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Good timing. I just saw a new gyn. yesterday and she gave me a bunch of

information about VV and vulvodynia and low oxilate diet and Estrace, etc.,

etc. The low oxilate diet is very different from the low carb. diet, from

what I read so far, in that it eliminates most vegetables. I haven't read

thoroughly through it, but it made me laugh because I've been preparing to

go on a low carb diet, which eliminates all sugar, grains, etc., and now to

eliminate most vegetables for the low oxilate diet, I think the only thing

left to do is to be hooked up to an intraveneous feeding tube!

Seriously, if you have a fax machine, I can fax you the information I was

given by my doctor regarding the low oxilate diet. If you're interested,

E-mail me and give me your fax number. The information may also be

available on one of the vulvar websites, which maybe someone else will

respond with.

Best of luck,

Janis

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Janis,

That's funny! After looking at that list, I agree. Just give me a list of

stuff that DOESN'T have

oxilate (LOL). Lucy gave me the website address (thanks Lucy!) for info on the

low oxilate diet.

It was a list of foods that contained low, moderate, and high amts. of oxilate.

If you have more

info could you please fax it to me. My number is (919)962-6325 Thank you so

much!

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:03:45 -0500 janis.sullivan@... (Janis Sullivan)

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>

>,

>Good timing. I just saw a new gyn. yesterday and she gave me a bunch of

>information about VV and vulvodynia and low oxilate diet and Estrace, etc.,

>etc. The low oxilate diet is very different from the low carb. diet, from

>what I read so far, in that it eliminates most vegetables. I haven't read

>thoroughly through it, but it made me laugh because I've been preparing to

>go on a low carb diet, which eliminates all sugar, grains, etc., and now to

>eliminate most vegetables for the low oxilate diet, I think the only thing

>left to do is to be hooked up to an intraveneous feeding tube!

>

>Seriously, if you have a fax machine, I can fax you the information I was

>given by my doctor regarding the low oxilate diet. If you're interested,

>E-mail me and give me your fax number. The information may also be

>available on one of the vulvar websites, which maybe someone else will

>respond with.

>

>Best of luck,

>Janis

>

>

>

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>I was wondering if you could give me some information concerning diet? I

have heard several people

>mention low-oxalate (spelling?) diets and also low carbohydrate diets. Are

these two the same? I

>have never altered my diet and would like to try. Can you please give me

some suggestions?

Sorry to have to do this, but me too.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Regards

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Here's a listing online of the low oxalate foods/diet:

http://www.branwen.com/rowan/oxalate.htm

The VP Foundation also has a low oxalate cookbook available. (there's a

link to their site at the above web address)

It's probably best to be tested first for high oxalates since this diet is

very difficult and not exactly optimal, nutritionally speaking. It is NOT

the same as a low-carb or low-sugar diet! In fact, these two diets are

incompatible. I think it's best that each woman found out exactly why she'd

need to follow either of these diets (get diagnosed first!) before embarking

on either one. The low oxalate diet omits most whole grains and many

healthy vegetables (and no tomatoes, beans, berries, coffee or chocolate).

I hope this helps some!

Gail

athena@...

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>To All

>

>>I was wondering if you could give me some information concerning diet? I

>have heard several people

>>mention low-oxalate (spelling?) diets and also low carbohydrate diets.

Are

>these two the same? I

>>have never altered my diet and would like to try. Can you please give me

>some suggestions?

>

>Sorry to have to do this, but me too.

>

>Any information would be gratefully received.

>

>Regards

>

>

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--- captwildchild wrote:

>But as long as I am the cook he will at least eat well at home>

For the most part, Juel, I can say the same thing... At least, until I make a

batch of cookies!

;-)

Diet is the hardest part after a while. Everything else, it seems, has become

routine or

something you really don't want to mess around with. With food, he can fool

himself (or, maybe he

doesn't) and go " wild! " His sex life is gone (at this point, not even

injections would help), his

life is governed by meds nearly all day, so what's left? Food. And, his tryke.

