Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

July 25, 2009

In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:22:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

barbara_debelius@... writes:

Does anybody know of a SIMPLE list that tells me the commonly known foods

not to eat and foods I CAN eat?

It is not the same for everyone. It is a matter of paying attention to

how you feel and what works. You know it is not all that hard. Along with

FMS & OA I have had back problems for many years. Probably more arthritis,

but the point is that I must sleep on my back. I have heard many people

say, " oh, I could never do that. " My stock answer (cranky, I know) is " well, I

guess you don't hurt badly enough yet. " Food choices are the same thing,

IMO. Saying that, I freely admit that on some days it is just sucky enough

that I say to hell with it and eat what I choose. I probably pay down the

road. As you all know, the FMS pain may come a day or three after the

fact anyway, so it is sometimes hard to tell what causes what. I see that

many of us have IBS. I am a type O and try to eat for my type. Wheat and

corn are a HUGE avoid for me, along with white potatoes. And that means HFCS,

corn oil, corn starch. Corn in any form is out. Ditto wheat, including

bread, pasta, crackers, cookies etc. I know, it is a giant pain. However,

so is FMS. For the last two weeks there has been lots of stress in my life.

Nothing that is fatal and nothing that will not pass, but stress

nonetheless. I live alone and have no one to help out on a daily basis. I

take

care of the animals and work from home. Most days, I get by OK. Sometimes

everything seems to get ahead of me. As a result, this week I have had

wheat in some form about every other day. I mean, how stupid is that? I have

no energy. I have increased pain and my digestive system is not up to

par. Again, nothing serious, but enough to remind me what a dumb s**t I have

been. So I am going to concentrate on what works for me. No processed

foods. Nothing in a box. Plenty of protein (fish, turkey, buffalo are great,

limited chicken and beef for me) and lots of fresh vegetables. A limited

amount of brown rice a couple of times a week. I love the Shirataki noodles

and eat them at dinner two or three times a week. (_www.miraclenoodle.com_

(http://www.miraclenoodle.com) ) A little fruit, since I don't need the

sugar, along with some cottage cheese. I have a great source for raw milk

and have raw milk and some organic raw eggs almost every morning. Lunch

might be a big salad, left over dinner from yesterday or cottage and a little

fruit. Dinner is a good serving of protein, noodles or brown rice, two

vegetables normally, maybe greens and broccoli or beets or asparagus.

Fortunately, I have always been good about drinking plenty of water. And since

it

was 107' here last Saturday and over 100' every day until Thursday, it is

easy to keep hydrated. I keep away from acid foods like strawberries and

citrus, since they may exacerbate the FMS pain. I have planted low acid

tomatoes in the garden and will eat them moderately as long as they keep

producing and I see no negative results. Basically, eat a good variety of

foods.

Try growing some of your own, even if it is in a half barrel on your

patio. Chard is very good, as is spinach. Saute with some butter, salt,

pepper and garlic. Buy asparagus when it is in season and freeze for later.

Now is the season for farmers markets. The produce is local and often grown

without harmful chemicals. Try something different each week. Season

well. Make enough for the next day so if you are tired, meals are easy. Buy

some vegetables now and chop and bag up and freeze. Try carrots, celery,

any available greens and onions for a good start for winter soups and stews.

I freeze tomatoes in small zip lock bags for use in winter soups and

sauces. That way I don't use too much, but still have the color and a little

flavor. Slice up bell peppers and onions and freeze for stir fry. Come cooler

weather think crock pot or slow cooker. Or even now for pot roast or

chicken and you don't have to heat up your house. While the heat just sucks

the energy right out of me, I have more OA pain in the winter time. So I try

to do a little extra this time of the year, early in the AM before it gets

hot. I always feel better when I can reach into the freezer and grab

something healthy rather than grab the frozen bread (which should not be there

in the first place) and try for a sandwich.

Bottom line I would say to everyone, eliminate wheat, corn and all sugar.

Use Stevia instead to the artificial chemical sweeteners which are poison.

Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat local. Avoid processed foods. Keep a food diary

if necessary. This will show you what works and what does not, keeping in

mind that positive and negative symptoms may show up a day or two later.

Keep positive. Pray and be thankful. There are many people who have a

fatal disease. This one is bad enough, but I am thankful for every day and I

know that if I keep searching I will find answers that will make me

physically better.

Pam in ID

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July 29, 2009

Man brain fog and lack of cognitive function make understanding how to do that

very hard. About the carbs. I need to try that.

Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

>

> WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE OUR GOOD

> NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH. THANK YOU.

>

> On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo " <buckeye@...

> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net> > wrote:

>

>> >

>> > I have to agree. I went low carb in April and have lost 30 lbs, feel

>> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I also stay away from all acidic

>> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw onions.

>> > -jo

>> >

>> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB EATING PRETTY MUCH WILL KEEP YOU OFF GLUTEN

> AND

>>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO WHAT¹S RECOMMENDED FOR TYPE 11 DIABETICS AND

> IT

>>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY MEDICATIONS FOR DIABETES. I ALSO LOST ALL THE WEIGHT

> DOING

>>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I WENT FROM 215 POUNDS DOWN 135 WHICH I

> MAINTAIN

>>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT. PLUS I DON¹T GET ALL THE FM SYMPTOMS I HAD WHEN

>>>> >> > I WAS

>>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > THANKS

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM, " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@...

>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>> >> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>> >> > <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > > To make things simple i follow a ketogenic diet. rather than list

>>>> >> > the foods i

>>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will list them i do. ALL meat fish cheese eggs seeds

>>>> >> > nuts seeds

>>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb veg and fruit and low carb/calorie jelly. In

>>>>>> addition

>>>> >> > i take a

>>>>>> >>> > > multitude of vitamins that include codliver oil, evening primrose

> oil,

>>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and pro-biotics, This sounds difficult but it is

>>>> >> > incredibly

>>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT WORKS. If you want to try it for yourself simply

>>>> >> > get a book

>>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes low carb eating i.e. the Dr Atkins Book. In there

it

>>>> >> > will telll

>>>>>> >>> > > you how and why low carb eating helps a multitude of illnesses.

For

>>>> >> > me eating

>>>>>> >>> > > a very very low carb diet has lifted 80% of my symptoms and i now

>>>> >> > lead a very

>>>>>> >>> > > functional life. It is hard to believe but diets that are low

fat,

>>>> >> > high carb

>>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this illness no end. All i ask is that you give it one

>>>> >> > month on a

>>>>>> >>> > > very strict low carb diet and see if it works for you

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:22:18 AM Mountain

>>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@ yahoo.com <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a SIMPLE list that tells me the

commonly

>>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN eat?

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for everyone. It is a matter of

paying

>>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what works. You know it is not all that

hard.

>>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back problems for many years.

>>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I must sleep on my back. I have

heard

> many

>>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do that. " My stock answer

(cranky, I

> know)

> is

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly enough yet. " Food choices are

the

> same

>>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely admit that on some days it is

just

>>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with it and eat what I choose. I

probably

> pay

>>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know, the FMS pain may come a day or

three

> after

> the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is sometimes hard to tell what causes

what.

> I

>>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am a type O and try to eat for my

type.

>>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for me, along with white potatoes.

And

> that

>>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch. Corn in any form is out. Ditto

wheat,

>>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers, cookies etc. I know, it is a

giant

> pain.

>>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last two weeks there has been lots of

stress

>>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and nothing that will not pass,

but

> stress

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone and have no one to help out on

a

> daily

>>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and work from home. Most days, I get

by OK.

>>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get ahead of me. As a result, this

week I

>>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about every other day. I mean, how

stupid is

>>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have increased pain and my digestive system

is

> not up

> to

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing serious, but enough to remind me

what a

> dumb

>>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to concentrate on what works for me.

No

>>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box. Plenty of protein (fish,

turkey,

> buffalo

> are

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef for me) and lots of fresh

vegetables.

> A

>>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a couple of times a week. I love

the

>>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner two or three times a week.

>>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen oodle.com) ) A little fruit, since

I don't

>>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some cottage cheese. I have a great

source

> for

>>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some organic raw eggs almost every

> morning.

>>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left over dinner from yesterday or

> cottage

>>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good serving of protein, noodles or

brown

>>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe greens and broccoli or beets

or

>>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always been good about drinking

plenty of

>>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last Saturday and over 100' every day

until

>>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I keep away from acid foods like

>>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may exacerbate the FMS pain. I have

planted

>>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and will eat them moderately as

long as

>>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no negative results. Basically, eat

a good

>>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your own, even if it is in a half

barrel on

> your

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very good, as is spinach. Saute with

some

> butter,

>>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy asparagus when it is in season

and

> freeze

>>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for farmers markets. The produce is

local and

>>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful chemicals. Try something different each

week.

> Season

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the next day so if you are tired,

meals

> are

>>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and chop and bag up and freeze. Try

> carrots,

>>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and onions for a good start for

winter

> soups

> and

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in small zip lock bags for use in

winter

> soups

> and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't use too much, but still have

the

> color and

> a

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell peppers and onions and freeze for

stir

> fry.

>>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or slow cooker. Or even now for

pot

> roast

> or

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't have to heat up your house. While

the

> heat

>>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of me, I have more OA pain in the

winter

>>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this time of the year, early in the

AM

>>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better when I can reach into the

freezer and

> grab

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather than grab the frozen bread

(which

> should

>>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and try for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to everyone, eliminate wheat,

corn and

>>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the artificial chemical sweeteners

which

>>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat local. Avoid processed foods.

Keep a

>>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will show you what works and what

does not,

>>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and negative symptoms may show up a

day or

> two

>>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be thankful. There are many

people who

> have

> a

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one is bad enough, but I am thankful

for

>>>> >> > every day and

>>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep searching I will find answers that

will

> make me

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Pam in ID

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

yours

> in

>>>> >> > just 2

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> easy

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > steps!

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122258

> 5106x1201462830/

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>>>> >> > hmpgID=115 & bcd

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>>>>>> >>>>> amp;hmpgID=

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> 115 & bcd>

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > =JulystepsfooterNO1 15)

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

July 29, 2009

I ll save it for reference. Yes!

Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

>> >

>> > WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE OUR GOOD

>> > NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH. THANK YOU.

>> >

>> > On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo " <buckeye@...

>> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

>> > <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net> > wrote:

>> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I have to agree. I went low carb in April and have lost 30 lbs, feel

>>>> >> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I also stay away from all acidic

>>>> >> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw onions.

>>>> >> > -jo

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB EATING PRETTY MUCH WILL KEEP YOU OFF

GLUTEN

>> > AND

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO WHAT¹S RECOMMENDED FOR TYPE 11

>>>>>>>> DIABETICS AND

>> > IT

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY MEDICATIONS FOR DIABETES. I ALSO LOST ALL THE

WEIGHT

>> > DOING

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I WENT FROM 215 POUNDS DOWN 135 WHICH

I

>> > MAINTAIN

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT. PLUS I DON¹T GET ALL THE FM SYMPTOMS I

HAD WHEN

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I WAS

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THANKS

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM, " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@...

>>>>>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>> >>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>> >>> >> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > To make things simple i follow a ketogenic diet.

