Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 In a message dated 3/13/00 9:09:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, onelist writes: << But wouldn't it stand to reason that because 'Pro is so much stronger than 'Cal, 1 scoop of the 'Pro could be just as effective as 2 scoops of the 'Cal? >> Yes, it would stand to reason. If you are a Cheney 'purist', then go up to 2 scoops. I don't think I will ever make it that high. Bottom line is if you improve on 5 grams a day, and can't tolerate going any higher, so what, you've gotten better. As for Carol, she is a test member, so she has agreed to 'try' to get to two scoops. Just remember, Cheney had some people on 60 grams or more of Immunocal, so that would equal 20 grams of 'Pro if 'Pro is three times as strong (did that work out right?) basically, you want to try to take as much as possible without any bad side effects. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 I am looking for someone in the SF Bay Area that can come inspect our house and provide possible remediation. This would be for any toxic/carcinogenic substances as well as mold etc. We need a complete inspection including air ducts. Thanks -- ******************* Brodsky 1-Host Web Hosting and Virtual Servers http://www.1-host.com rbro@... 1-800-978-9911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 MY HOUSE HAS BEEN GUTTED. I HAD A MAN THAT WAS ON CHANNEL 2 LAST NIGHT TO COME OVER TO SEE IF MY FURNITURE IS CONTAMINED. I JUST NEED A DOCTOR. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY IN THE BAYTOWN OR HOUSTON AREA? -----Original Message----- From: 1-Host Marketing [mailto:marketing@...] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 750 I am looking for someone in the SF Bay Area that can come inspect our house and provide possible remediation. This would be for any toxic/carcinogenic substances as well as mold etc. We need a complete inspection including air ducts. Thanks -- ******************* Brodsky 1-Host Web Hosting and Virtual Servers http://www.1-host.com rbro@... 1-800-978-9911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Our company Envirosafe test indoor air quality, " sick " building-home syndrome, building related illnesses, in schools, homes, and buildings across the country. We recently completed a project at the Jedda airport in Saudi Arabia. We have implemented the EPA'S tools for schools program at schools in ten different states. Our sampling methodology is very thorough. We specialize in mold, Vocs, combustion gases, etc. We do not test for lead or asbestos. We will be in L.A. in a couple of weeks. We would be glad to assist you with your inspection. There are not that many qualified CIH'S, CIE'S or IAQT'S that perform residential investigations. This is our specialty. Please call us to discuss your inspection. Lane Allman Envirosafe Indoor Environmental Services 1-877-504-5652 rallman@... ----- Original Message ----- From: 1-Host Marketing <marketing@...> < > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 750 > I am looking for someone in the SF Bay Area that can come inspect our house > and provide possible remediation. This would be for any toxic/carcinogenic > substances as well as mold etc. We need a complete inspection including air > ducts. > > Thanks > -- > ******************* > Brodsky > 1-Host Web Hosting and Virtual Servers > http://www.1-host.com > rbro@... > 1-800-978-9911 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 hi guys < sorry i have not been in lately but i am having computer problems lately i miss everyone of you and am looking forward to getting back in the room with you. james >From: dwarfism >Reply-dwarfism >dwarfism >Subject: Digest Number 750 >Date: 16 Feb 2001 10:20:23 -0000 > > >Looking to unsubscribe? Don't e-mail the list! Just send a blank e-mail to >dwarfism-unsubscribe >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >There are 18 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. I know you..and you know me. > From: " patrick o'connell " <Lilfreak57@...> > 2. Dating/Dances - Bring that Date!!!! > From: Cyndi0115@... > 3. aging graciously-joke... > From: " Secrets " <secrets48@...> > 4. books on " interspacial " couples? > From: D <lilmoxy2000@...> > 5. Re: So, I'm a regular size guy who wants a little woman. Is that >a bad thing? > From: gradysir@... > 6. Interspacialogy. hehe > From: gradysir@... > 7. Replying to the Polls? > From: HelenJW@... > 8. Re: Replying to the Polls? > From: Bradford <dbradfor@...> > 9. Smiling :-):-):-) > From: HelenJW@... > 10. dwarf calendar updated w/ several events > From: " Danny Black, PMS " <dhblack@...> > 11. adoption page updated > From: " Danny Black, PMS " <dhblack@...> > 12. Re: Replying to the Polls? > From: RMBJustice@... > 13. Hello everyone > From: Babym0veurbutt@... > 14. Re: I know you..and you know me. > From: gradysir@... > 15. Re: Re: I know you..and you know me. > From: MissWigglesUSA@... > 16. Is This " Days of Dwarf's Lives? " > From: FishesandDreams@... > 17. Re: Re: I know you..and you know me. > From: " Karin Redston " <kitties77@...> > 18. Lonliness, Dating, High School Etc. > From: brettpaza@... > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:47:27 > From: " patrick o'connell " <Lilfreak57@...> >Subject: I know you..and you know me. > >Mr.Gradysir, > >As I surfed through the Sunday's listserv, I came across your Cupid >notation >Knowning of the other party you swoon for with such gratuitious admiration >Yet funny as it may sound, a portion of me was somewhat relieved >To find my once other half is as bubbley as thee >But still unsettled pain was to rise as I continued to read into the Cupid >climatic surprise >I knew your courtship was developing quite fast >Little did I know a gentleman's announcement was soon to surpass >Humdrum with respect I wish you a flourishing relations >With someone I've loved amongst all our martial altercations > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:06:11 EST > From: Cyndi0115@... >Subject: Dating/Dances - Bring that Date!!!! > >I am coming in at the end of this query about asking the school to bring a >date to the dance. I know of several lps young men and women that have >flown >in an lp mate to attend dances, proms etc. I would most definitely ask >that >you be able to bring another lp person to the dance/function and don't take >no for an answer. I know in junior high (I am showing my age) and high >school that I did not get asked to dances or out on dates and what a >wonderful thing to be able to bring along a date and I don't care if other >people are miffed or upset because I got something special - I am different >and I didn't get asked out like most of my friends. So you go right ahead >and ask the school to allow you to bring a date and there should be no >reason >they deny that request - because we lp's are not like other people - and >yes >there are average size people also that don't get asked out due to whatever >circumstances (it's not up to me to take care of them) - but my motto is >take >care of yourself and take that date to the dance - there is nothing like >dancing with someone of your own stature - I know for me it felt >spectacular. > I also was taught not to worry about what other people think and that >it's >none of my business what other people think of me. The young lady would >not >be hurting anyone only taking care of herself - life is too short for >anyone >to worry how they might get other people ticked. So anyone please do not >give up on taking your friend to the dance. - Cyndi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Aloha, Kit, On my first challenge, I lost 8% bodyfat, lowered my cholesterol 38 points and my doc cut my asthma medication in half! That really delighted me. However, I've backslid since then and gained some weight. I'm having a difficult time sticking to the diet. I need to seriously think about my goals, and write them down. I know I want to keep going in the direction I was going on my first challenge, and get my cholesterol to a really safe level. I saw your photos. Great work! Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 ' ' wrote: ==== - Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with - the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the - opinion of the Research Institute. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - There are 6 messages in this issue. - - Topics in this digest: - - 1. Re: Re: blood tests/immunology - From: tammie gustafson-radican <tsradican@...