Re: Potty Training

[Guest guest]

Shari, my son is 4.9 and won't - I mean, WON'T - poop in the potty. I

just finished cleaning up a huge poop in the underpants, which ended up

including a bath, because once I got the pants off, then he got it on

his hands, his legs, etc etc. Grrrr. I'm thinking of hiring an ABA

therapist just for this.

> I'm working with a little 4 1/2 year old boy. He will urinate in the

commode but he won't poop. It's been so long since I had to deal with

this issue. Our daughter - fortunately - potty trained at 2 1/2. Any

suggestions? Thanks,

> Shari

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My child with ASD didn't have too much trouble with poop training but

my NT son did. He would beg me to put a diaper on him so he could

poop. One day we were at a friend's house who didn't have a potty seat

on the toilet and he went. Turns out he didn't like the potty seat but

he couldn't tell me that. Made no sense to me that he would rather

poop in a diaper but that's the way it was. Might give some different

seats a try.

H.

> I'm working with a little 4 1/2 year old boy. He will urinate in the

> commode but he won't poop. It's been so long since I had to deal with

> this issue. Our daughter - fortunately - potty trained at 2 1/2. Any

> suggestions? Thanks,

> Shari

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One thing I forgot to add is this: We discovered that CH had a bowel

movement basically at the same times during the day. (Every morning

and sometimes early afternoon) Therefore, even if he urinates in his

potty every morning, we do not allow him to get up until he

has " taken his dump " (what we call it to him). Of course, sometimes

he gets mad and Dad is sometimes lenient on him and lets him up (but

then he goes in his pants).:0( I have to be the " mean Mom " and make

him sit until he goes (usually 15 minutes, if that)

Once you write down the times that it is happening, you will know

when to take your child potty and when to expect that BM.

That is all I have....Sorry.

<br>

>

> I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it out

of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

here! Thanks in advance. Diane

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Don't be sorry, it is so great to hear that we are not alone in this

happening. That is half of solving it. As for the bm timings, this is exactly

the same for us. ME does do great if she does not wake up before me.

Sometimes, she will wake up, and play in her room quietly. That is when we have

a problem. If I am up earlier than her, which is most of the time, she will get

on the potty and we do this as you have just said. I have been so grossed out

by her putting her hands in it. To be honest, knowing that CH does this too, is

a big stress reliever. We will just keep working on this. I do discipline her

for playing in it. Simply to show her it is wrong. That helped for about a

week. Even if she woke up first she did not play in it. Then, in her sleep

last night, she played with it again.YUCK. Anyway, I am hoping this will get

better. Thank you for your experiences. Diane

-------------- Original message from " " :

--------------

One thing I forgot to add is this: We discovered that CH had a bowel

movement basically at the same times during the day. (Every morning

and sometimes early afternoon) Therefore, even if he urinates in his

potty every morning, we do not allow him to get up until he

has " taken his dump " (what we call it to him). Of course, sometimes

he gets mad and Dad is sometimes lenient on him and lets him up (but

then he goes in his pants).:0( I have to be the " mean Mom " and make

him sit until he goes (usually 15 minutes, if that)

Once you write down the times that it is happening, you will know

when to take your child potty and when to expect that BM.

That is all I have....Sorry.

<br>

>

> I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it out

of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

here! Thanks in advance. Diane

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If I may chime in to..I do exactly what does, and has hardly

had any accidents. He is almost completely potty trained! I have to

laugh! used to do the same thing! I feel good knowing that there

are two other little ones who like to feel there poop!

From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On Behalf

Of Grovers

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:40 AM

To: MosaicDS

Subject: Re: Re: Potty training

, Don't be sorry, it is so great to hear that we are not alone in this

happening. That is half of solving it. As for the bm timings, this is

exactly the same for us. ME does do great if she does not wake up before me.

Sometimes, she will wake up, and play in her room quietly. That is when we

have a problem. If I am up earlier than her, which is most of the time, she

will get on the potty and we do this as you have just said. I have been so

grossed out by her putting her hands in it. To be honest, knowing that CH

does this too, is a big stress reliever. We will just keep working on this.

I do discipline her for playing in it. Simply to show her it is wrong. That

helped for about a week. Even if she woke up first she did not play in it.

Then, in her sleep last night, she played with it again.YUCK. Anyway, I am

hoping this will get better. Thank you for your experiences. Diane

-------------- Original message from " " <agirlnamedsuess@...

