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Oversleeping and fatigue are common hypothyroid symptoms. I am 29 now

and first got symptoms of hypothyroidism at 18 years old, so no, it

is not too young although it is more common in menopausal women.

Jan

> I'm new to all this. I have no clue what thyroid is really. Well

> to an extent I do. I was just reading Topper's email...I believe

> that's the name it was signed by, if I'm wrong, I'm very sorry for

> that. Anyway, what are symptoms of an underactive thyroid? I know

> one is the low body temp, but I'm sure that there are more. I was

> reading in that email about being tired a lot. And not being able

> to wake up, is that for an underactive or over active tyhroid? I

> know that I am tired a lot and my husband has commented on it,

> saying " Maybe there is something wrong with you? " " You sleep too

> much. " I mean, I've gotten better at sleeping all day long and

> sleeping often. I rarly do it now. I'm too busy...Working three

> jobs, coming home to clean the house, make dinner right after

work.

> The normal stuff that just has to be done. Get bills out and paid

> on time. STRESS!! I mean, I usually don't stay up late. Once in

> awhile I will and then catch up on sleep the next day. Or when I'm

> bored I will sleep. Guess it's better than eatting all the time.

> Sure I eat. Sometimes I eat when I get bored. But I don't think

> that I eat overly. Some days I find it hard to get time to eat. I

> get up, rush to get ready for work, and head to work. I don't have

> spare cash on me, all my money goes to the banking account, so I

> don't usually get something to eat til I get home from work around

> 3:30. Which, yes I know isn't a good thing. I haven't had any

type

> of weight gain, or weight lose. I've been able to maintain my

> weight for the past two years...Well I can't say that, cause when I

> went through Basic training for the military about a year ago, I

> gained 20lbs there, but lost it right away. It went straight to my

> thighs, so I think it was more muscle than anything. I did end up

> losing weight around my waist, or inches I should say. But I'm

just

> wondering what other symptoms there are to under or overactive

> thyroid. I'm really interested in finding this out. Right now I

> don't have insurance, I have to wait on getting it, and if worse

> comes to worse, there is a company here in WI that will sign me up

> right away no questions. Some High Risk thing. Can over or under

> active thyroid get worse as years go on? What age is it most

common

> in? Can anyone get this? Is it normal for an 18 year old to be

> going through this? Yes I'm only 18. I have just never heard of

> this in the younger generation. I hear about it in older people,

no

> offense to anyone please. Sorry if there is some taken. Anyway, I

> think that's all the questions I have for now. I'm sure that I'll

> think of more and I'll post when I get them.

>

> Thanks all,

> Janko

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Hello ---First, I'll say that there are many many young people who have

thyroid disease (yes, disease). It usually runs in families, or a tendency

t'wd it, due to genetics of particular chromosomes, plus, we know that our

poisoned environment has something to do with the onset of it. Also, long,

ongoing stress has everything to do with it. I must mention here, to be

fair, that I feel like you may have some stressors there that might

contribute, if you DO have thyroid disease: You say that you're working 3

jobs, doing all the housework, and cooking all the meals? You're married,

and that's a job for TWO people, when both are working (especially 3 jobs).

It's called shared responsibility in marriage. Ok, now, about your thyroid:

If you want to know if you are hypo, you need to find a good thyroid doctor

(not necessarily an endocrinologist; they have a tendency to know very

little about your thyroid, only diabetes and such). A good family doctor or

internal medicine doc are the most likely. Don't be afraid to " interview " a

clinic over the phone and ask these questions: (1) Do you do the Free T3

and Free T4 testing, or only TSH, and Totals testing (2)Do you believe in

only prescribing Synthroid for this problem, or do you also believe in

alternative methods, such as Natural Thyroid Hormone (Armour, Naturethroid,

etc...) (3)Do you accept insurance, or are you a cash only basis (4)Do you

believe in listening to what the patient has to say and going by that,

rather than #s only on a lab test, and treating by the way I feel?------

If you believe that you have thyroid disease, then you should take action on

these things, and also---slow down your stressors by sharing

responsibilities and enjoying life. After all, what is life worth, if you

can't enjoy daily living? Give us an entire list of your symptoms, no

matter how far-fetched it may seem to you, and a little history on your

health please.