> - 2. Re: OT: CARD - ...' > Take a look to the attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Good letter, Dawn! If I were him, I'd be checking everyone's personnel file and finding out who else in his company takes these mind-altering poisons! I wish I believed it was JUST the small percentage of people who take these drugs -- the poor metabolozers -- who were at risk. Any drug that fundamentally changes who you are (according to Dr. Kramer) cannot be a good thing, and can only have unpredictable results. He could have potentially hundreds of psychic landmines in his company. Glitter, author of <A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 hello everybody, it has been a long time since I posted. there have been a few things I intended to reply to, but the one about airport security finally got me. shortly after 9/11, I set off airport alarms, but haven't recently. I do think they upped the sensitivity too much. When I am wanded, my back sets off the alarm. Definitely not bra hooks as I wasn't wearing a bra. They could tell exactly where my rods were by using the alarm. I do travel with a photo of my back xray, but they have to do the wand thing anyway. beds? I have a waterbed. The chiropractor that workman's comp sent me to said that I should get rid of the waterbed and try a firm mattress. However, I have noticed that when I travel, firm hotel beds are much more uncomfortable. The waterbed is only uncomfortabel if my husband is sleeping on the other side. If we sleep with our backs up against each other (with me mostly leaning on him), then I have much less discomfort. swimming? I prefer the sidestroke. No need to put my head under water. I never could do the rotary breathing, even as a young child before scoliosis. dancing? up until recently, this was one of my favorite forms of exercise. fortunately, I prefer caribbean music, and being bent slightly forward with the knees bent is very natural for reggae. most people are surprised to find that I have rods in my back, but the hip movements are really a result of shifting the weight and bending the knees. I just have to modify the " dollar wine " movement as I can't make my pelvis move forwards and backwards (which sometimes prompts people to ask me if I am able to have sex--so far there have been no complaints from hubby, but I suspect that others that can do that motion might have an advantage). rib hump? I don't have one as far as I know, but I think it is natural for one breast to be slightly smaller than the other. I know that feet are seldom the same size and I don't think any of the pairs of things we have are exactly congruent. pain? it seems to be increasing daily. I used to have a grinding pain on the left side near the SI joints. the pain would travel down my leg and go away after a good night's sleep. About a year ago, my left heel started hurting a lot. I assumed it was because I was having to be on my feet, and would tend to lean against a wall with my feet in front of me (I taught first grade last year and had to walk them everywhere and then wait while everybody went to the bathroom). I expected the pain to go away during the summer while I didn't have to stay on my feet, but it did not. The podiatrist was quite surprised to find that it was " just inflammation " and probably caused by a change in gait. He gave me some inserts for my shoes and they helped for about a day. That was some of the most intense pain I have experienced and it makes walking extremely difficult. I saw the local adult scoliosis specialist last summer and he was not in favor of corrective surgery. He sent me for physical therapy (with a diagnosis of surgically induced kyphosis), but that didn't really help. I figured I would just have to learn to live with pain, since that is what the other non-specialists suggested ( " you know, you have to expect more pain as you age " but the women in my family have all lived to be 98, so 50 more years of pain doesn't have much appeal). I had an accident at work in November. The chair I was sitting in broke, and I landed on my back on the concrete floor. The workman's comp doctor gave me some medicine that worked like a miracle on the pain--etodolac. He just told me that it was a NSAID, and should be ok to take 3 times a day. Once a day actually did the trick, but I developed asthma and tested positive for bilirubin in the urine. My PCP said the abnormal urine test could be from the medicine, and that I should try to take less of it. He did give me a prescription for it, but it came with a big warning sticker that it could cause drowsiness. So that is why I kept falling asleep and almost flunked out of grad school?? I had thought maybe it was taking a very long time to recover from the mono that I caught last spring when a first grader drooled on me. so, the specialist that workman's comp sent me to (a neurosurgeon) gave me some vioxx. my insurance will not pay for vioxx, and after taking the samples for a week, I was in horrible pain, so I definitely did not want to pay for it myself. my PCP gave me a prescription for another NSAID, but it doesn't work as well as the etodolac did. meanwhile, workman's comp doesn't know what to do about my claim. Before the accident, I only had the pain on the left side. After the accident, I started having pain on the right side, closer to my spine. I have a not-so-horizontal bar across my pelvis and was worried that it may have come loose. I do feel something moving in there when I drive over a bump in the road, or move my right leg. They don't think it is the rod, but now the pain on my left side has intensified quite a bit and it feels to me more like the rod is irritating rather than the SI joint grinding. the workman's comp guy told me that the neurosurgeon rated me at 8% permanent disability, but then they sent me to someone who seems to specialize in disability ratings. After a very cursory exam, he rated me at 0% disability. He seemed to think that the flatback syndrome was the cause of all of my pain rather than the fall. I really don't care what is causing the pain. what concerns me is that the pain is getting worse and I am getting less and less accomplished. When my back hurts like hell after gardening, I can understand that. But it has been hurting all the time--sitting, standing, walking, reclining, sleeping--it doesn't matter. I took two pills today and it still hurts. I took a flexiril sunday night--they used to knock me out, but I still kept waking up in pain but my brain was too fuzzy to think with. I tried to get workman's comp to send me to the scoliosis specialist that I saw last summer, but he has a reputation for being eager to operate, so they don't want to send me there. the neurosurgeon said that if the scoli guy had thought I was operable, he would have tried to get me scheduled for surgery quickly. The neurosurgeon and the chiropractor (also courtesy of workman's comp) both agreed that the horizontal bar across the pelvis was very unusual and they would be scared to try to remove it. I called Dr. LaGrone's office and was told they only see patients who are referred by other doctors when they are ready for surgery, so I called the Texas Back Institute and have an appointment there next month. I am not sure that I really want to have surgery, but I am tired of being in pain. I think the last straw was when I tried to go dancing a couple of weeks ago. There has not been much caribbean music in town this year, and I have not gone out of town since a vacation to the bahamas last summer. I love the bahamas and did not get any rest at all while I was there. In fact, I wore a hole in the heel of my left shoe from all the walking during the day, then dancing half the night (and without any kind of pain medicine). Last summer, I dug a 16 foot wide hole in my back yard, and planted about 150 feet of garden along my fence border. I rode my bike, exercised, and generally enjoyed my summer. This year, I went dancing one night, and was only able to dance for about half of a song before sitting back down. I have tried to supervise my 12 year old son (who is grounded anyway and needs to see that doing homework is easier than physical labour) into doing the gardening, but it is frustrating. One reason I garden is because I enjoy digging in the dirt. Sunday, I dug out a sewing project, thinking that it would be relatively easy on my back, but by the end of the day, I was crying and in enough pain to search out the flexiril (I have averaged about one of them every other year up until now). At least I am not teaching first grade anymore. I moved to high school where my students can walk to the bathroom alone, and between sitting by the overhead projector to teach math, and walking around the room I get the variety of movement that I need to keep from getting too sore in any one position. It is awfully hard to stand up if I have been sitting for even 30 minutes. My uncle told his wife that he was tired of being in pain and went outside and shot himself last week. I think I am the only person in the family who was not shocked and horrified at his extreme response. (but don't worry--my kids are too young for me to seriously consider that option) I feel like a real whiner and a crybaby after writing all this. Maybe I should have just stuck to responding to some of the things I have read lately. oh yeah, another form of exercise that I enjoy is bicycling. The exercise bikes are very uncomfortable, but my 10 speed is very comfortable. I think the leaning forward angle is just right for my back. I just haven't been able to do that much since going back to graduate school. Also, I have to be at work by 7 AM, so don't have any daylight to ride before work. After work, I am in too much pain. It has been raining in the morning all but one of my days off so far, but I am looking forward to trying again when the road isn't wet. and for those who are interested in the details of the original harrington rod surgery, it was in 1973. my xrays are posted in the photo section of the feisty website, and on my own space at http://members.cox.net/bahadreama/scoliosis.htm I really need to resize them so folks on dial up can view them more easily . . . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Oh, dear, SB, I can't believe Dr. LaGrone would refuse to see you if he could see the x-rays and in-cast pic that I've seen of you! It was a while ago, but when I mailed him my x-rays he replied with a very courteous letter and invited me to contact him if he could be of any further help. It may be that he has become excessively busy lately, and doesn't want to do lots of second and third opinions just to have someone else do the surgery. But you're clearly someone who NEEDS his special expertise; you're not just another scoliosis patient. I strongly suggest that you at least mail him copies of the x-rays you have, and that in-cast photo would be a good idea too, IMO. I was aghast at it; I can imagine he would take one look and know you're in serious pain. I'll be surprised if he doesn't contact you to offer to see you. Please keep us updated on how you do. Sharon Re: Digest Number 750 I called Dr. LaGrone's office and was told they only see patients who are referred by other doctors when they are ready for surgery, so I called the Texas Back Institute and have an appointment there next month. I am not sure that I really want to have surgery, but I am tired of being in pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 I also was turned away by Dr. LaGrone. Fortunately I found other excellent surgeons and am happy with my current condition following five more revision surgeries. He had planned to " revise me, " but my insurance was not satisfactory to one of his office staffers. A year later, when I had lined up topnotch insurance at last, I was told that the trip to Amarillo would not be advisable in view of my condition. I ended up traveling to Boston instead. I am still not sure who, exactly, was responsible for giving me the old heave-ho, whether Dr. LG himself or the employee in question. I also had a disappointing experience with a physician's assistant working with a revision surgeon in Whittier, California. I no longer recommend that surgeon to anyone after the inhospitable reception I got from her practice. Re: Digest Number 750 I called Dr. LaGrone's office and was told they only see patients who are referred by other doctors when they are ready for surgery, so I called the Texas Back Institute and have an appointment there next month. I am not sure that I really want to have surgery, but I am tired of being in pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Dear Parents, I plan to make myself available to assist with homeschooling small groups of kids anywhere I am needed for those who decide to take their children out of school, especially if it is a special needs population, dyslexic, ADD, ADhd, Autism Spectrum etc.My web is www.betterschoolresults.com As long as I get a group and I can afford to stay somewhere I will assist.Many have not previously homeschooled. If you can speak with other like minded parents you can contact me.Take care, On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM, <no-forced-vaccination > wrote: NSF-Compulsory-Vaccination Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1a. Re: OT From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 1b. Re: OT From: ann brandenberger 2a. state decision From: vbhomeprogram 2b. Re: state decision From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 3a. Re: UK Neurologists warned Swine Flu Vaccine can caus... From: Dann Murray 4a. Current status swine flu state policies????? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 5a. Re: International Swine Flu Conference From: Dann Murray 6a. Re: SPREADING POLIO WITH VACCINES, THEY ARE ADMITTING IT!! From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 7a. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 7b. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 8a. Re: Children and the upcoming school year From: Dann Murray 9a. Re: religious exemption after manatory vaccination. From: Alan 10a. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: Dann Murray 10b. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: ann brandenberger 11a. Re: detox? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 11b. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11c. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11d. Re: detox? From: LP66@... 12a. Re: URGENT!! Detox vaccine with green laser From: Dann Murray 13. Re: Good news... From: Dann Murray 14. Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals co From: peop96532004 15a. Re: States will make vaccine mandatory: Must act NOW to prevent it. From: Van Dalinda 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 From: themiddleapostle 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine From: Kirk McLoren 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co From: garystuart View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: OT Posted by: " Alan Foossolvesunified.com " cusanusnicolas@...  cusanusnicolas Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:47 am (PDT) That's a good question. I try to go with the instinct for self survival, physically. I then also figure that having given that a good try, I can look forward to seeing Heaven when that fails (maybe?). The hardest part may be that to qualify for that I'm supposed to lead others to the Kingdom. And I couldn't give away gold coins on a busy stree! Ok, you made me think. I'll try this one: " Gentlemen, I must warn you that if you terminate my physical being, by the grace of God I will live forever in paradise. You, on the other hand, will be damned forever. Repent now, cease and desist, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, or it may be too late for you. " I dunno. You could try this one, " Please, please, men, do NOT give me that vaccine, I cite my rights under the Nuremburg code that protect me against involuntary medical procedures. " You must respect those rights or be tried as a war criminal. How about using both ideas? Or you could tell them to hold on for a minute, then run like hell through the back door. Or stand your ground and use Kung Foos on the buggars. Anyone got any better ideas? ________________________________From: 100%organic <billfing@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:22:02 AMSubject: Re: OT Ok, Thought about it... And now what? Should I tell this to the soldiers and the doctor standing next to him at my doorstep with the injection in his hand while the solider pointing his loaded weapon to my head while they forcing vaccination at gun point? Ha...>>> Yes. There is something you are forgetting. We have a narrow window of> opportunity to turn this mandatory vaccine thing around: Why not activate > every single parent you can reach in your school, and the teachers and> others who work there, to make sure that there will be no vaccination on a> mandatory basis in your schools: Go to> http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27275and get busy. There's not much time before school begins. IF the states > declare mandatory vaccination, and that is clearly the plan, there will be> no nice discussions with the school nurse: your kids WILL be vaccinated> without exemption.> Let's make sure that no child is faced with this deadly vaccine, nor are > we.> Yours in health and freedom,> Dr.Rima>> >>> We are facing States declaring mandatory vaccination as I have been saying > for some time (see, for example, http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3279 ).> What that means is either you take the toxic, squalene adjuvanted witch's > brew designed to make you very sick and worse, or you face incarceration.