>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than list

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > the foods i

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will list them i do. ALL meat fish

>>>>>>>>>>>> cheese eggs seeds

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > nuts seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb veg and fruit and low carb/calorie

jelly. In

>>>>>>> >>>>>> addition

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > i take a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multitude of vitamins that include codliver oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> evening primrose

>> > oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and pro-biotics, This sounds difficult

but it is

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > incredibly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT WORKS. If you want to try it for

>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself simply

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > get a book

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes low carb eating i.e. the Dr Atkins

>>>>>>>>>>>> Book. In there

> it

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > will telll

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > you how and why low carb eating helps a multitude of

illnesses.

> For

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > me eating

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > a very very low carb diet has lifted 80% of my

>>>>>>>>>>>> symptoms and i now

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > lead a very

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > functional life. It is hard to believe but diets

that are low

> fat,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > high carb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this illness no end. All i ask is that you

give it one

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > month on a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > very strict low carb diet and see if it works for

you

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:22:18 AM

Mountain

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@ yahoo.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a SIMPLE list that

tells me the

> commonly

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN eat?

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for everyone. It is a

matter of

> paying

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what works. You know it is

not all that

> hard.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back problems for many

years.

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I must sleep on my

back. I have

> heard

>> > many

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do that. " My stock

answer

> (cranky, I

>> > know)

>> > is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly enough yet. "

Food choices are

> the

>> > same

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely admit that on

some days it is

> just

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with it and eat what I

choose. I

> probably

>> > pay

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know, the FMS pain may

come a day or

> three

>> > after

>> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is sometimes hard to

tell what causes

> what.

>> > I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am a type O and try

to eat for my

> type.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for me, along with

white potatoes.

> And

>> > that

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch. Corn in any form is

out. Ditto

> wheat,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers, cookies etc. I

know, it is a

> giant

>> > pain.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last two weeks there has

been lots of

> stress

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and nothing that will

not pass,

> but

>> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone and have no one

to help out on

> a

>> > daily

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and work from home.

Most days, I get

> by OK.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get ahead of me. As a

result, this

> week I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about every other day. I

mean, how

> stupid is

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have increased pain and my

digestive system

> is

>> > not up

>> > to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing serious, but enough to

remind me

> what a

>> > dumb

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to concentrate on what

works for me.

> No

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box. Plenty of protein

(fish,

> turkey,

>> > buffalo

>> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef for me) and lots

of fresh

> vegetables.

>> > A

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a couple of times a

week. I love

> the

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner two or three times a

week.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen oodle.com) ) A little

fruit, since

> I don't

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some cottage cheese. I

have a great

> source

>> > for

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some organic raw eggs

almost every

>> > morning.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left over dinner from

yesterday or

>> > cottage

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good serving of protein,

noodles or

> brown

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe greens and

broccoli or beets

> or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always been good about

drinking

> plenty of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last Saturday and over 100'

every day

> until

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I keep away from

acid foods like

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may exacerbate the FMS

pain. I have

> planted

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and will eat them

moderately as

> long as

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no negative results.

Basically, eat

> a good

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your own, even if it is

in a half

> barrel on

>> > your

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very good, as is spinach.

Saute with

> some

>> > butter,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy asparagus when it is

in season

> and

>> > freeze

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for farmers markets. The

produce is

> local and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful chemicals. Try something

different each

> week.

>> > Season

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the next day so if

you are tired,

> meals

>> > are

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and chop and bag up and

freeze. Try

>> > carrots,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and onions for a good

start for

> winter

>> > soups

>> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in small zip lock bags

for use in

> winter

>> > soups

>> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't use too much, but

still have

> the

>> > color and

>> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell peppers and onions

and freeze for

> stir

>> > fry.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or slow cooker. Or

even now for

> pot

>> > roast

>> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't have to heat up your

house. While

> the

>> > heat

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of me, I have more OA

pain in the

> winter

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this time of the year,

early in the

> AM

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better when I can reach

into the

> freezer and

>> > grab

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather than grab the

frozen bread

> (which

>> > should

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and try for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to everyone,

eliminate wheat,

> corn and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the artificial

chemical sweeteners

> which

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat local. Avoid

processed foods.

> Keep a

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will show you what works

and what

> does not,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and negative symptoms

may show up a

> day or

>> > two

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be thankful. There

are many

> people who

>> > have

>> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one is bad enough, but

I am thankful

> for

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep searching I will find

answers that

> will

>> > make me

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Pam in ID

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700

or Above. See

> yours

>> > in

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just 2

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> easy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > steps!

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/

100126575x122258

>> > 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/

>>>>>>>>>>>> default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > hmpgID=115 & bcd

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > <http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/

100126575x122258

>> > 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/

>>>>>>>>>>>> default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> amp;hmpgID=

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> 115 & bcd>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > =JulystepsfooterNO1 15)

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have

been removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

July 29, 2009

>

> low carb is hard when you hypoglycemia. my body is used to high carb.

> ine

Hi,

sorry about the previous post, as I hit the wrong key. I used to have

hypoglycemia, but I gradually quit the high carbs, and started eating meats, or

eggs, along with low carb vegetables, and good fats such as extra virgin coconut

oil, butter, and extra virgin olive oil. I no longer get hungry between meals,

also no longer have an over active bladder, and I hurt less. Someone else

posted, about Hypoglycemia, and fibromyalgia going hand in hand. If you help

one, you help the other.

C.

July 29, 2009

Hi pauline:

I read your two emails. There is a possibility that you are depressed

because of the sweets. The little satisfaction your get from it only lasts

a few seconds then your blood sugar starts its descent. When it crashes you

get depressed, tired, foggy and various other symptoms. That is

hypoglycemia. The more high carb you eat, the more high carb you will

crave. It is just like an addiction. If you treat it like an addiction you

will give those high carbs the respect they deserve because they are a

powerful pull on our system.

You need to start slow. Just do one meal without high carbs for a whole

week. For example, maybe you could have eggs with a little bit of oatmeal

for breakfast. Or just have eggs with some meat like an omelette. Then for

lunch eat what you normally eat, only try to half your carbs. Then for the

rest of the day do what you have been doing lately.

Then next week try to cut the carbs at dinner in half. Do that for a week.

If you went low carb all of a sudden you would feel terrible. Its a shock

to the system and you would detoxify which causes pain and emotional

upheaval.

Does that help?

rosemarie

>

> low carb is hard when you hypoglycemia. my body is used to high carb.

> ine

>

> Original Message:

> -----------------

> From: Rosemarie Tropf rosemarie@... <mailto:rosemarie%40intnet.net>

> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:25:00 -0400

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

>

> WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE OUR GOOD

> NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH. THANK YOU.

>

> On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo " <buckeye@...

> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net> > wrote:

>

>> >

>> > I have to agree. I went low carb in April and have lost 30 lbs, feel

>> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I also stay away from all acidic

>> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw onions.

>> > -jo

>> >

>> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB EATING PRETTY MUCH WILL KEEP YOU OFF GLUTEN

> AND

>>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO WHAT¹S RECOMMENDED FOR TYPE 11 DIABETICS AND

> IT

>>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY MEDICATIONS FOR DIABETES. I ALSO LOST ALL THE WEIGHT

> DOING

>>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I WENT FROM 215 POUNDS DOWN 135 WHICH I

> MAINTAIN

>>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT. PLUS I DON¹T GET ALL THE FM SYMPTOMS I HAD WHEN

>>>> >> > I WAS

>>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > THANKS

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM, " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@...

>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>> >> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>> >> > <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > > To make things simple i follow a ketogenic diet. rather than list

>>>> >> > the foods i

>>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will list them i do. ALL meat fish cheese eggs seeds

>>>> >> > nuts seeds

>>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb veg and fruit and low carb/calorie jelly. In

>>>>>> addition

>>>> >> > i take a

>>>>>> >>> > > multitude of vitamins that include codliver oil, evening primrose

> oil,

>>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and pro-biotics, This sounds difficult but it is

>>>> >> > incredibly

>>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT WORKS. If you want to try it for yourself simply

>>>> >> > get a book

>>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes low carb eating i.e. the Dr Atkins Book. In there

it

>>>> >> > will telll

>>>>>> >>> > > you how and why low carb eating helps a multitude of illnesses.

For

>>>> >> > me eating

>>>>>> >>> > > a very very low carb diet has lifted 80% of my symptoms and i now

>>>> >> > lead a very

>>>>>> >>> > > functional life. It is hard to believe but diets that are low

fat,

>>>> >> > high carb

>>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this illness no end. All i ask is that you give it one

>>>> >> > month on a

>>>>>> >>> > > very strict low carb diet and see if it works for you

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:22:18 AM Mountain

>>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@ yahoo.com <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a SIMPLE list that tells me the

commonly

>>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN eat?

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for everyone. It is a matter of

paying

>>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what works. You know it is not all that

hard.

>>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back problems for many years.

>>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I must sleep on my back. I have

heard

> many

>>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do that. " My stock answer

(cranky, I

> know)

> is

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly enough yet. " Food choices are

the

> same

>>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely admit that on some days it is

just

>>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with it and eat what I choose. I

probably

> pay

>>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know, the FMS pain may come a day or

three

> after

> the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is sometimes hard to tell what causes

what.

> I

>>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am a type O and try to eat for my

type.

>>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for me, along with white potatoes.

And

> that

>>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch. Corn in any form is out. Ditto

wheat,

>>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers, cookies etc. I know, it is a

giant

> pain.

>>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last two weeks there has been lots of

stress

>>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and nothing that will not pass,

but

> stress

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone and have no one to help out on

a

> daily

>>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and work from home. Most days, I get

by OK.

>>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get ahead of me. As a result, this

week I

>>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about every other day. I mean, how

stupid is

>>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have increased pain and my digestive system

is

> not up

> to

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing serious, but enough to remind me

what a

> dumb

>>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to concentrate on what works for me.

No

>>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box. Plenty of protein (fish,

turkey,

> buffalo

> are

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef for me) and lots of fresh

vegetables.

> A

>>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a couple of times a week. I love

the

>>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner two or three times a week.

>>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen oodle.com) ) A little fruit, since

I don't

>>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some cottage cheese. I have a great

source

> for

>>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some organic raw eggs almost every

> morning.

>>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left over dinner from yesterday or

> cottage

>>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good serving of protein, noodles or

brown

>>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe greens and broccoli or beets

or

>>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always been good about drinking

plenty of

>>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last Saturday and over 100' every day

until

>>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I keep away from acid foods like

>>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may exacerbate the FMS pain. I have

planted

>>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and will eat them moderately as

long as

>>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no negative results. Basically, eat

a good

>>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your own, even if it is in a half

barrel on

> your

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very good, as is spinach. Saute with

some

> butter,

>>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy asparagus when it is in season

and

> freeze

>>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for farmers markets. The produce is

local and

>>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful chemicals. Try something different each

week.

> Season

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the next day so if you are tired,

meals

> are

>>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and chop and bag up and freeze. Try

> carrots,

>>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and onions for a good start for

winter

> soups

> and

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in small zip lock bags for use in

winter

> soups

> and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't use too much, but still have

the

> color and

> a

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell peppers and onions and freeze for

stir

> fry.

>>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or slow cooker. Or even now for

pot

> roast

> or

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't have to heat up your house. While

the

> heat

>>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of me, I have more OA pain in the

winter

>>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this time of the year, early in the

AM

>>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better when I can reach into the

freezer and

> grab

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather than grab the frozen bread

(which

> should

>>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and try for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to everyone, eliminate wheat,

corn and

>>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the artificial chemical sweeteners

which

>>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat local. Avoid processed foods.