Tx

Questions

> I'm new to all this. I have no clue what thyroid is really. Well

> to an extent I do. I was just reading Topper's email...I believe

> that's the name it was signed by, if I'm wrong, I'm very sorry for

> that. Anyway, what are symptoms of an underactive thyroid? I know

> one is the low body temp, but I'm sure that there are more. I was

> reading in that email about being tired a lot. And not being able

> to wake up, is that for an underactive or over active tyhroid? I

> know that I am tired a lot and my husband has commented on it,

> saying " Maybe there is something wrong with you? " " You sleep too

> much. " I mean, I've gotten better at sleeping all day long and

> sleeping often. I rarly do it now. I'm too busy...Working three

> jobs, coming home to clean the house, make dinner right after work.

> The normal stuff that just has to be done. Get bills out and paid

> on time. STRESS!! I mean, I usually don't stay up late. Once in

> awhile I will and then catch up on sleep the next day. Or when I'm

> bored I will sleep. Guess it's better than eatting all the time.

> Sure I eat. Sometimes I eat when I get bored. But I don't think

> that I eat overly. Some days I find it hard to get time to eat. I

> get up, rush to get ready for work, and head to work. I don't have

> spare cash on me, all my money goes to the banking account, so I

> don't usually get something to eat til I get home from work around

> 3:30. Which, yes I know isn't a good thing. I haven't had any type

> of weight gain, or weight lose. I've been able to maintain my

> weight for the past two years...Well I can't say that, cause when I

> went through Basic training for the military about a year ago, I

> gained 20lbs there, but lost it right away. It went straight to my

> thighs, so I think it was more muscle than anything. I did end up

> losing weight around my waist, or inches I should say. But I'm just

> wondering what other symptoms there are to under or overactive

> thyroid. I'm really interested in finding this out. Right now I

> don't have insurance, I have to wait on getting it, and if worse

> comes to worse, there is a company here in WI that will sign me up

> right away no questions. Some High Risk thing. Can over or under

> active thyroid get worse as years go on? What age is it most common

> in? Can anyone get this? Is it normal for an 18 year old to be

> going through this? Yes I'm only 18. I have just never heard of

> this in the younger generation. I hear about it in older people, no

> offense to anyone please. Sorry if there is some taken. Anyway, I

> think that's all the questions I have for now. I'm sure that I'll

> think of more and I'll post when I get them.

>

> Thanks all,

> Janko

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  • 5 years later...

My daughter's tethered cord was discovered at birth and her surgery was done 3

months later. She had be catheterized for about a month after surgery and then

they told us we could stop. However, when it came time to potty train, she never

could. When she was 5, they did another urodynamics and discovered that her

bladder control was extremely minimal. So we had to go back to the catheter 4-5

times per day and she takes ditropan twice a day. It was overwhelming at first

(learning how to do it, and getting her used to it, plus dealing with emotional

repurcussions) but, now it is completely normal and she has no problems with it

at all. She is almost 7 now and goes to school full days. I have to go to the

school once a day to do her catheter for her as she is not yet old enough to do

it on her own. So, yes, my daughter like yours was fine post op for several

years, but it didn't last long. Has your daughter a urodynamics study done? From

what I've researched, and I am by NO MEANS an expert here, it is possible to

have normal bladder function after an untether, but it is a common complication

as teh nerves controlling the bladder are low in teh spinal cord where tethering

usually occurs.

>

> Hi Everyone,

> I am new to all of this. I have a 7 month old who had surgery for her TC about

a month ago. She had no symptoms at all. She is doing great, had a normal

bladder ultrasound and VCUG. She had no reflux nothing. The urologist though has

told us to cath her and give her Ditropan for " preventative " measures. We have

so many mixed emotions on this, and are plannning on getting a second opinion.

Anyone have any advice to share about this? Also does anyone have is anyone's

child's bladder normal? Is this possible with a TC? Thanks.