<mailto:agirlnamedsuess%40hotmail.com> >: --------------

One thing I forgot to add is this: We discovered that CH had a bowel

movement basically at the same times during the day. (Every morning

and sometimes early afternoon) Therefore, even if he urinates in his

potty every morning, we do not allow him to get up until he

has " taken his dump " (what we call it to him). Of course, sometimes

he gets mad and Dad is sometimes lenient on him and lets him up (but

then he goes in his pants).:0( I have to be the " mean Mom " and make

him sit until he goes (usually 15 minutes, if that)

Once you write down the times that it is happening, you will know

when to take your child potty and when to expect that BM.

That is all I have....Sorry.

<br>

>

> I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it out

of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

here! Thanks in advance. Diane

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

CH was getting up earlier than us as well. That is when we started

keeping him up later at night. Then we were sure to be up before him.

Now, I have to wake him up and carry him to the potty every morning.

To ensure he goes, I give him a drink and a banana on the toilet.

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

> realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

> other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it

out

> of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

> I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

> it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh I love both of these ideas. You can bet I am going to try them both!! Thank

you SO much! Diane

-------------- Original message from " " :

--------------

CH was getting up earlier than us as well. That is when we started

keeping him up later at night. Then we were sure to be up before him.

Now, I have to wake him up and carry him to the potty every morning.

To ensure he goes, I give him a drink and a banana on the toilet.

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

> realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

> other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it

out

> of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

> I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

> it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The bad news is we have gone from him pooping in his pants in order

to get " playtime " n the bathtub. SO, then we started doing a quick

shower, which he hated.(no toys) He got used to it (the shower) and

so we started making him take off his dirty pants in the tub, rinse

them out, and clean himself. Most of that crap (no pun intended)

finally stopped. Now,he has begun to go on his own to the potty, but

occassionally he waits to the last minute and cannot get his pants

down in time. We were taking him every hour and now it is every two

hours. (religiously) Star, my last girl, was difficult in training

and was delayed in speaking for a girl (not Apraxic like CH, but

dyslexic nonetheless and also her sister always spoke for her so she

did not talk well until 3) She would wait and wait while outside

playing....right away, I made her clean herself and she only did it

twice. That was the end of that. Sometimes, they enjoy being catered

to and someone cleaning them up like a baby (maybe regression? I

don't know.) All I know is it works. I felt bad at first when CH

could not communicate, but now that we are aware that he fully

comprehends everything and is smart as a whip, we don't give him any

slack. SO....out with the old and in with the new. (I know...I sound

like a " mean Mom " again, but sometimes you have to be the mean Mom.)

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

> realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

> other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it

out

> of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

> I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

> it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You know, honestly, I think that is a " normal " thing that every child does

around that " transition " time. I know Molly did it, and I have heard COUNTLESS

stories from parents of " typical " kids who also did it. THANKFULLY, Molly only

did it once, although she didn't EAT hers; she just smeared it on the wall! I

remember it being a Wednesday night and I went in her room to get her up from

her nap before going to church. Needless to say, she got a bath before we went

to church! LOL!

A.

Special Educator

Simon Kenton HS

11132 Madison Pk.

Independence, KY 41051

(859)960-0348

cynthia.jones@...

________________________________

From: MosaicDS on behalf of Green

Sent: Sun 8/3/2008 11:17 PM

To: MosaicDS

Subject: RE: Re: Potty training

If I may chime in to..I do exactly what does, and has hardly

had any accidents. He is almost completely potty trained! I have to

laugh! used to do the same thing! I feel good knowing that there

are two other little ones who like to feel there poop!

From: MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf

Of Grovers

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:40 AM

To: MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: Re: Potty training

, Don't be sorry, it is so great to hear that we are not alone in this

happening. That is half of solving it. As for the bm timings, this is

exactly the same for us. ME does do great if she does not wake up before me.

Sometimes, she will wake up, and play in her room quietly. That is when we

have a problem. If I am up earlier than her, which is most of the time, she

will get on the potty and we do this as you have just said. I have been so

grossed out by her putting her hands in it. To be honest, knowing that CH

does this too, is a big stress reliever. We will just keep working on this.

I do discipline her for playing in it. Simply to show her it is wrong. That

helped for about a week. Even if she woke up first she did not play in it.

Then, in her sleep last night, she played with it again.YUCK. Anyway, I am

hoping this will get better. Thank you for your experiences. Diane

-------------- Original message from " " <agirlnamedsuess@...