Keep a

>>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will show you what works and what

does not,

>>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and negative symptoms may show up a

day or

> two

>>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be thankful. There are many

people who

> have

> a

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one is bad enough, but I am thankful

for

>>>> >> > every day and

>>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep searching I will find answers that

will

> make me

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Pam in ID

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

yours

> in

>>>> >> > just 2

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> easy

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > steps!

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122258

> 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/ default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>> >> > hmpgID=115 & bcd

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > <http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122258

> 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/ default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>>>> >>>>> amp;hmpgID=

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> 115 & bcd>

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > =JulystepsfooterNO1 15)

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

July 29, 2009

I totally understand about the brain fog. I have it too somedays.

Well do you know where to start to get off the carbs?

If not, replace some of your carbs in each meal with meat/eggs. For example

instead of spaghetti have an extra piece of chicken. Instead of a chocolate

bar have a slice of meat or a boiled egg. Instead of coke, have water or

herbal tea.

Does that help?

>

> Man brain fog and lack of cognitive function make understanding how to do that

> very hard. About the carbs. I need to try that.

>

> Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

>> >

>> > WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE OUR GOOD

>> > NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH. THANK YOU.

>> >

>> > On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo " <buckeye@...

>> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

>> > <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net> > wrote:

>> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I have to agree. I went low carb in April and have lost 30 lbs, feel

>>>> >> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I also stay away from all acidic

>>>> >> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw onions.

>>>> >> > -jo

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB EATING PRETTY MUCH WILL KEEP YOU OFF

GLUTEN

>> > AND

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO WHAT¹S RECOMMENDED FOR TYPE 11

>>>>>>>> DIABETICS AND

>> > IT

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY MEDICATIONS FOR DIABETES. I ALSO LOST ALL THE

WEIGHT

>> > DOING

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I WENT FROM 215 POUNDS DOWN 135 WHICH

I

>> > MAINTAIN

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT. PLUS I DON¹T GET ALL THE FM SYMPTOMS I

HAD WHEN

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I WAS

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THANKS

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM, " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@...

>>>>>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>> >>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>> >>> >> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > To make things simple i follow a ketogenic diet.

>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than list

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > the foods i

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will list them i do. ALL meat fish

>>>>>>>>>>>> cheese eggs seeds

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > nuts seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb veg and fruit and low carb/calorie

jelly. In

>>>>>>> >>>>>> addition

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > i take a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multitude of vitamins that include codliver oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> evening primrose

>> > oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and pro-biotics, This sounds difficult

but it is

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > incredibly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT WORKS. If you want to try it for

>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself simply

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > get a book

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes low carb eating i.e. the Dr Atkins

>>>>>>>>>>>> Book. In there

> it

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > will telll

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > you how and why low carb eating helps a multitude of

illnesses.

> For

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > me eating

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > a very very low carb diet has lifted 80% of my

>>>>>>>>>>>> symptoms and i now

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > lead a very

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > functional life. It is hard to believe but diets

that are low

> fat,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > high carb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this illness no end. All i ask is that you

give it one

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > month on a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > very strict low carb diet and see if it works for

you

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:22:18 AM

Mountain

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@ yahoo.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a SIMPLE list that

tells me the

> commonly

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN eat?

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for everyone. It is a

matter of

> paying

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what works. You know it is

not all that

> hard.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back problems for many

years.

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I must sleep on my

back. I have

> heard

>> > many

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do that. " My stock

answer

> (cranky, I

>> > know)

>> > is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly enough yet. "

Food choices are

> the

>> > same

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely admit that on

some days it is

> just

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with it and eat what I

choose. I

> probably

>> > pay

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know, the FMS pain may

come a day or

> three

>> > after

>> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is sometimes hard to

tell what causes

> what.

>> > I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am a type O and try

to eat for my

> type.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for me, along with

white potatoes.

> And

>> > that

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch. Corn in any form is

out. Ditto

> wheat,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers, cookies etc. I

know, it is a

> giant

>> > pain.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last two weeks there has

been lots of

> stress

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and nothing that will

not pass,

> but

>> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone and have no one

to help out on

> a

>> > daily

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and work from home.

Most days, I get

> by OK.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get ahead of me. As a

result, this

> week I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about every other day. I

mean, how

> stupid is

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have increased pain and my

digestive system

> is

>> > not up

>> > to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing serious, but enough to

remind me

> what a

>> > dumb

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to concentrate on what

works for me.

> No

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box. Plenty of protein

(fish,

> turkey,

>> > buffalo

>> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef for me) and lots

of fresh

> vegetables.

>> > A

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a couple of times a

week. I love

> the

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner two or three times a

week.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen oodle.com) ) A little

fruit, since

> I don't

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some cottage cheese. I

have a great

> source

>> > for

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some organic raw eggs

almost every

>> > morning.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left over dinner from

yesterday or

>> > cottage

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good serving of protein,

noodles or

> brown

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe greens and

broccoli or beets

> or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always been good about

drinking

> plenty of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last Saturday and over 100'

every day

> until

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I keep away from

acid foods like

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may exacerbate the FMS

pain. I have

> planted

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and will eat them

moderately as

> long as

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no negative results.

Basically, eat

> a good

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your own, even if it is

in a half

> barrel on

>> > your

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very good, as is spinach.

Saute with

> some

>> > butter,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy asparagus when it is

in season

> and

>> > freeze

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for farmers markets. The

produce is

> local and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful chemicals. Try something

different each

> week.

>> > Season

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the next day so if

you are tired,

> meals

>> > are

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and chop and bag up and

freeze. Try

>> > carrots,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and onions for a good

start for

> winter

>> > soups

>> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in small zip lock bags

for use in

> winter

>> > soups

>> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't use too much, but

still have

> the

>> > color and

>> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell peppers and onions

and freeze for

> stir

>> > fry.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or slow cooker. Or

even now for

> pot

>> > roast

>> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't have to heat up your

house. While

> the

>> > heat

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of me, I have more OA

pain in the

> winter

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this time of the year,

early in the

> AM

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better when I can reach

into the

> freezer and

>> > grab

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather than grab the

frozen bread

> (which

>> > should

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and try for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to everyone,

eliminate wheat,

> corn and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the artificial

chemical sweeteners

> which

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat local. Avoid

processed foods.

> Keep a

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will show you what works

and what

> does not,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and negative symptoms

may show up a

> day or

>> > two

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be thankful. There

are many

> people who

>> > have

>> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one is bad enough, but

I am thankful

> for

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep searching I will find

answers that

> will

>> > make me

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Pam in ID

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700

or Above. See

> yours

>> > in

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just 2

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> easy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > steps!

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100126575x122258

>> > 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/

>>>>>>>>>>>> default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > hmpgID=115 & bcd

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > <http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/

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>> > 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/

>>>>>>>>>>>> default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> amp;hmpgID=

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> 115 & bcd>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > =JulystepsfooterNO1 15)

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have

been removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

July 29, 2009

Dear ,

Okay, here goes on what the doctor told me about sweets and wheat especially

those with candida problems.

First of all you know candida is an over growth of yeast in your body

intestines. Sometimes you even feel that there is a rock or something inside the

stomach area. This is extreme yeast overgrowth.

As it was explained to me, when you eat wheat it turns into sugar. When you eat

sweets you already have the sugar. The sugar in your intestines with the

candida(yeast) turns into alcohol- like symptoms. That is why sometimes you feel

a woozy, brain foggy, confusion, short attention span(not ADD), and, oops, I'm

not balancing right kinda feeling. Your body is kinda acting in a drunken state.

Now, friends, this is what the doctor explained to me. Remember I mentioned a

while back I 'scored' second to the highest of candida in my state(Boy, what a

record to be remembered by).

This is why many should get off the wheats almost immediately to fend off alot

of these symptoms. This is what candida and its symptoms is all about.

But, again, this was my case. Hope many of you can understand this

beast(candida, not me) a little better.

M

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:22:18 AM Mountain

>>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@ yahoo.com <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a SIMPLE list that tells me the

commonly

>>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN eat?

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for everyone. It is a matter of

paying

>>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what works. You know it is not all that

hard.

>>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back problems for many years.

>>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I must sleep on my back. I have

heard

> many

>>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do that. " My stock answer

(cranky, I

> know)

> is

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly enough yet. " Food choices are

the

> same

>>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely admit that on some days it is

just

>>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with it and eat what I choose. I

probably

> pay

>>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know, the FMS pain may come a day or

three

> after

> the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is sometimes hard to tell what causes

what.

> I

>>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am a type O and try to eat for my

type.

>>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for me, along with white potatoes.

And

> that

>>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch. Corn in any form is out. Ditto

wheat,

>>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers, cookies etc. I know, it is a

giant

> pain.

>>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last two weeks there has been lots of

stress

>>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and nothing that will not pass,

but

> stress

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone and have no one to help out on

a

> daily

>>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and work from home. Most days, I get

by OK.

>>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get ahead of me. As a result, this

week I

>>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about every other day. I mean, how

stupid is

>>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have increased pain and my digestive system

is

> not up

> to

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing serious, but enough to remind me

what a

> dumb

>>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to concentrate on what works for me.

No

>>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box. Plenty of protein (fish,

turkey,

> buffalo

> are

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef for me) and lots of fresh

vegetables.

> A

>>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a couple of times a week. I love

the

>>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner two or three times a week.

>>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen oodle.com) ) A little fruit, since

I don't

>>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some cottage cheese. I have a great

source

> for

>>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some organic raw eggs almost every

> morning.

>>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left over dinner from yesterday or

> cottage

>>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good serving of protein, noodles or

brown

>>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe greens and broccoli or beets

or

>>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always been good about drinking

plenty of

>>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last Saturday and over 100' every day

until

>>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I keep away from acid foods like

>>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may exacerbate the FMS pain. I have

planted

>>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and will eat them moderately as

long as

>>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no negative results. Basically, eat

a good

>>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your own, even if it is in a half

barrel on

> your

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very good, as is spinach. Saute with

some

> butter,

>>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy asparagus when it is in season

and

> freeze

>>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for farmers markets. The produce is

local and

>>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful chemicals. Try something different each

week.

> Season

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the next day so if you are tired,

meals

> are

>>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and chop and bag up and freeze. Try

> carrots,

>>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and onions for a good start for

winter

> soups

> and

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in small zip lock bags for use in

winter

> soups

> and

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't use too much, but still have

the

> color and

> a

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell peppers and onions and freeze for

stir

> fry.

>>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or slow cooker. Or even now for

pot

> roast

> or

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't have to heat up your house. While

the

> heat

>>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of me, I have more OA pain in the

winter

>>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this time of the year, early in the

AM

>>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better when I can reach into the

freezer and

> grab

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather than grab the frozen bread

(which

> should

>>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and try for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to everyone, eliminate wheat,

corn and

>>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the artificial chemical sweeteners

which

>>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat local. Avoid processed foods.

Keep a

>>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will show you what works and what

does not,

>>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and negative symptoms may show up a

day or

> two

>>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be thankful. There are many

people who

> have

> a

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one is bad enough, but I am thankful

for

>>>> >> > every day and

>>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep searching I will find answers that

will

> make me

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Pam in ID

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

yours

> in

>>>> >> > just 2

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> easy

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > steps!