>

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How can I reply to just one person? I am still figuring this group whole thing

out. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

-- In tetheredspinalcord , " hollygolightly1916 "

wrote:

>

> Has your Ped Nsg or Urologist suggested getting her in for a urodynamnic

study? I see you said her ultrasound was clear/negative -- but he's put her on

ditropan for " possible " leaking/incontinence? Hmmm, I'd definately get a second

opinion from another Ped Urologist (one that is familiar with NTD/spinal birth

defects/conditions.) 7 months is awfully early to be prescribing such strong Rx

meds. I myself had very unpleasant experiences with urodynamics -- but this was

15 years ago -- and I believe they've gotten better. Even though I will not put

myself through such a procedure does not mean I dismiss them as important

diagnostic tool -- because they do give good feedback -- gage on condition of

nerves & the bladder. Good luck!

>

>

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> > I am new to all of this. I have a 7 month old who had surgery for her TC

about a month ago. She had no symptoms at all. She is doing great, had a normal

bladder ultrasound and VCUG. She had no reflux nothing. The urologist though has

told us to cath her and give her Ditropan for " preventative " measures. We have

so many mixed emotions on this, and are plannning on getting a second opinion.

Anyone have any advice to share about this? Also does anyone have is anyone's

child's bladder normal? Is this possible with a TC? Thanks.

> >

>

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Deb: , bring an I-pod to listen to music to and to help you to tune out the road rage. As for the “I don’t know” thing, answer’s every question with, no. Then he will keep talking and usually the eventual answer is yes which I found very confusing. We talked about it many times before he was even able to hear himself saying it. Then he explained it as a sort of place holder for. I’m thinking, give me a moment please. So I try to disregard the initial “no” as though it were a sort of Tourette’s tick. J Cheers,Deb From: aspires-relationships [mailto:aspires-relationships ] On Behalf Of SuSent: December-07-11 7:15 PMTo: aspires-relationships Subject: Re: Questions Helen, I like how you put things into the AS perspective. Especially the answer to the low libido and the " missing " theory of mind. It is so true how can he miss something that he isn't missing. Very true. I guess that's the sad part sometimes, I wish he could be able to understand or feel what it would be like not to have me in his life. hehe Yes if I'm driving there is no way he can turn off the music. I guess sometimes I like it when he drives the long road trips to the city or just drive in general cause I feel like since I do so much, can't he drive cause he's good at it? But then if I want to stop the road rage and want to listen to music then I have to take on another responsibility which is driving I guess. But I think you're right about sex being another form of communication to him. I wish he would just stop saying " I don't know " to that question. But for now the only reason that explains it is probably what you're saying. I wish we had more of a sex life but I'm happy he will never cheat on me. Hi ,I will weigh in on a few of your questions..Diagnosis: This is also a " new " diagnosis, only recognized in the DSM in 1994, I think, and then it was almost exclusively children that were diagnosed. My own belief is that it is uncommon for adults to be diagnosed because they learn to mask many of the markers of an ASD. With the proposed " updated " criteria in the DSM V comes into effect in 2013, I think a lot less adults will be diagnosed, too. Back in the day, even if his parents noticed something off about him, there wasn't a great deal they could do. Some parents do remain in denial about their adult children, too. Employment issues: Depending on what issues are co-morbid with AS, it may or may not affect the person's employability. Elsewhere in your questions it seems that your husband is disorganized and undisciplined in some areas so his executive functioning is affected. He may also have slower processing of incoming stimulus, get tired easily because of the energy he has to put into simply taking everything on board throughout the day, and he may also have problems with social interaction at work. He may not present well at interviews for all the same reasons. Meltdowns: You refer to him breaking things and generally raging when he gets frustrated that something does not fit. I would suspect that he had this behavior since childhood and his family either ignored it or pandered to it, but otherwise, since AS was not known then, didn't seem to be aware that this wasn't something he was going to " grow out of. " He needs to learn to self regulate. AS and Sex: Certainly the timing of initiation seems to be a big issue for many on the spectrum, and often the timing is inappropriate. As you say, though, for you, any initiation no matter when might be good! Ruling out metabolic problems, depression or naturally low libido (some AS here have reported that) there could be other factors such as difficulty with touch, smells, etc. Last but not least, while sex can be many things to many people, among committed couples it is also another form of communication which strengthens their bond. With some AS, problems with intimacy is an extension of other social/communication/empathy difficulties. Regarding your question, why wouldn't the spouse who was seemingly withholding not worry about losing their partner. I think because the marital dynamic has already shifted from partner/partner to parent/child, there is the expectation that one will not be abandoned regardless of the bad behavior because after all, their mother gave unconditional love no matter how they behaved. And with impaired theory of mind issues, it is hard for them to imagine a partner missing something that they don't.No music or talking allowed in the car: Some of this is rigid behavior, something common to most AS until it is pointed out to them. If he has sensory processing disorder (and it sounds like he does) he probably can't concentrate on more than one thing at once. If you are driving, you should be allowed to talk or play music to your own comfort level though. - Helen