>> We have the opportunity, IF WE ACT NOW and IF WE ACT TOGETHER, to change> that. Right now, without delay, please, for your sake and the sake of all > of us, go to http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/> campaign.jsp?campaign_ KEY=27275<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/%20campaign.jsp?campaign_%20KEY=27275> > and tell your State and Federal lawmakers, the Secretary of HHS, the> Secretary of DHS, your Governor and the White House that you DEMAND the> right to say " NO! " to this deadly vaccine. And it surely will be deadly. > The vaccine being tested around the country now has no squalene. The tests> being conducted now are NOT for safety. They are for dose response.> The FDA has said that they would approve the vaccine WITH SQUALENE before > any safety tests have been carried out although squalene adjuvants have been> rejected in the US because they were too dangerous to even test!> What has changed? Is the type of oil-in-water adjuvant which the US says is > not necessary and that it does not want to use but which WHO is requiring> (!), and which the US somehow spent over a billion dollars on last month (!)> suddenly less likely to cause the type of crippling auto immune disease that > it caused in Gulf War Syndrome sufferers?> Is squalene suddenly good for us when injected, turning on the immune> system so that there is no way to prevent it from attacking every tissue in> the body except for massive doses of deadly drugs ($$$$$$$$) until finally > the body gives up any attempt to have a functioning immune system?>> If you wait, you may find yourself staring at the empty barrel of a syringe> which has just injected some of the most potent poisons known into your body > or your child's or riding on a FEMA train or a " Black h " on the way to> incarceration.>> Let me say it again, and again and again: this vaccination, if mandatory,> will have NO exemptions, none, zero, nada, nunca. Not religious, medical, > philosophical, nothing. So take the time now to join the tide of people who> are swelling the email boxes to tell our legislators and other decision> makers that we will not accept this false choice. Right now, 1,424,940 > emails have been sent saying what we will, and what we will not, accept in> terms of forced vaccination.> Is this issue important enough to spend a few minutes sending one email for> each person in you household. And is it important enough to take a few > minutes more to send it forward to every single whom you can reach and ask> them to do the same.>> Natural Solutions Foundation knows that the more of these emails that go> out, the more likely it is that we can achieve some substantial push back. > We are literally embarking on a major new initiative even as I write this,> but we need your support to make our initiative stick!>> Act like your life depends upon this. It does.> Yours in health and freedom, > Dr. Rima> > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (10) 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 Posted by: " themiddleapostle " themiddleapostle@...  themiddleapostle Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:56 pm (PDT) Yesterday I attended a public engagement meeting of the CDC inBirmingham, AL. They started by feeding us a continental breakfast with coffee and juice. They discussed the meeting goals and agenda and gavean overview of the day. They said that some desicions had already beenmade, such as the vaccine is not mandatory, the amountof vaccine being manufactured, and the priority groups to receive the vaccine. They saidthat today we would have small group discussions as to whether thegovernment should " go slow " or take a moderate approach, or go " full throttle " with the H1N1 vaccine. He said there would be web dialogueson August 26-27 and August 31-September 1, 2009 at www.keystone.org/H1N1<http://www.keystone.org/H1N1> , www.ppc.unl.edu <http://www.ppc.unl.edu> , and www.webdialogues.net<http://www.webdialogues.net> . He said there would be stakeholder meetings in Washington, D.C. on Sept. 10th and 11th, 2009, and that theUniversity of Nebraska had a pre-test and a post-test for us and wouldcompose a final report on September 30, 2009. They said the vaccine was made from eggs (not green monkeys?) and people allergice to eggs couldnot take the vaccine. They showed us a video and a power point and thenthey opened it up for questions from the whole group. People askedquestions until lunch time. They told us to begin our small group discussions after lunch. I had brought a copy of the Dutch Associationfor Conscientious Vaccination independent study in December 1, 2004. Ishared it with our group facilitator during lunch. She seemed verysurprised by the results. http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results%20survey. pd\f <http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results% 20survey. pd\f>(The f must be below the link in order for the link to work.) Our groupended up taking the moderate approach. However, our facilitatorincluded all the concerns we had discussed when she gave our group report. Then they asked us to rate the options we considered. Theytook up the papers and asked for a show of hands as to how people wouldhave voted if the swine flu was more severe or less severe thanexpected. Then they opened it up for more questions, and finally told people they could put their questions on a note card and turn them in. They thanked everyone for coming and gave directions on getting their$50 stipend.That is basically what happened. Sorry it is so long. Lemoyen Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine Posted by: " Kirk McLoren " kirkmcloren@...  kirkmcloren Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message862082/pg1 9 page thread. Some startling info.Moshe did not send a threat to the White House. Rather, he communicatedthat he intended to go public with information he had regarding the fluvaccine that is being prepared by Baxter Labs, an Austrian company. The information is this: The vaccine is being manufactured in Ukraine.It is not a vaccine at all, but rather an engineered geneticallymutated bio-weapon meant to cause sickness and death. Moshe informedthe White House he intended to go public with this information. When he became aware that the FBI was about to detain him, he packed somebelongings in his car and set out for the Israeli consulate, located inclose proximity to the federal building where the standoff took place.FBI pursuit kept him from reaching his destination. Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will  Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co Posted by: " garystuart " @...  garystuart Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.infowars.com/cdc-h1n1-community-engagement-meetings-register-and-make-your-voice-heard/ What is interesting with The Posse Comitas no longer in effect in hte USA the Military is in chage of this emerging forced Vaccination Program? I'm no Christian but is seems to be The Mark of the Beast at play here..... Sincerely, FacilitatorGuy Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity  43 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. Need to Reply? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Dear Parents, I plan to make myself available to assist with homeschooling small groups of kids anywhere I am needed for those who decide to take their children out of school, especially if it is a special needs population, dyslexic, ADD, ADhd, Autism Spectrum etc.My web is www.betterschoolresults.com As long as I get a group and I can afford to stay somewhere I will assist.Many have not previously homeschooled. If you can speak with other like minded parents you can contact me.Take care, On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM, <no-forced-vaccination > wrote: NSF-Compulsory-Vaccination Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1a. Re: OT From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 1b. Re: OT From: ann brandenberger 2a. state decision From: vbhomeprogram 2b. Re: state decision From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 3a. Re: UK Neurologists warned Swine Flu Vaccine can caus... From: Dann Murray 4a. Current status swine flu state policies????? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 5a. Re: International Swine Flu Conference From: Dann Murray 6a. Re: SPREADING POLIO WITH VACCINES, THEY ARE ADMITTING IT!! From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 7a. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 7b. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 8a. Re: Children and the upcoming school year From: Dann Murray 9a. Re: religious exemption after manatory vaccination. From: Alan 10a. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: Dann Murray 10b. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: ann brandenberger 11a. Re: detox? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 11b. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11c. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11d. Re: detox? From: LP66@... 12a. Re: URGENT!! Detox vaccine with green laser From: Dann Murray 13. Re: Good news... From: Dann Murray 14. Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals co From: peop96532004 15a. Re: States will make vaccine mandatory: Must act NOW to prevent it. From: Van Dalinda 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 From: themiddleapostle 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine From: Kirk McLoren 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co From: garystuart View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: OT Posted by: " Alan Foossolvesunified.com " cusanusnicolas@...  cusanusnicolas Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:47 am (PDT) That's a good question. I try to go with the instinct for self survival, physically. I then also figure that having given that a good try, I can look forward to seeing Heaven when that fails (maybe?). The hardest part may be that to qualify for that I'm supposed to lead others to the Kingdom. And I couldn't give away gold coins on a busy stree! Ok, you made me think. I'll try this one: " Gentlemen, I must warn you that if you terminate my physical being, by the grace of God I will live forever in paradise. You, on the other hand, will be damned forever. Repent now, cease and desist, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, or it may be too late for you. " I dunno. You could try this one, " Please, please, men, do NOT give me that vaccine, I cite my rights under the Nuremburg code that protect me against involuntary medical procedures. " You must respect those rights or be tried as a war criminal. How about using both ideas? Or you could tell them to hold on for a minute, then run like hell through the back door. Or stand your ground and use Kung Foos on the buggars. Anyone got any better ideas? ________________________________From: 100%organic <billfing@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:22:02 AMSubject: Re: OT Ok, Thought about it... And now what? Should I tell this to the soldiers and the doctor standing next to him at my doorstep with the injection in his hand while the solider pointing his loaded weapon to my head while they forcing vaccination at gun point? Ha...>>> Yes. There is something you are forgetting. We have a narrow window of> opportunity to turn this mandatory vaccine thing around: Why not activate > every single parent you can reach in your school, and the teachers and> others who work there, to make sure that there will be no vaccination on a> mandatory basis in your schools: Go to> http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27275and get busy. There's not much time before school begins. IF the states > declare mandatory vaccination, and that is clearly the plan, there will be> no nice discussions with the school nurse: your kids WILL be vaccinated> without exemption.> Let's make sure that no child is faced with this deadly vaccine, nor are > we.> Yours in health and freedom,> Dr.Rima>> >>> We are facing States declaring mandatory vaccination as I have been saying > for some time (see, for example, http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3279 ).> What that means is either you take the toxic, squalene adjuvanted witch's > brew designed to make you very sick and worse, or you face incarceration.>> We have the opportunity, IF WE ACT NOW and IF WE ACT TOGETHER, to change> that. Right now, without delay, please, for your sake and the sake of all > of us, go to http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/> campaign.jsp?campaign_ KEY=27275<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/%20campaign.jsp?campaign_%20KEY=27275> > and tell your State and Federal lawmakers, the Secretary of HHS, the> Secretary of DHS, your Governor and the White House that you DEMAND the> right to say " NO! " to this deadly vaccine. And it surely will be deadly. > The vaccine being tested around the country now has no squalene. The tests> being conducted now are NOT for safety. They are for dose response.> The FDA has said that they would approve the vaccine WITH SQUALENE before > any safety tests have been carried out although squalene adjuvants have been> rejected in the US because they were too dangerous to even test!> What has changed? Is the type of oil-in-water adjuvant which the US says is > not necessary and that it does not want to use but which WHO is requiring> (!), and which the US somehow spent over a billion dollars on last month (!)> suddenly less likely to cause the type of crippling auto immune disease that > it caused in Gulf War Syndrome sufferers?> Is squalene suddenly good for us when injected, turning on the immune> system so that there is no way to prevent it from attacking every tissue in> the body except for massive doses of deadly drugs ($$$$$$$$) until finally > the body gives up any attempt to have a functioning immune system?>> If you wait, you may find yourself staring at the empty barrel of a syringe> which has just injected some of the most potent poisons known into your body > or your child's or riding on a FEMA train or a " Black h " on the way to> incarceration.>> Let me say it again, and again and again: this vaccination, if mandatory,> will have NO exemptions, none, zero, nada, nunca. Not religious, medical, > philosophical, nothing. So take the time now to join the tide of people who> are swelling the email boxes to tell our legislators and other decision> makers that we will not accept this false choice. Right now, 1,424,940 > emails have been sent saying what we will, and what we will not, accept in> terms of forced vaccination.> Is this issue important enough to spend a few minutes sending one email for> each person in you household. And is it important enough to take a few > minutes more to send it forward to every single whom you can reach and ask> them to do the same.>> Natural Solutions Foundation knows that the more of these emails that go> out, the more likely it is that we can achieve some substantial push back. > We are literally embarking on a major new initiative even as I write this,> but we need your support to make our initiative stick!>> Act like your life depends upon this. It does.> Yours in health and freedom, > Dr. Rima> > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (10) 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 Posted by: " themiddleapostle " themiddleapostle@...  themiddleapostle Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:56 pm (PDT) Yesterday I attended a public engagement meeting of the CDC inBirmingham, AL. They started by feeding us a continental breakfast with coffee and juice. They discussed the meeting goals and agenda and gavean overview of the day. They said that some desicions had already beenmade, such as the vaccine is not mandatory, the amountof vaccine being manufactured, and the priority groups to receive the vaccine. They saidthat today we would have small group discussions as to whether thegovernment should " go slow " or take a moderate approach, or go " full throttle " with the H1N1 vaccine. He said there would be web dialogueson August 26-27 and August 31-September 1, 2009 at www.keystone.org/H1N1<http://www.keystone.org/H1N1> , www.ppc.unl.edu <http://www.ppc.unl.edu> , and www.webdialogues.net<http://www.webdialogues.net> . He said there would be stakeholder meetings in Washington, D.C. on Sept. 10th and 11th, 2009, and that theUniversity of Nebraska had a pre-test and a post-test for us and wouldcompose a final report on September 30, 2009. They said the vaccine was made from eggs (not green monkeys?) and people allergice to eggs couldnot take the vaccine. They showed us a video and a power point and thenthey opened it up for questions from the whole group. People askedquestions until lunch time. They told us to begin our small group discussions after lunch. I had brought a copy of the Dutch Associationfor Conscientious Vaccination independent study in December 1, 2004. Ishared it with our group facilitator during lunch. She seemed verysurprised by the results. http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results%20survey. pd\f <http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results% 20survey. pd\f>(The f must be below the link in order for the link to work.) Our groupended up taking the moderate approach. However, our facilitatorincluded all the concerns we had discussed when she gave our group report. Then they asked us to rate the options we considered. Theytook up the papers and asked for a show of hands as to how people wouldhave voted if the swine flu was more severe or less severe thanexpected. Then they opened it up for more questions, and finally told people they could put their questions on a note card and turn them in. They thanked everyone for coming and gave directions on getting their$50 stipend.That is basically what happened. Sorry it is so long. Lemoyen Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine Posted by: " Kirk McLoren " kirkmcloren@...  