Re: Progesterone has finally reared its ugly head!

May 7, 2008

, can you give more information on the E range for what time of the cycle this was taken. 32 does not sound high to me. And esp not in relation to your enormously high P. BUT the P is very interesting and yes it is most likely being released out of your tissues. Perhaps iodine plays a role in that. They do work synchronistically, so I would not be surprised. There have been women here who cannot take iodine and feel it is as if they have taken P, probably because it helps release it! Thanks for sharing, Madeleen "wild.dingo" wrote: Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my latest saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3 months.E Range: 1.0-10.82/13: 10.03/20: 27.64/28: 32+P Range: 127-4462/13: 169.13/20: 203.84/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the range is 500-3000!T Range 6.0-49.02/13: 34.83/20: 21.84/28: 20.5DHEA Range: 106-300 2/13: 44.23/20: 51.74/28: 54.9O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant based on the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that jump in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley in November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing since march, is isocort and iodine.

Then the 4/28 test came in and he's in shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to say and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range and E range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that) or it is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He thinks that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is helping me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem, insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes, the WP is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system. I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4 months? I tell you how. It was hiding.

And I think we found it. He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try. But we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely does not involve BHRT tho! Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol… This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere. I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta tell you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health.

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May 7, 2008

, can you give more information on the E range for what time of the cycle this was taken. 32 does not sound high to me. And esp not in relation to your enormously high P. BUT the P is very interesting and yes it is most likely being released out of your tissues. Perhaps iodine plays a role in that. They do work synchronistically, so I would not be surprised. There have been women here who cannot take iodine and feel it is as if they have taken P, probably because it helps release it! Thanks for sharing, Madeleen "wild.dingo" wrote: Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my latest saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3 months.E Range: 1.0-10.82/13: 10.03/20: 27.64/28: 32+P Range: 127-4462/13: 169.13/20: 203.84/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the range is 500-3000!T Range 6.0-49.02/13: 34.83/20: 21.84/28: 20.5DHEA Range: 106-300 2/13: 44.23/20: 51.74/28: 54.9O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant based on the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that jump in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley in November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing since march, is isocort and iodine.

Then the 4/28 test came in and he's in shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to say and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range and E range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that) or it is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He thinks that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is helping me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem, insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes, the WP is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system. I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4 months? I tell you how. It was hiding.

And I think we found it. He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try. But we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely does not involve BHRT tho! Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol… This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere. I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta tell you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health.

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May 7, 2008

P detox in heavy mode simply kills my kidneys among many other things including amazing edema. Iodine kills my kidneys and gives me awful edema. Oddly it doesn't give me a headache or other things women report as being signs of bromide detox. Interesting idea that the iodine perhaps releases the progesterone... ??? To me they both seem like that very same thing in terms of how much I like 'em = not much at all. Laurel, can you give more information on the E range for what time of the cycle this was taken. 32 does not sound high to me. And esp not in relation to your enormously high P. BUT the P is very interesting and yes it is most likely being released out of your tissues. Perhaps iodine plays a role in that. They do work synchronistically, so I would not be surprised. There have been women here who cannot take iodine and feel it is as if they have taken P, probably because it helps release it!Thanks for sharing,Madeleen"wild.dingo" wrote:Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my latest saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3 months.E Range: 1.0-10.82/13: 10.03/20: 27.64/28: 32+P Range: 127-4462/13: 169.13/20: 203.84/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the range is 500-3000!T Range 6.0-49.02/13: 34.83/20: 21.84/28: 20.5DHEA Range: 106-300 2/13: 44.23/20: 51.74/28: 54.9O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant based on the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that jump in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley in November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing since march, is isocort and iodine. Then the 4/28 test came in and he's in shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to say and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range and E range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that) or it is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He thinks that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is helping me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem, insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes, the WP is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system. I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4 months? I tell you how. It was hiding. And I think we found it. He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try. But we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely does not involve BHRT tho! Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol… This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere. I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta tell you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

May 7, 2008

it seems.... WP = ticking time bomb for some of us.