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LOL Deb yeh with hubby too he says no a lot, and then in the end sometimes yes, I haven't figured it out either let me know if you do.I like the ipod idea love it!Thankschristina

Deb: , bring an I-pod to listen to music to and to help you to tune out the road rage. As for the “I don’t know” thing, answer’s every question with, no. Then he will keep talking and usually the eventual answer is yes which I found very confusing. We talked about it many times before he was even able to hear himself saying it. Then he explained it as a sort of place holder for. I’m thinking, give me a moment please. So I try to disregard the initial “no” as though it were a sort of Tourette’s tick. J Cheers,Deb From: aspires-relationships [mailto:aspires-relationships ] On Behalf Of SuSent: December-07-11 7:15 PMTo: aspires-relationships Subject: Re: Questions Helen, I like how you put things into the AS perspective. Especially the answer to the low libido and the "missing" theory of mind. It is so true how can he miss something that he isn't missing. Very true. I guess that's the sad part sometimes, I wish he could be able to understand or feel what it would be like not to have me in his life. hehe Yes if I'm driving there is no way he can turn off the music. I guess sometimes I like it when he drives the long road trips to the city or just drive in general cause I feel like since I do so much, can't he drive cause he's good at it? But then if I want to stop the road rage and want to listen to music then I have to take on another responsibility which is driving I guess. But I think you're right about sex being another form of communication to him. I wish he would just stop saying "I don't know" to that question. But for now the only reason that explains it is probably what you're saying. I wish we had more of a sex life but I'm happy he will never cheat on me. Hi ,I will weigh in on a few of your questions..Diagnosis: This is also a "new" diagnosis, only recognized in the DSM in 1994, I think, and then it was almost exclusively children that were diagnosed. My own belief is that it is uncommon for adults to be diagnosed because they learn to mask many of the markers of an ASD. With the proposed "updated" criteria in the DSM V comes into effect in 2013, I think a lot less adults will be diagnosed, too. Back in the day, even if his parents noticed something off about him, there wasn't a great deal they could do. Some parents do remain in denial about their adult children, too. Employment issues: Depending on what issues are co-morbid with AS, it may or may not affect the person's employability. Elsewhere in your questions it seems that your husband is disorganized and undisciplined in some areas so his executive functioning is affected. He may also have slower processing of incoming stimulus, get tired easily because of the energy he has to put into simply taking everything on board throughout the day, and he may also have problems with social interaction at work. He may not present well at interviews for all the same reasons. Meltdowns: You refer to him breaking things and generally raging when he gets frustrated that something does not fit. I would suspect that he had this behavior since childhood and his family either ignored it or pandered to it, but otherwise, since AS was not known then, didn't seem to be aware that this wasn't something he was going to "grow out of." He needs to learn to self regulate. AS and Sex: Certainly the timing of initiation seems to be a big issue for many on the spectrum, and often the timing is inappropriate. As you say, though, for you, any initiation no matter when might be good! Ruling out metabolic problems, depression or naturally low libido (some AS here have reported that) there could be other factors such as difficulty with touch, smells, etc. Last but not least, while sex can be many things to many people, among committed couples it is also another form of communication which strengthens their bond. With some AS, problems with intimacy is an extension of other social/communication/empathy difficulties. Regarding your question, why wouldn't the spouse who was seemingly withholding not worry about losing their partner. I think because the marital dynamic has already shifted from partner/partner to parent/child, there is the expectation that one will not be abandoned regardless of the bad behavior because after all, their mother gave unconditional love no matter how they behaved. And with impaired theory of mind issues, it is hard for them to imagine a partner missing something that they don't.No music or talking allowed in the car: Some of this is rigid behavior, something common to most AS until it is pointed out to them. If he has sensory processing disorder (and it sounds like he does) he probably can't concentrate on more than one thing at once. If you are driving, you should be allowed to talk or play music to your own comfort level though. - Helen

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> Deb: OMG Liz, I LOVE the household appliance metaphor! Thanks, I plan to use

> it, but I will make sure to give you credit. :)

Feel free! Credit is nice, too.