<mailto:agirlnamedsuess%40hotmail.com>

<mailto:agirlnamedsuess%40hotmail.com> >: --------------

One thing I forgot to add is this: We discovered that CH had a bowel

movement basically at the same times during the day. (Every morning

and sometimes early afternoon) Therefore, even if he urinates in his

potty every morning, we do not allow him to get up until he

has " taken his dump " (what we call it to him). Of course, sometimes

he gets mad and Dad is sometimes lenient on him and lets him up (but

then he goes in his pants).:0( I have to be the " mean Mom " and make

him sit until he goes (usually 15 minutes, if that)

Once you write down the times that it is happening, you will know

when to take your child potty and when to expect that BM.

That is all I have....Sorry.

<br>

>

> I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it out

of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

here! Thanks in advance. Diane

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Again, no pun intended...LOL...but CH was " religious " about it. It

became some sort of sick habit. We really think he began to do it on

purpose for reasons already stated. My other 4 never played in their

poop.(knock on wood..one is still young)

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

> realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

> other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it

out

> of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

> I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

> it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My middle son who just turned 5 without MDS. I thought he was going to start

kindergarten in a diaper for awhile. We tried everything and yes he liked to

play in it for some reason. Which just makes a bad situation go to horrible

really fast, When it is smeared all over the walls himself the floors toys ect.

ewwwwww. My mother made him go without bottoms on no underware or diaper or

pullup just naked. And it worked! When ever he had the sensation of something

touching him he would just go in it but when he was naked no accidents. He would

shoot through the house like a rocket to get to the toilet on time. I just

figured he would just mess somewhere in the house without pants on but he never

did. I went to a parent group this weekend and that was actually reccomended by

an expert. I felt so silly as a parent of a 4 year old not potty trained and

then letting him run around the house naked to get it done but hey it worked. I

just remember being greatful that my son is on the

small side so him wearing diapers in public didnt look out of the ordinary.

Glad that is over know I think my baby with DS will not be that difficult after

dealing with my other kiddo. LOL Steph

wrote: The bad news is we have gone

from him pooping in his pants in order

to get " playtime " n the bathtub. SO, then we started doing a quick

shower, which he hated.(no toys) He got used to it (the shower) and

so we started making him take off his dirty pants in the tub, rinse

them out, and clean himself. Most of that crap (no pun intended)

finally stopped. Now,he has begun to go on his own to the potty, but

occassionally he waits to the last minute and cannot get his pants

down in time. We were taking him every hour and now it is every two

hours. (religiously) Star, my last girl, was difficult in training

and was delayed in speaking for a girl (not Apraxic like CH, but

dyslexic nonetheless and also her sister always spoke for her so she

did not talk well until 3) She would wait and wait while outside

playing....right away, I made her clean herself and she only did it

twice. That was the end of that. Sometimes, they enjoy being catered

to and someone cleaning them up like a baby (maybe regression? I

don't know.) All I know is it works. I felt bad at first when CH

could not communicate, but now that we are aware that he fully

comprehends everything and is smart as a whip, we don't give him any

slack. SO....out with the old and in with the new. (I know...I sound

like a " mean Mom " again, but sometimes you have to be the mean Mom.)

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

> realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

> other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it

out

> of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

> I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

> it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have to agree with the naked potty training. Someone suggested the naked

training and it worked. Then we went to clothes but whenever we tried underwear

he would have an accident. He still doesn't wear underwear at this time. They

don't seem to make real boxers for his size and all the other underwear is too

snug (I really think it fits too snug like the diapers and he has an accident).

I know the pre-school was a little shocked the first time he went without

underwear but he gained so much confidence from not having the accidents.

Hopfully we can do the underwear soon. Trista

---- Shaffer wrote:

> My middle son who just turned 5 without MDS. I thought he was going to start

kindergarten in a diaper for awhile. We tried everything and yes he liked to

play in it for some reason. Which just makes a bad situation go to horrible

really fast, When it is smeared all over the walls himself the floors toys ect.

ewwwwww. My mother made him go without bottoms on no underware or diaper or

pullup just naked. And it worked! When ever he had the sensation of something

touching him he would just go in it but when he was naked no accidents. He would

shoot through the house like a rocket to get to the toilet on time. I just

figured he would just mess somewhere in the house without pants on but he never

did. I went to a parent group this weekend and that was actually reccomended by

an expert. I felt so silly as a parent of a 4 year old not potty trained and

then letting him run around the house naked to get it done but hey it worked. I

just remember being greatful that my son is on the

> small side so him wearing diapers in public didnt look out of the ordinary.