His BMW modified

motorcycle turned tryke... I think his motto is, he's going to go out feeling

like he has lived

right up to the end!

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Lately I've been doing the same thing----indulging in the " wrong " kinds of

foods--sweets--salty---meat---dairy---no limits, as well as enjoying my

motorcycle with the same philosophy: " Nothing so far has worked, and I'm

going to have as much fun as possible with what time is left " ---including

sex with what I have left following RP, and excluding Hormone Therapy which

is not a permanent solution anyway but which can cause permanent sexual

problems even after it becomes refractory and ineffective.

B

Conroe TX

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> --- captwildchild wrote:

>

>>But as long as I am the cook he will at least eat well at home>

>

> For the most part, Juel, I can say the same thing... At least, until I

> make a batch of cookies!

> ;-)

>

> Diet is the hardest part after a while. Everything else, it seems, has

> become routine or

> something you really don't want to mess around with. With food, he can

> fool himself (or, maybe he

> doesn't) and go " wild! " His sex life is gone (at this point, not even

> injections would help), his

> life is governed by meds nearly all day, so what's left? Food. And, his

> tryke. His BMW modified

> motorcycle turned tryke... I think his motto is, he's going to go out

> feeling like he has lived

> right up to the end!

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

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--- RJ wrote:

> ,

>

> Lately I've been doing the same thing----indulging in the " wrong " kinds of

> foods--sweets--salty---meat---dairy---no limits, as well as enjoying my

> motorcycle with the same philosophy: " Nothing so far has worked, and I'm

> going to have as much fun as possible with what time is left " ---including

> sex with what I have left following RP, and excluding Hormone Therapy which

> is not a permanent solution anyway but which can cause permanent sexual

> problems even after it becomes refractory and ineffective.

>

> B

> Conroe TX>

I can understand the thinking, except that it's not me who has the cancer.

Soooo, I'm left trying

to convince my husband that I'd rather have him around longer rather than

lesser... Hubby had

non-nerve sparing surgery with an implant that he never used - he was afraid of

it. It finally

had to be removed 'cuz it failed causing more damage and because of all this and

his incontinence

he has no interest in sex. The hormone therapy seems to be working for now, so

why muck it up

with a bad diet?? <sigh>

.

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Hi Carol:

I think you have a very unique situation. With your kidney/liver problems

you pretty much have to listen to your doctors and your own intuition. For

you, those are the only ³rules². Whatever works to get you healthy is what

works for you.

I think sometimes when we restrict our diet too much like, for example,

saying I can never eat sugar again. Then we begin to white knuckle it and

grit our teeth and put so much attention on NOT eating it that the food we

are resisting becomes upper most in our mind. Then we have to have it and

we will gorge on it.

so your idea of moderation is very important and good for you figuring that

out. I try to do that as well. I will let myself have something a little

sweet every day but its not a snickers bar. Something that is healthy yet

it satisfies me and I do not have to grit my teeth and say I will NOT eat

anything sweet ever again. Or corn, or wheat or whatever the food is. Now

I will say that I know from my personal experience what wheat will do to me

so I have zero problems avoiding that. I do not have to grit my teeth at

all to avoid wheat. I think that is my body telling me something.

If I was you I would do research on the web and see what food is good for

liver/kidney problems in a healthy diet and eat some of that every day. You

can add years of quality living to your life with healthy food and moderate

treats without smoking or alcohol and a little bit of exercise like walking

every day or every second day. Walking will not make you look buff but it

will keep your blood moving your bones healthy and your heart pumping along

with your lungs. That is huge for our body so just walking can make us

healthy too. That also is moderation. We do NOT need to do 2 hours a day 5

days a week like some magazines tell the young ones to do. LOL

Have a good day.