I have a sporadic " blog within a blog " called The Aspie Parent with more gems

like this. It's up to the reader to decide whether The Aspie Parent is a parent

with AS or the patent of an Aspie … in reality, it's both. I have assorted

random tips and fun thoughts about Aspergers, some are expansions of my posts

here, some from a parenting list I was on, and some things just wandered in and

yelled at me until I wrote them down.

The blog URL is http://polymathsolution.com/blog and is part of my company

website (same url, without the /blog)

-Liz

>

> Re: Questions

>

>

>

>> I was wondering a lot of things about my partner and don't understand or

> have the answers. especially number 4:

>

> A lot of these are very general people things, or insensitive person of any

> type things. Some are completely unique to the person and independent of

> AS/NT or any other condition. Saying that, I'll answer as both an AS woman

> and the (ex) wife of an AS man.

>

>> 1. How come many Aspie men can't find jobs, or hold jobs, or don't want to

> work, if they do have a job it's an uphill battle to try to get him to stay

> at one job for more than 2 years? no job is ever satisfying to him because

> he wants to make something of himself. But for a guy who needs specifics,

> how come he is so general and chooses such a broad goal? To me if I want to

> make something of myself I pick small goals to lead up to that like more

> education.

>

> Im stbx' case, while he was a fantastic engineer, he had two As-related

> faults. 1) he could never gauge the correct amount of effort for a project,

> so he'd work his heart out on everything, overthink solutions, and spend far

> too much time solving every detail, when his boss asked for the big picture

> only. B) He would treat people at work as thinking tools, not humans. He

> almost never socialized with " the guys " unless it was forced on him. In all

> the years we had kids (15 before the separation) we went to *one* family

> holiday event, because he didn't like them (the kids and I did). Never went

> to the adult social events, either.

>

>> 3. How come his parents had no idea what he had when the symptoms are more

> prominent in men as little boys? Why are most men diagnosed at such a late

> age?

>

> Because Asperger's didn't exist when they were little! Of course people were

> Aspies, but the condition was not recognized, and when it was, it was

> diagnosed only in completely dysfunctional people. When I first

> self-diagnosed I told my mom, who was best friends with Sylvia Rimland (wife

> of prominent autism researcher Bernie Rimland.) Without even talking to me,

> Bernie and Sylvia said I couldn't be Aspie because I was married and living

> a normal life. This was in the late 1990s.

>

>> 4. How come he doesn't like or enjoy sex at all even though I know he

> loves me? I've seen a lot of Aspie men have issues sexual inappropriateness,

> or not knowing boundaries, but I actually wish he would be a little

> inappropriate? Before I thought it was Asperger's I thought he was gay or

> was sexually abused as child (all was negative except Aspergers)?

>

> This has *nothing* to do with AS! stbx was oversexed . much of the reason

> for the divorce was that he was on the down low (cheating with men) for 10

> year. When I found out, he told me he'd be faithful -- 6 months later I

> found hard evidence of two hookups, and a possible third.

>

>> 5. How do I maintain my close relationship with my family with his

> Asperger's when he doesn't want to come with me or he makes it uncomfortable

> to be there so we always have to leave early?

>

> Go alone. Or make sure he brings a book or laptop and give him space to be

> asocial.

>

>> 6. How come when we have a guest, he actually makes breakfast instead of

> waiting for me to wake up to make it like he usually does? (he'll wait all

> day if he has to until I wake up and I start to make something, then he says

> he's hungry too). So everyone thinks I'm crazy cause he's so good to me and

> spoils me? This is why I love guests, cause everything he needs to do around

> the house gets done, and I can actually get him to say yes to going to

> Costco with me.

>

> Have you asked him?

>

> I think a lot of men, especially Aspie men, forget that their wives are

> human beings. They seem to classify us as self-aware household appliances.

> We have to find ways to keep reminding them (nicely) that we are people too,

> just like everyone else.

>

>

>> 8. He used to throw out the garbage, but I did it once, and ever since

> then he will never throw out the garbage, why does he do that, is it cause

> he thinks I can do it so he doesn't need to, is it cause he likes rodents,

> or is it cause the garbage bin is within walking distance?