Glad that is over know I think my baby with DS will not be that difficult after

dealing with my other kiddo. LOL Steph

>

> wrote: The bad news is we have

gone from him pooping in his pants in order

> to get " playtime " n the bathtub. SO, then we started doing a quick

> shower, which he hated.(no toys) He got used to it (the shower) and

> so we started making him take off his dirty pants in the tub, rinse

> them out, and clean himself. Most of that crap (no pun intended)

> finally stopped. Now,he has begun to go on his own to the potty, but

> occassionally he waits to the last minute and cannot get his pants

> down in time. We were taking him every hour and now it is every two

> hours. (religiously) Star, my last girl, was difficult in training

> and was delayed in speaking for a girl (not Apraxic like CH, but

> dyslexic nonetheless and also her sister always spoke for her so she

> did not talk well until 3) She would wait and wait while outside

> playing....right away, I made her clean herself and she only did it

> twice. That was the end of that. Sometimes, they enjoy being catered

> to and someone cleaning them up like a baby (maybe regression? I

> don't know.) All I know is it works. I felt bad at first when CH

> could not communicate, but now that we are aware that he fully

> comprehends everything and is smart as a whip, we don't give him any

> slack. SO....out with the old and in with the new. (I know...I sound

> like a " mean Mom " again, but sometimes you have to be the mean Mom.)

>

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> > Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

> > realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

> > other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it

> out

> > of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

> > I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

> > it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> > here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Molly ran around our house naked until she was five and that didn't help potty

training one bit. We still have two carpets in our old house that we have to

replace before we will be able to sell it. I think it just depends on the

child. Different things work for different kids. Molly was (and is) just very

strong-willed and will only do something in her own time - whether it matches

our timetable or not. She would go into the bathroom, relieve herself on the

floor, and then sit down on the potty. I got so sick of cleaning up rivers of

pee-pee that I nearly lost my mind. I even asked her pediatrician if there was

possibly a medical reason why she couldn't go sitting down and he said there was

nothing. It was just a behavioral thing for her. She FINALLY started going

where she was supposed to when we bought a new house. The first time we had

real success was when we went out to eat after looking at the house and deciding

that we were actually going to buy it. She actually went potty in the bathroom

at 's! I came out walking on cloud nine! LOL! After we closed on the

house, I spent a lot of time there painting, etc... before we moved in. She

went to the bathroom consistently when we were there, but when we would go home

to the old house, she'd go in the floor again - especially poop! Once we were

moved in, she never had another incident of going to the bathroom where she

wasn't supposed to. (She did have an " accident " one night. She was walking

around the house passing gas and got fooled! She was shocked out of her mind!

She just stood there looking down with the most perplexed look on her face! I

KNEW that was an accident, though, and did not get upset with her. I just

cleaned her up - and the carpet - and moved on!)

One other thing. Molly stopped wearing pullups LONG before finally being

potty-trained. She liked the panties and wouldn't wear the pullups. (It was

probably 1 ½ to 2 years). She never would go IN her pants. She ALWAYS stripped

down to go - even if we were in a public place like the food court at the mall!

In fact, the way we finally convinced her she should wear panties around the

house was by telling her if she didn't put panties on, she would have to wear

the pullup. We just didn't think it was appropriate for a five-year-old to be

running around completely naked. It was her daddy's idea to use the pullup as

an incentive to make her wear panties. He actually put it on her and when she

pulled it off, he made her put the panties on. Now, she AT LEAST wears panties

around the house! We'll work on the clothes later!

A.

Special Educator

Simon Kenton High School

(859)960-0348

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From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On Behalf Of

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Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:01 PM

To: MosaicDS

Cc: Shaffer

Subject: Re: Re: Potty training

I have to agree with the naked potty training. Someone suggested the naked

training and it worked. Then we went to clothes but whenever we tried underwear

he would have an accident. He still doesn't wear underwear at this time. They

don't seem to make real boxers for his size and all the other underwear is too

snug (I really think it fits too snug like the diapers and he has an accident).

I know the pre-school was a little shocked the first time he went without

underwear but he gained so much confidence from not having the accidents.