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122258

> 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/ default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>> >> > hmpgID=115 & bcd

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> 5106x1201462830/

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> aol?redir= http:

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > //www.freecreditrep ort.com/pm/ default.aspx? sc=668072 &

>>>>>> >>>>> amp;hmpgID=

>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> 115 & bcd>

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > =JulystepsfooterNO1 15)

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

July 29, 2009

rosemarie could you resend the stuff about carbs.

i thought i saved it but i erased it.

thanks

Joy

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:51:55 PM

Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

GOOD FOR YOU PAM. WET HEAT HELPS ME TOO. WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER.

On 7/28/09 6:05 PM, " Sharpcatsaol (DOT) com " <Sharpcatsaol (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> In a message dated 7/27/2009 9:54:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> rosemarieintnet (DOT) net <mailto:rosemarie% 40intnet. net> writes:

>

> Here¹s to good nutrition and being proactive with our health.

>

> Thanks. In my opinion it is the best and first thing we ought to do.

> Other than OTC drugs when things get difficult, I am, so far, able to avoid

> drugs. I just can't get past the side effects of the prescription drugs. I

> switch off on the pain drugs so hopefully I stress the tummy one day the

> liver the next and the kidneys later on. Wet heat helps most days. On

> occasion, I use ice packs for just a few minutes if something is very

> inflamed.

> But NEVER in the winter time as my body will simply turn into one large

> spasm. Some days are better than others. But I am here and still hopeful

> that tomorrow will be even better than today.

>

> Pam in ID

> ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy

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> =JulystepsfooterNO1 15)

>

July 29, 2009

That is so true. It's taken me many years to admit this to myself.

Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:11 PM

BINGO! I am just learning how our minds greatly affect our bodies. Many

traumatic experiences are stored in our bodies and some we don't even remember

as of yet. Repressed memories? Oh yes...they do exist!

Tammy

In a message dated 7/29/2009 10:28:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

rosemarieintnet (DOT) net writes:

Yes, I agree. Any abuse at any age is trauma. Then that trauma response

kicks in. dissocation. Hyperarousal of the nervous system followed by pain

and depression or PTSD. Thanks for that.

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July 29, 2009

Did you know that for me and all my FM friends here carbs CAUSE our brain

fog? At least to a large degree. If I eat sweets or bread I¹ll go in to a

funk. If I eat egg whites with salad I stay alive and alert. something

to think about.

>

> I ll save it for reference. Yes!

>

> Re: Food avoids and general thoughts -

>>>> long

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE OUR

>>>> GOOD

>>>> >> > NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH. THANK YOU.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo " <buckeye@...

>>>> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

>>> >> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

>>>> >> > <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net> > wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I have to agree. I went low carb in April and have lost 30

>>>>>>>> lbs, feel

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I also stay away from

>>>>>>>> all acidic

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw onions.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > -jo

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB EATING PRETTY MUCH WILL

KEEP YOU OFF

> GLUTEN

>>>> >> > AND

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO WHAT¹S RECOMMENDED FOR

TYPE 11

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DIABETICS AND

>>>> >> > IT

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY MEDICATIONS FOR DIABETES. I ALSO

LOST ALL THE

> WEIGHT

>>>> >> > DOING

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I WENT FROM 215 POUNDS

DOWN 135 WHICH

> I

>>>> >> > MAINTAIN

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT. PLUS I DON¹T GET ALL THE

FM SYMPTOMS I

> HAD WHEN

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I WAS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THANKS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM, " Joanne Ford "

>>>>>>>>>>>> <joannesford@... <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > To make things simple i follow a

ketogenic diet.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rather than list

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > the foods i

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will list them i do. ALL

meat fish

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> cheese eggs seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > nuts seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb veg and fruit and low

carb/calorie

> jelly. In

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> addition

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > i take a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multitude of vitamins that include

codliver oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> evening primrose

>>>> >> > oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and pro-biotics, This

sounds difficult

> but it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > incredibly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT WORKS. If you want to

try it for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself simply

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > get a book

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes low carb eating i.e. the

Dr Atkins

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Book. In there

>> > it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > will telll

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > you how and why low carb eating helps a

multitude of

> illnesses.

>> > For

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > me eating

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > a very very low carb diet has lifted

80% of my

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> symptoms and i now

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > lead a very

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > functional life. It is hard to believe

but diets

> that are low

>> > fat,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > high carb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this illness no end. All i ask

is that you

> give it one

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > month on a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > very strict low carb diet and see if it

works for

> you

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated 7/25/2009

8:22:18 AM

> Mountain

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@ yahoo.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a SIMPLE

list that

> tells me the

>> > commonly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN

eat?

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for

everyone. It is a

> matter of

>> > paying

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what works.

You know it is

> not all that

>> > hard.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back

problems for many

> years.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I must

sleep on my

> back. I have

>> > heard

>>>> >> > many

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do

that. " My stock

> answer

>> > (cranky, I

>>>> >> > know)

>>>> >> > is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly

enough yet. "

> Food choices are

>> > the

>>>> >> > same

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely

admit that on

> some days it is

>> > just

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with it and

eat what I

> choose. I

>> > probably

>>>> >> > pay

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know, the FMS

pain may

> come a day or

>> > three

>>>> >> > after

>>>> >> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is

sometimes hard to

> tell what causes

>> > what.

>>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am a

type O and try

> to eat for my

>> > type.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for me,

along with

> white potatoes.

>> > And

>>>> >> > that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch. Corn in

any form is

> out. Ditto

>> > wheat,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers,

cookies etc. I

> know, it is a

>> > giant

>>>> >> > pain.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last two

weeks there has

> been lots of

>> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and

nothing that will

> not pass,

>> > but

>>>> >> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone and

have no one

> to help out on

>> > a

>>>> >> > daily

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and work

from home.

> Most days, I get

>> > by OK.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get ahead

of me. As a

> result, this

>> > week I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about every

other day. I

> mean, how

>> > stupid is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have increased

pain and my

> digestive system

>> > is

>>>> >> > not up

>>>> >> > to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing serious,

but enough to

> remind me

>> > what a

>>>> >> > dumb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to

concentrate on what

> works for me.

>> > No

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box.

Plenty of protein

> (fish,

>> > turkey,

>>>> >> > buffalo

>>>> >> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef for

me) and lots

> of fresh

>> > vegetables.

>>>> >> > A

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a couple

of times a

> week. I love

>> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner two or

three times a

> week.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen

oodle.com) ) A little

> fruit, since

>> > I don't

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some cottage

cheese. I

> have a great

>> > source

>>>> >> > for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some

organic raw eggs

> almost every

>>>> >> > morning.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left

over dinner from

> yesterday or

>>>> >> > cottage

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good

serving of protein,

> noodles or

>> > brown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe

greens and

> broccoli or beets

>> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always

been good about

> drinking

>> > plenty of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last Saturday

and over 100'

> every day

>> > until

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I keep

away from

> acid foods like

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may

exacerbate the FMS

> pain. I have

>> > planted

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and

will eat them

> moderately as

>> > long as

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no

negative results.

> Basically, eat

>> > a good

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your own,

even if it is

> in a half

>> > barrel on

>>>> >> > your

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very good, as

is spinach.

> Saute with

>> > some

>>>> >> > butter,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy

asparagus when it is

> in season

>> > and

>>>> >> > freeze

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for farmers

markets. The

> produce is

>> > local and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful chemicals. Try

something

> different each

>> > week.

>>>> >> > Season

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the next

day so if

> you are tired,

>> > meals

>>>> >> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and chop

and bag up and

> freeze. Try

>>>> >> > carrots,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and

onions for a good

> start for

>> > winter

>>>> >> > soups

>>>> >> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in small zip

lock bags

> for use in

>> > winter

>>>> >> > soups

>>>> >> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't use

too much, but

> still have

>> > the

>>>> >> > color and

>>>> >> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell peppers

and onions

> and freeze for

>> > stir

>>>> >> > fry.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or

slow cooker. Or

> even now for

>> > pot

>>>> >> > roast

>>>> >> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't have to

heat up your

> house. While

>> > the

>>>> >> > heat

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of me, I

have more OA

> pain in the

>> > winter

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this time

of the year,

> early in the

>> > AM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better when

I can reach

> into the

>> > freezer and

>>>> >> > grab

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather than

grab the

> frozen bread

>> > (which

>>>> >> > should

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and try

for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to

everyone,

> eliminate wheat,

>> > corn and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the

artificial

> chemical sweeteners

>> > which

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat

local. Avoid

> processed foods.

>> > Keep a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will show

you what works

> and what

>> > does not,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and

negative symptoms

> may show up a

>> > day or

>>>> >> > two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be

thankful. There

> are many

>> > people who

>>>> >> > have

>>>> >> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one is bad

enough, but

> I am thankful

>> > for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep searching

I will find

> answers that

>> > will

>>>> >> > make me

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

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>> > yours

>>>> >> > in

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July 29, 2009

Hi : I was told the same thing. Especially with hypoglycemia. When I

eat carbs I can get drunk symptoms as well. I also get the hangover. That

made it very very easy for me to stay off carbs/sugar/wheat.

>

> Dear ,

> Okay, here goes on what the doctor told me about sweets and wheat especially

> those with candida problems.

> First of all you know candida is an over growth of yeast in your body

> intestines. Sometimes you even feel that there is a rock or something inside

> the stomach area. This is extreme yeast overgrowth.

> As it was explained to me, when you eat wheat it turns into sugar. When you

> eat sweets you already have the sugar. The sugar in your intestines with the

> candida(yeast) turns into alcohol- like symptoms. That is why sometimes you

> feel a woozy, brain foggy, confusion, short attention span(not ADD), and,

> oops, I'm not balancing right kinda feeling. Your body is kinda acting in a

> drunken state.

> Now, friends, this is what the doctor explained to me. Remember I mentioned a

> while back I 'scored' second to the highest of candida in my state(Boy, what a

> record to be remembered by).

> This is why many should get off the wheats almost immediately to fend off alot

> of these symptoms. This is what candida and its symptoms is all about.

> But, again, this was my case. Hope many of you can understand this

> beast(candida, not me) a little better.

> M

>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:22:18 AM

Mountain

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@ yahoo.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a SIMPLE list that

tells me the

> commonly

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN eat?

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for everyone. It is a

matter of

> paying

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what works. You know it is

not all that

> hard.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back problems for many

years.

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I must sleep on my

back. I have

> heard

>> > many

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do that. " My stock

answer

> (cranky, I

>> > know)

>> > is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly enough yet. "

Food choices are

> the

>> > same

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely admit that on

some days it is

> just

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with it and eat what I

choose. I

> probably

>> > pay

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know, the FMS pain may

come a day or

> three

>> > after

>> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is sometimes hard to

tell what causes

> what.

>> > I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am a type O and try

to eat for my

> type.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for me, along with

white potatoes.

> And

>> > that

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch. Corn in any form is

out. Ditto

> wheat,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers, cookies etc. I

know, it is a

> giant

>> > pain.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last two weeks there has

been lots of

> stress

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and nothing that will

not pass,

> but

>> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone and have no one

to help out on

> a

>> > daily

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and work from home.

Most days, I get

> by OK.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get ahead of me. As a

result, this

> week I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about every other day. I

mean, how

> stupid is

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have increased pain and my

digestive system

> is

>> > not up

>> > to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing serious, but enough to

remind me

> what a

>> > dumb

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to concentrate on what

works for me.

> No

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box. Plenty of protein

(fish,

> turkey,

>> > buffalo

>> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef for me) and lots

of fresh

> vegetables.