>

> 1) The household appliance is so great, she can learn new skills! and 2)

> he's Aspie enough that the sarcasm goes right over his head and he *does*

> like rodents.

>

>> 9. Why does he have break things when he's set off or screams? Why can't

> he just say he's angry rather than scaring me with his yelling or road rage?

>

> I think this is built into the Y chromosome. Seriously, I know quite a few

> very NT men who do this.

>

>> 10. Why does he think money grows on trees when we don't have that much

> money?

>> 11. Why does he try to impress his parents or buy their love by buying

> them things we can't afford for ourselves, r giving them money we don't

> have, when he doesn't want to visit his parents without me?

>> 12. why can't he just put things back where he found it instead breaking

> things to make them fit or messing up 2 days worth of cleaning that I

> cleaned, why can't he clean he house?

>> 13. why does he answer all my questions with " I don't know " or he ignores

> me but if I ignore or answer him with I don't know he has a tantrum?

>

> These all sound like specific incidents . and these issues happen with all

> couples.

>

>> 14. How come he's not afraid that I will find someone else to fulfill my

> sexual desires because he doesn't want to make love?I would be afraid of him

> finding someone else if I didn't fulfill his needs.

>

> Stop me before I go off on an anthropological lecture on how monogamy is

> cultural, and how many Aspies don't fully understand this aspect of culture,

> and how many polyamorists are well-adjusted Aspies who don't care to follow

> cultural norms of sexuality.

>

> Summary: he may well not care if you take a lover; he may be polyamorous and

> not get jealous.

>

>> 15. why is it when he's sick my world has to come to a stop because all

> his needs have to be taken care of but when I'm sick he's happy cause he

> gets to play ps3 or surf the net without me bothering me, when all I want is

> a glass of water. But if his parents or sister is sick he bends over

> backwards going to the pharmacy to find everything they need or he searches

> online for information on their symptoms? It's like I'm superwoman and me

> being sick is not the end of his world.

>

> Household appliances don't get sick. And you always get better, no? (yes,

> this is heavy sarcasm)

>

>> 18. How come he can't tell me or explain why he loves me?

>

> Because his brain doesn't work that way. He shows he loves you by sharing

> his life with you.

>

>> 19. Why does he get disappointed and sad when I stop making all the effort

> to be thoughtful and romantic, but I'm not allowed to be upset when he

> doesn't do much thoughtful or romantic things for me?

>

> He knows he needs love, but needs to be hit with a 2 by 4 to realize you are

> not a household appliance.

>

>

> Sorry for the snarky sarcasm; I'm in an odd mood tonight. It does sound like

> he's taking you for granted, and SOMETHING needs to snap him out of that.

> It's not unique to AS men, all sorts of men can do this -- but AS makes it

> even harder to snap him out.

>

> I do know about this . the day before I got the restraining order, stbx

> screamed at me for 45 minutes because I didn't help him clean the yard

> (covered in 3 feet of snow) and instead did nothing. [i was in school

> meetings and kid activities all day, except when I was cooking dinner.] He

> then told me to kill myself because he'd do better without me. Why was he

> cleaning the yard? Because a caseworker from social services was coming

> because someone called them that our kids were suffering " abuse and neglect

> by the father. " Once they found out I had gotten a restraining order

> throwing him out, they dropped the case.

>

> --Liz

>

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> Can I send this link to my daughter?

> Deb

Send the link to anyone, without permission. Send them to my website as well.

Tell them to buy something from my Zazzle shop, or a Knit Suite iPhone app, or

anything from any of my Squidoo lenses. Or, I'd be overjoyed if they need a

small business website and hired me!

Seriously, my divorce has left me feeling much freer but very cash-strapped.

Polymath Solution is my company and my income generator. I hate asking friends

for money, but if anything I do strikes your fancy, and you feel you are getting

good value, go ahead and buy something.