Thanks for reporting that. Very interesting.

Your ND could call the urine testing labs to hear the shock from some

of those people about what they saw with some of the post WP

reports. It always seems so odd that the serum and saliva wasn't

showing up at the time the symptoms were so horrible, but Dr.

Formby's suggestion was that the hormones were likely getting pushed

into the organs, fat, and red blood cells.

When that much P is in my body there is no way I'm touching the DIM.

I want all that E 'cause for me, E = sleep. Maybe I missed

something. I thought the DIM was to increase the excretion of E. ?

Laurel

> Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my latest

> saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3 months.

>

> E Range: 1.0-10.8

> 2/13: 10.0

> 3/20: 27.6

> 4/28: 32+

>

> P Range: 127-446

> 2/13: 169.1

> 3/20: 203.8

> 4/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the range

> is 500-3000!

>

> T Range 6.0-49.0

> 2/13: 34.8

> 3/20: 21.8

> 4/28: 20.5

>

> DHEA Range: 106-300

> 2/13: 44.2

> 3/20: 51.7

> 4/28: 54.9

>

> O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant based on

> the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But

> note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that jump

> in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley in

> November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing since

> march, is isocort and iodine. Then the 4/28 test came in and he's in

> shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to say

> and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range and E

> range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that) or it

> is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He thinks

> that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They

> think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is helping

> me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-

> glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my

> ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem,

> insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes, the WP

> is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system.

>

> I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in

> progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4

> months? I tell you how. It was hiding. And I think we found it.

>

> He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try. But

> we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of

> Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely does

> not involve BHRT tho!

>

> Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol…

> This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who

> got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere.

>

> I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta tell

> you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health.

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

>

> **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

> intended as medical advice.**

May 7, 2008

The last 2 dates were day 21 of my cycle.

In talking with my ND, he states that the e in saliva is free, so the

ranges are much different than using e in blood, which is blood

binding. I'm now sort of in agreement with this saliva being too

high. my blood levels are normal. but in explaining the difference

between the free and blood binding to me, i think i understand why

saliva e tests are different and important for different reasons than

blood e levels which are in my opinion as important.

but the bottom line is he is no longer suggesting P to offset my high

E! halla-frickin-ljua!

> Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my

latest

> saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3

months.

>

> E Range: 1.0-10.8

> 2/13: 10.0

> 3/20: 27.6

> 4/28: 32+

>

> P Range: 127-446

> 2/13: 169.1

> 3/20: 203.8

> 4/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the

range

> is 500-3000!

>

> T Range 6.0-49.0

> 2/13: 34.8

> 3/20: 21.8

> 4/28: 20.5

>

> DHEA Range: 106-300

> 2/13: 44.2

> 3/20: 51.7

> 4/28: 54.9

>

> O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant based

on

> the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But

> note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that jump

> in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley in

> November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing

since

> march, is isocort and iodine. Then the 4/28 test came in and he's

in

> shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to

say

> and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range and

E

> range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that) or

it

> is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He

thinks

> that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They

> think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is helping

> me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-

> glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my

> ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem,

> insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes, the

WP

> is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system.

>

> I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in

> progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4

> months? I tell you how. It was hiding. And I think we found it.

>

> He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try.

But

> we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of

> Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely does

> not involve BHRT tho!

>

> Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol…

> This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who

> got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere.

>

> I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta tell

> you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health.

>

> ---------------------------------

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Try it now.

>

May 7, 2008

I think DIM helps " process " E. not sure. somehow its supposed to

level it out.

hmmm...

>

> > Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my latest

> > saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3

months.

> >

> > E Range: 1.0-10.8

> > 2/13: 10.0

> > 3/20: 27.6

> > 4/28: 32+

> >

> > P Range: 127-446

> > 2/13: 169.1

> > 3/20: 203.8

> > 4/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the

range

> > is 500-3000!