Hopfully we can do the underwear soon. Trista

---- Shaffer <flynhi_1@... <mailto:flynhi_1%40yahoo.com> >

wrote:

> My middle son who just turned 5 without MDS. I thought he was going to start

kindergarten in a diaper for awhile. We tried everything and yes he liked to

play in it for some reason. Which just makes a bad situation go to horrible

really fast, When it is smeared all over the walls himself the floors toys ect.

ewwwwww. My mother made him go without bottoms on no underware or diaper or

pullup just naked. And it worked! When ever he had the sensation of something

touching him he would just go in it but when he was naked no accidents. He would

shoot through the house like a rocket to get to the toilet on time. I just

figured he would just mess somewhere in the house without pants on but he never

did. I went to a parent group this weekend and that was actually reccomended by

an expert. I felt so silly as a parent of a 4 year old not potty trained and

then letting him run around the house naked to get it done but hey it worked. I

just remember being greatful that my son is on t he

> small side so him wearing diapers in public didnt look out of the ordinary.

Glad that is over know I think my baby with DS will not be that difficult after

dealing with my other kiddo. LOL Steph

>

> <agirlnamedsuess@... <mailto:agirlnamedsuess%40hotmail.com> >

wrote: The bad news is we have gone from him pooping in his pants in order

> to get " playtime " n the bathtub. SO, then we started doing a quick

> shower, which he hated.(no toys) He got used to it (the shower) and

> so we started making him take off his dirty pants in the tub, rinse

> them out, and clean himself. Most of that crap (no pun intended)

> finally stopped. Now,he has begun to go on his own to the potty, but

> occassionally he waits to the last minute and cannot get his pants

> down in time. We were taking him every hour and now it is every two

> hours. (religiously) Star, my last girl, was difficult in training

> and was delayed in speaking for a girl (not Apraxic like CH, but

> dyslexic nonetheless and also her sister always spoke for her so she

> did not talk well until 3) She would wait and wait while outside

> playing....right away, I made her clean herself and she only did it

> twice. That was the end of that. Sometimes, they enjoy being catered

> to and someone cleaning them up like a baby (maybe regression? I

> don't know.) All I know is it works. I felt bad at first when CH

> could not communicate, but now that we are aware that he fully

> comprehends everything and is smart as a whip, we don't give him any

> slack. SO....out with the old and in with the new. (I know...I sound

> like a " mean Mom " again, but sometimes you have to be the mean Mom.)

>

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> > Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like she

> > realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents. The

> > other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants it

> out

> > of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help anyone?????

> > I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all of

> > it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> > here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I think you hit it on the head with the " strong-willed behavior "

thing. We must remember that we have " overexpression " of the genes

and our kids won't do anything they do not want to.

Apparently, you got Molly's approval on the new house! LOL :0)- Old

habits are hard to break for anyone. Apparently, Mollyhas good memory

cells...:0))) because everytime she went back to the same 'ol house,

she remembered her behavior and repeated it.-Actually, in a weird way

it was good that she did that because you were able to learn her

memory is good! ;0)

P.S> My son " wants " to run naked...LOL.. OUTSIDE!!! We won't let

him. ;0(

- In MosaicDS , " , - Kenton County "

wrote:

>

> Molly ran around our house naked until she was five and that didn't

help potty training one bit. We still have two carpets in our old

house that we have to replace before we will be able to sell it. I

think it just depends on the child. Different things work for

different kids. Molly was (and is) just very strong-willed and will

only do something in her own time - whether it matches our timetable

or not. She would go into the bathroom, relieve herself on the

floor, and then sit down on the potty. I got so sick of cleaning up

rivers of pee-pee that I nearly lost my mind. I even asked her

pediatrician if there was possibly a medical reason why she couldn't

go sitting down and he said there was nothing. It was just a

behavioral thing for her. She FINALLY started going where she was

supposed to when we bought a new house. The first time we had real

success was when we went out to eat after looking at the house and

deciding that we were actually going to buy it. She actually went

potty in the bathroom at 's! I came out walking on cloud nine!

LOL! After we closed on the house, I spent a lot of time there

painting, etc... before we moved in. She went to the bathroom

consistently when we were there, but when we would go home to the old

house, she'd go in the floor again - especially poop! Once we were

moved in, she never had another incident of going to the bathroom

where she wasn't supposed to. (She did have an " accident " one

night. She was walking around the house passing gas and got fooled!

She was shocked out of her mind! She just stood there looking down

with the most perplexed look on her face! I KNEW that was an

accident, though, and did not get upset with her. I just cleaned her

up - and the carpet - and moved on!)

