occasional convenience food, but diet generally good, mostly home-made and organic. She's at a private school where she has to have school meals, packed lunches not permitted - the school meals are made on the premises and aren't too bad. She's obviously drawn to dairy produce (hence the afternoon ice-cream/cheese eating) but it has always caused her to suffer from catarrh so her Mum keeps it to a minimum. She's also drawn to sweets and fizzy pop - I've tried to get an accurate picture of what she's eating, but it's obviously a bit difficult with Mum there. I think she probably eats more than she admits to/Mum knows about. Mum says her appetitie is " larger than you would expect " and that she eats very quickly. She rarely feels thirsty and Mum has problems getting her to drink anything in the morning - although offer her a fizzy drink and she'll readily drink it! I've suggested and Mum has tried all sorts of different healthier drinks, but to no avail. Only time she seems really thirsty is late evening. Bowels open daily, but can be large stools and sometimes painful to pass. > No other health problems. > The rest of the family are tall and slim, she's the youngest by about 9 years and speaks in a baby-like voice. I'm reluctant to make the weight issue into too much of a health problem, because she's exercising and her diet really isn't too bad. She's not had any tests done by the GP and doesn't exhibit any other signs of an underlying condition such as underactive thyroid. In my own experience I've found that weight can change dramatically at puberty, two of my own children were quite " rounded " when younger in spite of a good diet and exercise, but once they hit their teens the excess weight just disappeared. So I'm not convinced that there is a problem as such. Her mother has been concerned about the issue for some time but it's come to head now because she's moved to a different school (where her mum is worried about her being bullied because of her weight) and because she's been asked to be a bridesmaid next year. I've given her > Centella, Galium, Iris versicolor, Urtica rad, Fucus which she's only been on for a month, but no change yet. > Would really appreciate any ideas. > Regards > Sue Salmon > Huddersfield > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 19/09/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 It sounds like there are emotional issues at work here and perhaps she is comfort eating. It can be a difficult area to raise with parents, and the mother may not necessarily be aware of any problem. Perhaps she is a sensitive child and not dealing very well with working parents, perhaps there is bullying at school or a history of some kind of trauma. It would be worth looking into and including lots of nervines in the mix. Ãine Marie > > > > > Hi everyone, would like some advice please. 9 yr old girl, mother > brought her initially > due to bedwetting 5 days out of 7, never having been fully dry at > night. This has now > resolved. Current " problem " is that she is overweight for her height. > The weight is carried > all over her body, not just around her abdomen. She does regular > exercise, dancing and > swimming several times a week, plus PE at school. Although she really > enjoys these > activities, I get the impression that if she wasn't taken to do them > she would be just as > happy sat in front of the TV. There are short periods of time when > she is in the house in an > evening with older siblings, before Mum gets home, when she has been > known to binge > on ice cream or cheese. She does have some sweets and occasional > convenience food, but > diet generally good, mostly home-made and organic. She's at a private > school where she > has to have school meals, packed lunches not permitted - the school > meals are made on > the premises and aren't too bad. She's obviously drawn to dairy > produce (hence the > afternoon ice-cream/cheese eating) but it has always caused her to > suffer from catarrh so > her Mum keeps it to a minimum. She's also drawn to sweets and fizzy > pop - I've tried to > get an accurate picture of what she's eating, but it's obviously a > bit difficult with Mum > there. I think she probably eats more than she admits to/Mum knows > about. Mum says her > appetitie is " larger than you would expect " and that she eats very > quickly. She rarely feels > thirsty and Mum has problems getting her to drink anything in the > morning - although > offer her a fizzy drink and she'll readily drink it! I've suggested > and Mum has tried all sorts > of different healthier drinks, but to no avail. Only time she seems > really thirsty is late > evening. Bowels open daily, but can be large stools and sometimes > painful to pass. > > No other health problems. > > The rest of the family are tall and slim, she's the youngest by > about 9 years and speaks > in a baby-like voice. I'm reluctant to make the weight issue into too > much of a health > problem, because she's exercising and her diet really isn't too bad. > She's not had any tests > done by the GP and doesn't exhibit any other signs of an underlying > condition such as > underactive thyroid. In my own experience I've found that weight can > change dramatically > at puberty, two of my own children were quite " rounded " when younger > in spite of a good > diet and exercise, but once they hit their teens the excess weight > just disappeared. So I'm > not convinced that there is a problem as such. Her mother has been > concerned about the > issue for some time but it's come to head now because she's moved to > a different school > (where her mum is worried about her being bullied because of her > weight) and because > she's been asked to be a bridesmaid next year. I've given her > > Centella, Galium, Iris versicolor, Urtica rad, Fucus which she's > only been on for a month, > but no change yet. > > Would really appreciate any ideas. > > Regards > > Sue Salmon > > Huddersfield > > > > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: > 19/09/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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