kirkmcloren Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message862082/pg1 9 page thread. Some startling info.Moshe did not send a threat to the White House. Rather, he communicatedthat he intended to go public with information he had regarding the fluvaccine that is being prepared by Baxter Labs, an Austrian company. The information is this: The vaccine is being manufactured in Ukraine.It is not a vaccine at all, but rather an engineered geneticallymutated bio-weapon meant to cause sickness and death. Moshe informedthe White House he intended to go public with this information. When he became aware that the FBI was about to detain him, he packed somebelongings in his car and set out for the Israeli consulate, located inclose proximity to the federal building where the standoff took place.FBI pursuit kept him from reaching his destination. Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will  Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co Posted by: " garystuart " @...  garystuart Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.infowars.com/cdc-h1n1-community-engagement-meetings-register-and-make-your-voice-heard/ What is interesting with The Posse Comitas no longer in effect in hte USA the Military is in chage of this emerging forced Vaccination Program? I'm no Christian but is seems to be The Mark of the Beast at play here..... Sincerely, FacilitatorGuy Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity  43 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. Need to Reply? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Dear Parents, I plan to make myself available to assist with homeschooling small groups of kids anywhere I am needed for those who decide to take their children out of school, especially if it is a special needs population, dyslexic, ADD, ADhd, Autism Spectrum etc.My web is www.betterschoolresults.com As long as I get a group and I can afford to stay somewhere I will assist.Many have not previously homeschooled. If you can speak with other like minded parents you can contact me.Take care, On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM, <no-forced-vaccination > wrote: NSF-Compulsory-Vaccination Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1a. Re: OT From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 1b. Re: OT From: ann brandenberger 2a. state decision From: vbhomeprogram 2b. Re: state decision From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 3a. Re: UK Neurologists warned Swine Flu Vaccine can caus... From: Dann Murray 4a. Current status swine flu state policies????? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 5a. Re: International Swine Flu Conference From: Dann Murray 6a. Re: SPREADING POLIO WITH VACCINES, THEY ARE ADMITTING IT!! From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 7a. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 7b. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 8a. Re: Children and the upcoming school year From: Dann Murray 9a. Re: religious exemption after manatory vaccination. From: Alan 10a. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: Dann Murray 10b. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: ann brandenberger 11a. Re: detox? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 11b. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11c. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11d. Re: detox? From: LP66@... 12a. Re: URGENT!! Detox vaccine with green laser From: Dann Murray 13. Re: Good news... From: Dann Murray 14. Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals co From: peop96532004 15a. Re: States will make vaccine mandatory: Must act NOW to prevent it. From: Van Dalinda 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 From: themiddleapostle 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine From: Kirk McLoren 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co From: garystuart View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: OT Posted by: " Alan Foossolvesunified.com " cusanusnicolas@...  cusanusnicolas Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:47 am (PDT) That's a good question. I try to go with the instinct for self survival, physically. I then also figure that having given that a good try, I can look forward to seeing Heaven when that fails (maybe?). The hardest part may be that to qualify for that I'm supposed to lead others to the Kingdom. And I couldn't give away gold coins on a busy stree! Ok, you made me think. I'll try this one: " Gentlemen, I must warn you that if you terminate my physical being, by the grace of God I will live forever in paradise. You, on the other hand, will be damned forever. Repent now, cease and desist, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, or it may be too late for you. " I dunno. You could try this one, " Please, please, men, do NOT give me that vaccine, I cite my rights under the Nuremburg code that protect me against involuntary medical procedures. " You must respect those rights or be tried as a war criminal. How about using both ideas? Or you could tell them to hold on for a minute, then run like hell through the back door. Or stand your ground and use Kung Foos on the buggars. Anyone got any better ideas? ________________________________From: 100%organic <billfing@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:22:02 AMSubject: Re: OT Ok, Thought about it... And now what? Should I tell this to the soldiers and the doctor standing next to him at my doorstep with the injection in his hand while the solider pointing his loaded weapon to my head while they forcing vaccination at gun point? Ha...>>> Yes. There is something you are forgetting. We have a narrow window of> opportunity to turn this mandatory vaccine thing around: Why not activate > every single parent you can reach in your school, and the teachers and> others who work there, to make sure that there will be no vaccination on a> mandatory basis in your schools: Go to> http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27275and get busy. There's not much time before school begins. IF the states > declare mandatory vaccination, and that is clearly the plan, there will be> no nice discussions with the school nurse: your kids WILL be vaccinated> without exemption.> Let's make sure that no child is faced with this deadly vaccine, nor are > we.> Yours in health and freedom,> Dr.Rima>> >>> We are facing States declaring mandatory vaccination as I have been saying > for some time (see, for example, http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3279 ).> What that means is either you take the toxic, squalene adjuvanted witch's > brew designed to make you very sick and worse, or you face incarceration.>> We have the opportunity, IF WE ACT NOW and IF WE ACT TOGETHER, to change> that. Right now, without delay, please, for your sake and the sake of all > of us, go to http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/> campaign.jsp?campaign_ KEY=27275<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/%20campaign.jsp?campaign_%20KEY=27275> > and tell your State and Federal lawmakers, the Secretary of HHS, the> Secretary of DHS, your Governor and the White House that you DEMAND the> right to say " NO! " to this deadly vaccine. And it surely will be deadly. > The vaccine being tested around the country now has no squalene. The tests> being conducted now are NOT for safety. They are for dose response.> The FDA has said that they would approve the vaccine WITH SQUALENE before > any safety tests have been carried out although squalene adjuvants have been> rejected in the US because they were too dangerous to even test!> What has changed? Is the type of oil-in-water adjuvant which the US says is > not necessary and that it does not want to use but which WHO is requiring> (!), and which the US somehow spent over a billion dollars on last month (!)> suddenly less likely to cause the type of crippling auto immune disease that > it caused in Gulf War Syndrome sufferers?> Is squalene suddenly good for us when injected, turning on the immune> system so that there is no way to prevent it from attacking every tissue in> the body except for massive doses of deadly drugs ($$$$$$$$) until finally > the body gives up any attempt to have a functioning immune system?>> If you wait, you may find yourself staring at the empty barrel of a syringe> which has just injected some of the most potent poisons known into your body > or your child's or riding on a FEMA train or a " Black h " on the way to> incarceration.>> Let me say it again, and again and again: this vaccination, if mandatory,> will have NO exemptions, none, zero, nada, nunca. Not religious, medical, > philosophical, nothing. So take the time now to join the tide of people who> are swelling the email boxes to tell our legislators and other decision> makers that we will not accept this false choice. Right now, 1,424,940 > emails have been sent saying what we will, and what we will not, accept in> terms of forced vaccination.