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>

> I've also heard you throw around the word 'encephalopathy'

> [could you spell that word phonetically too by the way]... Is

> this something at one time or another every PSCer will

develop?

I would say it en-cef-ah-low-pah-thee (although I often get

en-cef-ah-lah-pah-thee coming out due to assimilation of the

" ah " sound into the " low " syllable).

The treatment of hepatic encephalopathy involves the removal of

all drugs that require detoxification in the liver, e.g.

Tylenol, and the reduction of the intake of protein. Then

lactulose to neutralize ammonia buildup.

Tim ltx 4/4/98

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> I've also heard you throw around the word 'encephalopathy'

> [could you spell that word phonetically too by the way]... Is

> this something at one time or another every PSCer will

develop?

I would say it en-cef-ah-low-pah-thee (although I often get

en-cef-ah-lah-pah-thee coming out due to assimilation of the

" ah " sound into the " low " syllable).

The treatment of hepatic encephalopathy involves the removal of

all drugs that require detoxification in the liver, e.g.

Tylenol, and the reduction of the intake of protein. Then

lactulose to neutralize ammonia buildup.

Tim ltx 4/4/98

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> I've also heard you throw around the word 'encephalopathy'

> [could you spell that word phonetically too by the way]... Is

> this something at one time or another every PSCer will

develop?

I would say it en-cef-ah-low-pah-thee (although I often get

en-cef-ah-lah-pah-thee coming out due to assimilation of the

" ah " sound into the " low " syllable).

The treatment of hepatic encephalopathy involves the removal of

all drugs that require detoxification in the liver, e.g.

Tylenol, and the reduction of the intake of protein. Then

lactulose to neutralize ammonia buildup.

Tim ltx 4/4/98

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Hi, Darlene:

For us Fibromites, brain fog is usually called Fibro Fog.  Yes, it's very common

for those with Fibro, CFS, MPS.  It could be caused by a combination of things,

including lack of sleep, stress, chemical imbalances,  allergies,  and a dozen

other problems we go through. 

For me, it's at it's worst when I'm in a flare.

I've learned a lot from my coach, Wood, who has helped me understand a

lot about my body.  Thanks to her I have been able to cope much better. One of

the things she teaches is that your body believes what you say, so if you tell

yourself you are miserable, the pain is 'killing you', etc.,  your body responds

to that. 

I would suggest to all that we change our language to a more positve tone.  

One night this week I was awakened by the dog, the cat, the hubby, my bladder,

the storm, the weather radio--it was just a sucky night. When morning came I was

ready to do battle with anyone who spoke to me.   Then I realized that I don't

have to be frustrated and angry--two emotions that make my symptoms worse--I can

relax and stop stressing over what has already happened. I couldn't change what

happened the night before, and putting my body in the fight or flight mode

doesn't help--ever--over such occurances.  So, I took some deep breaths, thought

positive thoughts, and went about the day.  I kissed my hubby, petted the dog,

and used ice packs, pain meds, and self-massage.  I worked in a couple of naps

too.  The point is, the day could have been a lot worse if I had held on to

anger and frustration, and my 'right to be grumpy'.

Postive thinking/talking and deep breathing has helped me a lot, even with the

brain fog that comes with fatigue, loss of sleep, etc. 

Vicki L

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:31:49 AM

Subject: " Brain fog "

 

I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never heard the term before but I

believe I have been living it. Never knew it went along with Fibro which I

gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep apnea and depression and I

actually was assuming it was due to these things (mostly the sleep apnea).

Actually I think at least some of it is due to that. The brain fog and loss of

cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who suffer from this know). I am so

ashamed that the simplest of things now seem to befuddle me. I think some people

think I am " playing dumb " and others think I am just plain stupid. Does almost

everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog or do some not have it at all? Those

who do have the brain fog do you have it all of the time or only sometimes? I am

just now coming to terms with letting myself think that I do have Fibro. My Dr

has suggested it before but I don't know as he has actually put it down as a

diagnosis as I just kind of

dismissed what he was saying about it as I didn't think I had it. Does CFS

" turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something about that before and another

Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things related? Sorry if someone has

already addressed these issues. If so I did not see the post. Darlene

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Yes me too. If I wanted to I could have a medicine cabinet full of

pain killers, anti depressants and sleeping pills. And the God complex???

I¹ve seen that a few times also. I notice as I get older there are fewer of

those though. I believe that¹s because we are becoming educated consumers.

Mostly when I go and say I have fm they treat me as legit now. That¹s a

relief from the old days of the attitude that you are a hypochondriac. :)

>

>

>

>

> I have found some doctors with the god complex though. They have their phd's

> and bs's; we only have fibro.

> These are the guys you need to skip over...it is 'hail' to have some one like

> this to hand over your health to. I had a couple and I slipped out of the

> cubicle bed fast.

>

>

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net <mailto:barrosd%

>>>> 40hughes.

>>> >> net> >

>>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >  

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never heard the term before

>>>> but I

>>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it went along with Fibro

>>>> which I

>>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep apnea and depression

>>>> and I

>>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things (mostly the sleep

>>>> apnea).

>>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to that. The brain fog and

loss

>>> >> of

>>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who suffer from this

>>>> know). I

>>> >> am

>>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem to befuddle me. I >>>>

think

>>> >> some

>>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others think I am just plain

>>>> stupid.

>>> >> Does

>>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog or do some not have

>>>> it at

>>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have it all of the time or

only

>>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with letting myself think

>>>> that I

>>> >> do

>>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I don't know as he has

>>> >> actually

>>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I didn't think I had it. Does

CFS

>>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something about that before and

>>> >> another

>>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things related? Sorry if

>>>> someone

>>> >> has

>>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not see the post. Darlene

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

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There is one book called " Back to Eden "   that might be helpful.

 

A lot of things are the result of food.

 

I have been going through a lot of stuff recently.  I fired my rheumatologist

this week.

 

mary

For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded.

Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to

shame. Isa 50:7>My Blog: http://marysbeenthinking.blogspot.com/>Twitter:

http://twitter.com/nonny49

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never heard the term

before

>>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it went along with

Fibro

>>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep apnea and

>>>>>>>> depression

>>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things (mostly the

sleep

>>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to that. The

>>>>>>>> brain fog and

> loss

>>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who suffer from

this

>>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem to befuddle

>>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

> think

>>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others think I am just

plain

>>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog or do some

not have

>>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have it all of

>>>>>>>> the time or

> only

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with letting myself

think

>>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I don't know as

he has

>>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I didn't think I had

it. Does

> CFS

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something about that

>>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things related?

Sorry if

>>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not see the post.

Darlene

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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My favorite scripture right now is Revelation 21:2-5 right now.  It is my hope

and keeps me from despair.  There WILL be an end to all our pain.

 

So I don't mind if you get Biblical. The promises in that book are for

certain.  I need all the help I can get.  The medical community has been

useless. I need to trust the great and glorious physician in every are of my

life. Thanks for the reminder.--mary

 

2And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

all arrayed like a bride beautified and adorned for her husband;

    3Then I heard a mighty voice from the throne and I perceived its distinct

words, saying, See! The abode of God is with men, and He will live (encamp,

tent) among them; and they shall be His people, and God shall personally be with

them and be their God.(B)

    4God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more,

neither shall there be anguish (sorrow and mourning) nor grief nor pain any

more, for the old conditions and the former order of things have passed away.©

    5And He Who is seated on the throne said, See! I make all things new. Also

He said, Record this, for these sayings are faithful (accurate, incorruptible,

and trustworthy) and true (genuine).(D)

For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded.

Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to

shame. Isa 50:7>My Blog: http://marysbeenthinking.blogspot.com/>Twitter:

http://twitter.com/nonny49

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never heard the term

before

>>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it went along with

Fibro

>>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep apnea and

>>>>>>>> depression

>>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things (mostly the

sleep

>>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to that. The

>>>>>>>> brain fog and

> loss

>>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who suffer from

this

>>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem to befuddle

>>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

> think

>>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others think I am just

plain

>>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog or do some

not have

>>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have it all of

>>>>>>>> the time or

> only

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with letting myself

think

>>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I don't know as

he has

>>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I didn't think I had

it. Does

> CFS

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something about that

>>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things related?

Sorry if

>>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not see the post.

Darlene

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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AMEN!

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never heard the term

before

>>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it went along with

Fibro

>>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep apnea and

>>>>>>>> depression

>>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things (mostly the

sleep

>>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to that. The

>>>>>>>> brain fog and

> loss

>>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who suffer from

this

>>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem to befuddle

>>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

> think

>>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others think I am just

plain

>>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog or do some

not have

>>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have it all of

>>>>>>>> the time or

> only

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with letting myself

think

>>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I don't know as

he has

>>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I didn't think I had

it. Does

> CFS

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something about that

>>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things related?

Sorry if

>>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not see the post.

Darlene

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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YEAH THAT¹S A GREAT BOOK TOO. BACK TO EDEN. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE. :)

>

>

>

>

> There is one book called " Back to Eden "   that might be helpful.

>  

> A lot of things are the result of food.

>  

> I have been going through a lot of stuff recently.  I fired my rheumatologist

> this week.

>  

> mary

>

> For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded.

> Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put

> to shame. Isa 50:7>My Blog:

> Twitter: " >http://marysbeenthinking.blogspot.com/>Twitter:

> <http://marysbeenthinking.blogspot.com/> http://twitter.com/nonny49

>

>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never

heard the term

> before

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it

went along with

> Fibro

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep

apnea and

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> depression

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things

(mostly the

> sleep

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to

that. The

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> brain fog and

>> > loss

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who

suffer from

> this

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem

to befuddle

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

>> > think

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others

think I am just

> plain

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog

or do some

> not have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have

it all of

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the time or

>> > only

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with

letting myself

> think

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I

don't know as

> he has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I

didn't think I had

> it. Does

>> > CFS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something

about that

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things

related?

> Sorry if

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not

see the post.

> Darlene

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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NO. MORE INSPIRATIONAL. That is so true. Sometimes I wonder if this is my

path, so to speak, because while learning to deal with the pain I have

become more compassionate, more knowledgable, more helpful and patient.

Makes one wonder. :)

>

>

>

>

> Those who are willing to acknowledge Truth shall find it, recognize it, use

> it, and be fulfilled.

> Little by little we are all here to seek our way out in this foggy maze. But

> we will slowly see the light at the end of the tunnel of pain and we will

> claim victory over this temple body.

> Did I sound too biblical....didn't mean to, sorry.

> M 

>

>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never

heard the term

> before

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it

went along with

> Fibro

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep

apnea and

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> depression

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things

(mostly the

> sleep

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to

that. The

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> brain fog and

>> > loss

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who

suffer from

> this

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem

to befuddle

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

>> > think

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others

think I am just

> plain

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog

or do some

> not have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have

it all of

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the time or

>> > only

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with

letting myself

> think

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I

don't know as

> he has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I

didn't think I had

> it. Does

>> > CFS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something

about that

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things

related?

> Sorry if

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not

see the post.

> Darlene

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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Good Evening, my friend,

I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens our

compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought Mercy

and Salvation.

So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we will

strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In Him

we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept it.

Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and assistance

from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing the care and

knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing to share a topic

so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no one else's since

each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or abondoned by the very

people we thought would be there for us. 

For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge and

care of Joanne.

Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all that you

and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my husband is

surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site for

the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the spiritual

thing with the rest of my friends.

If I have then, please, pardon me.

M.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never

heard the term

> before

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it

went along with

> Fibro

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep

apnea and

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> depression

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things

(mostly the

> sleep

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to

that. The

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> brain fog and

>> > loss

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who

suffer from

> this

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem

to befuddle

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

>> > think

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others

think I am just

> plain

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog

or do some

> not have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have

it all of

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the time or

>> > only

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with

letting myself

> think

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I

don't know as

> he has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I

didn't think I had

> it. Does

>> > CFS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something

about that

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things

related?

> Sorry if

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not

see the post.

> Darlene

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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You mention being a hermit by nature.  I'm wondering if that is one of the

characteristic of most people with Fibro because it sure describes me.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005 <barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain fog "

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31 PM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain fog. Never

heard the term

> before

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it. Never knew it

went along with

> Fibro

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I also have sleep

apnea and

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> depression

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to these things

(mostly the

> sleep

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of it is due to

that. The

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> brain fog and

>> > loss

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible (as those who

suffer from

> this

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of things now seem

to befuddle

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

>> > think

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb " and others

think I am just

> plain

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have the brain fog

or do some

> not have

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain fog do you have

it all of

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the time or

>> > only

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to terms with

letting myself

> think

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it before but I

don't know as

> he has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I just kind of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about it as I

didn't think I had

> it. Does

>> > CFS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he mentioned something

about that

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of these things

related?

> Sorry if

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If so I did not

see the post.

> Darlene

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

Jill in TX

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Good Evening, my friend,

> I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens our

compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

> It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought Mercy

and Salvation.

> So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we will

strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

> I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In Him

we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept it.

> Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and assistance

from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing the care and

knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing to share a topic

so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no one else's since

each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or abondoned by the very

people we thought would be there for us. 

> For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

and care of Joanne.

> Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all that

you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my husband is

surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

> Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

> This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site for

the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

> But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

> If I have then, please, pardon me.

> M.

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I guess I am easily amused as well.  I really don't need to stay at home all of

the time because I can get depressed real easy.  I force myself to do most

everything because if I only did what I felt like doing I would stay in the bed

at least 50% of the time.  I'm sure because I force myself to function and don't

give in most people probably think there's really nothing wrong with me.  IF

THEY ONLY KNEW.  I wouldn't wish this disease on my worst enemy but there are a

few people that I would like to get to experience it for about a month. 

Wouldn't that be an eye-opener?

Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 8:13 PM

 

I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

Jill in TX

>

>

> From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Good Evening, my friend,

> I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens our

compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

> It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought Mercy

and Salvation.

> So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we will

strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

> I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In Him

we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept it.

> Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and assistance

from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing the care and

knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing to share a topic

so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no one else's since

each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or abondoned by the very

people we thought would be there for us. 

> For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

and care of Joanne.

> Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all that

you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my husband is

surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

> Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

> This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site for

the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

> But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

> If I have then, please, pardon me.

> M.

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I don't drink either.  My first panic attack was at church while playing the

piano so I have gotten out of church but am currently looking to find a new

one.  I am definitely an introvert as well.  Until people get to know me most

think that I think I am better than them.  Nothing could be further from the

truth.  I have a tendency to think I don't measure up so I am usually quite and

reserved.

From: Jill <gray04redyahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 8:13 PM

 

I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

Jill in TX

>

>

> From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Good Evening, my friend,

> I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens our

compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

> It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought Mercy

and Salvation.

> So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we will

strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

> I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In Him

we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept it.

> Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and assistance

from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing the care and

knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing to share a topic

so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no one else's since

each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or abondoned by the very

people we thought would be there for us. 

> For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

and care of Joanne.

> Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all that

you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my husband is

surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

> Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

> This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site for

the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

> But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

> If I have then, please, pardon me.

> M.

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Lovell,

are all of us introverts ?

people always think I am stuck up .

I am so uncomfortable,

I have been taking pain killers at night all week long

its the only way I can sleep.

I never wanted it to get this far.

Joy

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:07:24 PM

Subject: Re: Re: " Brain fog "

I don't drink either. My first panic attack was at church while playing the

piano so I have gotten out of church but am currently looking to find a new one.

I am definitely an introvert as well. Until people get to know me most think

that I think I am better than them. Nothing could be further from the truth. I

have a tendency to think I don't measure up so I am usually quite and reserved.

From: Jill <gray04redyahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 8:13 PM

I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

Jill in TX

>

>

> From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Good Evening, my friend,

> I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens our

compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

> It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought Mercy

and Salvation.

> So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we will

strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

> I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In Him

we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept it.

> Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and assistance

from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing the care and

knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing to share a topic

so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no one else's since

each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or abondoned by the very

people we thought would be there for us.

> For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

and care of Joanne.

> Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all that

you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my husband is

surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

> Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

> This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site for

the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

> But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

> If I have then, please, pardon me.

> M.

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I am curious how many of us are introverts. 

Sorry you are not feeling well.  I think each of us has to try different things

and find what's best for us.  Occasionally I have to take a pain pill but now I

am on Coumadin so that is a no-no.  Do you get a massage or have access to a hot

tub?  Both help me tremendously but I don't have the access to them as often as

I need them.  Also the TENS unit is a great help if specific spots are hurting.

From: Jill <gray04redyahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 8:13 PM

I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

Jill in TX

>

>

> From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Good Evening, my friend,

> I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens our

compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

> It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought Mercy

and Salvation.

> So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we will

strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

> I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In Him

we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept it.

> Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and assistance

from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing the care and

knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing to share a topic

so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no one else's since

each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or abondoned by the very

people we thought would be there for us.

> For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

and care of Joanne.

> Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all that

you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my husband is

surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

> Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

> This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site for

the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

> But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

> If I have then, please, pardon me.

> M.

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I was told by some therapy professionals that staying ahead of the pain helps us

to do the things that will help this disorder. Having said that I need to take

my meds now.

It isn't weakness in our character that we need medication to help handle the

pain. If I don't take the meds I end up not functioning much at all, if I do

take it then I can at least move some. No one would condemn a person for taking

insulin, so I don't need to judge against myself for doing what I need to do.

The action heroes in movies eventually do get medical care, we just don't see it

on screen.

If all I can do is get through the day without cratering then I seem like an

introvert. I tend to not want to be around people when it's like that. But, I

have found that if I can get where people are and perhaps do a bit of service

for them - even if it's just be present or help in anyway I can - I feel like I

have contributed to someone else's life.

I may have to just find somewhere to walk to and even just read to somebody in a

nursing home. I can't afford a car.

I realized that other than getting the mail, I hadn't been out of my apartment

for a week. I also can't find the phone numbers I need to call people so I can

get to church today. That's a bummer. I'm doing something about that today.

My love and prayers are with all of us.

Jill in TX

>

> Lovell,

>

> are all of us introverts ?

> people always think I am stuck up .

>

> I am so uncomfortable,

> I have been taking pain killers at night all week long

> its the only way I can sleep.

> I never wanted it to get this far.

>

>

>

> Joy

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Yes, I agree with the introvert theory. I am too.

I read another theory about why socializing is so painful for many of us.

Many of us may be what are called empaths. An empath is a person who has so

much empathy for other people¹s pain that they inflow it into their bodies.

They are too wide open energetically and other peoples energy hits them like

a fire hose of water.

Its like we are a radio and there are too many stations we can hear. Some

people only hear their own channel. Some of us hear and feel other peoples

pain too much, too loudly. So we stay home where it is quiet. If someone

hurts, you hurt. If someone is in pain, you are in pain. It gets to be too

much input. Too much energy slugging you and you don¹t know how to stop it.

There are books on this. Just good empaths those of you who might feel this

is true. There are solutions to it like learning to close your own energy

door when you are around others. It doesn¹t mean you become cold and non

sympathetics. It only means you protect you. You keep your energy in your

space, and you put a boundary around it and keep others energy in their

space.

:)

>

>

>

>

> I am not an hermit but i am highly sensitive. I find being around people for a

> long time very draining and over the years I have cut down on my socialising

> tremendously. I don't drink and I don't like pubs and stuff. Socialising to me

> is church and therapy meetings. I would say I am an Introvert

>  

> Kind Regards

>  

> Joanne

>

>

>

> From: Jill <gray04red@... <mailto:gray04red%40yahoo.com> >

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 8:13 PM

>

>  

>

> I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

> love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

> think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

>

> Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

> desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

> to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

>

> Jill in TX

>

>

>> >

>> >

>> > From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

>> > Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

>> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>> > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>> >

>> >

>> >  

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Good Evening, my friend,

>> > I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens

>> our compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

>> > It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

>> experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

>> law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought

>> Mercy and Salvation.

>> > So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we

>> will strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

>> > I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In

>> Him we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept

>> it.

>> > Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and

>> assistance from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing

>> the care and knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing

>> to share a topic so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no

>> one else's since each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or

>> abondoned by the very people we thought would be there for us. 

>> > For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

>> and care of Joanne.

>> > Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all

>> that you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my

>> husband is surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

>> > Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

>> more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

>> > This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site

>> for the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

>> > But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

>> spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

>> > If I have then, please, pardon me.

>> > M.

>

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You¹re right Jill. We each do what we can, when we can. No judgment is

good medicine. Give yourself lots of love and affection. :)

>

>

>

>

> I was told by some therapy professionals that staying ahead of the pain helps

> us to do the things that will help this disorder. Having said that I need to

> take my meds now.

>

> It isn't weakness in our character that we need medication to help handle the

> pain. If I don't take the meds I end up not functioning much at all, if I do

> take it then I can at least move some. No one would condemn a person for

> taking insulin, so I don't need to judge against myself for doing what I need

> to do.

>

> The action heroes in movies eventually do get medical care, we just don't see

> it on screen.

>

> If all I can do is get through the day without cratering then I seem like an

> introvert. I tend to not want to be around people when it's like that. But, I

> have found that if I can get where people are and perhaps do a bit of service

> for them - even if it's just be present or help in anyway I can - I feel like

> I have contributed to someone else's life.

>

> I may have to just find somewhere to walk to and even just read to somebody in

> a nursing home. I can't afford a car.

>

> I realized that other than getting the mail, I hadn't been out of my apartment

> for a week. I also can't find the phone numbers I need to call people so I can

> get to church today. That's a bummer. I'm doing something about that today.

>

> My love and prayers are with all of us.

>

> Jill in TX

>

>

>> >

>> > Lovell,

>> >

>> > are all of us introverts ?

>> > people always think I am stuck up .

>> >

>> > I am so uncomfortable,

>> > I have been taking pain killers at night all week long

>> > its the only way I can sleep.

>> > I never wanted it to get this far.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Joy

>

>

>

>

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I meant to say, google the word empath if you want to find out about that.

:)

>

>

>

>

> Yes, I agree with the introvert theory. I am too.

>

> I read another theory about why socializing is so painful for many of us.

> Many of us may be what are called empaths. An empath is a person who has so

> much empathy for other people¹s pain that they inflow it into their bodies.

> They are too wide open energetically and other peoples energy hits them like

> a fire hose of water.

>

> Its like we are a radio and there are too many stations we can hear. Some

> people only hear their own channel. Some of us hear and feel other peoples

> pain too much, too loudly. So we stay home where it is quiet. If someone

> hurts, you hurt. If someone is in pain, you are in pain. It gets to be too

> much input. Too much energy slugging you and you don¹t know how to stop it.

>

> There are books on this. Just good empaths those of you who might feel this

> is true. There are solutions to it like learning to close your own energy

> door when you are around others. It doesn¹t mean you become cold and non

> sympathetics. It only means you protect you. You keep your energy in your

> space, and you put a boundary around it and keep others energy in their

> space.

>

> :)

>

> On 8/8/09 4:26 PM, " Joanne Ford " <joannesford@...

> <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:

>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > I am not an hermit but i am highly sensitive. I find being around people

>> for a

>> > long time very draining and over the years I have cut down on my

>> socialising

>> > tremendously. I don't drink and I don't like pubs and stuff. Socialising to

>> me

>> > is church and therapy meetings. I would say I am an Introvert

>> >  

>> > Kind Regards

>> >  

>> > Joanne

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > From: Jill <gray04red@... <mailto:gray04red%40yahoo.com>

>> <mailto:gray04red%40yahoo.com> >

>> > Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

>> > To: fibromyalgiacured

>> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > Date: Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 8:13 PM

>> >

>> >  

>> >

>> > I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied.

I

>> > love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though,

I

>> > think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with

>> them.

>> >

>> > Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

>> > desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't

>> have

>> > to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

>> >

>> > Jill in TX

>> >

>> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

>>>> >> > Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

>>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>>>> >> > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >  

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Good Evening, my friend,

>>>> >> > I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain

>>>> opens

>>> >> our compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

>>>> >> > It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could

>>>> fully

>>> >> experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the

>>> love of

>>> >> law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought

>>> >> Mercy and Salvation.

>>>> >> > So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope

we

>>> >> will strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

>>>> >> > I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow

>>>> man. In

>>> >> Him we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to

>>> accept

>>> >> it.

>>>> >> > Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and

>>> >> assistance from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard

>>> time believing

>>> >> the care and knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are

>>> willing

>>> >> to share a topic so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it

>>> is no

>>> >> one else's since each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed,

or

>>> >> abondoned by the very people we thought would be there for us. 

>>>> >> > For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the

>>>> knowledge

>>> >> and care of Joanne.

>>>> >> > Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out

all

>>> >> that you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my

>>> >> husband is surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days,

>>> HA.

>>>> >> > Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am

>>>> conversing

>>> >> more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

>>>> >> > This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this

site

>>> >> for the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine

>>> directed.

>>>> >> > But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

>>> >> spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

>>>> >> > If I have then, please, pardon me.

>>>> >> > M.

>> >

>> >

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I am so happy for you maria. You have found at least 3 sources of comfort.

Your husband, this list of good friends and your faith. You are indeed

lucky. That is the result of being proactive in your own life. It is also

the result of being aware of those sources of comfort. Sometimes I miss

seeing the comfort I could be reaping from a good friend. I get too self

involved. So your email reminded me again to be aware of my sources of

comfort and remember to draw from them. :)

>

>

>

>

> Good Evening, my friend,

> I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens our

> compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

> It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

> experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

> law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought Mercy

> and Salvation.

> So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we will

> strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

> I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In Him

> we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept it.

> Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and assistance

> from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing the care and

> knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing to share a

> topic so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no one else's

> since each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or abondoned by

> the very people we thought would be there for us. 

> For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

> and care of Joanne.

> Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all that

> you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my husband

> is surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

> Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

> more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

> This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site for

> the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

> But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

> spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

> If I have then, please, pardon me.

> M.

>

>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > From: pearls_and_lace2005

<barrosdhughes (DOT) net

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:barrosd%

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> 40hughes.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> net> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Subject: " Brain

fog "

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups.

com

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > <mailto:fibromyalgi

acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 1:31

PM

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >  

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > I heard someone here speak of brain

fog. Never

> heard the term

>> > before

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> but I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > believe I have been living it.

Never knew it

> went along with

>> > Fibro

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> which I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > gather you are saying it does. I

also have sleep

> apnea and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> depression

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> and I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > actually was assuming it was due to

these things

> (mostly the

>> > sleep

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> apnea).

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Actually I think at least some of

it is due to

> that. The

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> brain fog and

>>>> >> > loss

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > cognitive functioning is terrible

(as those who

> suffer from

>> > this

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> know). I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> am

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > so ashamed that the simplest of

things now seem

> to befuddle

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> me. I >>>>

>>>> >> > think

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> some

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > people think I am " playing dumb "

and others

> think I am just

>> > plain

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> stupid.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> Does

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > almost everyone who has Fibro have

the brain fog

> or do some

>> > not have

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> it at

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > all? Those who do have the brain

fog do you have

> it all of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the time or

>>>> >> > only

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > sometimes? I am just now coming to

terms with

> letting myself

>> > think

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> that I

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> do

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > have Fibro. My Dr has suggested it

before but I

> don't know as

>> > he has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> actually

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > put it down as a diagnosis as I

just kind of

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > dismissed what he was saying about

it as I

> didn't think I had

>> > it. Does

>>>> >> > CFS

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > " turn into " Fibro? I know he

mentioned something

> about that

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> before and

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> another

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Dr once mentioned PTSD. Are all of

these things

> related?

>> > Sorry if

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> someone

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> has

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > already addressed these issues. If

so I did not

> see the post.

>> > Darlene

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message

have been

> removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >

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Yes Joanne it does.

Most people live their life like that though and don't see it,

and if you point it out, they dont' like it, but yes I can see your point,

i was told I was co dependent and found out that it was because I was raised by

alcoholics

just thought i would say you are not alone.

Joy

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 9:56:51 AM

Subject: Re: Re: " Brain fog "

I have been in therapy regarding my codependency for many years on and off. Most

of my family are alcoholics and drug adicts and it was very difficult to ignore

the drama that constantly went on around me. Now I only hang around with people

who are recovering in therapy or are serene type personalities. I cannot cope

with bitching, one up manship and back stabbing. I need friends who have joyful

relationship with God if that makes sense

Joanne

>

> From: Jill <gray04redyahoo (DOT) com <mailto:gray04red% 40yahoo.com> >

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

> <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

> Date: Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 8:13 PM

>

>

>

> I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

> love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

> think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

>

> Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

> desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

> to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

>

> Jill in TX

>

>

>> >

>> >

>> > From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

>> > Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

>> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>> > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Good Evening, my friend,

>> > I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens

>> our compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

>> > It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

>> experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

>> law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought

>> Mercy and Salvation.

>> > So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we

>> will strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

>> > I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In

>> Him we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept

>> it.

>> > Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and

>> assistance from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing

>> the care and knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing

>> to share a topic so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no

>> one else's since each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or

>> abondoned by the very people we thought would be there for us.

>> > For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

>> and care of Joanne.

>> > Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all

>> that you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my

>> husband is surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

>> > Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

>> more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

>> > This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site

>> for the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

>> > But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

>> spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

>> > If I have then, please, pardon me.

>> > M.

>

>

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> Lovell,

>

> are all of us introverts ?

> people always think I am stuck up .

>

> I am so uncomfortable,

> I have been taking pain killers at night all week long

> its the only way I can sleep.

> I never wanted it to get this far.

>

>

>

> Joy

I think it all goes hand in hand. I went on a low carb diet, and the coconut

oil, for pain relief, but one of the first things I noticed was i was no loner

as shy and withdrawn. Now I just need how to figure out a way to get some words

in while other people are talking. Prozac used to help with my social anxiety,

but I am certainly not on it now.

c.

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Yup, soooo right on the button.

I had my share during childhood.

Brrrrr, can still feel the cold chill of all the drama stuff.

Glad am away away from there and right here instead.

With ya'

M

>

> From: Jill <gray04redyahoo (DOT) com <mailto:gray04red% 40yahoo.com> >

> Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

> To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

> <mailto:fibromyalgi acured%40yahoogr oups.com>

> Date: Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 8:13 PM

>

>

>

> I call it being able to entertain myself. I'm easily amused and satisfied. I

> love to study, research, learn - associate with my cats. Sometimes though, I

> think I may have something to offer to people and want to get out with them.

>

> Right now, the lack of funds and fatigue and the heat here in TX reduces my

> desire to get out with people. After praying about it, I got that I don't have

> to get " weller " before I can be of any good to someone else.

>

> Jill in TX

>

>

>> >

>> >

>> > From: maria betancourt <studiosanmiguel@ ...>

>> > Subject: Re: " Brain fog "

>> > To: fibromyalgiacured@ yahoogroups. com

>> > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 12:57 AM

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Good Evening, my friend,

>> > I have heard and seen, Rosemarie, that experiencing illness and pain opens

>> our compassionate side in understanding the demise of others.

>> > It is said that is why God sent His Son as Man. So Jesus, then, could fully

>> experience our demise and bring the law of love alive rather than the love of

>> law into being. Through this experience and through this Love He brought

>> Mercy and Salvation.

>> > So that is why we should not give up Hope...because it is through hope we

>> will strive to better ourselves in this trial of pain.

>> > I truly believe it is a test of our Faith in Him and in our fellow man. In

>> Him we learn the ability to ask for His help and to man the ability to accept

>> it.

>> > Many are we who are so proud as to refuse the hand of charity and

>> assistance from a stranger. It is many of us who have a hard time believing

>> the care and knowledge of others. It is hard to trust those who are willing

>> to share a topic so dear and personal as ours. We feel we own it and it is no

>> one else's since each time we have shared we have been stomped, laughed, or

>> abondoned by the very people we thought would be there for us.

>> > For more proof, just read about Joanne's neighbor who refused the knowledge

>> and care of Joanne.

>> > Here in this site, I have learned to accept and believe and try out all

>> that you and the group have to offer. Now if you could only see...even my

>> husband is surprised and even frightened at my energy in my good days, HA.

>> > Before I trusted no one. I am a hermit by nature. But now I am conversing

>> more(though it is by finger typing language) and trusting more.

>> > This is why I consider myself so blessed. All of us are here in this site

>> for the reason to be healed and I believe that all this is divine directed.

>> > But that is my humble opinion...I hope I have not overly stretched the

>> spiritual thing with the rest of my friends.

>> > If I have then, please, pardon me.

>> > M.

>

>

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