>

>

>

> One other thing. Molly stopped wearing pullups LONG before finally

being potty-trained. She liked the panties and wouldn't wear the

pullups. (It was probably 1 ½ to 2 years). She never would go IN

her pants. She ALWAYS stripped down to go - even if we were in a

public place like the food court at the mall! In fact, the way we

finally convinced her she should wear panties around the house was by

telling her if she didn't put panties on, she would have to wear the

pullup. We just didn't think it was appropriate for a five-year-old

to be running around completely naked. It was her daddy's idea to

use the pullup as an incentive to make her wear panties. He actually

put it on her and when she pulled it off, he made her put the panties

on. Now, she AT LEAST wears panties around the house! We'll work on

the clothes later!

>

>

>

> A.

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> From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On

Behalf Of gabrielsmom@...

> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:01 PM

> To: MosaicDS

> Cc: Shaffer

> Subject: Re: Re: Potty training

>

>

>

> I have to agree with the naked potty training. Someone suggested

the naked training and it worked. Then we went to clothes but

whenever we tried underwear he would have an accident. He still

doesn't wear underwear at this time. They don't seem to make real

boxers for his size and all the other underwear is too snug (I really

think it fits too snug like the diapers and he has an accident). I

know the pre-school was a little shocked the first time he went

without underwear but he gained so much confidence from not having

the accidents. Hopfully we can do the underwear soon. Trista

>

> ---- Shaffer <flynhi_1@... <mailto:flynhi_1%40yahoo.com>

> wrote:

> > My middle son who just turned 5 without MDS. I thought he was

going to start kindergarten in a diaper for awhile. We tried

everything and yes he liked to play in it for some reason. Which just

makes a bad situation go to horrible really fast, When it is smeared

all over the walls himself the floors toys ect. ewwwwww. My mother

made him go without bottoms on no underware or diaper or pullup just

naked. And it worked! When ever he had the sensation of something

touching him he would just go in it but when he was naked no

accidents. He would shoot through the house like a rocket to get to

the toilet on time. I just figured he would just mess somewhere in

the house without pants on but he never did. I went to a parent group

this weekend and that was actually reccomended by an expert. I felt

so silly as a parent of a 4 year old not potty trained and then

letting him run around the house naked to get it done but hey it

worked. I just remember being greatful that my son is on t he

> > small side so him wearing diapers in public didnt look out of the

ordinary. Glad that is over know I think my baby with DS will not be

that difficult after dealing with my other kiddo. LOL Steph

> >

> > <agirlnamedsuess@... <mailto:agirlnamedsuess%40hotmail.com>

> wrote: The bad news is we have gone from him pooping in his pants

in order

> > to get " playtime " n the bathtub. SO, then we started doing a

quick

> > shower, which he hated.(no toys) He got used to it (the shower)

and

> > so we started making him take off his dirty pants in the tub,

rinse

> > them out, and clean himself. Most of that crap (no pun intended)

> > finally stopped. Now,he has begun to go on his own to the potty,

but

> > occassionally he waits to the last minute and cannot get his

pants

> > down in time. We were taking him every hour and now it is every

two

> > hours. (religiously) Star, my last girl, was difficult in

training

> > and was delayed in speaking for a girl (not Apraxic like CH, but

> > dyslexic nonetheless and also her sister always spoke for her so

she

> > did not talk well until 3) She would wait and wait while outside

> > playing....right away, I made her clean herself and she only did

it

> > twice. That was the end of that. Sometimes, they enjoy being

catered

> > to and someone cleaning them up like a baby (maybe regression? I

> > don't know.) All I know is it works. I felt bad at first when CH

> > could not communicate, but now that we are aware that he fully

> > comprehends everything and is smart as a whip, we don't give him

any

> > slack. SO....out with the old and in with the new. (I know...I

sound

> > like a " mean Mom " again, but sometimes you have to be the mean

Mom.)

> >

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anyone has any potty training tips for us.

> > > Ellen did great for about a month. Now it is almost like

she

> > > realizes it is too much work, and has been having accidents.

The

> > > other problem we have is when she has a bm accident, she wants

it

> > out

> > > of her pants, and spreads it all over. Ugghhhhh....Help

anyone?????

> > > I know some of that is from communication. In fact probably all

of

> > > it. It happens when she is in bed still. I could use some tips

> > > here! Thanks in advance. Diane

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I can do that, and show you pictures of when Austin had his surgery. He had 2

holes repaired and was in and out of surgery in 3.5 hours, he did so well that

he was off the ventilator by 4PM the day of surgery, and was back on his feeding

schedule the next morning. (Austin was 5 mos. when he had his).