>> > A

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a couple of times a

week. I love

> the

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner two or three times a

week.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen oodle.com) ) A little

fruit, since

> I don't

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some cottage cheese. I

have a great

> source

>> > for

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some organic raw eggs

almost every

>> > morning.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left over dinner from

yesterday or

>> > cottage

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good serving of protein,

noodles or

> brown

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe greens and

broccoli or beets

> or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always been good about

drinking

> plenty of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last Saturday and over 100'

every day

> until

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I keep away from

acid foods like

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may exacerbate the FMS

pain. I have

> planted

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and will eat them

moderately as

> long as

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no negative results.

Basically, eat

> a good

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your own, even if it is

in a half

> barrel on

>> > your

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very good, as is spinach.

Saute with

> some

>> > butter,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy asparagus when it is

in season

> and

>> > freeze

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for farmers markets. The

produce is

> local and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful chemicals. Try something

different each

> week.

>> > Season

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the next day so if

you are tired,

> meals

>> > are

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and chop and bag up and

freeze. Try

>> > carrots,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and onions for a good

start for

> winter

>> > soups

>> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in small zip lock bags

for use in

> winter

>> > soups

>> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't use too much, but

still have

> the

>> > color and

>> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell peppers and onions

and freeze for

> stir

>> > fry.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or slow cooker. Or

even now for

> pot

>> > roast

>> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't have to heat up your

house. While

> the

>> > heat

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of me, I have more OA

pain in the

> winter

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this time of the year,

early in the

> AM

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better when I can reach

into the

> freezer and

>> > grab

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather than grab the

frozen bread

> (which

>> > should

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and try for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to everyone,

eliminate wheat,

> corn and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the artificial

chemical sweeteners

> which

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat local. Avoid

processed foods.

> Keep a

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will show you what works

and what

> does not,

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and negative symptoms

may show up a

> day or

>> > two

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be thankful. There

are many

> people who

>> > have

>> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one is bad enough, but

I am thankful

> for

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day and

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep searching I will find

answers that

> will

>> > make me

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Pam in ID

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700

or Above. See

> yours

>> > in

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>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

July 29, 2009

HI Joanne

I know what you are talking about because I have tried the tapping and a

friend of mine is healing severe childhood abuse using that method. Its

good stuff and not expensive and can be done at home if you choose to.

>

> I am so glad that the people here at least are recognising that this illness

> is caused by trauma and further more recognise the process of hyper alertness,

> hypoglycemia and then fibromyalgia

>

> the outside world knows nothing about this and this is why so many of us have

> to go through 20 years of hell

>

> Anyway, now that i am using Tapping, ypnotherapy and a low carb diet, i am

> really getting this illness under control and i am so happy.

>

> If anybody want to know anything more about what i am talking about please

> just ask

>

> Thanks

>

> Joanne

>

> From: tammyco5@... <mailto:tammyco5%40aol.com> <tammyco5@...

> <mailto:tammyco5%40aol.com> >

> Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 5:11 PM

>

> BINGO! I am just learning how our minds greatly affect our bodies. Many

> traumatic experiences are stored in our bodies and some we don't even remember

> as of yet. Repressed memories? Oh yes...they do exist!

>

> Tammy

>

> In a message dated 7/29/2009 10:28:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> rosemarieintnet (DOT) net writes:

>

> Yes, I agree. Any abuse at any age is trauma. Then that trauma response

> kicks in. dissocation. Hyperarousal of the nervous system followed by pain

> and depression or PTSD. Thanks for that.

>

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July 29, 2009

Yes, I hope this is the one you mean. If not let me know and I¹ll look for

another one.

(From this morning at 11 am approx.)

I totally understand about the brain fog. I have it too somedays.

Well do you know where to start to get off the carbs?

If not, replace some of your carbs in each meal with meat/eggs. For example

instead of spaghetti have an extra piece of chicken. Instead of a chocolate

bar have a slice of meat or a boiled egg. Instead of coke, have water or

herbal tea.

Does that help?

>

> rosemarie could you resend the stuff about carbs.

> i thought i saved it but i erased it.

> thanks

>

> Joy

>

> ________________________________

> From: Rosemarie Tropf <rosemarie@... <mailto:rosemarie%40intnet.net> >

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:51:55 PM

> Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

>

> GOOD FOR YOU PAM. WET HEAT HELPS ME TOO. WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER.

>

> On 7/28/09 6:05 PM, " Sharpcatsaol (DOT) com " <Sharpcatsaol (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>> >

>> > In a message dated 7/27/2009 9:54:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

>> > rosemarieintnet (DOT) net <mailto:rosemarie% 40intnet. net> writes:

>> >

>> > Here¹s to good nutrition and being proactive with our health.

>> >

>> > Thanks. In my opinion it is the best and first thing we ought to do.

>> > Other than OTC drugs when things get difficult, I am, so far, able to

>> avoid

>> > drugs. I just can't get past the side effects of the prescription drugs.

I

>> > switch off on the pain drugs so hopefully I stress the tummy one day the

>> > liver the next and the kidneys later on. Wet heat helps most days. On

>> > occasion, I use ice packs for just a few minutes if something is very

>> > inflamed.

>> > But NEVER in the winter time as my body will simply turn into one large

>> > spasm. Some days are better than others. But I am here and still hopeful

>> > that tomorrow will be even better than today.

>> >

>> > Pam in ID

>> > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2

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>> >

July 29, 2009

>

> Hi

>

> I live in the UK. Here if you say that you are on a low carb diet then the

doctor simply will not deal with you. They claim it is your diet that is making

you ill etc.

>

> I see loads on the TV about people in America following low carb diets and in

turn getting their blood pressure, diabetes, cholestol etc under control.. But

here in th UK if you suggest such a thing people act as if you are insane.

Literally. Not barmy, but potentially dangerous

>

> I do not exagerate when i tell you this. It has taken a lot of guts for me to

stick to this diet. But i can tell you this. Since giving up carbs and eating

less than 30g of the stuff a day (very carefully chosen carbs) i feel 80% better

and i am improving all the time

>

> I feel for the people who are not recieving this information, but i have

learned over time that the powers that be have far more influence than me so i

just share it with them that can be bothered to listen

>

> Thank you for your share

>

> joanne

Hi Joanne,

Thank you for sharing. I had heard about low carb diets, like adkins, but I

think what helped me was more good fats. I have not been to the doctor since

starting the diet, or needed to. I average 50 grams of protein, 130 grams of

fat, and 35 grams of carbs a day.

There is more money to be made by companies selling sugar, and processed foods,

so alternatives will not be popular. Like the previous posts, you will need to

start gradually.

C.

July 29, 2009

now when I eat sweets, I feel alive. just protein, i'm tired and depressed.

ine

Original Message:

-----------------

From: Rosemarie Tropf rosemarie@...

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:57:58 -0400

To: fibromyalgiacured

Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

Did you know that for me and all my FM friends here carbs CAUSE our brain

fog? At least to a large degree. If I eat sweets or bread I¹ll go in to a

funk. If I eat egg whites with salad I stay alive and alert. something

to think about.

>

> I ll save it for reference. Yes!

>

> Re: Food avoids and general thoughts

-

>>>> long

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE

OUR

>>>> GOOD

>>>> >> > NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH. THANK YOU.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo " <buckeye@...

>>>> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

>>> >> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

>>>> >> > <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net> > wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I have to agree. I went low carb in April and have lost

30

>>>>>>>> lbs, feel

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I also stay away

from

>>>>>>>> all acidic

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw onions.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > -jo

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB EATING PRETTY MUCH

WILL

KEEP YOU OFF

> GLUTEN

>>>> >> > AND

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO WHAT¹S RECOMMENDED

FOR

TYPE 11

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DIABETICS AND

>>>> >> > IT

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY MEDICATIONS FOR DIABETES. I

ALSO

LOST ALL THE

> WEIGHT

>>>> >> > DOING

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I WENT FROM 215

POUNDS

DOWN 135 WHICH

> I

>>>> >> > MAINTAIN

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT. PLUS I DON¹T GET ALL

THE

FM SYMPTOMS I

> HAD WHEN

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I WAS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THANKS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM, " Joanne Ford "

>>>>>>>>>>>> <joannesford@... <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > To make things simple i follow a

ketogenic diet.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rather than list

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > the foods i

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will list them i do.

ALL

meat fish

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> cheese eggs seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > nuts seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb veg and fruit and

low

carb/calorie

> jelly. In

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> addition

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > i take a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multitude of vitamins that include

codliver oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> evening primrose

>>>> >> > oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and pro-biotics, This

sounds difficult

> but it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > incredibly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT WORKS. If you

want to

try it for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself simply

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > get a book

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes low carb eating

i.e. the

Dr Atkins

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Book. In there

>> > it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > will telll

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > you how and why low carb eating

helps a

multitude of

> illnesses.

>> > For

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > me eating

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > a very very low carb diet has

lifted

80% of my

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> symptoms and i now

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > lead a very

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > functional life. It is hard to

believe

but diets

> that are low

>> > fat,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > high carb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this illness no end. All

i ask

is that you

> give it one

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > month on a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > very strict low carb diet and see

if it

works for

> you

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated

7/25/2009

8:22:18 AM

> Mountain

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@

yahoo.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a

SIMPLE

list that

> tells me the

>> > commonly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN

eat?

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for

everyone. It is a

> matter of

>> > paying

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what

works.

You know it is

> not all that

>> > hard.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back

problems for many

> years.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I

must

sleep on my

> back. I have

>> > heard

>>>> >> > many

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do

that. " My stock

> answer

>> > (cranky, I

>>>> >> > know)

>>>> >> > is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly

enough yet. "

> Food choices are

>> > the

>>>> >> > same

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely

admit that on

> some days it is

>> > just

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with

it and

eat what I

> choose. I

>> > probably

>>>> >> > pay

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know,

the FMS

pain may

> come a day or

>> > three

>>>> >> > after

>>>> >> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is

sometimes hard to

> tell what causes

>> > what.

>>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am

a

type O and try

> to eat for my

>> > type.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for

me,

along with

> white potatoes.

>> > And

>>>> >> > that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch.

Corn in

any form is

> out. Ditto

>> > wheat,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers,

cookies etc. I

> know, it is a

>> > giant

>>>> >> > pain.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last

two

weeks there has

> been lots of

>> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and

nothing that will

> not pass,

>> > but

>>>> >> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone

and

have no one

> to help out on

>> > a

>>>> >> > daily

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and

work

from home.

> Most days, I get

>> > by OK.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get

ahead

of me. As a

> result, this

>> > week I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about

every

other day. I

> mean, how

>> > stupid is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have

increased

pain and my

> digestive system

>> > is

>>>> >> > not up

>>>> >> > to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing

serious,

but enough to

> remind me

>> > what a

>>>> >> > dumb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to

concentrate on what

> works for me.

>> > No

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box.

Plenty of protein

> (fish,

>> > turkey,

>>>> >> > buffalo

>>>> >> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef

for

me) and lots

> of fresh

>> > vegetables.

>>>> >> > A

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a

couple

of times a

> week. I love

>> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner

two or

three times a

> week.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen

oodle.com) ) A little

> fruit, since

>> > I don't

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some

cottage

cheese. I

> have a great

>> > source

>>>> >> > for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some

organic raw eggs

> almost every

>>>> >> > morning.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left

over dinner from

> yesterday or

>>>> >> > cottage

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good

serving of protein,

> noodles or

>> > brown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe

greens and

> broccoli or beets

>> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always

been good about

> drinking

>> > plenty of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last

Saturday

and over 100'

> every day

>> > until

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I

keep

away from

> acid foods like

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may

exacerbate the FMS

> pain. I have

>> > planted

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and

will eat them

> moderately as

>> > long as

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no

negative results.

> Basically, eat

>> > a good

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your

own,

even if it is

> in a half

>> > barrel on

>>>> >> > your

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very

good, as

is spinach.

> Saute with

>> > some

>>>> >> > butter,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy

asparagus when it is

> in season

>> > and

>>>> >> > freeze

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for

farmers

markets. The

> produce is

>> > local and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful

chemicals. Try

something

> different each

>> > week.

>>>> >> > Season

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the

> you are tired,

>> > meals

>>>> >> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and

chop

and bag up and

> freeze. Try

>>>> >> > carrots,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and

onions for a good

> start for

>> > winter

>>>> >> > soups

>>>> >> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in

small zip

lock bags

> for use in

>> > winter

>>>> >> > soups

>>>> >> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't

use

too much, but

> still have

>> > the

>>>> >> > color and

>>>> >> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell

peppers

and onions

> and freeze for

>> > stir

>>>> >> > fry.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or

slow cooker. Or

> even now for

>> > pot

>>>> >> > roast

>>>> >> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't

have to

heat up your

> house. While

>> > the

>>>> >> > heat

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of

me, I

have more OA

> pain in the

>> > winter

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this

time

of the year,

> early in the

>> > AM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better

when

I can reach

> into the

>> > freezer and

>>>> >> > grab

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather

than

grab the

> frozen bread

>> > (which

>>>> >> > should

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and

try

for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to

everyone,

> eliminate wheat,

>> > corn and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the

artificial

> chemical sweeteners

>> > which

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat

local. Avoid

> processed foods.

>> > Keep a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will

show

you what works

> and what

>> > does not,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and

negative symptoms

> may show up a

>> > day or

>>>> >> > two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be

thankful. There

> are many

>> > people who

>>>> >> > have

>>>> >> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one

is bad

enough, but

> I am thankful

>> > for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep

searching

I will find

> answers that

>> > will

>>>> >> > make me

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically better.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

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July 29, 2009

Funny, I caught you just when I started to feel better from a 'carsh'.

We do need a little bit of carbs.

Â I just ate a carb 'thingie' and I feel better from a major tired feeling.

It's just that we cannot over indulge on carbs.

There are quite a few especially women who cannot handle carbs.

You can'tÂ eat on bread alone.

You can'tÂ eat on meat alone .

You can't eat on sugar alone...

eat withÂ company

but balance, balance, balance until you get it right.

This is for all of us.

Â

n Wed, 7/29/09, pshreiman@... wrote:

Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 3:17 PM

Â

now when I eat sweets, I feel alive. just protein, i'm tired and depressed.

ine

Original Message:

------------ -----

From: Rosemarie Tropf rosemarieintnet (DOT) net

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:57:58 -0400

To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

Did you know that for me and all my FM friends here carbs CAUSE our brain

fog? At least to a large degree. If I eat sweets or bread IÂ¹ll go in to a

funk. If I eat egg whites with salad I stay alive and alert. something

to think about.

On 7/29/09 12:03 PM, " Schultz " <youthfulfirecracker @yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> I ll save it for reference. Yes!

>

> Re: Food avoids and general thoughts

-

>>>> long

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE

OUR

>>>> GOOD

>>>> >> > NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH. THANK YOU.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo " <buckeyemyaxiom (DOT) net

>>>> <mailto:buckeye% 40myaxiom. net>

>>> >> <mailto:buckeye% 40myaxiom. net>

>>>> >> > <mailto:buckeye% 40myaxiom. net> > wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I have to agree. I went low carb in April and have lost

30

>>>>>>>> lbs, feel

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I also stay away

from

>>>>>>>> all acidic

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw onions.

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > -jo

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB EATING PRETTY MUCH

WILL

KEEP YOU OFF

> GLUTEN

>>>> >> > AND

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO WHATÂ¹S RECOMMENDED

FOR

TYPE 11

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DIABETICS AND

>>>> >> > IT

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY MEDICATIONS FOR DIABETES. I

ALSO

LOST ALL THE

> WEIGHT

>>>> >> > DOING

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I WENT FROM 215

POUNDS

DOWN 135 WHICH

> I

>>>> >> > MAINTAIN

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT. PLUS I DONÂ¹T GET ALL

THE

FM SYMPTOMS I

> HAD WHEN

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I WAS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THANKS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM, " Joanne Ford "

>>>>>>>>>>>> <joannesford@ yahoo.co. uk <mailto:joannesford %40yahoo. co.uk>

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:joannesford %40yahoo. co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> <mailto:joannesford %40yahoo. co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> <mailto:joannesford %40yahoo. co.uk>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:joannesford %40yahoo. co.uk>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > To make things simple i follow a

ketogenic diet.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rather than list

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > the foods i

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will list them i do.

ALL

meat fish

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> cheese eggs seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > nuts seeds

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb veg and fruit and

low

carb/calorie

> jelly. In

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> addition

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > i take a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multitude of vitamins that include

codliver oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> evening primrose

>>>> >> > oil,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and pro-biotics, This

sounds difficult

> but it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > incredibly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT WORKS. If you

want to

try it for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself simply

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > get a book

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes low carb eating

i.e. the

Dr Atkins

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Book. In there

>> > it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > will telll

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > you how and why low carb eating

helps a

multitude of

> illnesses.

>> > For

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > me eating

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > a very very low carb diet has

lifted

80% of my

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> symptoms and i now

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > lead a very

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > functional life. It is hard to

believe

but diets

> that are low

>> > fat,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > high carb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this illness no end. All

i ask

is that you

> give it one

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > month on a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > very strict low carb diet and see

if it

works for

> you

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a message dated

7/25/2009

8:22:18 AM

> Mountain

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > barbara_debelius@

yahoo.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know of a

SIMPLE

list that

> tells me the

>> > commonly

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > known foods

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to eat and foods I CAN

eat?

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is not the same for

everyone. It is a

> matter of

>> > paying

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > attention to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you feel and what

works.

You know it is

> not all that

>> > hard.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Along with

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS & OA I have had back

problems for many

> years.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably more

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > arthritis,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the point is that I

must

sleep on my

> back. I have

>> > heard

>>>> >> > many

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say, " oh, I could never do

that. " My stock

> answer

>> > (cranky, I

>>>> >> > know)

>>>> >> > is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess you don't hurt badly

enough yet. "

> Food choices are

>> > the

>>>> >> > same

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > thing,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO. Saying that, I freely

admit that on

> some days it is

>> > just

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sucky enough

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I say to hell with

it and

eat what I

> choose. I

>> > probably

>>>> >> > pay

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > down the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road. As you all know,

the FMS

pain may

> come a day or

>> > three

>>>> >> > after

>>>> >> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact anyway, so it is

sometimes hard to

> tell what causes

>> > what.

>>>> >> > I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > see that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of us have IBS. I am

a

type O and try

> to eat for my

>> > type.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Wheat and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn are a HUGE avoid for

me,

along with

> white potatoes.

>> > And

>>>> >> > that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > means

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn oil, corn starch.

Corn in

any form is

> out. Ditto

>> > wheat,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > including

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread, pasta, crackers,

cookies etc. I

> know, it is a

>> > giant

>>>> >> > pain.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > However,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is FMS. For the last

two

weeks there has

> been lots of

>> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in my life.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing that is fatal and

nothing that will

> not pass,

>> > but

>>>> >> > stress

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > nonetheless. I live alone

and

have no one

> to help out on

>> > a

>>>> >> > daily

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > basis. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the animals and

work

from home.

> Most days, I get

>> > by OK.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sometimes

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > everything seems to get

ahead

of me. As a

> result, this

>> > week I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have had

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat in some form about

every

other day. I

> mean, how

>> > stupid is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that? I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no energy. I have

increased

pain and my

> digestive system

>> > is

>>>> >> > not up

>>>> >> > to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again, nothing

serious,

but enough to

> remind me

>> > what a

>>>> >> > dumb

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > s**t I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been. So I am going to

concentrate on what

> works for me.

>> > No

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> processed

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods. Nothing in a box.

Plenty of protein

> (fish,

>> > turkey,

>>>> >> > buffalo

>>>> >> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited chicken and beef

for

me) and lots

> of fresh

>> > vegetables.

>>>> >> > A

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > limited

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount of brown rice a

couple

of times a

> week. I love

>> > the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat them at dinner

two or

three times a

> week.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > (http://www.miraclen

oodle.com) ) A little

> fruit, since

>> > I don't

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > need the

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar, along with some

cottage

cheese. I

> have a great

>> > source

>>>> >> > for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > raw milk

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and have raw milk and some

organic raw eggs

> almost every

>>>> >> > morning.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lunch

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might be a big salad, left

over dinner from

> yesterday or

>>>> >> > cottage

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit. Dinner is a good

serving of protein,

> noodles or

>> > brown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rice, two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables normally, maybe

greens and

> broccoli or beets

>> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Fortunately, I have always

been good about

> drinking

>> > plenty of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > water. And

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was 107' here last

Saturday

and over 100'

> every day

>> > until

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thursday, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to keep hydrated. I

keep

away from

> acid foods like

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > strawberries and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus, since they may

exacerbate the FMS

> pain. I have

>> > planted

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > low acid

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > tomatoes in the garden and

will eat them

> moderately as

>> > long as

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > they keep

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > producing and I see no

negative results.

> Basically, eat

>> > a good

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > variety of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try growing some of your

own,

even if it is

> in a half

>> > barrel on

>>>> >> > your

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio. Chard is very

good, as

is spinach.

> Saute with

>> > some

>>>> >> > butter,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > salt,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and garlic. Buy

asparagus when it is

> in season

>> > and

>>>> >> > freeze

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is the season for

farmers

markets. The

> produce is

>> > local and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > often grown

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without harmful

chemicals. Try

something

> different each

>> > week.

>>>> >> > Season

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well. Make enough for the

> you are tired,

>> > meals

>>>> >> > are

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > easy. Buy

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some vegetables now and

chop

and bag up and

> freeze. Try

>>>> >> > carrots,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > celery,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any available greens and

onions for a good

> start for

>> > winter

>>>> >> > soups

>>>> >> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I freeze tomatoes in

small zip

lock bags

> for use in

>> > winter

>>>> >> > soups

>>>> >> > and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces. That way I don't

use

too much, but

> still have

>> > the

>>>> >> > color and

>>>> >> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor. Slice up bell

peppers

and onions

> and freeze for

>> > stir

>>>> >> > fry.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Come

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather think crock pot or

slow cooker. Or

> even now for

>> > pot

>>>> >> > roast

>>>> >> > or

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken and you don't

have to

heat up your

> house. While

>> > the

>>>> >> > heat

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just sucks

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the energy right out of

me, I

have more OA

> pain in the

>> > winter

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > time. So I >>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > try

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a little extra this

time

of the year,

> early in the

>> > AM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > before it gets

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I always feel better

when

I can reach

> into the

>> > freezer and

>>>> >> > grab

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > something healthy rather

than

grab the

> frozen bread

>> > (which

>>>> >> > should

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not be

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the first place) and

try

for a sandwich.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom line I would say to

everyone,

> eliminate wheat,

>> > corn and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all sugar.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia instead to the

artificial

> chemical sweeteners

>> > which

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are poison.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat well. Eat fresh. Eat

local. Avoid

> processed foods.

>> > Keep a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > food diary

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if necessary. This will

show

you what works

> and what

>> > does not,

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > keeping in

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that positive and

negative symptoms

> may show up a

>> > day or

>>>> >> > two

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > later.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep positive. Pray and be

thankful. There

> are many

>> > people who

>>>> >> > have

>>>> >> > a

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal disease. This one

is bad

enough, but

> I am thankful

>> > for

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day and

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>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know that if I keep

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I will find

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>>>> >> > make me

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July 29, 2009

That's right, I was abused as a child, developed DID (dissociative Identity

Disorder), lived for years in PTSD; developed hypoglycemia (hense the carb

craving- I have the body of an alcoholic), got treatment for the PTSD and DID

and am now just me.

We just don't have the option of giving up on ourselves. Resting when needed,

learning what our particular body need for food. Find out how to handle the pain

-if lucky- not become addicted to Rx drugs - got treated for that too and am now

clean and free again for over 13 years.

Life for anyone is not easy, there are challenges and then a plateau where we

consolidate what we've learned and then back to facing challenges again.

We discover not only that we are not our disease or conditions, but we learn how

to be the best person we can be under many situations.

My prayers and hopes are constant for all of us.

Jill in TX

>

> I would like to add that the sexual abuse didn't have to occur as a child.

Many FM patients have been abused as adults. Just thought I'd add that in case

others don't know.

>

July 29, 2009

Thanks for that information.

I am sitting on a sugar craving right now and am trying to think of what I could

have to handle it. I found out that some of my stomache distress was hunger - I

do get out of touch with my body because of trying to ignore the pain.

Jill in TX

--- In > > ine

> Hi,

>

> sorry about the previous post, as I hit the wrong key. I used to have

hypoglycemia, but I gradually quit the high carbs, and started eating meats, or

eggs, along with low carb vegetables, and good fats such as extra virgin coconut

oil, butter, and extra virgin olive oil. I no longer get hungry between meals,

also no longer have an over active bladder, and I hurt less. Someone else

posted, about Hypoglycemia, and fibromyalgia going hand in hand. If you help

one, you help the other.

>

> C.

>

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July 30, 2009

Throwing another curve into the fray here....I'm a gastric bypass patient(

12 years) , who is lactose intolerant and have Celiac.

Because of the bypass, I need high protein. Adkins sounds like a good idea

to me. I've found, being anemic, when my iron is low, is when I crave

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July 30, 2009

What I found out for me, is the Atkins works well for awhile - the low carbs

absolutely help, after awhile though I get depressed - I have the biochemistry

for depression, so what I think I can do is get tryptophan at an herbal store to

keep my seretonin levels up. I have tried meletonin but don't seem to get the

positive effect from it.

It works best for me if I eat enough protein for my body during the day and have

a small amount complex carb 3 hours after my last meal to let the tryptophan get

into the brain.

I have low seretonin, and low beta-endorphines - so I also have to find gentle

beta-endorphine raising activities like walking in nature, playing with my cats.

I also get a lift from doing games on the computer, going to church, reading

positive, uplifting books etc. All things that don't cost money either.

I think my last flare was due to high carb intake. I'd eat more sweets because I

was running low on energy - not getting enough sleep at night.

Apparently a life of moderation and the old adage of go to bed early and get up

early actually help. I so don't like my Mom and Dad being right!

Yesterday I actually had 3 decent meals at realistic times - got up around 7:30

yesterday and today. Hope I can keep it up!!

Jill in TX

>

> Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 9:30 PM

>

> Thanks for that information.

> I am sitting on a sugar craving right now and am trying to think of what I

could have to handle it. I found out that some of my stomache distress was

hunger - I do get out of touch with my body because of trying to ignore the

pain.

>

> Jill in TX

> --- In > > ine

> > Hi,

> >

> > sorry about the previous post, as I hit the wrong key. I used to have

hypoglycemia, but I gradually quit the high carbs, and started eating meats, or

eggs, along with low carb vegetables, and good fats such as extra virgin coconut

oil, butter, and extra virgin olive oil. I no longer get hungry between meals,

also no longer have an over active bladder, and I hurt less. Someone else

posted, about Hypoglycemia, and fibromyalgia going hand in hand. If you help

one, you help the other.

> >

> > C.

> >

>

July 30, 2009

How interesting that type O thrives on high protein.........as I am O

Neg as is my mother and we both require high prot. low carb diets to be

comfortable and healthy.

-jo

Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>

> Hmm ine how long have you ever been off carbs? Also, you can eat good

> carbs like brown rice or oatmeal. I had a friend who also needed carbs and

> when she ate low carb she was also exhausted and got so skinny she looked

> emaciated. So she added pasta (spinach pasta) and oatmeal to her diet. She

> also had a blood type of B. I¹m type O and according to body types blood

> type O¹s thrive on high protein diets. So you may not be able to do very

> low carb.

>

> However, your carbs should be healthy. Not sugar, white bread,white pasta.

> Then you will be healthy.

>

> Everybody¹s body is different so listen to yours. One size does NOT

> fit all

> on any food plan except for one thing. And that¹s sugar. I do not believe

> that anybody thrives on sugar. By sugar I mean doughnuts, candy, ice

> creams

> etc. once in a while if your body can handle it is ok, but mine cannot. So

> I don¹t. However, maybe you can. Try it and see what happens.

>

> When you go high protein do your FM symptoms change at all?

>

> rosemarie

>

> On 7/29/09 4:17 PM, " pshreiman@...

> <mailto:pshreiman%40comcast.net> " <pshreiman@...

> <mailto:pshreiman%40comcast.net>> wrote:

>

> >

> > now when I eat sweets, I feel alive. just protein, i'm tired and

> depressed.

> > ine

> >

> > Original Message:

> > -----------------

> > From: Rosemarie Tropf rosemarie@...

> <mailto:rosemarie%40intnet.net> <mailto:rosemarie%40intnet.net>

> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:57:58 -0400

> > To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> > <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: Food avoids and general thoughts - long

> >

> > Did you know that for me and all my FM friends here carbs CAUSE our

> brain

> > fog? At least to a large degree. If I eat sweets or bread I¹ll go in

> to a

> > funk. If I eat egg whites with salad I stay alive and alert.

> something

> > to think about.

> >

> > On 7/29/09 12:03 PM, " Schultz " <youthfulfirecracker@...

> <mailto:youthfulfirecracker%40yahoo.com>

> > <mailto:youthfulfirecracker%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> >

> >> >

> >> > I ll save it for reference. Yes!

> >> >

> >> > Re: Food avoids and

> general

> thoughts

> > -

> >>>>> >>>> long

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > WOW. GREAT JOB MARY JO. I THINK ITS SO IMPORTANT

> THAT WE

> SHARE

> > OUR

> >>>>> >>>> GOOD

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > NEWS WHEN ARE PROACTIVE IN ATTAINING GOOD HEALTH.

> THANK YOU.

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > On 7/27/09 9:19 PM, " Jo "

> <buckeye@... <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

> >>>>>>>> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

> >>>>> >>>> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

> >>>>>> >>> >> <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net>

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:buckeye%40myaxiom.net> > wrote:

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I have to agree. I went low carb in

> April and

> have lost

> > 30

> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lbs, feel

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > great, and my fibro is 100% better. I

> also stay

> away

> > from

> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> all acidic

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > foods incl. tomatoes, citrus and raw

> onions.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > -jo

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I AGREE JOANNE. LOW CARB

> EATING

> PRETTY MUCH

> > WILL

> > KEEP YOU OFF

> >> > GLUTEN

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > AND

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > WHEAT PRODUCTS. ITS ALSO

> WHAT¹S

> RECOMMENDED

> > FOR

> > TYPE 11

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DIABETICS AND

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > IT

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > GOT ME OFF ANY

> MEDICATIONS FOR

> DIABETES. I

> > ALSO

> > LOST ALL THE

> >> > WEIGHT

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > DOING

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THIS TYPE OF FOOD PLAN. I

> WENT FROM

> 215

> > POUNDS

> > DOWN 135 WHICH

> >> > I

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > MAINTAIN

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > NOW EATING LIKE THAT.

> PLUS I DON¹T

> GET ALL

> > THE

> > FM SYMPTOMS I

> >> > HAD WHEN

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I WAS

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > HEAVY AND DIABETIC TYPE 2.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > THANKS

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > On 7/27/09 12:02 PM,

> " Joanne Ford "

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <joannesford@...

> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk>>

> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > To make things

> simple i

> follow a

> > ketogenic diet.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rather than list

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > the foods i

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > do ot eat i will

> list them

> i do.

> > ALL

> > meat fish

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> cheese eggs seeds

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > nuts seeds

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > cream low carb

> veg and

> fruit and

> > low

> > carb/calorie

> >> > jelly. In

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> addition

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > i take a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multitude of

> vitamins that

> include

> > codliver oil,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> evening primrose

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > oil,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > multivitamins and

> pro-biotics, This

> > sounds difficult

> >> > but it is

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > incredibly

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > easy. BECAUSE IT

> WORKS. If

> you

> > want to

> > try it for

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself simply

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > get a book

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > that propmotes

> low carb

> eating

> > i.e. the

> > Dr Atkins

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Book. In there

> >>>> >> > it

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > will telll

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > you how and why

> low carb

> eating

> > helps a

> > multitude of

> >> > illnesses.

> >>>> >> > For

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > me eating

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > a very very low

> carb diet

> has

> > lifted

> > 80% of my

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> symptoms and i now

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > lead a very

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > functional life.

> It is

> hard to

> > believe

> > but diets

> >> > that are low

> >>>> >> > fat,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > high carb

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > agrevate this

> illness no

> end. All

> > i ask

> > is that you

> >> > give it one

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > month on a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > very strict low

> carb diet

> and see

> > if it

> > works for

> >> > you

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > > Joanne

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > In a

> message

> dated

> > 7/25/2009

> > 8:22:18 AM

> >> > Mountain

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Daylight Time,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> barbara_debelius@

> > yahoo.com

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:barbara_ debelius%

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > 40yahoo.com> writes:

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Does

> anybody know

> of a

> > SIMPLE

> > list that

> >> > tells me the

> >>>> >> > commonly

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > known foods

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > not to

> eat and

> foods I CAN

> > eat?

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > It is

> not the

> same for

> > everyone. It is a

> >> > matter of

> >>>> >> > paying

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > attention to

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > how you

> feel and

> what

> > works.

> > You know it is

> >> > not all that

> >>>> >> > hard.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Along with

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > FMS &

> OA I have

> had back

> > problems for many

> >> > years.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Probably more

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > arthritis,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > but the

> point is

> that I

> > must

> > sleep on my

> >> > back. I have

> >>>> >> > heard

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > many

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > say,

> " oh, I could

> never do

> > that. " My stock

> >> > answer

> >>>> >> > (cranky, I

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > know)

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > is

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> " well,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > guess

> you don't

> hurt badly

> > enough yet. "

> >> > Food choices are

> >>>> >> > the

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > same

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > thing,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > IMO.

> Saying that,

> I freely

> > admit that on

> >> > some days it is

> >>>> >> > just

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sucky enough

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > that I

> say to

> hell with

> > it and

> > eat what I

> >> > choose. I

> >>>> >> > probably

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > pay

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > down the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > road.

> As you all

> know,

> > the FMS

> > pain may

> >> > come a day or

> >>>> >> > three

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > after

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fact

> anyway, so

> it is

> > sometimes hard to

> >> > tell what causes

> >>>> >> > what.

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > see that

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > many of

> us have

> IBS. I am

> > a

> > type O and try

> >> > to eat for my

> >>>> >> > type.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Wheat and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn

> are a HUGE

> avoid for

> > me,

> > along with

> >> > white potatoes.

> >>>> >> > And

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > means

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > HFCS,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > corn

> oil, corn

> starch.

> > Corn in

> > any form is

> >> > out. Ditto

> >>>> >> > wheat,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > including

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > bread,

> pasta,

> crackers,

> > cookies etc. I

> >> > know, it is a

> >>>> >> > giant

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > pain.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > However,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > so is

> FMS. For

> the last

> > two

> > weeks there has

> >> > been lots of

> >>>> >> > stress

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in my life.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Nothing

> that is

> fatal and

> > nothing that will

> >> > not pass,

> >>>> >> > but

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > stress

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> nonetheless. I

> live alone

> > and

> > have no one

> >> > to help out on

> >>>> >> > a

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > daily

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > basis. I

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > take

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > care of the

> animals and

> > work

> > from home.

> >> > Most days, I get

> >>>> >> > by OK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Sometimes

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> everything seems

> to get

> > ahead

> > of me. As a

> >> > result, this

> >>>> >> > week I

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have had

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > wheat

> in some

> form about

> > every

> > other day. I

> >> > mean, how

> >>>> >> > stupid is

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > that? I

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > have

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > no

> energy. I have

> > increased

> > pain and my

> >> > digestive system

> >>>> >> > is

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not up

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > to

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > par. Again,

> nothing

> > serious,

> > but enough to

> >> > remind me

> >>>> >> > what a

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dumb

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > s**t I

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> have

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > been.

> So I am

> going to

> > concentrate on what

> >> > works for me.

> >>>> >> > No

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> processed

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

> Nothing in

> a box.

> > Plenty of protein

> >> > (fish,

> >>>> >> > turkey,

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > buffalo

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> great,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > limited

> chicken

> and beef

> > for

> > me) and lots

> >> > of fresh

> >>>> >> > vegetables.

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > A

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > limited

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > amount

> of brown

> rice a

> > couple

> > of times a

> >> > week. I love

> >>>> >> > the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Shirataki noodles

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and eat

> them at

> dinner

> > two or

> > three times a

> >> > week.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > (_www.miraclenoodle .com_

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> (http://www.miraclen

> > oodle.com) ) A little

> >> > fruit, since

> >>>> >> > I don't

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > need the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sugar,

> along with

> some

> > cottage

> > cheese. I

> >> > have a great

> >>>> >> > source

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > raw milk

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > and

> have raw milk

> and some

> > organic raw eggs

> >> > almost every

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > morning.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Lunch

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > might

> be a big

> salad, left

> > over dinner from

> >> > yesterday or

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cottage

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fruit.

> Dinner is

> a good

> > serving of protein,

> >> > noodles or

> >>>> >> > brown

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > rice, two

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > vegetables

> normally, maybe

> > greens and

> >> > broccoli or beets

> >>>> >> > or

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> asparagus.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> Fortunately, I

> have always

> > been good about

> >> > drinking

> >>>> >> > plenty of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > water. And

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > since it

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > was

> 107' here

> last

> > Saturday

> > and over 100'

> >> > every day

> >>>> >> > until

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Thursday, it is

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > easy to

> keep

> hydrated. I

> > keep

> > away from

> >> > acid foods like

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > strawberries and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > citrus,

> since

> they may

> > exacerbate the FMS

> >> > pain. I have

> >>>> >> > planted

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > low acid

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> tomatoes in the

> garden and

> > will eat them

> >> > moderately as

> >>>> >> > long as

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > they keep

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> producing and I

> see no

> > negative results.

> >> > Basically, eat

> >>>> >> > a good

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > variety of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > foods.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Try

> growing some

> of your

> > own,

> > even if it is

> >> > in a half

> >>>> >> > barrel on

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > your

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > patio.

> Chard is

> very

> > good, as

> > is spinach.

> >> > Saute with

> >>>> >> > some

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > butter,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > salt,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > pepper and

> garlic. Buy

> > asparagus when it is

> >> > in season

> >>>> >> > and

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > freeze

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > for later.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Now is

> the season

> for

> > farmers

> > markets. The

> >> > produce is

> >>>> >> > local and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > often grown

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > without

> harmful

> > chemicals. Try

> > something

> >> > different each

> >>>> >> > week.

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Season

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > well.

> Make enough

> for the

> > next

> > day so if

> >> > you are tired,

> >>>> >> > meals

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > easy. Buy

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > some

> vegetables

> now and

> > chop

> > and bag up and

> >> > freeze. Try

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > carrots,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > celery,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > any

> available

> greens and

> > onions for a good

> >> > start for

> >>>> >> > winter

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > soups

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> stews.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I

> freeze tomatoes

> in

> > small zip

> > lock bags

> >> > for use in

> >>>> >> > winter

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > soups

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > sauces.

> That way

> I don't

> > use

> > too much, but

> >> > still have

> >>>> >> > the

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > color and

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> little

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > flavor.

> Slice up

> bell

> > peppers

> > and onions

> >> > and freeze for

> >>>> >> > stir

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > fry.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Come

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > cooler

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > weather

> think

> crock pot or

> > slow cooker. Or

> >> > even now for

> >>>> >> > pot

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > roast

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > or

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > chicken

> and you

> don't

> > have to

> > heat up your

> >> > house. While

> >>>> >> > the

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > heat

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just sucks

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > the

> energy right

> out of

> > me, I

> > have more OA

> >> > pain in the

> >>>> >> > winter

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > time. So I >>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > try

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > to do a

> little

> extra this

> > time

> > of the year,

> >> > early in the

> >>>> >> > AM

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > before it gets

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > hot. I

> always

> feel better

> > when

> > I can reach

> >> > into the

> >>>> >> > freezer and

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > grab

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> something healthy

> rather

> > than

> > grab the

> >> > frozen bread

> >>>> >> > (which

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > should

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > not be

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > there

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > in the

> first

> place) and

> > try

> > for a sandwich.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Bottom

> line I

> would say to

> > everyone,

> >> > eliminate wheat,

> >>>> >> > corn and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all sugar.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Use Stevia

> instead to the

> > artificial

> >> > chemical sweeteners

> >>>> >> > which

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > are poison.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Eat

> well. Eat

> fresh. Eat

> > local. Avoid

> >> > processed foods.

> >>>> >> > Keep a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > food diary

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > if

> necessary.

> This will

> > show

> > you what works

> >> > and what

> >>>> >> > does not,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > keeping in

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > mind that

> positive and

> > negative symptoms

> >> > may show up a

> >>>> >> > day or

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > two

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > later.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Keep

> positive.

> Pray and be

> > thankful. There

> >> > are many

> >>>> >> > people who

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > fatal

> disease.

> This one

> > is bad

> > enough, but

> >> > I am thankful

> >>>> >> > for

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > every day and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > know

> that if I

> keep

> > searching

> > I will find

> >> > answers that

> >>>> >> > will

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > make me

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > physically

> better.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Pam in ID

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> ************ **A

> Good

> > Credit

> > Score is 700

> >> > or Above. See

> >>>> >> > yours

> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > in

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > just 2

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > >> easy

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > steps!

> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

> (http://pr.atwola.

> > com/promoclk/

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>

> I went through that too Joanne. I think part of the reason they get so

> uptight about it is that Atkins subscribes to so much cheese and bacon type

> of stuff that it could cause problems according to theories about heart

> disease. Atkins says not true. So that¹s the controversy.

I feel better eliminating all dairy, except butter. Regular bacon has sugar ,

and nitrates ( can that really be good?). I do eat good eggs ( the kind high in

omega 3, without antibiotics), and meats(not the ones with preservatives). I

just came across a vhs tape Atkins put out, but have not watched it yet.

C.

August 3, 2009

>

> >

>

> > I went through that too Joanne. I think part of the reason they get so

>

> > uptight about it is that Atkins subscribes to so much cheese and bacon type

>

> > of stuff that it could cause problems according to theories about heart

>

> > disease. Atkins says not true. So that¹s the controversy.

>

> I feel better eliminating all dairy, except butter. Regular bacon has sugar ,

and nitrates ( can that really be good?). I do eat good eggs ( the kind high in

omega 3, without antibiotics) , and meats(not the ones with preservatives) . I

just came across a vhs tape Atkins put out, but have not watched it yet.

>

> C.

>

August 20, 2009

If carrots don't have too much glucose for you, In one of the juicing books I

have a highly recommended green drink is carrots and spinach, it seems to be

" good for whatever ails you " . One that I like is carrot, celery, 1/4 apple and

parsley. The pulp from the juicing makes a decent addition to salads. Or if you

need to you can compost it for your plants. How silly of me, I forgot I can add

Stevia.

I have The Juiceman's Power of Juicing ( he says to drink more of it than I

think is reasonable). The books by and/or Bragg have good recipes

in them. I also have the juicing book for my Jack LaLanne juicer. I like this

juicer as it's so easy to clean.

I am so grateful. I was afraid to do my tithing, but buckled down this month and

paid it. After paying my bills, I was left with $20 to get through the until the

third week of next month.

I was able to get a $20.00 voucher for some canned vegetables and meats, liquid

eggs and some other things. I even got some frozen ground elk meat - I used to

eat venison when I was a child- so I suppose I will like it. I found a way to

use some of my powdered supplement so I can have a treat - I mixed it up and put

in the freezer so I have strawberry and chocolate flavored high protein frozen

thingy when I need it.

Some friends from church took me to a Chinese buffet for lunch today - I can eat

Gluten-free there - and then bought me lots of produce and some hamburger and a

couple of gluten-free mixes. They also told me of someone in my church who

raises chickens and has eggs to sell.

It gets scary for me when my food gets very low - I have in the past starved. I

think that if I keep doing the best I can to keep my covenants and promises to

Heavenly Father, He will see to it that I stay well and able to do my tasks

while I'm alive.

Jill in TX

>

> Well, one that has veggies in it and preferably some dark green leafy ones.

> Mine are chock full of nutrition and I make them different every time.

> There is a book called " Green For Life " that's good to get you interested if

> you desire. I have a Vita-Mix so I can get away with packing it to the rim.

> ;-)

>

> This is what I would put in one smoothie:

>

> kale

> celery

> carrots

> parsley

> baby spinach

> apple

> banana

> cinnamon

> water

> ice

> Stevia

>

> I just throw whatever I have on hand in and don't measure anything. People

> normally don't put this much in theirs so if you're beginning you might

> want to do some spinach, apple, banana, water, and ice. Raw veggies and

fruits

> are nutrition powerhouses and what God gave us to eat since the beginning

> of time. They're full of fiber, fill you up, and prevent disease. A great

> way to lose weight. If you have Diabetes or Candida you will want to just

> go light on the fruit.

>

> Tammy

>

> In a message dated 8/20/2009 10:13:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> youthfulfirecracker@... writes:

>

> Tammy what is a green smoothie?

>

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