> Is this issue important enough to spend a few minutes sending one email for> each person in you household. And is it important enough to take a few > minutes more to send it forward to every single whom you can reach and ask> them to do the same.>> Natural Solutions Foundation knows that the more of these emails that go> out, the more likely it is that we can achieve some substantial push back. > We are literally embarking on a major new initiative even as I write this,> but we need your support to make our initiative stick!>> Act like your life depends upon this. It does.> Yours in health and freedom, > Dr. Rima> > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (10) 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 Posted by: " themiddleapostle " themiddleapostle@...  themiddleapostle Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:56 pm (PDT) Yesterday I attended a public engagement meeting of the CDC inBirmingham, AL. They started by feeding us a continental breakfast with coffee and juice. They discussed the meeting goals and agenda and gavean overview of the day. They said that some desicions had already beenmade, such as the vaccine is not mandatory, the amountof vaccine being manufactured, and the priority groups to receive the vaccine. They saidthat today we would have small group discussions as to whether thegovernment should " go slow " or take a moderate approach, or go " full throttle " with the H1N1 vaccine. He said there would be web dialogueson August 26-27 and August 31-September 1, 2009 at www.keystone.org/H1N1<http://www.keystone.org/H1N1> , www.ppc.unl.edu <http://www.ppc.unl.edu> , and www.webdialogues.net<http://www.webdialogues.net> . He said there would be stakeholder meetings in Washington, D.C. on Sept. 10th and 11th, 2009, and that theUniversity of Nebraska had a pre-test and a post-test for us and wouldcompose a final report on September 30, 2009. They said the vaccine was made from eggs (not green monkeys?) and people allergice to eggs couldnot take the vaccine. They showed us a video and a power point and thenthey opened it up for questions from the whole group. People askedquestions until lunch time. They told us to begin our small group discussions after lunch. I had brought a copy of the Dutch Associationfor Conscientious Vaccination independent study in December 1, 2004. Ishared it with our group facilitator during lunch. She seemed verysurprised by the results. http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results%20survey. pd\f <http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results% 20survey. pd\f>(The f must be below the link in order for the link to work.) Our groupended up taking the moderate approach. However, our facilitatorincluded all the concerns we had discussed when she gave our group report. Then they asked us to rate the options we considered. Theytook up the papers and asked for a show of hands as to how people wouldhave voted if the swine flu was more severe or less severe thanexpected. Then they opened it up for more questions, and finally told people they could put their questions on a note card and turn them in. They thanked everyone for coming and gave directions on getting their$50 stipend.That is basically what happened. Sorry it is so long. Lemoyen Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine Posted by: " Kirk McLoren " kirkmcloren@...  kirkmcloren Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message862082/pg1 9 page thread. Some startling info.Moshe did not send a threat to the White House. Rather, he communicatedthat he intended to go public with information he had regarding the fluvaccine that is being prepared by Baxter Labs, an Austrian company. The information is this: The vaccine is being manufactured in Ukraine.It is not a vaccine at all, but rather an engineered geneticallymutated bio-weapon meant to cause sickness and death. Moshe informedthe White House he intended to go public with this information. When he became aware that the FBI was about to detain him, he packed somebelongings in his car and set out for the Israeli consulate, located inclose proximity to the federal building where the standoff took place.FBI pursuit kept him from reaching his destination. Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will  Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co Posted by: " garystuart " @...  garystuart Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.infowars.com/cdc-h1n1-community-engagement-meetings-register-and-make-your-voice-heard/ What is interesting with The Posse Comitas no longer in effect in hte USA the Military is in chage of this emerging forced Vaccination Program? I'm no Christian but is seems to be The Mark of the Beast at play here..... Sincerely, FacilitatorGuy Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity  43 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. Need to Reply? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Dear Parents, I plan to make myself available to assist with homeschooling small groups of kids anywhere I am needed for those who decide to take their children out of school, especially if it is a special needs population, dyslexic, ADD, ADhd, Autism Spectrum etc.My web is www.betterschoolresults.com As long as I get a group and I can afford to stay somewhere I will assist.Many have not previously homeschooled. If you can speak with other like minded parents you can contact me.Take care, On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM, <no-forced-vaccination > wrote: NSF-Compulsory-Vaccination Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1a. Re: OT From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 1b. Re: OT From: ann brandenberger 2a. state decision From: vbhomeprogram 2b. Re: state decision From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 3a. Re: UK Neurologists warned Swine Flu Vaccine can caus... From: Dann Murray 4a. Current status swine flu state policies????? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 5a. Re: International Swine Flu Conference From: Dann Murray 6a. Re: SPREADING POLIO WITH VACCINES, THEY ARE ADMITTING IT!! From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 7a. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 7b. Re: Swine flu " hotline " set up in Cape Town South Af... From: Dann Murray 8a. Re: Children and the upcoming school year From: Dann Murray 9a. Re: religious exemption after manatory vaccination. From: Alan 10a. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: Dann Murray 10b. Re: FW: The " Pandemic " Folly Cont'd From: ann brandenberger 11a. Re: detox? From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com 11b. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11c. Re: detox? From: Dann Murray 11d. Re: detox? From: LP66@... 12a. Re: URGENT!! Detox vaccine with green laser From: Dann Murray 13. Re: Good news... From: Dann Murray 14. Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals co From: peop96532004 15a. Re: States will make vaccine mandatory: Must act NOW to prevent it. From: Van Dalinda 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 From: themiddleapostle 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine From: Kirk McLoren 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co From: garystuart View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: OT Posted by: " Alan Foossolvesunified.com " cusanusnicolas@...  cusanusnicolas Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:47 am (PDT) That's a good question. I try to go with the instinct for self survival, physically. I then also figure that having given that a good try, I can look forward to seeing Heaven when that fails (maybe?). The hardest part may be that to qualify for that I'm supposed to lead others to the Kingdom. And I couldn't give away gold coins on a busy stree! Ok, you made me think. I'll try this one: " Gentlemen, I must warn you that if you terminate my physical being, by the grace of God I will live forever in paradise. You, on the other hand, will be damned forever. Repent now, cease and desist, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, or it may be too late for you. " I dunno. You could try this one, " Please, please, men, do NOT give me that vaccine, I cite my rights under the Nuremburg code that protect me against involuntary medical procedures. " You must respect those rights or be tried as a war criminal. How about using both ideas? Or you could tell them to hold on for a minute, then run like hell through the back door. Or stand your ground and use Kung Foos on the buggars. Anyone got any better ideas? ________________________________From: 100%organic <billfing@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:22:02 AMSubject: Re: OT Ok, Thought about it... And now what? Should I tell this to the soldiers and the doctor standing next to him at my doorstep with the injection in his hand while the solider pointing his loaded weapon to my head while they forcing vaccination at gun point? Ha...