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Thanks Liz,I’ll check out your site.Deb From: aspires-relationships [mailto:aspires-relationships ] On Behalf Of Liz CademySent: December-08-11 6:41 PMTo: aspires-relationships Subject: Re: Questions > Can I send this link to my daughter?> DebSend the link to anyone, without permission. Send them to my website as well. Tell them to buy something from my Zazzle shop, or a Knit Suite iPhone app, or anything from any of my Squidoo lenses. Or, I'd be overjoyed if they need a small business website and hired me!Seriously, my divorce has left me feeling much freer but very cash-strapped. Polymath Solution is my company and my income generator. I hate asking friends for money, but if anything I do strikes your fancy, and you feel you are getting good value, go ahead and buy something.--Liz----------Cartesian Bear at Zazzle: Shirts and Gifts: http://www.zazzle.com/cartesianbear?rf=238831668488066559Zazzle Coupons: http://www.zazzle.com/coupons?rf=238831668488066559 Knit Suite: Mobile Apps for Knitters http://knitsuite.polymathsolution.comGifts for Knitters: http://www.squidoo.com/gifts-for-knitters

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Liz Cademy wrote:

>

>

>> LOL Deb yeh with hubby too he says no a lot, and then in the end

>> sometimes yes, I haven't figured it out either let me know if you

>> do.

[ snip ]

> Much of this is because Aspies tend to have slower processing speed

> than NTs -- we not less intelligent, we just think a bit slower.

[ snip ]

Hm. I've heard that (... " slower " ...). ly, I don't believe it.

Please, can you point me to some trustworthy documentation?

- Bill ...AS, 79

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> Liz Cademy wrote:

>>

>>> LOL Deb yeh with hubby too he says no a lot, and then in the end

>>> sometimes yes, I haven't figured it out either let me know if you

>>> do.

> [ snip ]

>> Much of this is because Aspies tend to have slower processing speed

>> than NTs -- we not less intelligent, we just think a bit slower.

> [ snip ]

>

> Hm. I've heard that (... " slower " ...). ly, I don't believe it.

> Please, can you point me to some trustworthy documentation?

Bill, I don't have documentation, only personal anecdotal evidence and hearsay.

I'm plenty smart … I don't have an IQ* but if I did, it would be way up there.

Not bragging, just the truth.

However, I have noticed that while I think deeply, I don't think particularly

quickly. Especially when it comes to conversations, I'm frequently left far

behind in the talk stream while thinking about what to say.

It's not severe enough to count as an impairment, but it is noticeable.

Especially when put on the spot to answer quick questions, which is why I tend

to say " no " . . . it buys me time to think.

--Liz

* IQ is nothing more than a test score, on a test that tries to determine

general intelligence. I've never taken an IQ test, thus I have no IQ score.

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Newland wrote:

> I watched the eclipse until 6am (from start through totality), then

> scuttled off to watch Ari do his thing. Too bad you didn't catch the

> latter - I'd have loved to hear your take on it.

>

> Hi Bill:

>

> I was unable to listen due to computer issues. How was it and what is your

take?

Not much to say. It was typical of the genre: " a dozen " experts around

a table talking to each other via Power Point slides in a sparsely

attended 6-hour session. A screen above the podium allowed the small

audience (and us on-line) to see the slides as well as the speakers.

The video feed was OK, generally, ...competently managed at least. The

*audio* management was horrible (nearly inaudible to blasting). I " got "

maybe 3/4ths of the spoken words, sometimes barely.

Individual speakers were mercifully brief, and generally well prepared.

Ne'eman was a competent chairman throughout. A " working " lunch break

near noon their time wasn't broadcast (my screen went blank).

At the beginning everything was old-hat - existing regulations, etc -

sort of reminders of what everyone knew, establishing a baseline and

premises for what would come later.

Then came individual viewpoints - very diverse - from narrow pet

concerns to desiderata for a master approach to autism. Nothing new in

any of it.

The most interesting parts to me:

A federal agency rep explained federal government desires and

realities, her own agency's anyway, and

An academic explained the realities of research generally, and

autism research in particular.

Each was gratifyingly forthcoming in answering questions both from the

audience, and from the panelists.

I was intrigued by the general reaction to the academic. Both the

audience and the panel revealed more ignorance and naiveté about

research, *especially* autism research, than I'd imagined possible in an

" involved " community.

It wasn't wasted time for anyone, I think. Factually, I learned nothing

new. My special gain was seeing and hearing people, some of whom I'd

known previously only by name.

- Bill ...AS, 79

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