>

>

>

>

> Is there anything you CAN eat besides all the imitation stuff? I have been on

> a very resticted Renal diet for over two years and have just about decided now

> that my kidneys are working normal again that I want quality of life and not

> quanity. What good is it if you live another 20 or 30 years if you can't enjoy

> it? I have been taking 100 mgs of Lyrica a day and I also take Lasix to keep

> down the swelling. I am doing pretty good on it now.I am not knocking the

> remedies that I have been seeing on here, I am just saying that I am sick of

> having to eat a limited varity of foods. I am not over doing it, and still

> watch some of what I eat. But I am eating pretty much what I want in

> moderation.

> Carol

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So smart people give it up. Thanks. I really am not missing anything. Good to

hear. Read.

Re: Re: Diet

>

> I was in Bee's candida group, not for the diet as I don't agree with it,

> but for her other health tips. When I found out that she believes smoking

> does not harm your health, in fact she says that it detoxes you, I left. For

> a health advocate to tell people this I thought was very irresponsible. I

> asked her if she smoked but she wouldn't answer. That's her business if she

> does but I couldn't figure out why else she would go to such great lengths

> to defend smoking. She doesn't believe it causes any health problems at

> all. Oh boy...she's in denial!

>

> Tammy

>

> In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:00:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> cindy_martian@ yahoo.com writes:

>

> I can eat eggs, meat I cook myself. I eat the fat on meats plus unsalted

> butter, coconut oil. and extra virgin olive oil. I cut down on grains like

> brown rice, and high starch veggies like potatoes, carrots and beats. that

> leaves a lot of low carb veggies I can eat, as well as lots of butter and

> organic spices in them that make them taste very good. I mostly cook my

> vegetables, but will eat some raw when in a pinch for time, or on the go. I

> don't eat gluten grains, or especially store bought breads which have lots of

> preservatives. The foods I eat can cause healing reactions though, so you

> have to do it gradually. That does not mean you are allergic to them, but you

> may have to gradually increase them to avoid too much die offs of candida

> at one time. Yahoo group; candidasupport also has a recipe group that I get

> Ideas from. Hope that helps.

>

> C.

>

>

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Yes, lucky for never starting it. you you are not missing a thing.

Stay healthy. :)

>

>

>

>

> So smart people give it up. Thanks. I really am not missing anything. Good to

> hear. Read.

>

>

> Re: Re: Diet

>> >

>> > I was in Bee's candida group, not for the diet as I don't agree with it,

>> > but for her other health tips. When I found out that she believes smoking

>> > does not harm your health, in fact she says that it detoxes you, I left.

>> For

>> > a health advocate to tell people this I thought was very irresponsible. I

>> > asked her if she smoked but she wouldn't answer. That's her business if

>> she

>> > does but I couldn't figure out why else she would go to such great lengths

>> > to defend smoking. She doesn't believe it causes any health problems at

>> > all. Oh boy...she's in denial!

>> >

>> > Tammy

>> >

>> > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:00:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

>> > cindy_martian@ yahoo.com writes:

>> >

>> > I can eat eggs, meat I cook myself. I eat the fat on meats plus unsalted

>> > butter, coconut oil. and extra virgin olive oil. I cut down on grains like

>> > brown rice, and high starch veggies like potatoes, carrots and beats. that

>> > leaves a lot of low carb veggies I can eat, as well as lots of butter and

>> > organic spices in them that make them taste very good. I mostly cook my

>> > vegetables, but will eat some raw when in a pinch for time, or on the go. I

>> > don't eat gluten grains, or especially store bought breads which have lots

>> of

>> > preservatives. The foods I eat can cause healing reactions though, so you

>> > have to do it gradually. That does not mean you are allergic to them, but

>> you

>> > may have to gradually increase them to avoid too much die offs of candida

>> > at one time. Yahoo group; candidasupport also has a recipe group that I

>> get

>> > Ideas from. Hope that helps.

>> >

>> > C.

>> >

>> >

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