> >

> > T Range 6.0-49.0

> > 2/13: 34.8

> > 3/20: 21.8

> > 4/28: 20.5

> >

> > DHEA Range: 106-300

> > 2/13: 44.2

> > 3/20: 51.7

> > 4/28: 54.9

> >

> > O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant

based on

> > the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But

> > note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that

jump

> > in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley

in

> > November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing

since

> > march, is isocort and iodine. Then the 4/28 test came in and he's

in

> > shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to

say

> > and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range

and E

> > range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that)

or it

> > is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He

thinks

> > that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They

> > think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is

helping

> > me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-

> > glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my

> > ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem,

> > insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes,

the WP

> > is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system.

> >

> > I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in

> > progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4

> > months? I tell you how. It was hiding. And I think we found it.

> >

> > He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try.

But

> > we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of

> > Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely

does

> > not involve BHRT tho!

> >

> > Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol…

> > This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who

> > got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere.

> >

> > I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta

tell

> > you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health.

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> >

> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

> > intended as medical advice.**

May 7, 2008

Laurel,

are you still detoxing the P? if so, how long were you on WP and how

long have you been off?

> > Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my latest

> > saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3

months.

> >

> > E Range: 1.0-10.8

> > 2/13: 10.0

> > 3/20: 27.6

> > 4/28: 32+

> >

> > P Range: 127-446

> > 2/13: 169.1

> > 3/20: 203.8

> > 4/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the

range

> > is 500-3000!

> >

> > T Range 6.0-49.0

> > 2/13: 34.8

> > 3/20: 21.8

> > 4/28: 20.5

> >

> > DHEA Range: 106-300

> > 2/13: 44.2

> > 3/20: 51.7

> > 4/28: 54.9

> >

> > O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant

based on

> > the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But

> > note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that

jump

> > in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley

in

> > November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing

since

> > march, is isocort and iodine. Then the 4/28 test came in and he's

in

> > shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to

say

> > and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range

and E

> > range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that)

or it

> > is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He

thinks

> > that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They

> > think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is

helping

> > me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-

> > glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my

> > ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem,

> > insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes,

the WP

> > is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system.

> >

> > I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in

> > progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4

> > months? I tell you how. It was hiding. And I think we found it.

> >

> > He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try.

But

> > we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of

> > Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely

does

> > not involve BHRT tho!

> >

> > Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol…

> > This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who

> > got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere.

> >

> > I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta

tell

> > you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health.

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo!

Mobile.

> > Try it now.

>

May 7, 2008

well, i did tell him i was using an online support group to learn

stuff, he's kind of tickled that i know so much (and i feel like i

know nothing really).

so i don't think he really understood the WP until the other day when

my results came back and he asked how much i was taking. i told him

to multiply 25x4 and 25x14 for the P and for the E i said anywhere up

to 28 mg/day... he said " wow! No wonder there is a support group for

women who've done this. "

he really had NO idea how much was in the WP. just that it was high.

until i told him. and he almost fell off his chair.

at first he thought the P was sitting around in even my

ovaries...hence the cysts... and possibly one of them just sort of

burst or released all this P... i don't know. all i know is that it

was hiding and now somehow it is coming out and metabolising via the

results. (at least i think that's what's happening). Only time will

really tell month after month. but it was a true shocker to see the

huge jump in P. the lab people retested it just to be sure!

>

> > Ok, for all you science gurus out there, get a hold of my latest

> > saliva results. I'm going to put them in order over the last 3

months.

> >

> > E Range: 1.0-10.8

> > 2/13: 10.0

> > 3/20: 27.6

> > 4/28: 32+

> >

> > P Range: 127-446

> > 2/13: 169.1

> > 3/20: 203.8

> > 4/28: 7854.3 -- This is NOT a typo! Note: if supplementing the

range

> > is 500-3000!