The reason for the pictures was A) Not everyone in our family could see Austin

in the PICU right after surgery and 2) So someday in the future I can show him

what made his scar and explain everything to him.

If you'd like me to email you some photos just shoot me your email address

and I'll send them.

 

Blessings Abound,

(Becky) Rowe

Mom to Trey (8 ADHD) & Austin (6 MDS)

 

________________________________

Family Assistance Coordinator

 www.imdsa.org or becky@...  

________________________________

To: MosaicDS

Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:12:32 PM

Subject: Potty Training

Our granddaughter turned 3 in November. She will be having heart

surgery to repair a hole in her heart. Is there anyone out there who

would care to share their story regarding this surgery and the recovery

period. We will be meeting with the surgeon this week and I'm sure we

will get a lot of our questions answered at that time. Thanks for your

help.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Becky. I would appreciate receiving your pictures. From my research, it

said to expect about 2-3 days in ICU and then in the hospital for about a week.

Thanks for your note. linda_stoner@...

To: MosaicDS@...: rdrsfan31@...: Mon, 12 Jan 2009

15:22:15 -0800Subject: Re: Potty Training

I can do that, and show you pictures of when Austin had his surgery. He had 2

holes repaired and was in and out of surgery in 3.5 hours, he did so well that

he was off the ventilator by 4PM the day of surgery, and was back on his feeding

schedule the next morning. (Austin was 5 mos. when he had his).The reason for

the pictures was A) Not everyone in our family could see Austin in the PICU

right after surgery and 2) So someday in the future I can show him what made his

scar and explain everything to him. If you'd like me to email you some photos

just shoot me your email address and I'll send them. Blessings Abound,

(Becky) RoweMom to Trey (8 ADHD) & Austin (6 MDS)

________________________________Family Assistance Coordinator www.imdsa.org or

becky@... ________________________________From: msdgrandma

To: MosaicDS@...: Monday, January 12,

2009 6:12:32 PMSubject: Potty TrainingOur granddaughter turned 3 in

November. She will be having heart surgery to repair a hole in her heart. Is

there anyone out there who would care to share their story regarding this

surgery and the recovery period. We will be meeting with the surgeon this week

and I'm sure we will get a lot of our questions answered at that time. Thanks

for your help.

[Guest guest]

I can also share our story about the holes in the heart.

We did not know had any heart issues, she was in the hospital at 6

months and for GI surgery at 3 years. No one said anything to us about her

heart. At 8 years old she told me her heart hurt. Well, since she NEVER

complains about anything hurting, I took her to a cardiologist. He listened

to her heart, did an EKG and did an echo cardiogram. Listening and the EKG

showed nothing - the Echo - showed 3 holes in her heart! One had already

closed on its own they just saw the scar tissue, and the other was a tiny

pin point hole not worth fixing - the third is called a silent PDA.

Everyone has a PDA when they are born, and 99% close right after 's

never closed. So at 8 years old she had the surgery to fix her heart. They

went through her leg and put a small coil in the hole (which will cause a

clot and close the hole). After the surgery, we had her in a wheel chair to

go get XRays to make sure the hole was closed and she took off in the wheel

chair while we were waiting for the XRay room - (I keep thinking of curious

in Curious goes to the hospital.) She was let out that day

and is doing FABULOUS!

Darlene - Mom to (9) and (12)

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM, msdgrandma wrote:

> Our granddaughter turned 3 in November. She will be having heart

> surgery to repair a hole in her heart. Is there anyone out there who

> would care to share their story regarding this surgery and the recovery

> period. We will be meeting with the surgeon this week and I'm sure we

> will get a lot of our questions answered at that time. Thanks for your

> help.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our daughter, , had heart surgery 25 years ago when she was 6 months old.

They have come a long way since then, but it went beautifully. She had a patch

the size of a half dollar. If I'm remembering right she had a VSD. Pretty much

immediately after the surgery, I saw an extreme improvement in her. She had

energy that we hadn't seen before. She was in the hospital for a month. The

week prior to surgery she was there to get her stabilized to have the surgery.

Her peditician almost let her die. They told me at the time that she may

outgrow the patch and may have to have it replaced when she was a teenager.

But, she did not have to. She is doing just fine and they never seem concerned

at all when she goes in for checkups.

