Guest guest Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Many thanks Niki ________________________________________________________________________________Willow Herbal ClinicWeb: www.willowherbal.co.ukTel: 01903 816426 To: uk herbal-list <ukherbal-list > Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011, 13:22 Subject: RE: Bowel Cancer Dear I spoke to Hilda a herbalist who has considerable experience in this area and she suggested the following two specialists if you wanted to have second or third opinions and I think one or both of them are on the NHS Karol Sikkora - http://www.karolsikora.com/Professor Dalgliesh – UCH – London Hilda also mentioned Dr – Oncologist is doing some research (clinical trial) using Curmuma long, broccoli, pomegranate and green tea, for cancer at the moment. Best wishes Niki To: ukherbal-list From: niki_lawrence@...Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:21:50 +0000Subject: RE: Bowel Cancer Dear I would suggest that you should definitely get a second or even third opinion. Your doctor should supply you with a copy of your scan/colonoscopy results, although they may charge a small fee. I would take these along to a consultant such as a good one in Harley street – maybe one of the herbalists on this site can recommend a good one?? As this is only an opinion you are asking for it won’t cost the earth and it maybe be very interesting/helpful to hear differing views. I wouldn’t though see a specialist that works near or with your current specialist as obviously that could affect what they say. I certainly wouldn’t rush your decision - rather ask around some of the highly experienced herbalists. I not sure where you live but it might be really good to have a chat to someone like Church first and build up a bigger and more informed picture Best wishes Niki To: ukherbal-list From: ainemreilly@...Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:00:31 +0000Subject: Re: Bowel Cancer Thank you for that Sounds like it is essential to give herbs to eradicate harmful bacteria, together with pre-and probiotics to re-establish healthy flora if recommending apricot kernels. I usually give herbs such as Tabebuia or Hydrastis to patients with bowel cancer (for anti-cancer and restorative effects respectively) so these would help. I also recommend eating no more than 5 kernels in one go. Hydrogen cyanide is one of the most potent toxins there is, as I am sure that you already know. It kills normal cells as rapidly as it kills cancer cells. If hydrogen cyanide is produced in the colon by enzymatic transformation of amygdalin by bacteria, then whole parts of the gut could be damaged, not just any cancerous areas. From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] On Behalf Of Annette WassSent: 13 December 2011 05:11To: ukherbal-list Subject: Re: Bowel Cancer but if hydrogen cyanide kills the respiratory chain of the cancer cell then surely thats a good thing even when no overt cancer is present - as a sort of " prophylactic " ? still confused ... ! regards ,annette RE: Bowel Cancer The bad bacteria can cause the gut side effects if the bitter apricot kernels are eaten in large amounts, by sensitive patients, so this reaction is bad. Basically if there are loads of “bad†bacteria in the gut, rather than the “good†commensal bacteria, they will release hydrogen cyanide into the gut, which is not a good thing... Best wishes, Chris From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] On Behalf Of Annette WassSent: 12 December 2011 20:18To: ukherbal-list Subject: Re: Bowel Cancer am I being a bit thick or does your statement actually suggest the bad bacteria are in fact good if they are expressing beta glucuronidase which can lead to release of hydrogen cyanide and then cancer cell inhibition - or have I got that all .... about ....?! regards , annette Just to correct Aine Marie’s explanation slightly, apricot kernels do contain the cyanogenic glycoside amygdalin (which is similar in structure to prunasin, one of the active compounds in wild cherry that we all use). However, human cells lack the enzyme (beta-glucuronidase) needed to break down amygdalin to release hydrogen cyanide. However, some (but not all) cancer cells, as they revert to a more stem-cell like state as they grow and spread, do start to express the gene for beta-glucuronidase and thus produce this enzyme. This means that when the amygdalin (or actually its breakdown product laetrile) reaches the cancer cell containing this enzyme, hydrogen cyanide is released and the respiratory chain in the cancer cell inhibited – causing death of the cell. It is important to note a few things: <!--[if !supportLists]-->1) <!--[endif]-->Not all cancer cells do revert to produce beta-glucuronidase, and for these cancers, apricot kernels do not work. <!--[if !supportLists]-->2) <!--[endif]-->We do have bad bacteria in our guts that express beta-glucuronidase, so high doses of apricot kernels can sometimes cause digestive(etc) in scramping ome patients. Best wishes, Chris From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] On Behalf Of Ãine Marie ReillySent: 09 December 2011 23:56To: ukherbal-list Subject: Re: Bowel Cancer Apricot kernels can be bought in some health stores or online. They are like almonds but bitter to taste. It's best to eat them with an apricot, fresh or dried, or even an apple. you can just eat them like a nut, or grind and sprinkle on cereal etc.Eat no more than five at a time, with at least an hour before eating another 5. They contain cyanide which is bound up in a larger molecule (amygdalin), in which form it is harmless. enzymes in your body help to keep it stable (unless you eat loads and overwhelm these enzymes). However, cancer cells lack these enzymes, and instead tend to cause the molecule to break apart, thereby destroying the cell. B17 therapy was developed from apricot kernels, but in my view, since this is a pharmaceutical product, it is really just unlicensed chemotherapy, and i would prefer to use the apricot kernels in their natural form. AnnMarie, that's fantastic information, thank you. It's reassuring to know that removal of lymphatic tissue is needed, so I know I'm not losing something unnecessarily. I don't know how I could go about obtaining a second opinion within the NHS? I can't afford to go privately. However, I'll certainly look to including those herbs you mentioned and I'm planning to implement dietary changes similar to those you've suggested. I didn't know about the apricot kernels. Where would I get them from? Do they have to be ground? Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience.Regards, ________________________________________________________________________________ Willow Herbal ClinicWeb: www.willowherbal.co.ukTel: 01903 816426 No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4075 - Release Date: 12/11/11 No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4076 - Release Date: 12/12/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 There's already a non toxic supplement for bowel cancer that is found in broccoli and rosa spp. no need to go down the bitter almond route if you don't want to. Have tonnes of info if you want. http://www.theshenclinic.com/en/treatments/salvestrols Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > AnnMarie, that's fantastic information, thank you. It's reassuring to know that removal of lymphatic tissue is needed, so I know I'm not losing something unnecessarily. I don't know how I could go about obtaining a second opinion within the NHS? I can't afford to go privately. However, I'll certainly look to including those herbs you mentioned and I'm planning to implement dietary changes similar to those you've suggested. > > I didn't know about the apricot kernels. Where would I get them from? Do they have to be ground? > > > Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience. > > Regards, > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > > Willow Herbal Clinic > Web: www.willowherbal.co.uk > Tel: 01903 816426 > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4075 - Release Date: 12/11/11 > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4076 - Release Date: 12/12/11 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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