>>> Yes. There is something you are forgetting. We have a narrow window of> opportunity to turn this mandatory vaccine thing around: Why not activate > every single parent you can reach in your school, and the teachers and> others who work there, to make sure that there will be no vaccination on a> mandatory basis in your schools: Go to> http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27275and get busy. There's not much time before school begins. IF the states > declare mandatory vaccination, and that is clearly the plan, there will be> no nice discussions with the school nurse: your kids WILL be vaccinated> without exemption.> Let's make sure that no child is faced with this deadly vaccine, nor are > we.> Yours in health and freedom,> Dr.Rima>> >>> We are facing States declaring mandatory vaccination as I have been saying > for some time (see, for example, http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3279 ).> What that means is either you take the toxic, squalene adjuvanted witch's > brew designed to make you very sick and worse, or you face incarceration.>> We have the opportunity, IF WE ACT NOW and IF WE ACT TOGETHER, to change> that. Right now, without delay, please, for your sake and the sake of all > of us, go to http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/> campaign.jsp?campaign_ KEY=27275<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/%20campaign.jsp?campaign_%20KEY=27275> > and tell your State and Federal lawmakers, the Secretary of HHS, the> Secretary of DHS, your Governor and the White House that you DEMAND the> right to say " NO! " to this deadly vaccine. And it surely will be deadly. > The vaccine being tested around the country now has no squalene. The tests> being conducted now are NOT for safety. They are for dose response.> The FDA has said that they would approve the vaccine WITH SQUALENE before > any safety tests have been carried out although squalene adjuvants have been> rejected in the US because they were too dangerous to even test!> What has changed? Is the type of oil-in-water adjuvant which the US says is > not necessary and that it does not want to use but which WHO is requiring> (!), and which the US somehow spent over a billion dollars on last month (!)> suddenly less likely to cause the type of crippling auto immune disease that > it caused in Gulf War Syndrome sufferers?> Is squalene suddenly good for us when injected, turning on the immune> system so that there is no way to prevent it from attacking every tissue in> the body except for massive doses of deadly drugs ($$$$$$$$) until finally > the body gives up any attempt to have a functioning immune system?>> If you wait, you may find yourself staring at the empty barrel of a syringe> which has just injected some of the most potent poisons known into your body > or your child's or riding on a FEMA train or a " Black h " on the way to> incarceration.>> Let me say it again, and again and again: this vaccination, if mandatory,> will have NO exemptions, none, zero, nada, nunca. Not religious, medical, > philosophical, nothing. So take the time now to join the tide of people who> are swelling the email boxes to tell our legislators and other decision> makers that we will not accept this false choice. Right now, 1,424,940 > emails have been sent saying what we will, and what we will not, accept in> terms of forced vaccination.> Is this issue important enough to spend a few minutes sending one email for> each person in you household. And is it important enough to take a few > minutes more to send it forward to every single whom you can reach and ask> them to do the same.>> Natural Solutions Foundation knows that the more of these emails that go> out, the more likely it is that we can achieve some substantial push back. > We are literally embarking on a major new initiative even as I write this,> but we need your support to make our initiative stick!>> Act like your life depends upon this. It does.> Yours in health and freedom, > Dr. Rima> > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (10) 16. The Public Engagement Project on the H1N1 Vaccination Program 8/15/0 Posted by: " themiddleapostle " themiddleapostle@...  themiddleapostle Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:56 pm (PDT) Yesterday I attended a public engagement meeting of the CDC inBirmingham, AL. They started by feeding us a continental breakfast with coffee and juice. They discussed the meeting goals and agenda and gavean overview of the day. They said that some desicions had already beenmade, such as the vaccine is not mandatory, the amountof vaccine being manufactured, and the priority groups to receive the vaccine. They saidthat today we would have small group discussions as to whether thegovernment should " go slow " or take a moderate approach, or go " full throttle " with the H1N1 vaccine. He said there would be web dialogueson August 26-27 and August 31-September 1, 2009 at www.keystone.org/H1N1<http://www.keystone.org/H1N1> , www.ppc.unl.edu <http://www.ppc.unl.edu> , and www.webdialogues.net<http://www.webdialogues.net> . He said there would be stakeholder meetings in Washington, D.C. on Sept. 10th and 11th, 2009, and that theUniversity of Nebraska had a pre-test and a post-test for us and wouldcompose a final report on September 30, 2009. They said the vaccine was made from eggs (not green monkeys?) and people allergice to eggs couldnot take the vaccine. They showed us a video and a power point and thenthey opened it up for questions from the whole group. People askedquestions until lunch time. They told us to begin our small group discussions after lunch. I had brought a copy of the Dutch Associationfor Conscientious Vaccination independent study in December 1, 2004. Ishared it with our group facilitator during lunch. She seemed verysurprised by the results. http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results%20survey. pd\f <http://www.vaccinat ion.inoz. com/Vacc% 20vs%20unvacc% 20results% 20survey. pd\f>(The f must be below the link in order for the link to work.) Our groupended up taking the moderate approach. However, our facilitatorincluded all the concerns we had discussed when she gave our group report. Then they asked us to rate the options we considered. Theytook up the papers and asked for a show of hands as to how people wouldhave voted if the swine flu was more severe or less severe thanexpected. Then they opened it up for more questions, and finally told people they could put their questions on a note card and turn them in. They thanked everyone for coming and gave directions on getting their$50 stipend.That is basically what happened. Sorry it is so long. Lemoyen Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 17. LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine Posted by: " Kirk McLoren " kirkmcloren@...  kirkmcloren Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message862082/pg1 9 page thread. Some startling info.Moshe did not send a threat to the White House. Rather, he communicatedthat he intended to go public with information he had regarding the fluvaccine that is being prepared by Baxter Labs, an Austrian company. The information is this: The vaccine is being manufactured in Ukraine.It is not a vaccine at all, but rather an engineered geneticallymutated bio-weapon meant to cause sickness and death. Moshe informedthe White House he intended to go public with this information. When he became aware that the FBI was about to detain him, he packed somebelongings in his car and set out for the Israeli consulate, located inclose proximity to the federal building where the standoff took place.FBI pursuit kept him from reaching his destination. Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will  Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 18. CDC Community Engagement comment peroiod from www.Blacklistednews.co Posted by: " garystuart " @...  garystuart Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 pm (PDT) http://www.infowars.com/cdc-h1n1-community-engagement-meetings-register-and-make-your-voice-heard/ What is interesting with The Posse Comitas no longer in effect in hte USA the Military is in chage of this emerging forced Vaccination Program? I'm no Christian but is seems to be The Mark of the Beast at play here..... Sincerely, FacilitatorGuy Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity  43 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. Need to Reply? 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