God bless,

- mom to 25yrs.

Potty Training

Our granddaughter turned 3 in November. She will be having heart

surgery to repair a hole in her heart. Is there anyone out there who

would care to share their story regarding this surgery and the recovery

period. We will be meeting with the surgeon this week and I'm sure we

will get a lot of our questions answered at that time. Thanks for your

help.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Darlene for your note. I must apologize for the subject listed above

" potty training " . I was about to post a question about potty training and then

my mind switched to this heart surgery. Just wanted you to know I am not losing

it, at least not yet!! Your note was helpful. Our granddaughter also has the

PDA which the surgeon will fix when she has surgery. The cardiologist and

surgeons agreed that the procedure your daughter had would not work for our

granddaughter so she will have the open heart surgery. Thanks again for sharing

your story.

To: MosaicDS@...: Darleneand@...: Tue, 13 Jan 2009

08:34:07 -0500Subject: Re: Potty Training

I can also share our story about the holes in the heart.We did not know

had any heart issues, she was in the hospital at 6months and for GI surgery at 3

years. No one said anything to us about herheart. At 8 years old she told me her

heart hurt. Well, since she NEVERcomplains about anything hurting, I took her to

a cardiologist. He listenedto her heart, did an EKG and did an echo cardiogram.

Listening and the EKGshowed nothing - the Echo - showed 3 holes in her heart!

One had alreadyclosed on its own they just saw the scar tissue, and the other

was a tinypin point hole not worth fixing - the third is called a silent

PDA.Everyone has a PDA when they are born, and 99% close right after

'snever closed. So at 8 years old she had the surgery to fix her heart.

Theywent through her leg and put a small coil in the hole (which will cause

aclot and close the hole). After the surgery, we had her in a wheel chair togo

get XRays to make sure the hole was closed and she took off in the wheelchair

while we were waiting for the XRay room - (I keep thinking of curious in

Curious goes to the hospital.) She was let out that dayand is doing

FABULOUS!Darlene - Mom to (9) and (12)On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:12

PM, msdgrandma wrote:> Our granddaughter turned 3 in

November. She will be having heart> surgery to repair a hole in her heart. Is

there anyone out there who> would care to share their story regarding this

surgery and the recovery> period. We will be meeting with the surgeon this week

and I'm sure we> will get a lot of our questions answered at that time. Thanks

for your> help.>> >

[Guest guest]

I have one that just doesn't like bathrooms. I think it's because he feels they

isolate him from the rest of the house and people.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> Hi all,

> I'm trying to potty train my son, but seems its not working.

> He sits on the potty for 45 minutes but mostly does outside after I take him

out.

>

> He is very compliant, but I don't understand what's going on?

> He is on Mepron and azithromycin with Artemisinin and Enula for 9 months now.

>

> Any suggestions highly appreciated.

>

> Sasmita

>

[Guest guest]

I have one that just doesn't like bathrooms. I think it's because he feels they

isolate him from the rest of the house and people.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> Hi all,

> I'm trying to potty train my son, but seems its not working.

> He sits on the potty for 45 minutes but mostly does outside after I take him

out.

>

> He is very compliant, but I don't understand what's going on?

> He is on Mepron and azithromycin with Artemisinin and Enula for 9 months now.

>

> Any suggestions highly appreciated.

>

> Sasmita

>

[Guest guest]

Sasmita,What l have learned in ABA courses, children MUST be able to associate potty/training w something nice/positive (e.g. When a child pees in the potty, give him a mini mini fruit popsicle, something he likes) and 45 minutes is too long for him to remain seated, about that l have no doubt. You'd better bring him every 15 minutes, do something else for 10 mins and come back again. Make a song TO GO, give a small reward when he succeeds, show your enthusiasm, clap, take a picture of his "accomplishment" show it to him, make him flush the w.c., if possible, have the whole family be present when he succeeds and praise him, all together. Give lots of water to increase the success rate by day, be firm when saying "No" with an accident, but don't yell or be mad. All this has worked for us and wanted to share w U, just my 0.02.Good luck ;-)IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: "abafan" Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 03:35:11 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Subject: Potty Training Hi all, I'm trying to potty train my son, but seems its not working. He sits on the potty for 45 minutes but mostly does outside after I take him out. He is very compliant, but I don't understand what's going on? He is on Mepron and azithromycin with Artemisinin and Enula for 9 months now. Any suggestions highly appreciated. Sasmita