> >

> > T Range 6.0-49.0

> > 2/13: 34.8

> > 3/20: 21.8

> > 4/28: 20.5

> >

> > DHEA Range: 106-300

> > 2/13: 44.2

> > 3/20: 51.7

> > 4/28: 54.9

> >

> > O.k… For 2 months now he's been saying I'm estrogen dominant

based on

> > the range. I've resisted the notion knowing the WP too well. But

> > note the E levels kept going up each month. But check out that

jump

> > in P this month (4/28)! I'm not taking ANY BHRT. I stopped Wiley

in

> > November and all hormones in December. The ONLY thing I'm doing

since

> > march, is isocort and iodine. Then the 4/28 test came in and he's

in

> > shock. He's never seen anything like this! He didn't know what to

say

> > and had to consult peers who basically confirmed, this P range

and E

> > range is either me putting it on, (I'm sooooooo NOT doing that)

or it

> > is the WP detox. He no longer thinks I'm estrogen dominent. He

thinks

> > that I'm toxic in both estrogen and mainly progesterone now. They

> > think because I'm NOW on iodine, specifically iodine, it is

helping

> > me detox faster and showing up now plus the DIM and the Calcium D-

> > glutcarate will also detox. I've never been more certain (as is my

> > ND) that I'm now on the right track for my original problem,

> > insomnia. And now on the right track to get this WP crap (yes,

the WP

> > is crap, but not BHRT) out of my system.

> >

> > I'm mean, holy cow….how in the world did I go from 203 to 7854 in

> > progesterone in one month after having NOT taking any BHRT in 4

> > months? I tell you how. It was hiding. And I think we found it.

> >

> > He has another idea to help me detox even faster that I may try.

But

> > we're going to wait a bit until I settle in with my teeny dose of

> > Armour that I started this month. I can tell you it definitely

does

> > not involve BHRT tho!

> >

> > Note that the DHEA is climbing slowly with the help of cortisol…

> > This is what happens to a woman doing the WP for only 5 months…who

> > got sicker. P definitely stores and hides somewhere.

> >

> > I don't know about anyone claiming to love the WP, but I gotta

tell

> > you, it did me the greatest injustice to my health.

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> >

> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

> > intended as medical advice.**

May 7, 2008

Did the response to iodine include feeling like a water balloon? I felt like

that on high doses of iodine, started storing so much water that I almost

could hear the sloshing when I jiggled.

My ND says that the body will often retain water while detoxing in order to

dilute the problematic substance. I hadn’t taken any hormones when this

happened last summer, only upped the iodine.

I also did not get any of the headache iodine symptoms. Wondering if there

is a clue in iodine and metabolic type, maybe protein types don’t need as

much iodine as the endocrine system is different?

I have backed off the large iodine supplements because I wasn’t getting any

of the dramatic improvements that others report, nothing particularly bad

either. Now take pulsed doses just in case it does help with breast cysts,

so far though not so much. The estrogel has helped a lot however. Cysts are

still there but no pain, no inflammation, continuous improvement. That has

been quite dramatic.

Karima

P detox in heavy mode simply kills my kidneys among many other things

including amazing edema. Iodine kills my kidneys and gives me awful edema.

Oddly it doesn't give me a headache or other things women report as being

signs of bromide detox. Interesting idea that the iodine perhaps releases

the progesterone... ??? To me they both seem like that very same thing in

terms of how much I like 'em = not much at all.

Laurel

, can you give more information on the E range for what time of the

cycle this was taken. 32 does not sound high to me. And esp not in relation

to your enormously high P. BUT the P is very interesting and yes it is most

likely being released out of your tissues. Perhaps iodine plays a role in

that. They do work synchronistically, so I would not be surprised. There

have been women here who cannot take iodine and feel it is as if they have

taken P, probably because it helps release it! Thanks for sharing, Madeleen

May 8, 2008

Have you correlated how you felt at these different points in your cycle to see

if you " feel "

better at a particular hormone balance? That might be very helpful in guiding

you to the

right balance for you.

-- In rhythmicliving , " wild.dingo " wrote: